How did you get started in the biz? And what chance does a newbie stand these days of getting old & rich like you?

:rokk:

I started in 1996....the days when we wrote our own rules.

The chances of anybody starting with $29 and parlay it into millions are next to ZERO.

The chances of oldtimers to get back into the game after long abscense are SLIGHTLY better but not by much

The chances of making good living money are still there, but dwindling every day

it's mature business and it tells it all.

whoops, almost forgot...
chances of getting old are 99.93%
I know only ONE webmaster who died young
(Chappo)

I personally intend to attend a few funerals myself and I'll never forgive people from Dallas if they don't invite me to Brad's funeral....
Death from diahreah is tough, but somebody gotta do it
;-)))

Pr0 I stumbled into adult internet business on a lark, in my second year of law school in 1996. I basicly started company with a dial up account, I hosted on my account ( did not last to long! haha). I put a computer p-90 with 32 megs of RAM, and a scanner on my discover card ( the scanner was a 3 pass color scanner, would take 10 minutes to scan one photo). I also started in my bedroom at my moms house!

The old days there were no rules, no one knew anything - I had no idea how to make money from the business.... and when I did, I thought I could make 2-3k a month doing it as a hobbie.

Well fast forward to 2002, now own a building where the company is headquartered, have 19 full time employees, and still hanging in there.

To start off fresh, I think a person can make a decent living. But a "decent living" is a vague term. Some people are happy to make 2k a month.... especially if there other options are flipping burgers at McDonalds.

Someone coming back to the business has a better chance to make it back again. But it depends on what they are trying to accomplish... it also helps to have some old friends in the business still who can help out.

I miss the good old days, there was not as much money as golden years - but it was an EXCITING time....

I think the chances of someone starting out new here with no bankroll and making money is pretty slim....
however, for someone who, like Mike mentioned, doesn't need more than a couple G's a month, it's still possible.

I have a friend who opened a hamburger stand about a year ago and I kept telling him 'Dude, there's a McDonald's on every block in this town and a BurgerKing, Wendy's, etc right across the street. How are you going to compete?"

He answered "Fuck McDonalds, they have to deal with shrinking margins while I can live happily and quite well on a small % of those margins."
A year later, he is highly profitable, has employees, lives in a nice house, works long hours at something he loves and is happy and looking forward to opening a second store...I guess that means he's a success...considering McDonalds is having financial problems and closing stores....

Success is a relative term...

Will a newbie have the financial success someone like ASerge has had in this business? Probably not, but it doesn't mean they can't make a little coin and sustain and be happy...success is relative.

A pissing match with me got Serge all RAULED UP!!! He just started making shit up after that, it all worked :-)

LMAO!!!!

some things never change!!

:P

Cj, for real, he called me up and said put a bunch of ads up on your site, eventually someone will notice and they will pay you. Yea Right!

A few weeks later, money started rolling in!


Go figure, I still try that with my non-adult ventures. You just never know!!!

President, I was given a similar piece of advice once but I can't remember who by ....

if you give someone something until they grow to like it, and threaten to take it away, you can almost always name your price ...

it defininately doesn't work with adult much any more, but i've done similar things to get the attention of mainstream companies ;-)

bet you thought the old bastard was insane ;-))))))

Insane, yup! But what did I have to lose? Nada!!!

I had a lot of fun back then listening to, watching, and competing with Serge, we both made a lot of shit up toether and seperately, but we had more fun rubbing it in to each other :awinky:

thanks for the insite guys :okthumb:

rubbing what in?!???!?!

:P

HEY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

rubbing what in?!???!?!

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rubbing shit like...
"Hey, Joe, if God was raining brains,
you'd never get wet"
;-))

and getting similar shit in response...it was porn's "Renesance" and Joe did write lots of first chapters in it...all in the course of a regular piss!
;-)))

NO Shit Eh ?? :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

I definately remember Joe, he was on the bleeding edge back in the day.... he was also nicer then Serge!! haha

Serge would bash me all the time, and when I first would get e-mails from Serge ( he sent to Mel, who was my girlfriend at the time who had her site which I ran), I always thought of "Seeerrrgggeee "from Beverly Hills Cop... I did not even realize he was russian until I got the first phone call from him.

Of course I only could understand every 3rd or 4th word.... haha Of course now I understand his accent perfectly!!

LOL I just realized that Serge forgot to thank the writers of MKStats for his asshole award last year. ;)

KK, don't even start me on this one...or I wouldn't have any other choice but to quote you and everything you said in my house about it
;_)))

I Definitly think it is possible for some one who has no clue what the fuck there doing with computers to get into this with dust in the wallet and make some big money.

Pipe dreams are always possible if you aint scared to put your balls on the line.

peace
localg

You mean me , don't you?

:)

Amen!

Local G you are very right - I do not know of any other opportunities that can equal this industry - even now. That is an amazing thing....

But its not like what it used to be.... but motivation helps.

KK, don't even start me on this one...or I wouldn't have any other choice but to quote you and everything you said in my house about it
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.p...&threadid=93853

You can tell 'em what I said about MKStats, I don't care :)))))