far from other Tarentino gems...if you look for Pulp Fiction repeat-
don't.

it's still very good. i'm going to get into my film reviews (not just reviews) and teach you all a bit about actual "films" and you will appreciate good movies alot better.


I myself am somewhat of a film student, and am aspiring to date a columbia film student (I blew off our date tonight because my skin got kinda fucked up from some of the lotion i put on it and all the sun i got with the ttops off yesterday....tonights going to be spent with a bottle of aloe).


with that said, this IS a good movie and a good series I'm betting. tarentino, while somewhat of a bunco artist, is one of the top directors in the film business and not just today.

Pushpills: Did you see KillBill II yet?

Steve, I was raised on European cinematography,
from the days when art matterted more than commercial success...

so...what would you wanna teach me about movies?
;-)))

you may start with Tarkovsky... and finish with Gaben
;-)))

serge perhaps the film review/discussion/class session as I envision is should be somewhat of a joint venture.


nevertheless....you didn't give this particular film SOME of the credit that it deserves. and it does deserve credit. and also we should all know....something old doesn't necessarily make it the best and classic...because it is the new that has the financing knowledge technology and potential to be better.

Steve, I disagree....NONE of the living artists are classics.
;-))

Van Gogh and Modigliani died in poverty....30 mils for sunflowers weren't paid while Van Gogh was alive
;-)))

therefore...Tarentino is NOT classic..yet,
he is CONTEMPORARY.

does it contradict what you learned in the colege?
;-)))

and I know that you'd appreciate that my previous post which goes under category:

"Please allow me to retort"
;-))))

I'm sure you'll name the movie where this quote is from
;-)))

Except for Pulp Fiction, I've just never "gotten" Tarantino's flicks. :unsure: Even some parts of PF had me dazed and confused. :o

I'm saying that something old DOESNT make it classic. Yes, ok, tarentino will have to wait awhile before he's "classic" but re-read that sentence of mine, I didn't mean to say that all that the best that is new is classic now, i was saying that the oldies aren't nessecarily classic.


and that quote, if thats pulp that you are talking about, that's not the exact quote at all, you should have google searched it first. :awinky:

did I break your concentration????

any idiot can find quote on Google,
you gotta keep it in your heart, right or wrong,
in spirit
;-))



Sam L. Jackson: *Gunshot* Oh I'm sorry, did I break your concentration?

Sam L. Jackson: Shut the fuck up, fatman! This ain't none of your goddamn business!

Sam L. Jackson: I don't remeber asking you a goddamn thing!

Sam L. Jackson: Come on, Yolanda! What's Fonzie like?" "Cool.." What? "Cool." "Correctamundo! And that's what we're gonna be - We're gonna be cool.

Sam L. Jackson: Describe what Marcellus Wallace looks like!
Brett: What I..
Sam L. Jackson: Say what again. Say what again! I dare ya, I double dare ya, you motherfucker! Say what one more goddamn time.
Brett: He's black..
Sam L. Jackson: Go on!
Brett: He's bald!
Sam L. Jackson: Does he look like a bitch?
Brett: What?
Sam L. Jackson: *BLAM*
Brett: Aauuuh auh!
Sam L. Jackson: Does he look like a bitch?
Brett: Noo!
Sam L. Jackson: Then why are you trying to fuck him like a bitch, Brett?
Brett: I didn't..
Sam L. Jackson: Yes you did. Yes you did, Brett! You tried to fuck him and Marcellus Wallace don't like to get fucked by anybody else than Mrs. Wallace.

Sam L. Jackson: I don't wanna hear about no motherfucking ifs! All I wanna hear from your ass is: 'You ain't got no problem, Jules. I'm on the motherfucker. Go back in there, chill them niggers out and wait for the cavalry, which should be coming directly.'

Sam L. Jackson: My name is Pit, and your ass ain't talking your way out of this shit.

Sam L. Jackson: I wouldn't go so far to call the brother fat. I mean, he has a weight problem, what's the nigger gonna do, he's Samoan.

Sam L. Jackson: Please, continue. What's the matter? Oh, you were finished? Well, allow me to retort.

right "Well, allow me to retort."


not please allow me to retort.

that's what i'm saying.....

We rented Kill Bill a few nights ago and I was surprised that I liked it. I like Tarantinos other movies but I wasn't a big enough fan to see KB in the theater. I thought the ass kicking girls were fun and the score by RZA was great. I dont know anything about karate movies so Im sure some of the homages went over my head. It definitely doesnt have the genius dialogue of Pulp Fiction.

Serge, are you a Mamet fan?



Last edited by MissEve at Apr 17 2004, 07:24 PM

I too watched it and was surprised that I liked it.

Like the curates egg it was good in parts.

More "interesting" was watching Tarantino interviewed by Conan O'Brien the other evening.

Tarantino is insane without a doubt.A genius ? I think remains to be seen.

I believe his behaviour causes problems getting his films insured.

I liked the movie, but in physical sense, not for it's lacking inner beauty.
Pulp Fiction DID have an inner beauty
;-))

I always use PLEASE, the rest was Pulp Fictiopn
;-)))

I liked Kill Bill Volume 1, but I hate the fanboys who brag about how original Tarrantino is...I like him and hs movies, but they almost always contain nods, winks, homages, etc. to other films. My friends and I are going to play a drinking game this weekend. For every reference to another movie in Kill Bill Volume 1 to a movie that I have in my collection, we take a drink..we should be drunk about halfway through the movie ;-)

Serge, have you seen that movie "Russian Ark" yet? Damn good movie and gave me a huge appreciation for Russian history and art as well as the art of cinematography.

pushpills, I'm a movie fanatic as well, my favorites lately tend to be asian horror..but I love the bad bad bad b-flicks as much as the dogme stuff and even the artsy fartsy arthouse stuff...

I'm mulling kicking off a movie review site of low budget and independent movies...a site who's readers can appreciat Ed Wood as much as Richard Linklater, who can show as much love for a Harmony Korine flick as a Kevin Smith movie. After all this time of posting, I think you and I maay have exactly one thing in common ;-)



Last edited by SykkBoy at Apr 17 2004, 07:48 PM

Hey don't forget non-American low budget and independent film!

Hey don't forget non-American low budget and independent film![/b][/quote]
of course

Takeshi Kitano, Takashi Miike, Dario Argento, Umberto Lenzi and Jess Franco, amongt many others all have prominent places in my heart and my DVD/video collection

yes, I did and I wasn't impressed...
my first words after watching were:
what is a fucking point besides self indulgence??

I happen to know Russian history and art, so this movie brought no revelations...and BTW, I watched it because I read your review back in a day
;-)))

Hey don't forget non-American low budget and independent film![/b][/quote]
why?

Wouldn't you say all great art is totally "self-indulgent" ?

I like David Mamet....

One of his diologues could be directly from an Oprano thread:

DON: 'Cause there's business and there's friendship, Bobby...there are many things, and when you walk around you hear a lot of things, and what you got to do is keep clear who your friends are, and who treated you like what. Or else the rest is garbage, Bob, because I want to tell you something.

BOB: Okay.

DON: Things are not always what they seem to be.

BOB: I know.

--from American Buffalo

yes, I did and I wasn't impressed...
my first words after watching were:
what is a fucking point besides self indulgence??

I happen to know Russian history and art, so this movie brought no revelations...and BTW, I watched it because I read your review back in a day
;-)))[/b][/quote]
hahaha

I have a friend who felt the same way, my wife hated the movie and I was moved to learn more....

uh oh, I hope you never read the review I did of "Bad Taste", Peter Jackson's first feature film (long before LOTR was even a twinkle in his eye). Probably not your type of movie, although you have to love any movie that features a sheep getting on the wrong end of a rocket launcher...

no, I wouldn't...

St Peter's cathedral in Vatican with angels at the clocks looking like somebody at the train station checking the schedules IS self indulgence but..ain't a great art
;-))))

why?[/b][/quote]
I was referring to the website Sykkboy was planning on building.

There are dozens of great low budget and independent films made outside the USA every year. You should check some of them out.

Personally I find low budget, indepedent films a lot more satisfying than Hollywood blockbusters. Art and commerce don't mix well.

hahaha

I have a friend who felt the same way, my wife hated the movie and I was moved to learn more....

uh oh, I hope you never read the review I did of "Bad Taste", Peter Jackson's first feature film (long before LOTR was even a twinkle in his eye). Probably not your type of movie, although you have to love any movie that features a sheep getting on the wrong end of a rocket launcher...[/b][/quote]
I loved Bad Taste but Peter Jackson's masterpiece will always be Brain Dead.

It's the ultimate splatter film.

And it's funny as hell.

Mamet's a brilliant writer.

like in Glengarry Glen Ross (one of my all time favorite movies):
Blake: Your name is "your wanting", and you can't play the man's game, you can't close them, and then tell your wife your troubles. 'Cause only one thing counts in this world: get them to sign on the line which is dotted. You hear me you fuckin' faggots?

-----

Dave Moss: Who are you? What's your name?
Blake: You see this watch? You see this watch?
Dave Moss: Yeah.
Blake: That watch costs more than you car. I made $970,000 last year. How much you make? You see pal, that's who I am, and you're nothing. Nice guy, I don't give a shit. Good father, fuck you. Go home and play with your kids. You wanna work here, close. You think this is abuse? You think this is abuse, you cocksucker? You can't take this, how can you take the abuse you get on a sit?


Now I gotta go break out the DVD and watch the movie again. I could watch Alec Baldwin's speech over and over again.

I loved Bad Taste but Peter Jackson's masterpiece will always be Brain Dead.

It's the ultimate splatter film.

And it's funny as hell.[/b][/quote]
I think Bad Taste occupies that special place in my heart because it was the first film of his I saw and it just sucked me in. I also love the story behind the movie getting made, a couple buddies shooting on weekends over a 4 year span and finished it with funing from the New Zealand government.

As much as I loved Brain Dead/Dead Alive, Bad Taste is my favorite and Meet The Feebles was up there as well, but was hapmpered bya muddy picture due to the low budget of the movie.

I'm always looking for small independent movies, American or foriegn, so hit me up with suggestions of movies to watch.

I was referring to the website Sykkboy was planning on building.

There are dozens of great low budget and independent films made outside the USA every year. You should check some of them out.

Personally I find low budget, indepedent films a lot more satisfying than Hollywood blockbusters. Art and commerce don't mix well.[/b][/quote]
I was just pulling your leg,
I agree with your last sentence.

Been a lifelong fan of low budget and independent cinema. The wierder the better. Splatter, mondo, arthouse, Troma... I love them all.

Haven't seen anything outstanding lately. Still waiting to catch 'Spun', when a DVD copy is finally on the shelves at the video store, instead of being rented all the fucking time.

Seen anything good yourself lately?

Unless you can at least remember, if not enjoy, things like Kung Fu Theater on Sunday afternoons in the 70's, you're not going to "get" Kill Bill completely. Tarantino is a lot like Kevin Smith, if you were not influenced by the same pop culture as he was during the formative years, you're going to miss half of the funny inside references.

Volume 1 was pure action, very little quirky Tarantino dialogue. And it was very much a tongue in cheek over the top homage to Kung Fu movies from the 70's with blood literally spraying when an appendage would get cut off. Though it did have it's Pulp Fiction-esque moments such as when Boss Tanaka took issue with O-ren's lineage....

Volume 2 has much less action and a lot more talk. It fills in the story. And both Bill and Pai Mei have some excellent dialogue.

Been a lifelong fan of low budget and independent cinema. The wierder the better. Splatter, mondo, arthouse, Troma... I love them all.

Haven't seen anything outstanding lately. Still waiting to catch 'Spun', when a DVD copy is finally on the shelves at the video store, instead of being rented all the fucking time.

Seen anything good yourself lately?[/b][/quote]
I've been looking forward toseeing "Spun" as well

I've ben in a mini-slump ith smaller movies, but have found myself watching some old Cronenberg stuff: The Brood, Videodrome, Naked Lunch, etc.

I finally got to see Ichi The Killer after hearing so much about it, great flick, but slightly overrated (probably due to how much my fellow gorehounds were recomending it).

If you haven't seen it yet, I'd recomend "Ice From The Sun" by Eric Stanze, really artsy fartsy and extremely low budget (which hampers it in the sound department) but a really amazing visual film. Someone needs to give Eric Stanze a million bucks and see what he can do ;-)

I've been looking forward toseeing "Spun" as well

I've ben in a mini-slump ith smaller movies, but have found myself watching some old Cronenberg stuff: The Brood, Videodrome, Naked Lunch, etc.

I finally got to see Ichi The Killer after hearing so much about it, great flick, but slightly overrated (probably due to how much my fellow gorehounds were recomending it).

If you haven't seen it yet, I'd recomend "Ice From The Sun" by Eric Stanze, really artsy fartsy and extremely low budget (which hampers it in the sound department) but a really amazing visual film. Someone needs to give Eric Stanze a million bucks and see what he can do ;-)[/b][/quote]
Yeah, Cronenberg is great. So is Lynch. Love them both because they are so fucking weird. Strange guys but great filmmakers.

Thanks for the tips... will catch up with all of the ones you mentioned. I'll let you know if I see anything good.



Last edited by Joe Sixpack at Apr 17 2004, 06:32 PM

Casablanca


then there are all other movies

:okthumb:

In fact ....

Vick , I think this is the start of a beautiful friendship


;-)))

in my "movie geek" circles, I sometimes spark outrage with the fact I didn't care for Casablanca, Citizen Kane or..gasp...Psycho...
while I admire these films for their place in history, I'm just not a huge fan (and I wouldn't call them bad or anything, they are actually good films, just not in even my top 250)

My favorite Hitchcock is the one most seem to forget about "Frenzy" (Hitch's first and only R-rated movie)



Last edited by SykkBoy at Apr 18 2004, 01:04 AM

I like it too. That's what I like about Tarantino. His references.

For anyone that doesn't remember, Kill Bill is referenced in Pulp Fiction. ;-)

I didn't know that.. How was it referenced?

I didn't know that.. How was it referenced?[/b][/quote]
I shouldn't say "referenced". I don't even know what the proper term would be.

But Uma Thurman describing "Fox Force Five" and then starring in Kill Bill.

I think it's a "time travelling wink".