Im reading around some of the boards to the reaction of the raise in the price for admission to the Florida show. Looks like a lot of people are raising hell.
AVN sez they had to raise the price to restrict the admission to the hotel to attendees only. I understand restricting access to the hotel and show but Im not sure how that would change the price of admission.

Plus Im looking at the prices to sponsor some of the aspects... looks to me like the hotel was bought out and they are selling sponsorships right down to the damn toilet paper. [Which is sold out]

Hopefully Aly will check in and shed some more light on the improvements and the new marketing innovations that were being discussed earlier this year.

Do yall think $250 is too high for the Florida show?
What do you think of the new policy.... no ticket no admission to the hotel?

Are they on crack?

wow thats outrageous.

i thnk we should start another show at the same time.

boycott the avn show.

fuck soon they will be as expensive as the aoe shows.

From my perspective....


ahahahahahahaah and you suckers will still pay it , you know you will ?

ahahahahahahahahah


If so , I fucking love AVN!!! ahahahahahahahahahaha

Fucking Awesome!!

They are treating you guys like I treat surfers ahahahahahahahaha

Bitch gripe complain...and it will achieve absolutely nothing except getting even more publicity and selling even more tickets for AVN!!!

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

See thats the only thing that could hurt them...

and :

a) no one will
B) no one will

ahahahahahahahahahahaha

Enjoy the show surfers ahahahahahaha

Twist them Aly make them bleed , then Aly come on here , be very professional charming , throw in a few jokes , and they'll love you still and you can fuck them again and again..its a recurring model!! ;-)))


But hang on...

I'm telling you the plot! lol

ahahahahaha

You charge what the market will bear. Overburden the market and they simply won't buy.

There is a point where we surfers just won't pay.

Yeah. I think 250. is too high.

I haven't looked yet; but, if it's to keep the riff raff out, well, I'm sure they will accomplish that...and if they didn't do anything to the sponsors, well, the sponsors may well be the only ones in attendance.

Here's the thing....when sponsors were charging 50-60 dollars to get a membership, surfers stopped paying.

just wondering

i call and book a room at the westin for those days using the internext hookup or what ever

and dont get a pass. you mean to tell me they are going to kick me out?

also, they raised the room rates. just figure id let u in on that one as well. :awinky:

Foot, meet bullet.

I'm not really big on being in Florida in August anyways, so wasn't really excited to attend as it was...
so basically, if I wanted to take my wife so she could enjoy some shopping and sites, I (or the company ;-)) would have to buy an extra ticket for her or she can't stay at the show hotel? Someone who won't be attending the show or parties anyways? interesting...

ahahahaha bullshit!!!

You are all gonna whine and bitch...

but you'll be there. :)

What did they raise the room rates too? I booked a month or so ago, and was given a rate at that time, so it will be intersting to see how that works out .

Ok... let me see if I get this right..

If I phone up the Westin to book a room for that time period , and have no intent of going to the show , just going to sit by the pool and in the bar , I have to buy a ticket too?

if so..........................



Brilliant!!!






ahahahahahahahahaha


:wnw: :rokk: :wnw: :rokk: :wnw: :rokk:

Yeah Ive already called ahead for your AVN opera loafers.

yes, im going. i have alot of people i need to talk to, i need to take a trip to s fl and see a close friend and this kinda bundles everything up. no matter how they bend me over and fuck my ass, im going

still a write off =D

See thats the only thing that could hurt them...

and :

a) no one will
B) no one will

ahahahahahahahahahahaha

Enjoy the show surfers ahahahahahaha

Twist them Aly make them bleed , then Aly come on here , be very professional charming , throw in a few jokes , and they'll love you still and you can fuck them again and again..its a recurring model!! ;-)))


But hang on...

I'm telling you the plot! lol

ahahahahaha [/b][/quote]
You know what, Nick...

I don't 'twist' anything (but thanks for calling me charming)

I call BS where I see it and nobody could pay me enough to 'fuck them again and again'..

So, and in my most charming voice possible... FUCK YOU. You've got me figured a little wrong Nick and I'm not remotely amused.

If any of you have any real concerns, feel free to email me in person, or hit up the Internext staff directly at sales@internext-expo.com.

Thanks.

Id say that was about right :)

Perhaps this will be one of the last AVN shows... Coupled with the outrageous costs of renting a suite for 24hours when its only needed for 3.

Needless to say our events are going to be held off-site this year and they arent going to be officially 'sanctioned' by AVN :)

Goodness, I wasn't aware that Aly owned AVN now, I thought she collected a paycheck.
Next time I'm surely not paying for lunch ;)

You know what, Nick...

I don't 'twist' anything (but thanks for calling me charming)

I call BS where I see it and nobody could pay me enough to 'fuck them again and again'..

So, and in my most charming voice possible... FUCK YOU. You've got me figured a little wrong Nick and I'm not remotely amused.

If any of you have any real concerns, feel free to email me in person, or hit up the Internext staff directly at sales@internext-expo.com.

Thanks. [/b][/quote]
Couple of points , Aly.

1.) I was joking. :)
Little too near the knuckle huh?

2.) I really don't give a monkey's grey pube whether you are amused or not.

:)

I know.

:)

OMG, this is turning into some strange sort of British courting ritual!

Now hold on there lady!!!

We don't do that over here any more! So it's got to be a Canadian/cunty thing! :D

So what are you saying KK?????

Its not your buddy's Aly's fault if her employers , want to act , IMHO , like any good business and charge , as Raven said "What the market will bear?"

I fail to understand why Aly would be embarassed or nay ashamed of the rates AVN are charging.

So what are you saying KK?????

Its not your buddy's Aly's fault if her employers , want to act , IMHO , like any good business and charge , as Raven said "What the market will bear?"

I fail to understand why Aly would be embarassed or nay ashamed of the rates AVN are paying. [/b][/quote]
I understood you perfectly, both in nuance and in intent. But it's a Monday and I'm in a pissy mood as it is.

Not everyone realizes that a compliment isn't always coated in sugar, until they bite into it ;)

I might add that if I owned AVN, I'd be charging 500 bucks for a ticket.

The badge cost is $250 with early registration. That's a lot more than the convention attendee badge was last year.

Last year, the trade show floor itself was the revenue source... that's why people had to exhibit in order to throw 'official' events, otherwise, they would have been 'leeching' off the event.

But lots of people wanted to be involved and have events and so on without having a booth, so that requirement was removed. That does, however, according to an Internext spreadsheet somewhere, amount to a serious loss in revenue (including that necessary to cover basic costs) for the show... even with people sponsoring the toilet paper.

So, to even this all out, attendance in any way now has a flat fee. That fee covers entry to all events, including exhibits and seminars and so on. And, the nice folks at Internext are also having wireless access added to the entire area.

Raven's right... as is Nick... and maybe Lee too... People will either buy it or they won't, and that remains to be seen.

I was just hoping to get an honest answer on some of the marketing improvements shes been working on since she started.

Please dont tell me its just stuff like sponsoring the hotel room's toilet paper or the bar napkins.

Lets hear more about chances to be more involved with networking and more business related ventures.

I still what to know if she thinks $250 is too high??

I thought it wasn't and agree with you , KK..I'd charge whatever the sad fucks would pay..

But obviously Aly is in some way ashamed of that price..

I'm going to smoke a cigarette. Fuck it.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

A minute ago it was "not amused" and "fuck off"

Now I'm right ....WHUUUUUUUUU HUH?

So you think 250 is a fair price?

Sure... darling. In answer to a few of the larger demands...

We're arranging at least one (possibly more) networking lunch with topics by table.
24 tables. Probably on a first-come-first served basis. (which is why this may carry on for more than one day)

We're mailing the badges after people pre-register, to avoid congestion at the hotel.

Sponsors no longer HAVE to exhibit in order to throw events - there are many more options in that area now.

There are hard-walled meeting rooms on show floor, so people can have their own place to meet without having to get a booth or hospitality suite... but that's also an option of course.

We've closed the show to the public, thus removing people from the show who were simply hanging around. This means, whoever you meet is a potential business partner or client.

There are more educational sessions in the seminar program, as requested.

I want to clarify that I do not run Internext. The Trade Show department runs Internext. I simply yell at the trade show department from time to time and hope to create change...

""" We've closed the show to the public """

So no gfyers can get in?

;-))

Sure... darling. In answer to a few of the larger demands...

We're arranging at least one (possibly more) networking lunch with topics by table.
24 tables. Probably on a first-come-first served basis. (which is why this may carry on for more than one day)

We're mailing the badges after people pre-register, to avoid congestion at the hotel.

Sponsors no longer HAVE to exhibit in order to throw events - there are many more options in that area now.

There are hard-walled meeting rooms on show floor, so people can have their own place to meet without having to get a booth or hospitality suite... but that's also an option of course.

We've closed the show to the public, thus removing people from the show who were simply hanging around. This means, whoever you meet is a potential business partner or client.

There are more educational sessions in the seminar program, as requested.

I want to clarify that I do not run Internext. The Trade Show department runs Internext. I simply yell at the trade show department from time to time and hope to create change... [/b][/quote]
I like the lunches idea. [no surprise there eh?]

Great move on mailing the badges and being able to throw an event. Who do we contact about throwing an event?

The hardwalled meeting rooms is a great idea. Exhibitors will get a little more ROI from that Im sure.

I think the show should be closed to the public. I should cut donw on the "vacation" attiude some folks have had in the past.


And Im just responding to your banner in your signature. I had hoped that someone from Intenxt would have contacted me since Ive filled out the form several times now. I know it had one of my "christian" email accounts on it[as in my real name] but when it requested the website...I listed this one. Time is wasting so I figured Id ask the question here. You apparently give better customer service than the folks in charge of the event. Tell them you need a raise.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

A minute ago it was "not amused" and "fuck off"

Now I'm right ....WHUUUUUUUUU HUH?

So you think 250 is a fair price? [/b][/quote]
Darling, I was telling you to fuck off, (but may downgrade that to a bugger off now that I've had a smoke) not because of the price of the ticket or anything else you said other than the implication that I was dishonest-for-pay. I hate that. Sure, I'm charming, and indescribably witty, but I'm not here to spin whatever shit my employers throw out there, right or wrong.

That said, I think it's a PR nightmare to have the price leap like that but, personally, I'd pay it and see. I'm too objective to say whether it's 'fair' or not. That's not for me to say... I say, if you can, then do, at least once...

Gonzo, contact terri@internext-expo.com for information about throwing an event.
or phone: 818-718-5788 and ask for Terri or Renee.

If you have any trouble at all, hit me up and I'll help out.

sounds like a few pretty major improvements have been made overall - stuff that should have been done all along but that AVN are only just now bothering to do ...

like nick said, attendees have still gone in droves despite all the negative feedback every time - so I doubt the increase in price will effect the numbers at the show, but it will effect the type of webmaster.

There will be even less hard working, long running programs there and a lot more fly-by-night showoffs who have made their first and only money in their lives flashing it around to pick up some ass.

but with all that said, I think you'll find if you revisit the thread where Aly asked for feedback from everyone, the main things requested were meeting rooms on the show floor, less general public access, events open to non exibitors, pre-registered tickets to be mailed prior to show etc .... seems like there is a lot that HAS been done that WE asked for ..........

>>>>but, if it's to keep the riff raff out, well, I'm sure they will accomplish that

Raven, are you saying that anyone who will spend $250 on a ticket isn't riff raff?

I beg to differ :rolleyes:

I saw someone with a ticket in a sweaty tank top tossing hotel furniture last year after trying to talk smack. I bet that qualifies as riff raff.

Not sure what the FTC calls em though. Oh thats right...."employee".

*snorting tea*

HAHAHHAHAAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA

my point exactly :rolleyes:

I'm confused about how admission to the hotel will be restricted?

Was the term restricted used to mean that due to the increased admission price it is felt less people will just show up and hang in the lobby and go to functions or just stay at a different hotel

or that you would have to have a show badge to get into the hotel

I can't imagine the latter really happening unless AVN buys out the entire hotel

But I've been wrong before

I am having a spot of Green tea at the moment....

what was the price last year, shit i forgot already LOL

is it going to be more than $250.00 if you wait til the show to register?

did I hear you right? lunch is now included too each day?

Right now... so who's AVN and he's charging what per room :unsure:


I know a guy only charges £15 for one of his rooms and there no chat needed :lol: