I just watched passions of christ for my first time last night..... Alls i can say is WOW! Didnt know that things went that way back then.....i couldnt imagine the pain and torture! :grrr:

how did the movie end?

I just spit water all over my keyboard, LMAO

lol guess u'll just have to wait and watch serge :P

I have heard both possitive and negative on the movie.

From what I understand its pretty intense, and very violent. There is no doubt back in the day violence was a fact of life.

I will definately see the movie, just need to be in the right frame of mind.

One thing I find funny is that a lot of people have slammed the movie yet its still making tons of money. Many people underestimate the amount of Christians in the United States. Not all of them are the wacko fundamentalist liberals always try to pin things on.

Some of us agnostics are going to give Mel Gibson our money this week too...

I find ONE historical inaccuracy...
Christ was allegedly crucified in the Jerusalem, which is a desert, I know, I've been there.

There are no trees in the desert,
which makes crosses VERY valuable.

Would they let some beaten up mailnurishes prisoner carry an expensive cross and risk it been broken or stolen????

NO FUCKING WAY!
It would be MORE beleivable if he was DROWNED at the end!
;-))))

Serge, what fucktard would try to steal a cross from the Roman Legioniares while they were in the middle of a crucifixtion? LOL

Thats why i wished i understood the bible more, that way i knew what really went on AND WHERE that way i knew everything of what happened...i know some but id say half or less :)


I heard that a few people died from having a heartattack watching this movie, thats how dramatical it was for them :(



Last edited by WiLcOnE at Mar 1 2004, 03:44 PM

Serge, what fucktard would try to steal a cross from the Roman Legioniares while they were in the middle of a crucifixtion? LOL[/b][/quote]
you are a moron, aren't you????

never heard of...Ben Hur!!?????

he was killing Romans for less than a pice of a valuable wood!

Piece of wood in the desert during nite is more valuable than silver!
Makes great camp fire!
;-))))

A couple of my buddies while they were in the theatre said half were crying during and after the movie....Wouldnt even get out of there chairs after the movie, just sat there and thought about it...

I'll die from heart attack if
1) I find evidence that God really exist
2) if I find evidence that Christ ever existed
3) if I start beleiving that Bible is a historical document....

if I were you, I'd be chosing swinging buddies more carefully!
;-))))

are you an athiest serge?

are you an athiest serge?[/b][/quote]
yes, very hardcore one!
without proof or PREPAYMENT,
I don't beleive anything!


is that wrong?
;-))))

I can sum it up for you;


Some guy shows up. little is known about his family, childhood, brothers and sisters. He claims he is something. others cliam he is not. Some claim he did some magic stuff that apparently was somehow different than the other "healers" and "prophets" of the time. Finally he decided to challenge "The Man". "The Man" beat him and nailed him to a piece of wood. His bodied was not recovered and no one knows why... which in some peoples mind, leaves the only possible and rational conclusion that he must have came back to life and walked away.

most agree he promised to come back.

most agree he didn't.

though he preached love, countless millions of people were slaughtered in his name over the centuries because "spreading the love" was always a great excuse to conquer, rob, rape and pillage.

some are still waiting him to come back.

fewer and fewer care as both time and science progress.



Last edited by JR at Mar 1 2004, 12:58 PM

Not at all, everyone beleives in something

funny how some would look at the Taliban and scoff at their beliefs as being primitive and stupid... as if believing in the son of an all powerful ghost who one day got bored and created the universe makes a lot of sense.

this is an easiest part, I found the explanation why his body was never found.

As I mentioned earlier,
WOOD and crosses were EXPENSIVE,
there was a LONG waiting list for crucifictions!
Knowing Roman efficiency,
as soon as one body is done,
it was burnt and replaced with another body waiting in line.

Britts had no problems with wood/axes, so they chopped the heads off and put them on all historical London bridges.

Not at all, everyone beleives in something[/b][/quote]
I beleive in pre-payments,
thsi diety NEVER stirred me wrong
;_))))

JR, when I get to Hell,
should I request a double room for you to share eventually?
We can have a good times for all eternity!
;-))))

Yeah I don't know why so many people are in a hurry to see this movie ....


I mean you know how it's going to end already ......


...... why not just stay home and wait for it to come out on DVD?




and for the record I think this movie has the potential to be VERY BAD for America

While I'm an atheist I don't have much problem with anyone's choice of worship as long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else, does no harm and isn't pushed on anyone


This movie may start a huge Christan movement in America - which could be ok until Christians start trying to dictate laws which effect me and trying to force their religion on me (which is a part of some Christianity)


on the other hand Christianity and a firm belief in God are great for some, particular those who keep it to themselves and their places of worship

Example - am old high school chum of mine(with whom I was very close in High School) looked me up in the past few year. He has been over 2 years without a drink of Alcohol (he was a raging Alcoholic which landing him in a few bad situations). His faith in a higher power coupled with his bible studies and semi-regular church going (he didn't do AA) have helped him through not drinking and particularly through trying times such as the passing of his Father this January

We occasionally talk religion (but only if I bring it up) as I find comparative religions interesting but he respects my position that religion is superstition as I respect what his beliefs are and I acknowledge what his beliefs have help him accomplish

and he has no problem with my drinking while we watch football or go out to dinner

ive had no belief other then myself and in god....but i can see why your saying without proof or prepayment.....totally understandable.

vick, that post made me thristy : ))

:stout: :stout: :stout:

Yah vick i was just curious to see how they showed everything thats all, im not for any religion myself.....i just believe in god thats all...

Serge, your "faith" there is no God is also a faith-based belief system, unless you are an all knowing and all seeing God yourself, with a perfect knowledge of all that is and isn't in this universe.

Woody Allen's varaity beleiver?

"I believe that there's an intelligence to the universe with the exception of parts of New Jersey."

;_)))

now repeat the same thing in English I understand....moron!

i guess so......just something ive always believed in, i mean we might as well believe in something :)

Logically, Athieism requires faith. You have faith you're right there is no God. But, unless you know everything, see everything, you can't be 100% sure. Faith bridges the gap between what you absolutely know (1%?) and everything else (99%). You share the same "faith" Mel Gibson has, you're just on the other side of the fence.

yup yup

R_n, is that you? Have you lost your mind???
PROVE me you aren't him,
show me your tits!
;-))))

yup yup[/b][/quote]
you too!
;-)))

tits are welcomed!
;_)))

hahah serge u sure do like this topic dont ya

ANY tits are better than my dick,
run a poll if you don't beleive me
;-))))

I can sum it up for you;


Some guy shows up. little is known about his family, childhood, brothers and sisters. He claims he is something. others cliam he is not. Some claim he did some magic stuff that apparently was somehow different than the other "healers" and "prophets" of the time. Finally he decided to challenge "The Man". "The Man" beat him and nailed him to a piece of wood. His bodied was not recovered and no one knows why... which in some peoples mind, leaves the only possible and rational conclusion that he must have came back to life and walked away.

most agree he promised to come back.

most agree he didn't.

though he preached love, countless millions of people were slaughtered in his name over the centuries because "spreading the love" was always a great excuse to conquer, rob, rape and pillage.

some are still waiting him to come back.

fewer and fewer care as both time and science progress.[/b][/quote]
that pretty well sums it up. lets not forget about all the *others* who tried to emulate him.

A man is only as great as you allow him to be.

You misunderstand atheism.

Atheism is not necessarily denying the existance of god but an absence of belief in god.

This does not require faith.



Last edited by Joe Sixpack at Mar 1 2004, 01:46 PM

You misunderstand atheism.

Atheism is not necessarily denying the existance of god but an absence of belief in god.

This does not require faith.[/b][/quote]
right on the money, my man!

ANY tits are better than my dick,
run a poll if you don't beleive me
;-))))[/b][/quote]
oh no, 100% agreement with that one