Complete waste of two hours of my life.

i thought so too. almost no dialogue, no real story development, you don't get a chance to know or care about the characters etc. plus there was no titties, cocaine and hookers or nice cars.

Colin
Mel made it for his daddy
the anti-semite who doesn't think the holocaust realy happened
wanna hear the interview Mel's daddy did with a NY dj?
take a litre of oil and 20 minutes to creamate 1 person
no way 6 million died
they are all over the world , they didn't die

how have the movie ended?

what does his fathers opinions on the Holocaust have to do with making a movie about the last 12 hrs of the life if Jesus Christ?

what does his fathers opinions on the Holocaust have to do with making a movie about the last 12 hrs of the life if Jesus Christ?[/b][/quote]
Meni has fallen a victim to Jewish Propaganda
;-))))

Meni has fallen a victim to Jewish Propaganda
;-))))[/b][/quote]
maybe he is being manipulated by the Liberal press?

maybe he is being manipulated by the Liberal press?[/b][/quote]
JR, don't Jews control all Liberal Press????

I subscribe to Jewish Life newspaper and all they talk about is ...
Jewish Life!

so...WHO controls the media?????

JR, don't Jews control all Liberal Press????

I subscribe to Jewish Life newspaper and all they talk about is ...
Jewish Life!

so...WHO controls the media?????[/b][/quote]
When Howard Stern goes off the air we can start shooting "The Passions Of The Meni"

what does his fathers opinions on the Holocaust have to do with making a movie about the last 12 hrs of the life if Jesus Christ?[/b][/quote]
um are you that slow JR?
talk to a Jew about the film
the jews are up in arms about this film
they didn't beat the hell out of Christ
like Mel displayed
so his daddy could jerk off

If you doubt he made this film to appease his father
then you are mistaken

the fact that "i am slow" is a given considering everything you have to say assumes that those you are addressing "just don't get it"

how do you know how hard Jesus was beaten?

haha... thanks for proving my point.

the fact that "i am slow" is a given considering everything you have to say assumes that those you are addressing "just don't get it"

how do you know how hard Jesus was beaten?[/b][/quote]
me personally?
Jesus?
hmmmm
beaten?
made water wine
fixed up lepers
died on the cross
then came back
hmmmm

anyway
Mel is very religious, and doesn't like jews
His daddy raised him
his daddy really really doesn't like jews

Actually, every Jewish person I know who has seen it (20+) did not in any way, shape or form think it was against Jews. You've been hanging around Stern and Babs too much, Meni. :unsure:

If you've seen the interviews with Mel about this movie it's quite obvious he did it because he felt the need to do it for himself, NOT for his father.

BTW, are you aware the actress who plays Mary is Jewish? There - now YOU know of one Jew who wasn't offended. :)

i think the real purpose of this film was to say to morons everywhere;

"watch me make you turn $25,000,000.00 into $100,000,000.00 in a few weeks because you are dumb enough to talk shit, theorize, dream up conspiracies and read too much meaning into some guy who got beat up and nailed to a piece of wood.. so thanks for all the free promotion assholes!"

by the way.. did you know he is now planning a movie about Hanukah? I am sure that has nothing to do with repeating the same formula though... its really all about appeasing his daddy because Meni said so.

How does anyone here really know if there even was a Jesus much less how he died????

The story is over 2000 years old and told by men to men to men and passed along and written down and changed so many times

It's a fairy tale, all superstition

Right ... somebody got nailed to a cross and came back to life 3 days later ....
...does anyone really believe that??!!

Son of God born of a Virgin birth... your kidding me ... right??

However if it makes your life a better thing by having faith and you don't try to foster your feelings, beliefs and convictions (if you have them) on anyone .... then good for you

I really, *really* hate stereotypes but I have to admit, Meni is fitting more and more into the "brawn/brains" one every day.

Pretty soon you'll be seeing black helicopters with republican elephants and swastikas (sp?) painted on them hovering over your house.

Exactly. I didn't FEEL anything watching this movie.

Most amusing thing. Before the movie started I overheard a sixteen-ish year old girl sitting in back of me telling her friend "I'm going to watch this movie about Jesus dying for my sins and then tonight I'm going to have pre-marital sex with my boyfriend. I hope I don't feel guilty".

im gonna watch it tonight

I just saw it 3 hours ago too... with my 13yo daughter. It was ok.. but I would have prefered it to have covered a longer time frame.... and even with all the hype, I somehow missed that it was in Hebrew/Latin with subtitles :blink:

For what its worth, it didn't leave me feeling any differnet about the Jewish people.

Ladies and Gentleman, we have a WINNER

The real reason every movie is made.

And in the world of movie making if you can get a subject people are passionate about it will make tons of money.

Opti,

Latin and Aramaic. ;-)

Meni....wasn't the romans that did the beating in the movie?

you gotta pay more attention....

ha.. thats funny Jim... I almost posted the same thing at first... then I realised the Soldiers at the beggining beat him up pretty good.. and the holy men slapped him and spat on him.... but you kind of forget that after sitting through the gruesome "chastising" the Romans gave him later.

Actually, every Jewish person I know who has seen it (20+) did not in any way, shape or form think it was against Jews. You've been hanging around Stern and Babs too much, Meni. :unsure:

If you've seen the interviews with Mel about this movie it's quite obvious he did it because he felt the need to do it for himself, NOT for his father.

BTW, are you aware the actress who plays Mary is Jewish? There - now YOU know of one Jew who wasn't offended. :)[/b][/quote]
He won't discuss his dad
cuz his dad is a freak
and would ruin Mel
Wanna listen to his dad's interview
dispelling the holocaust?

Well
do you fuckers need me to upload the radio interview with his DAD?
huh?

Here you go assholes
Mel's Daddy is a NUT, so is his son

as Sterns end approaches, Meni gets more bizarre.

Exactly. I didn't FEEL anything watching this movie.[/b][/quote]
Jesus needed a side-kick. Maybe Owen Wilson for some comedy relief.

That and a real cool chariot race ala Ben-Hur. Would have made the movie 10 times better. :popcorn:

I'm bizarre because I think his dad is a freak
and I'm bizarre to think Mel made this film for his daddy?
win his dad's love?
far fetched
ok eat the fact he hates JEWS is that OK?

hahaha.. yeah. They should have threw in Chris Rock as the "funny disciple" for good measure

I'm bizarre because I think his dad is a freak
and I'm bizarre to think Mel made this film for his daddy?
win his dad's love?
far fetched
ok eat the fact he hates JEWS is that OK?[/b][/quote]

"I am bizarre because [insert any bizarre rationale here]" says it all. you blame admittedly unhealthy behavior and delusional rants on Mel Gibsons father for hating Jews and George Bush for hating Stern. I pray to God that no public figure makes an issue of hating goofy, bi-sexual Greeks because you will be the first one smuggling a dirty bomb into Manhatten or signing up for Jihad in Afghanistan.

Get a grip on yourself son.

Is that a masturbation reference?? :o

I personally don't know anything at all about how Mel Gibson feels about the Jews.

I have read that his father is one of those wackos who believes the holocaust was faked. It has as much affect on me as the fact that White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan's father has written a book that "proves" that LBJ killed JFK.

I have never been a big believer in the whole "sins of the father" theory, even when the father is a certafiable wacko.

"I am bizarre because [insert any bizarre rationale here]" says it all. you blame admittedly unhealthy behavior and delusional rants on Mel Gibsons father for hating Jews and George Bush for hating Stern. I pray to God that no public figure makes an issue of hating goofy, bi-sexual Greeks because you will be the first one smuggling a dirty bomb into Manhatten or signing up for Jihad in Afghanistan.

Get a grip on yourself son.[/b][/quote]
delusional rants?
stop me when i'm lying
mel's daddy hates jews
this could have an effect on his KID
who makes a movie some jews say, make jews out to be bastards

I listen to stern
CC takes stern off the air
now the FCC is fining everyone
Bush is a religious fuckin freak who had to appoint Powell head of the FCC as pay back to Powell
Bush spends a ton of money on the war
the war he lied to us about
spend that fuckin money on jobs and eduction HERE
Bush doesn't read the newspaper
he's an arrogant prick

spend money on jobs and education...

I guess you missed it in the other thread you started where Colin stated exactly how much $$ Bush has spent on education and how much he's raised the employment rate.

Missed might = conveniently ignored

completely agree

Ok, a few serious points here.

1) A father's beliefs and his child's. We've all seen that in extermist points of view the child can sometimes become just like the father. And we've all seen that the child can grow up to be the anithesist of the father.

Matter of fact I know very well of a family of a good friend, known them all for two decades easy. Father became one of the top police officers in the force, highly decorated. Two children, the daughter was validictorian with straight A's, the son was a C stdent and put in jail for 20 counts of grand theft auto. So there you go, just in one family two different responses.

2) I have never gotten the whole passion play thing nor stations of the cross. Think about it, it's rather a grisley thing, overly long and something that is not only reenacted in the Catholic church every single year, but one is constantly reminded of it by the crucifix.

3) Movies of the past 25 years have gotten to show "real" violence. One on level, yuck. But normally I approve. Why? Compare Gladiator to Spartacus, compare a modern Western to a John Wayne movie, compare Saving Private Ryan to the movie D-Day. Let's pick the last one. They hit the beach say 50 of them. One of them gets killed, you can tell by the little darkened spot on his chest. Another steps on a landmind, and we see the dummy (I mean the actual dummy) fly in the air in tact. By the time Wayne gets to shore, he's has two men killed and two guys injured slightly. Private Ryan, you get eight bullets in your chest and it gashes with blood, step on a mind and the body goes five bloody pieces. And when 50 got off the transport, maybe five made it alive 50 yards away. Not pretty, but more realistic and since war is hell, war is horrible, it's violent, I'd rather it portrayed that way than the anticeptic ways of earlier years. One should be horrified.

So look at Ryan and Gladiator and Braveheart (with the hacked torsos streaming blood, etc, and obviously the same director). The style of this Passion movie is only a continuation of the style movies have been made in the last quarter century. Now that said, since I don't get the whole passion play experience to begin with, yeah, the Gibson movie is over the top violent. If you get a kick at seeing any person brutally tortured to the utmost degree and presented as realisticly and as gorely as possible, hey, this movie is a must for you. But I didn't get the point when it was anticeptic, and I get the purpose here (of why anyone would want to see this) even less.

4) We all know that the Jewish temple leaders hated anyone who took the limelight off of them, and Jesus was becoming popular. Politics. Ok, let's take the crowd who said free Barabus. Like there weren't tons of Roman soldiers in the crowd (in a real situation) with daggers and swords who make sure the crowd votes the way they want. So did "Jews kill Jesus"? No. Although a few temple heads helped.

Ok, the Roman governor, pretty much a Roman governor thoustands of miles away could care less if he had a man in front of him who killed 60 other men of that same "barberic people", wherever that Roman would be, Spain, Israel, Turkey, doesn't matter. To him all peoples are below the Romans; he would think yeah kill more of them (from his stand point.) But what's the one thing a Roman steeped in his culture of control, uniformity, a strict hierarchy would consider the worse thing in his provence? A rebel, a demigod (no pun intended), someone people in his district could rally around, now THAT is a Roman menance far greater than any thief or murderer. So did the Romans kill Jesus? Yes. Why? Politics.

Was it because any of them belived him the Messiah? No, some Jewish leaders saw him as a threat to their power. Romans saw him a potential threat to the political stability. Period. Did they all react to other popular sect leaders before and after? Yes. You just never hear about them. Politics, pure and simple. No different from a thousand years before or today.

But then let's think about this too. A week before Jesus goes into the city knowing fully well his fate. He could have turned around. Nope. He (according to the New Testament) knew what was going to happen, who was going to betray him majorly (Judas) and minorly (Peter) and all of the other details. No bull, the only way it all adds up then with him knowing what he was walking into, bascially it adds up to suicide. No way around it. Who killed Jesus? He did himself.

Yep. Bloody brilliant and played the masses like a master violinist.

(Btw, pardon the many typos, but I wrote this in the wee hours)




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I haven't seen it yet, but I did rewatch Monty Python's "Life of Brian" -

"Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!"