Hey yall
I have been on the net as an amateur model now for 2 years coming in March I was working for a company before and got completely fucked over and then I barely healed and start over FRESH ALL by myself I started and designed the website www.minniesoporno.com (my coin, my prize, my stressful headache) Its been ok when I first got it out there made about 20.00 $ It was a really good feeling of making 2,000 in my first month with out having to worry about a jackass beating me up and taking all my money. Trying to make up for lost time, and reasure myself. A lot people just assume that I have a website that I have all the money in the world to invest in it FYI not everyone is on the same level in this business sometimes you have to look at it the other person's point of view..., So many people in this business are sololy in it to take advantage of girls and have them priissionor. I have been threw that nightmare and I am doing everything in my power to get away from that. and If I have to work everything on my webstie BY MYSELF then that is what I have to do. yeah I know my site is not your normal amatuer website out there but at least I am smart enough to put on together just out of reading an avn magazine from november 2003. I added a webmaster program and I also perform live cam shows on a webcam network. Need help with more link exchange, and tgp submissions |
I think you are very cute, I think you could have a successful solo site, i dont know of many solo black girl sites. You really need to get a real design though, and ditch the 10 dollar non recurring option, make it a trial.
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You pissed off titan....
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how can anyone piss off Titan, he is such a mellow guy!!!!
BTW if you have icq hit me up I might have a solution for you. 174842541 |
Sounds like shes looking for traffic. Link exchange and tgp listings.
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Is it just me or is "please" not used anymore?
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Get off your fucking high horse. People responded to you in your first thread with suggestions and ideas. You didn't like them fine, but not even a thank you to those who voiced their opinions is not the way to make yourself welcome on an adult webmaster board.
You want traffic, link trades, etc, then you need to learn to schmooze a bit. One place I see that you can take some immediate action is one your webmaster program. I clicked through to the page and all it has is a sign up form, no explanation of how much it will pay etc. There are tons of sites for webmasters to promote out there, you need to tell them why they should sign up for your program. If you can't afford to pay out the big bucks for signups then tell them what else you are gonna give them to help them promote your site. Things such as promotional contant, banners, whatever you have. Anyway, welcome to the board. I hope you pitch the tude and get some good info around here. |
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Youll find a lot of help and ideas on content design and traffic generation and how to convert it. someone here knows everything about any question you would ask,. just dont be shy. |
I have no intentions of changing the design made 2 sales last night that proves my design is fine.
Who fucked me over is not important anymore since the person killed himself before the court date. I was int he process of pressing charges against him for sexual assault, in dangerment, abusing, and some candian law holding a person against thier will. I don't remember all the things my lawyer was in the process of charnging him.\ I just know I hate the design the bastard made for me saying how I needed a fresh look and he made the bull shit website www.sweetcency.com That website with its bull shit design got 800 hits a day and made about 300 a month but since the bastard conned me I am really not egager to work with other people. One person ruins it for all. I barly had time to heal from what happened to me. and I just want to make sure I do better and prove that dead bastard those words he said to me are lies. |
i pmed her and offered to get her working with AJ who is toronto based - hes had years in the industry and manages tons of projects for people right now including being an aff manager for sexsearch , jennacash and more
an awesome guy - he would have redesigned the site to pro standards with tours , got it into a cash program - and marketed it himself by submitting galleries as he does that with huge success already Instead i got attitude and grief and told that she dont want a fucking manager - and if im not going to help her to stop messagin her - which lasted about 5 minutes total - the result of her attitude towards me - mr mellow is that i doubt anyone will be able to work with her or help her with this site - i was not in this for myself or for any profit as usual i was trying to help out Yes she is cute and the site could do very well as theyre arent very many solo black girls out there right now and with the right help and a change of attitude she couldve gone far Instead she gave me the i want to make 500-1000 a month and if ur not helping me piss off line . result first time ive blocked someone on messenger for about two years some advice to minnie would be if you really want to make ur site a success - Drop the attitude towards people who want to help , go to a web design course and get ur site up to a half decent standard - then find other sites similar to yours and get some link exchanges , learn some seo skills and get listed - take sabbys advice on hitting the toplists - it was a very good guide - also possibly talk to a cash program owner to get u into their program - those guys already have 100's of webmasters in their books who would promote ur site if u can get it to a better level |
maybe i was a little presumptuous. lithium?
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For once can someone see it from my side
Put yourself in my shoes. and maybe someone here can understand where I am coming from. When you have had your whole life fucked over, and controlled by an asswhole for a good part of 2 years of your life. Your not soooo eager to run to someone whot tells you the line that I can make you a lot of money. so to avoid being hurt again I am doing it myself ALL I NEED TO know is where I can find adult search engines, link list that I can submit my site too Is that soo much to ask for or I swear I am the only one who understands what I want done wtih my own website. It's not your website so don't treat it like your own. |
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Lotta gall asking for help and then instead of acknowleding that folks are trying to help you you reject it all without so much as a thank you. Rudeness and arrogance does not work in this biz unless you already have the traffic and sales. So, if you want to learn traffic here, get humble, listen to what folks are telling you. If you don't agree, that's cool, butg realize that they are trying to help. If you don't get humble pretty quick, I predict your life on this board will be very short. :blink: |
I have to say, we have all tried to offer you more courtesy than most recieve ...LOL
you continue to spit in our face, so that leads me to believe one of 2 things 1.) you are a fake nic trolling for some reason. 2.) you know everything already ( so why botther asking us fools ?) I would say you next wors should eithe r by I am sorry oprano, or you might not like how the rest of the replys go a whole lot worst than the help you have been offered here already. the choice is yours, but we have all tried to tell you some good points at no benifite to any of us and I dont buy that I always been picked on routine! I smell bullshit!!!! |
i doubt she will be back now she has a list of crap dumps to drop her site into
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I cant believe how incredibly nice you guys have been to this chick...she has not once said thank you for any of the information/help you have given her (if it even is a chick) and all she has done is come across bitchy and know-it-all....
Im doubting it even is a girl at this point because I cant imagine a chick would be this rude... Im agreeing with sarettah on this one... but you guys are angels for entertaining her sob story and tryin to help...BIG KISS! |
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Holy shit if my wife wasnt here i would SWEAR this girl is her, I never saw so much attititude from a gal since is sold my wifes armoire at the kids schools white elephant sale....she kept muttering something about some "fuckin asshole" that day...heh BTW saying you dont need design cause you got 2 sales yesterday is not a smart thing to say, thats like saying..."No thank you Mr Employer, I dont need to make 2500 a month, i allready make 250 a month. But it is nice to see whose impossible to deal with BEFOR dealing with them. For that i thank you. |
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However, by limiting your request to just adult ses and linklists you are probably ignoring your best potential traffic generators. But, you know best as you have informed us several times. So, you should probably ignore and avoid building up your webmaster base. I mean after all, who really needs 10 or 15 people building a gallery or 2 a day that advertise your site and submitting those galleries to various tgps and linklists (lets see, lets do it modestly, 10 webmasters at 2 galleries a day submitting to 8 linklists and tgps a day would be...lets see, carry the zero, that would be 360 new links from various unique domains a day times 30 days in a month or about 10,800 new links to your site every month, each one adding to your se listings and page rank. But you don't need that right ? You can submit yourself each day with the galleries you build for yourself. Lets see, judging from your design skills to see where your html knowledge is, you could probably pyull off a couple of galleries a week and then spend a few days on submissions and get those 2 galleries listed in 20 linklists and tgps (2*20*30=1200) and add on 1200 links a month from your internal empire which doesn't do much for your page rankings and can be construed as spam by the ses. That's really good enough, isn't it ? Of course you have your ramp up time finding the good linklists and tgps and then you have the time spent learning how to build galleries that will be accepted and of course, any time you spend on that stuff pulls away from time that you can work your site, time that you could be catering to your customers and getting them to sign up for another month or so. Yeah, you don't need any of that advice, do you ? |
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Quite the gangbang we have going on here.
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sarettah, dont even waste your intelligence on her!!
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Damn.. I'm normally one of the last people to start bitching at someone I don't know very well and am generally an extremely polite and mellow fellow but.....
WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! You have absolutely NO idea how much help has been offered here by these kind folks. With the ideas and outright help offered here you could have EASILY been on your way to making your site the success you apparently want it to be but are doing everything in your power to prevent. I'm sorry you got treated so badly and can understand some of your reluctance to trust BUT even if you didn't like the ideas offered by Titan for example, you could have POLITELY declined and POLITELY explained why. I'm sure Titan would have understodd and maybe offered different help or to move slower into the offer. Instead you just pissed him off by being rude and then rubbing it in his face by starting another thread. You STILL have a chance here because the people here are nice so don't blow it. Take the chance and try and start fresh and you can have the successful site you want. Otherwise, enjoy your struggle cause with an attitude like that it will take forever to make it truly successful. |
Show your tits...
...ah shit...wrong board... |
I don't think you are oprano material.
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We need content.... lets go hit the strip clubs! Yeah.... The response sounds the same.... "I need to make $500-$1000 a day...if you cant help me do that the piss off. or I will shoot for you I get $2000 an hour" I've already seen you pull this shit once on Ammasters... learn some manners and gratitude ... they didnt put up with it and neither will we. |
None of the soo called advice is what I was looking for my question
and the asswhole who the job thing FYI fucker I have a day job already working with a cable company. I did not say thank you because there was nothing to say thank you for. |
Girl are you on crack? Or are you just crazy
Your postings so wild it seems way to hazy These boys ain't jossing , they ain't trying to be funny They're helping you girl , they have a path to the money Now if you would listen and then try to learn Maybe perhaps with some of the money you earn You could buy a ticket to the Ring Girl competition The winner of which will be a great career addition It takes place at webmaster boxing , live in San diego Go on , Give it a try girl cause your ass ,is hot ,like fuego Only in San Diego ladies and gentlemen, only in San diego!!!! |
I do not like this girl. I have worked very hard to get us webgirls at least some respect in this business and she goes and pulls this shit. Grrrrrrrrrrr.
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Is a rock better if its white or yellow? [/b][/quote] haha LOL I like the clear one, the diamonds LOL |
sabby,
Comparing you and your girls to her is like comparing the sad old woman who once appeared as "3rd Shepherd" in her high school play to a Multi-oscar winner. You have probably douched more brains than she'll ever have. ;-))) Such a shame...but there is some that can't be helped. "Never give advice , because a fool won't take it and a wiseman don't need it." But some nice people can still try. :) |
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You asked for help on getting traffic originally. Several people responded with their ideas. You came back, said that isn't what you were looking for, several more tried. You then came back asking specifically for adult ses and linklists to which Titan gave you a pile of linklists to submit to. So, what that you have asked for haven't you received ? :huh: |
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Hate to be downright rude, but your attitude might explain why someone would beat the crap out of you all the time :blink: |
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Here's some advice that will help you both in business and in your person life. How to Win Friends and Influence People Part One Fundamental Techniques in Handling People 1. Don't criticize, condemn or complain. 2. Give honest and sincere appreciation. 3. Arouse in the other person an eager want. Part Two Six ways to make people like you 1. Become genuinely interested in other people. 2. Smile. 3. Remember that a person's name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language. 4. Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves. 5. Talk in terms of the other person's interests. 6. Make the other person feel important - and do it sincerely. Part Three Win people to your way of thinking 1. The only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it. 2. Show respect for the other person's opinions. Never say, "You're wrong." 3. If you are wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically. 4. Begin in a friendly way. 5. Get the other person saying "yes, yes" immediately. 6. Let the other person do a great deal of the talking. 7. Let the other person feel that the idea is his or hers. 8. Try honestly to see things from the other person's point of view. 9. Be sympathetic with the other person's ideas and desires. 10. Appeal to the nobler motives. 11. Dramatize your ideas. 12. Throw down a challenge. Part Four Be a Leader: How to Change People Without Giving Offense or Arousing Resentment A leader's job often includes changing your people's attitudes and behavior. Some suggestions to accomplish this: 1. Begin with praise and honest appreciation. 2. Call attention to people's mistakes indirectly. 3. Talk about your own mistakes before criticizing the other person. 4. Ask questions instead of giving direct orders. 5. Let the other person save face. 6. Praise the slightest improvement and praise every improvement. Be "hearty in your approbation and lavish in your praise." 7. Give the other person a fine reputation to live up to. 8. Use encouragement. Make the fault seem easy to correct. 9. Make the other person happy about doing the thing you suggest. |
Sabby , you , your site and your girls are the epitome of the best things in camgirls or web cam amateurs or whatever niche u are aiming for
do not even lower yourself to the other end of this scale .. there are lots of gutter dwellers in everyniche .. and ur the top of the tree |
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It's so sad to see someone self-destruct in such a major way and not have the intelligence to understand what she's doing.
Minnie - here's a tip from Marie and me - and we ran a solo girl site for 6 years so we have some vague clue about what you need to do. 1. Be humble and understand that lots of people have way more experience than you do. Assess what they tell you and you will see that 95% of the time their advice is worth taking - even if you don't think so. 2. No one is going to promote your site better than you so go out there and start building free sites and galleries, post pics on pic posts - hit top lists - basically go out and whore yourself on the net. If you think that is a terrible thing to say then leave the industry now because solo girl sites are all about selling sex with that girl. 3. Get your webmaster page looked over by someone with a lot of experience. From what someone here said earlier you may not even have any Terms of Service. Without those terms you will find that anyone with real traffic numbers won't even touch you. Of course, neither Marie nor I expect you to accept a single word we have said - but we've said it just so we can reserve the right to say "We told you so" when you finally wake up to the fact that you've wasted a lot of time and money because you were too dumb to take the advice that you asked for. Oh - and Sarettah - we always thought you were a nice mild mannered guy - now we see the truth :D |
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Occasionally the room can get a little too breezy, ya know :nyanya: Good to see ya around Steve :) |
Hi, Steve....hugs to you AND Marie...
Of course she's not going to listen. She's got it all down.....too bad, really, there are a bunch of very savvy people on this board who know what it takes to make a solo girl site successful...from design, to layout, to marketing to traffic... Poor manners gets you nowhere. Too bad. We could have made you a star. |
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You must have been looking in our bank account :) We mightn't have made a fortune but it sure did teach us alot. G'day Raven :D Marie would say hi too if I could just get her out from under that pile of orders she's working on. |
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Rage against the machine. |
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Rage against the machine. [/b][/quote] Yeah ... suprisingly enough, those pocket protectors can leave some nasty cuts. |
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I had a friend in school. Physics major. Kept a black power afro pick in a pocket protector. Geeks. |
I have never owned or worn a pocket protector. :grrr:
(I have however kept my glasses together with a bandaid before :huh: ) |
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