i had always heard about oprano being a business board but had never found my way over here until a thread a few weeks ago by serge on gfy really opened my eyes to what this business is all about.

since then i've spent my free time over the last few weeks reading through the archives here and i can't believe how much useful information there was about business in the past. stuff i've never heard even whispered in private i found broken down step-by-step in the archives.

but then i start posting here and it seems nobody talks business on the board lately. is it over?

is it true what toolz says on his interview with jayman on webmasterinterviews.com that there's no future in this biz if you weren't here 5 years ago?

am i 1500 days late and a couple million bucks short?

ahhhh....so you haven't been given the "private" board's url yet?

Wait til you have a few more posts.

You gotta earn "the knowledge".


;-)))))

I feel the sam way in a lot of respects eatapeach. Even gave a friend of mine some grief about not much business talk here. But i think the bullshitting just kills the time till the next pearl is dropped for us :)
I cant speak for you,but I am a small timer with medium to big time aspirations, and THIS is THE board to be at if ya ever hope to grow.

spaz

Look what you have learned already!!!!!!! ;-)))

LOL and it only took me 4 years to get here

spaz

Toolz is right....the easy money in this buisness has been made,
getting money today is a HARD work and talking about HARD WORK is as exciting as pulling teeth...

You forgot bribe the knowledge. ... It's called "paid consulting". :)




Last edited by Dravyk at Oct 17 2003, 01:47 PM

Toolz is right....the easy money in this buisness has been made,
getting money today is a HARD work and talking about HARD WORK is as exciting as pulling teeth...[/b][/quote]
but serge, you can make anything fun, even talk about pulling teeth.

i'm thinking that there might be a few windows of opportunity still.

just that one thread of yours on gfy showed me that.

maybe after getting a certain level of success diminished excitement.

it would be exciting as hell to have sex with britney spears for the first time, but after you had done it every day for 5 years maybe you'd be singing that old bb king song:

"the thrill is gone, the thrill is gone away"

What would you like to talk about? I'm all ears and fingers.

ok, cool.

i'll compose my thoughts over lunch and then come back with my guns blazing.

:okthumb:

Ok, but I'm about to blow outta here for the weekend. I might check in, but probably not until Monday.

Great thread idea!!

We always talk biz here...you just have to know how to seperate the biz threads from the general tomfoolery.

And the class clown got moved to the front row!

but serge, you can make anything fun, even talk about pulling teeth.

i'm thinking that there might be a few windows of opportunity still.

just that one thread of yours on gfy showed me that.

maybe after getting a certain level of success diminished excitement.

it would be exciting as hell to have sex with britney spears for the first time, but after you had done it every day for 5 years maybe you'd be singing that old bb king song:

"the thrill is gone, the thrill is gone away"[/b][/quote]
5? how about 7?
;-))))

yeah, but it won't be long before i have an avatar with my big white belly hanging out of my mink coat with my gold chains and nobody will be thinking i'm a clown then.

or will they?

:D

5? how about 7?
;-))))[/b][/quote]
Dick Waving Alert

7? How about 10!

Seriously on this thread...eatapeach...[and that name sounds famliar...local feller?] on what other resource can you netowrk with most every person who is considered a leader in this industry?

There may be some bigger but none that are any better than Oprano!
You may feel "at home " on even more but "at home" dont pay the bills.

Each board has its specific purpose...and sometmes what they say it is....isnt what the focus ends up being.

With that being said...you have to work every resource that you spend time on to your advantage.

The only thing that stands between anyone on Oprano and earning a good living in this biz is air and oppertunity!

yeah, but it won't be long before i have an avatar with my big white belly hanging out of my mink coat with my gold chains and nobody will be thinking i'm a clown then.

or will they?

:D[/b][/quote]
My guess is you have access to my photographer.

i've been around a while, went hard for a year learning everything i could.

got hired by a big sponsor for a week and then quit the business for over a year.

i'm just getting back up to speed since deciding to do it for real in august.

i've got a few cool things cooking right now, mostly SE related. we just finished a killer project last night and we'll be testing it over the next few weeks.

i am still a newbie in most ways, but i'm persistent and optimistic, and i'm finally starting to understand how to make it in this biz.

Amen!

Nobody is going to say "okay, this is how you do it... Step One..." - heck, we tried that for years in newbie tutorials, zones and articles and nobody listened anyway. lol :groucho:

But seriously... what I respect (yes, I said r-e-s-p-e-c-t!) most about Oprano is that for the most part, everyone here is a straight shooter. They tell it like it is - whether you want to hear it or not.

There's NO "tea and crumpets" served - Lord knows I had enough of that BS over the years - and I love that there's no "ass kissing of the sponsors" either. Everyone and anyone can get called on the mat at anytime and be held responsible for their actions.

But that's just part of why I love coming here... most of it is because of the great community and eclectic collection of minds that have gathered here. It's definitely something NEW every day!

:rokk:

:okthumb:

ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

:okthumb:

Thought you would enjoy that one Nick. :awinky:

A little bird tells me you and I should have lots to talk about - lol

Looking forward to it :)

in that case, i'm sure we can do some biz :matey:

i think being a little jaded is helpful too :)

The things you learn on Oprano these days aren't spelled out in clear How-To posts. You gotta learn to read between the lines.
For example, take a look at today's thread MikeAI put up about lawmakers thinking that porn these days is more offensive than it used to be.
There is a lot to be learned in that thread alone, but can you see it without it being clearly spelled out for you?

But at any time if you have a specific question, give it a shot and just ask straight-out. It can't hurt, and you'll probably get some replies.

There are some very good biz threads here from time to time, and tidbits dropped about daily. You can not expect to be fed like a 6 year old.

i fully understand what everyone is saying about not wanting to be handed the answers to all the questions. that's not what i was saying, just that it seemed that in between the politics and football lately it's been less prominent.

maybe i was a little spoiled by looking through the archives and having years worth of threads to read, it seemed like a high-level class on the business. i've never found any other board with this depth of knowledge.

i'm learning a lot just being here, and i'll learn more. i'll just have to start paying more attention to pick out the pearls :)

a lot more biz used to get done on the boards.

the advent of the threaded board imho ended it.

i now do 99% of my business by icq/aim.

dont believe me? look at this: http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?a...3c101717e5e0de5

Business is not necessarily done on the boards, at least deal wise - but many times it is the first step. Where like minded people can go, and talk - then bring the final deal to ICQ/Phone.

To get answers you have to ask questions.


For the record, I think Brad has a pearl:

I doubt that. Most people couldn't afford your photographer....and do not get your friends and family discount on his various services.

Really? I am in the running for a job at a 'big sponsor', I hope working for them (IF i get the job) won't make me wanna quit the biz for a year LOL

couldn't happen anyway I guess. Have too many sites that still make me a little jingle..............and one thats still waiting on approval.

spaz

I doubt that. Most people couldn't afford your photographer....and do not get your friends and family discount on his various services.[/b][/quote]
You are probably correct... or he dont have a fur coat to borrow.

i put a rabbit fur coat on layaway down at goodwill last weekend.

just 5 more signups to my free email sponsor off my tgp galleries and i'll be stylin' like the mack daddy

:nyanya: