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Dravyk 09-21-2005 05:38 PM

Negative Board Personas
 
Ok, there's four kind of board posters.

First, those who pretty much are the way they are. The bulk of people, IMHO.

Second, those who hide being bastards by appearing as good folks on the boards. Wolves in sheeps clothing.

These two are easy to understand.

Next, you got The Posers ...

Those trying to be tougher than they are. Aka, keyboard warriors.

And those trying to pass themselves off as being richer than they are. Wannabe playas.

Annoying as those are, at least most people can on some level understand why they do that. To try to fit in, to try to be more than they are.

What I don't get is the fourth kind of poster, the "Reverse Posers" ...

I just read where Cory says Brand0n is a nice guy in person. I've heard for years Brad Shaw is a nice guy in person by no less than a dozen folks. We keep reading or hearing about how this one here, that one there are "nothing like they are on the boards", that they are "nice in person".

In short ... WTF???

Why are there people who purposely cultivate negative board personas? What's the advantage in pissing people off, in making people not want to do business with you? Why do they do it?

helix 09-21-2005 05:44 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
never made any sense to me either.

XxXotic 09-21-2005 05:48 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
i'm a dick both off and on the boards but more-so on the boards because I don't actually "know" anyone. Detaching myself from someone to be an asshole is necessary so I find it harder to be a dick to people I've actually met and know personally (but ask anyone who does know me, I have my asshole moments) :D

I was raised to speak my mind so I do. I could care less if you make 10 figures a year or 2$ a year, if I think yer full of shit I'll call ya on it, respect is earned, not assumed. My inability to bite my tongue may or may not have cost me business but to be honest it doesn't much matter to me. I do my own thing and don't really need to rely on other people to make money. (i'm by no means a "baller", but I'm certainly not hungry either) So I'll take whatever label ya wanna slap on me, that's fine ;)

As for what's the advantage? I dunno, it works for some and not for others. Drama draws attention like flies to a pile of shit. Attention = exposure and for some that's all that matters in the end. Plus, I don't have to like you to do biz with you. I could care less if you kick puppies as long as what you offer (in goods or services) benefits me. I personally can't stand trey (limpdogg) but his shit converts so I send traffic. I'm not here to be friends with people, I'm here to make money and that's my bottom line.

Nickatilynx 09-21-2005 06:01 PM

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I'm a total cunt on and off boards. :)

But ,I'm told , a very charming one :)

;-)))

JR 09-21-2005 06:02 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dravyk
What I don't get is the fourth kind of poster, the "Reverse Posers" ...

I just read where Cory says Brand0n is a nice guy in person. I've heard for years Brad Shaw is a nice guy in person by no less than a dozen folks. We keep reading or hearing about how this one here, that one there are "nothing like they are on the boards", that they are "nice in person".

In short ... WTF???

Why are there people who purposely cultivate negative board personas? What's the advantage in pissing people off, in making people not want to do business with you? Why do they do it?

i think its BS. its like saying "he's a nice guy until he starts drinking" or something like that. everything you do and say is a reflection of who you are and how you want others to percieve you. boards give people the opportunity to be a little bolder just as alcohol might losen inhibitions and effect judgement and of course there can be missunderstandings and people judged incorrectly, but when its a pattern that exists over a couple of years or more, its also who they are.

everyones a nice guy at a show where they need to kiss ass and try to get some business done while facing the music for being an ass on the boards.

my two cents.
(hiding to see if nick stops and picks them up)

a simple test is asking yourself how often do you think that some of the shit someone said on a board would actually be said to the individuals face? boards are safe and people behave differently.

MorganGrayson 09-21-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
I've never understood this phenomenon, either.

I've only met Brad Shaw in person once and it was perhaps a moment that gave an indication of the "real" Brad Shaw. He'd been pointed out to me at a convention, so I walked up to him with my hand out, smile on my face and said "It's nice to meet you, I'm Morgan Grayson." Now, admittedly, at that time in my life I was wearing heels and was 5'9" tall. Rather imposing, perhaps, except for the fluffy blonde hair and big smile. (He's not very tall.) He literally shrank away from me and looked terrified. I stood there with my hand out, wondering if this man actually expected me to beat him up. He certainly looked and behaved as if he did. He recovered, shook my hand quickly...and suddenly had to be somewhere else.

Not the most healthy of self-images in that man. People like that frequently find the power behind the safety of the computer the only way they can express their internal anger. Perhaps there is some self-hatred involved. It would take a professional to untangle it all.

One thing he did get big points for, at least in my book. During an intense period of being mocked for lobster consumption, at one convention he hired an individual to walk around in a lobster suit. Now, admittedly this says more about me, but I *chose* to interpret this as the ability to laugh at himself, which is a fine quality. I may be totally wrong in my interpretation, which I fully admit. It was a total kick watching the "Lobster" amuse the children of hotel guests that had nothing to do with the convention though. :)

domtheboy 09-21-2005 06:05 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XxXotic
i'm a dick both off and on the boards but more-so on the boards because I don't actually "know" anyone. Detaching myself from someone to be an asshole is necessary so I find it harder to be a dick to people I've actually met and know personally (but ask anyone who does know me, I have my asshole moments) :D

I was raised to speak my mind so I do. I could care less if you make 10 figures a year or 2$ a year, if I think yer full of shit I'll call ya on it, respect is earned, not assumed. My inability to bite my tongue may or may not have cost me business but to be honest it doesn't much matter to me. I do my own thing and don't really need to rely on other people to make money. (i'm by no means a "baller", but I'm certainly not hungry either) So I'll take whatever label ya wanna slap on me, that's fine ;)

As for what's the advantage? I dunno, it works for some and not for others. Drama draws attention like flies to a pile of shit. Attention = exposure and for some that's all that matters in the end. Plus, I don't have to like you to do biz with you. I could care less if you kick puppies as long as what you offer (in goods or services) benefits me. I personally can't stand trey (limpdogg) but his shit converts so I send traffic. I'm not here to be friends with people, I'm here to make money and that's my bottom line.

XxXotic is a total badass fo sho....when he comes for ya on his bike you know you're in the shit :yowsa:

Nickatilynx 09-21-2005 06:05 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
fucker superglued them to the floor!

I hate that

Weg Cory 09-21-2005 06:09 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Actions speak louder than words.

Boards are all words.

XxXotic 09-21-2005 06:14 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by domtheboy
XxXotic is a total badass fo sho....when he comes for ya on his bike you know you're in the shit :yowsa:

my bike is gangsta :yowsa:

Nickatilynx 09-21-2005 06:15 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MorganGrayson
I've never understood this phenomenon, either.

I've only met Brad Shaw in person once and it was perhaps a moment that gave an indication of the "real" Brad Shaw. He'd been pointed out to me at a convention, so I walked up to him with my hand out, smile on my face and said "It's nice to meet you, I'm Morgan Grayson." Now, admittedly, at that time in my life I was wearing heels and was 5'9" tall. Rather imposing, perhaps, except for the fluffy blonde hair and big smile. (He's not very tall.) He literally shrank away from me and looked terrified. I stood there with my hand out, wondering if this man actually expected me to beat him up. He certainly looked and behaved as if he did. He recovered, shook my hand quickly...and suddenly had to be somewhere else.

Not the most healthy of self-images in that man. People like that frequently find the power behind the safety of the computer the only way they can express their internal anger. Perhaps there is some self-hatred involved. It would take a professional to untangle it all.

One thing he did get big points for, at least in my book. During an intense period of being mocked for lobster consumption, at one convention he hired an individual to walk around in a lobster suit. Now, admittedly this says more about me, but I *chose* to interpret this as the ability to laugh at himself, which is a fine quality. I may be totally wrong in my interpretation, which I fully admit. It was a total kick watching the "Lobster" amuse the children of hotel guests that had nothing to do with the convention though. :)

I berlieve when I met you ,I said "What up ho!"

;-)))


"""He literally shrank away from me and looked terrified. I stood there with my hand out, wondering if this man actually expected me to beat him up. He certainly looked and behaved as if he did."""

I've seen that look... ;-))))

Winetalk.com 09-21-2005 06:16 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Weg Cory
Actions speak louder than words.

Boards are all words.

yeah, but those words made me a retiree!
;)

Dravyk 09-21-2005 06:17 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Weg Cory
Actions speak louder than words.

Boards are all words.

Online, words are actions.

Trev 09-21-2005 06:19 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
I'm cunty :)


Speaking of that, when did everyone decide that a short novel was going to be the board standard for posting?

I don't read beyond 10 lines ever! My life is too short - now all the guilty parties go slap yourselves!

Carrie 09-21-2005 06:20 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
I think Brad got it from watching Serge piss all over the place and still rake in the cash.
I think Brandon gets it naturally.
Me, I'm just loud-mouthed and opinionated, but I'm still a nice person. :)

domtheboy 09-21-2005 06:26 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XxXotic
my bike is gangsta :yowsa:

The tragedy is that I am actually so small, if I rode on your bike it would probably look like I was riding a full size one :(

SykkBoy 09-21-2005 06:29 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
I'm not much different on the boards than I am in person...except in person I'm a low talker, so things get missed...kind of like talking in typo...and off the boards, I'll talk you into a coma talking about my kids...

The way people act on the boards and off can be a great indicator of who they really are (even if it's on a deeper down level). If you want to see what someone is really like on the inside, get them drunk or let them type annonymously on a board... (trolls notwithstanding)

Carrie 09-21-2005 06:30 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by domtheboy
The tragedy is that I am actually so small

Don't say things like that around here. It's dangerous. Just look at what one mention of Dravyk's balls has done.

Carrie 09-21-2005 06:34 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy
If you want to see what someone is really like on the inside, get them drunk

That would force me to change my self-assessment to "Moderately goofy, slightly horny, very giggly person who wants to do nothing but dance."





Yah, okay, that'll work too. ;)

Newton 09-21-2005 06:35 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
On a personal basis I tend to do business with those whom I trust, the circle is small and tight, as it should be. I am always interested in mutually beneficial business but when I research people to find out there are more weaknesses than strengths, it dissuades me from doing any business with them whatsoever, nice guys or not. I don't need the business and never will, so don't chase it for personal gain; good business in all aspects dictates that if you have your bases covered, money will naturally follow without question.

I won't ever change from who am I .. call me a cunt it makes no difference as its your perception, and it is akin to water off a ducks back. Want to meet me, thats more than doable if you come to the UK or Spain depending upon where I am at any given time, please inquire beforehand. I don't drink as it clouds judgement and gut instinct but if you want a coffee i am more than willing to oblige

I adore seeing people doing good business and furthering themselves, but what i won't tolerate as a potential business partner is one who requires the pandering to their low self esteem, lack of professionalism and poor business sense.

There is no advantage being to being a nice guy away from the board and a different persona on the board, apart from being branded as s shining example of who not to do business with.

Trev 09-21-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrie
That would force me to change my self-assessment to "Moderately goofy, slightly horny, very giggly person who wants to do nothing but dance."





Yah, okay, that'll work too. ;)

We need to meet. :yowsa:

domtheboy 09-21-2005 06:40 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrie
Don't say things like that around here. It's dangerous. Just look at what one mention of Dravyk's balls has done.

My God you're right, where's that edit button ?

Trev 09-21-2005 06:41 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Newton
I adore seeing people doing good business and furthering themselves, but what i won't tolerate as a potential business partner is one who requires the pandering to their low self esteem, lack of professionalism and poor business sense.

This is a pearl!!

:-pearl:

Nickatilynx 09-21-2005 06:46 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Newton
but what i won't tolerate as a potential business partner is one who requires the pandering to their low self esteem, lack of professionalism and poor business sense.

Ah well.....FUCK!

LOL

Trev 09-21-2005 06:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
Ah well.....FUCK!

LOL

You had to take it away from him :p


It's still a pearl. :)

Nickatilynx 09-21-2005 06:48 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
You had to take it away from him :p


It's still a pearl. :)

yeah , cause of my low self esteem and tendancy towards pandering...

:)

Trev 09-21-2005 06:50 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
yeah , cause of my low self esteem and tendancy towards pandering...

:)

That's ok Big Guy, I understand. Nothing wrong with what you posted. :D

XxXotic 09-21-2005 06:53 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by domtheboy
The tragedy is that I am actually so small, if I rode on your bike it would probably look like I was riding a full size one :(

when i sit on it it looks like im trying to mount a matchbox car :(

Inabon 09-21-2005 06:59 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
WHO THE FUCK CARES!!!!!

be at the boad do biz at the board be an ass if you want just make sure that you can take what you dish out.

i am not a playa, just hardworking fat fucking nobody jajaja.

Trev 09-21-2005 07:00 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XxXotic
when i sit on it it looks like im trying to mount a matchbox car :(

So we've got a midget and a giant.... content!!! :D

Trev 09-21-2005 07:01 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inabon
WHO THE FUCK CARES!!!!!

be at the boad do biz at the board be an ass if you want just make sure that you can take what you dish out.

i am not a playa, just hardworking fat fucking nobody jajaja.

So you're a HWFFNjajaja :blink:

Newton 09-21-2005 07:04 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Wheres my cohiba ;)

Trev 09-21-2005 07:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Newton
Wheres my cohiba ;)

Not needed! Chuck one of those lemons in mate :)

Inabon 09-21-2005 07:07 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
So you're a HWFFNjajaja :blink:



jajajaj now i need minibon doing some stupid weird hand shake or sign

jajaja

TheEnforcer 09-21-2005 07:08 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy
I'm not much different on the boards than I am in person...except in person I'm a low talker, so things get missed...kind of like talking in typo...and off the boards, I'll talk you into a coma talking about my kids...

The way people act on the boards and off can be a great indicator of who they really are (even if it's on a deeper down level). If you want to see what someone is really like on the inside, get them drunk or let them type annonymously on a board... (trolls notwithstanding)

You must know me pretty well!! LOL

Newton 09-21-2005 07:09 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
hmm sherbet lemon good idea ...

XxXotic 09-21-2005 07:09 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
So we've got a midget and a giant.... content!!! :D

I'm only 6'2" but my minibike is only 30"

http://whathurtsmedia.com/choppa/bike4.jpg

Trev 09-21-2005 07:13 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XxXotic
I'm only 6'2" but my minibike is only 30"

Why???

WTF went through your mind when you bought that? :huh: :blink: :unsure:

MorganGrayson 09-21-2005 07:15 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
I berlieve when I met you ,I said "What up ho!"

;-)))


For the life of me, as clearly as I can picture the moment, I can't remember what the hell you said first. That glaring Versace jacket is no doubt responsible.

I *do* remember looking you up and down and muttering "somewhere, a horse is naked."

Perhaps you did say "what up, ho!" That would explain my remark.

In all fairness, you had warned me about the jacket. Your "don't worry, I'll be easy to spot at the airport" jacket. (Oh, my yes.) All you needed to properly accessorize that thing were a fried egg tie and clown shoes.

Maybe someday I'll tell you what the first thing I *thought* when I met you was.

Not today, though. :p

XxXotic 09-21-2005 07:17 PM

Re: Negative Board Personas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
Why???

WTF went through your mind when you bought that? :huh: :blink: :unsure:

I didn't buy it, I won it in a mob bucks contest on another board. :okthumb:


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