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Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 11:46 AM

I was offered the opportunity to open up a Russian Nite Club in North Miami...

I don't know the area that well,
you think it can grow roots there?

Vick 11-04-2003 12:06 PM

Not a South Floridian but what occurs to me

You say Russian Nightclub and I'm thinking along the lines of Rasputin's

Can you get a demographic survey/study of a 60 miles radius from where the club would be located to see if the populace is there to support it?

Is there a strong (or any) local community that would support/frequent the club?

Can you look into other clubs in neighborhood, their longevity, clientèle?

What are the liquor licensing requirements? (here in Maryland we have strict liquor licensing requirements, I have no idea about Florida) If a club exists on the proposed spot does the liquor licensing come along with the purchase?

What are the food serving restrictions or abilities?

What about the zoning for the proposed locale?

Anyone in South Florida have any info on this or input on where this information can be obtained?

Just spitting out the thing that cross my mind in 30 seconds, am sure there are other important concerns

Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 12:09 PM

Vick, if I go into it, I would cater not just to Russians but to the "yankees" as well...

you've been on the inside, you knoiw howe different it is to the "natives",
from your expereince,
you think it can fly?

photogregg 11-04-2003 12:12 PM

Good idea Serge, strong Russian community here with $$$$. We just placed ads in the Russian Magazine and have a friend of ours answering them for new talent...amazing response

Looking at the prices of ads in the magazine and the number of them, the local Russian community is large

Vick 11-04-2003 12:16 PM

Serge, I loved Rasputin's but I might not go without a "community" member

But who knows, here in Baltimore we have a little Italy which all enjoy

Again I'd like to see demographics on the area, is there a strong Russian community to pull from in a 60 miles radius?

Are there any other Russian clubs in the area?

Photogregg, do you have any info on the Russian magazine you just posted about please? Where can copies be found?

traffic ho 11-04-2003 12:32 PM

isn't there one on hallendale blvd.? or is that just a russian restaurant?

Vick 11-04-2003 12:38 PM

Something else occurred to me Serge

Do you want to put in all the hours that are necessary to open and operate a nightclub?

The club owners I know here are at their club's every night, meeting and greeting, making sure everything operates as it should and dealing with any headaches

Could cut down on your vacations :(

Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by traffic ho@Nov 4 2003, 12:40 PM
isn't there one on hallendale blvd.? or is that just a russian restaurant?
there are other Russian clubs, but they are VERY distant cousins from their Brooklyn relatives, quality is NOT up to par for my NY standards...

I wouldn't open
"one among the equals", I want one 3 heads ABOVE the rest!

Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vick@Nov 4 2003, 12:46 PM
Something else occurred to me Serge

Do you want to put in all the hours that are necessary to open and operate a nightclub?

The club owners I know here are at their club's every night, meeting and greeting, making sure everything operates as it should and dealing with any headaches

Could cut down on your vacations :(

Vick, of course not, that's why I am teaming up with a nite club owner from New Jersey, Forest and MikeW met her.

I'll be semi silent partner...checking talents with Greg's help
;-))))

voodooman 11-04-2003 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 4 2003, 10:54 AM
I was offered the opportunity to open up a Russian Nite Club in North Miami...

I don't know the area that well,
you think it can grow roots there?

Yes, YES, YES.

Oh shit, thought I was talking to Claudia.

My answer for you though is still yes.

sextoyking 11-04-2003 12:47 PM

Serge,

what a great idea. wish I lived down there, I would open a dang club :)

Vick 11-04-2003 01:02 PM

Serge - how about taking a few days, you and LL getting a hotel in the area and visit the clubs/restaurants there and get a feel for the area and community?

I'd suggest a Thursday - Saturday so you'd see both the weekdays and weekend

Play the tourist, ask questions, make observations

You did sell signs for 2 days before opening Signs, Signs, Signs :awinky:

Mike AI 11-04-2003 01:26 PM

How about a Russian Swingers Club??

:D

Seriously, I have always have fun at Russian Clubs.... always a good environment, and a good time.

If there is a market for it Serge, it is something to look into. That and it
is Ca$h business... :D

Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vick@Nov 4 2003, 01:34 PM
Serge - how about taking a few days, you and LL getting a hotel in the area and visit the clubs/restaurants there and get a feel for the area and community?

I'd suggest a Thursday - Saturday so you'd see both the weekdays and weekend

Play the tourist, ask questions, make observations

You did sell signs for 2 days before opening Signs, Signs, Signs


Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 4 2003, 01:34 PM
How about a Russian Swingers Club??

:D


Mike, won't work...Russians don't need no stinking club for that
;-))))

xdcdave 11-04-2003 01:53 PM

hey Serge..

Let me start by saying yes, it is a good idea.

I live in Fort Lauderdale right now and on my last shoot in South Beach I had to search my ass off to find a russian restaurant. My grandparents on my fathers side were from Lithiuana, and I'd love to go to Russia and Lithiunia to check it out. If there was a russian club in Miami I'd be there every weekend!

As Gregg pointed out, there is a large russian population in South Florida and they control a fair amount of money here. Esp. when talking about some strip clubs down here.

Let me know if you'd like any more info from me or if you come down. ICQ: 35917543

- David. :stout:

hammer-time_pete 11-04-2003 01:56 PM

No one will come to your club Serge. You are a loser and your only friends are make-believe ones on the internet.

Muahz!!
Hammertime Pete

Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hammer-time_pete@Nov 4 2003, 02:04 PM
No one will come to your club Serge. You are a loser and your only friends are make-believe ones on the internet.

Muahz!!
Hammertime Pete

Friends???

I always relied more on the kindness of strangers, taking their money is EASIER morally for me
;-)))

Bex 11-04-2003 02:19 PM

Sounds like a great idea Serge ... always a great idea to diversify!

All the best. Keep us updated on how it goes (if it goes). :okthumb:

Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bex@Nov 4 2003, 02:27 PM
Sounds like a great idea Serge ... always a great idea to diversify!

All the best. Keep us updated on how it goes (if it goes). :okthumb:

diversify??? do you know any other business I am involved with?
this would be my ONLY business
;-)))

Nickatilynx 11-04-2003 02:25 PM

Quote:

diversify??? do you know any other business I am involved with?
this would be my ONLY business
;-)))

Nope ;-)))

It would become ,what it should be , another hobby ;-)))

Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 4 2003, 02:33 PM
Quote:

diversify??? do you know any other business I am involved with?
this would be my ONLY business
;-)))

Nope ;-)))

It would become ,what it should be , another hobby ;-)))

Nick, now when I don't have a foothold in New York area and thirst for a good Russian drink,
it's inevatable
;-))

Nickatilynx 11-04-2003 02:36 PM

Lucky you!! No drinkinjg for me.

My income is reversely proportional to the amount I drink! ;-)))

Not wishing to tewll my grandmother how to suck eggs...but...

Make sure you own the building.

The capital gain on the building will prolly offset the operating losses on the Corp which operates the actual Club ;-)))

Thus you drink for.....FREE!!!!! ;-)))

photogregg 11-04-2003 02:49 PM

Have to get Serge to translate because the whole magazine is in Russian.
Their phone number is: 954-458-7757, the publishers name is Alex Voychinsky, address is: 1700 E. Hallandale Beach Blvd. and here's a quickee pix of our first russian recruit:

http://www.photogregg.com/russian.jpg

BradShaw 11-04-2003 03:10 PM

Why not take the million $ you could potentially blow on that idea (no faster way to lose $ than bars/restaurants) and put it into PHBIII?

Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw@Nov 4 2003, 03:18 PM
Why not take the million $ you could potentially blow on that idea (no faster way to lose $ than bars/restaurants) and put it into PHBIII?
Brad, I am affraid for my life if I get involved in PHB and go against the God Himself
(R-n Levi)

I'd rather risk my head getting russian mafia bullet than risk the wrath of Ron and Mizrahi (one of his legal apostoles)

voodooman 11-04-2003 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 4 2003, 02:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 4 2003, 02:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--BradShaw@Nov 4 2003, 03:18 PM
Why not take the million $ you could potentially blow on that idea (no faster way to lose $ than bars/restaurants) and put it into PHBIII?
Brad, I am affraid for my life if I get involved in PHB and go against the God Himself
(R-n Levi)

I'd rather risk my head getting russian mafia bullet than risk the wrath of Ron and Mizrahi (one of his legal apostoles)[/b][/quote]
LL could take em in court anyday.

:okthumb:

voodooman 11-04-2003 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by photogregg@Nov 4 2003, 01:57 PM
Have to get Serge to translate because the whole magazine is in Russian.
Their phone number is: 954-458-7757, the publishers name is Alex Voychinsky, address is: 1700 E. Hallandale Beach Blvd. and here's a quickee pix of our first russian recruit:

http://www.photogregg.com/russian.jpg

I would love to help, but can't read a damn thing from the glare.

Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by voodooman+Nov 4 2003, 03:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (voodooman @ Nov 4 2003, 03:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Nov 4 2003, 02:43 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--BradShaw
Quote:

@Nov 4 2003, 03:18 PM
Why not take the million $ you could potentially blow on that idea (no faster way to lose $ than bars/restaurants) and put it into PHBIII?


Brad, I am affraid for my life if I get involved in PHB and go against the God Himself
(R-n Levi)

I'd rather risk my head getting russian mafia bullet than risk the wrath of Ron and Mizrahi (one of his legal apostoles)

LL could take em in court anyday.

:okthumb:[/b][/quote]
do you realy believe I will involve my wife in good standing and put her in the middle of a $29,000,000 law suit?

she'll win and run away from me with her fee! no, thanks!
I won't risk that!!!!!
;-)))

Dianna Vesta 11-04-2003 05:25 PM

One of the great things I always loved about Chicago was all the neighbors and culture clubs. I dated a guy who would take me from Japan to Russia all in one night. South Florida is such a Mecca. I think it would work. Especially if you kept it to theme. I would go.



Don't forget to fight the cause!
http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/Foundatio...on/Emailer.html

This affects us all.

Billy 11-04-2003 05:56 PM

I kind of liked the National Club in Brighton Beach, in fact if I ever go again I might just have a few drinks : )

Buff 11-04-2003 06:32 PM

I noticed a few of the replies mentioned russian dining, and it just occured to me that I don't know of any Russian dishes off-hand. What are some famous Russian dishes I should try if I ever go to a Russian rest?

Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Buff@Nov 4 2003, 06:40 PM
I noticed a few of the replies mentioned russian dining, and it just occured to me that I don't know of any Russian dishes off-hand. What are some famous Russian dishes I should try if I ever go to a Russian rest?
Buff, if you wanna eat Russian style, do NOT memorize the names, just come with me or any other "native", ask Billy, Mike, Sig the way it's really done
;-)))

Peaches 11-04-2003 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 4 2003, 11:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 4 2003, 11:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Buff@Nov 4 2003, 06:40 PM
I noticed a few of the replies mentioned russian dining, and it just occured to me that I don't know of any Russian dishes off-hand. What are some famous Russian dishes I should try if I ever go to a Russian rest?
Buff, if you wanna eat Russian style, do NOT memorize the names, just come with me or any other "native", ask Billy, Mike, Sig the way it's really done
;-)))[/b][/quote]
When I spent a year dating a guy in NJ, we would go to Little Italy in NYC and just ask the chef/cook to start sending things out. If you're w/o a native, it's the BEST way to really try out what "normal" people don't/won't order. :okthumb:

Winetalk.com 11-04-2003 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches+Nov 4 2003, 10:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Nov 4 2003, 10:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Nov 4 2003, 11:00 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Buff
Quote:

@Nov 4 2003, 06:40 PM
I noticed a few of the replies mentioned russian dining, and it just occured to me that I don't know of any Russian dishes off-hand. What are some famous Russian dishes I should try if I ever go to a Russian rest?


Buff, if you wanna eat Russian style, do NOT memorize the names, just come with me or any other "native", ask Billy, Mike, Sig the way it's really done
;-)))

When I spent a year dating a guy in NJ, we would go to Little Italy in NYC and just ask the chef/cook to start sending things out. If you're w/o a native, it's the BEST way to really try out what "normal" people don't/won't order. :okthumb:[/b][/quote]
Peaches, we had a nite like that when MikeW and Forest came to NYC
;-))

ahhhh....what a nite! what a food!

Billy 11-05-2003 12:23 AM

Yeah Buff I think we had some jello with chicken in it.. I think it was good : )

The only thing I remember is the little clear bottle : )

http://hirise.biz/shows/nightclub1999/PIC00037.jpg
what was that stuff called again...


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