[Labret] - I take serious offensive with your US flag burning avatar

Now you may be trying to express something or making some statement I don't get

While I respect your right to burn the US flag I also reserve the right to plant my foot in your ass for doing so

Many people have served and died for the country, freedoms and other things that flag represents.

Your using that avatar disrespects the past 4 generations of my family along with millions of others

Your using an avatar of the US flag being burned is lacking in respect, distasteful and ignorant

If you have problems with this great nation either work to solve them ..... or get out

and don't tell me you are leaving when ever .... go now....

In fact in you dislike America so much put your money where your mouth is and no longer accept US traffic and no longer take US dollars

I don't understand about your avatar. :( I must be retarded.

It's a clown riding a little bike on some big bubbles with a starry background.

Why do people hate that so much?

its actually makeing me hungry

but for what im not sure

Turkey or sex

:rolleyes:

I agree

:moon:

FATPad - reload the page, you're pulling my old avatar from cache memory
The new one is a Turkey Leg (chewed) hanging out of a vagina

Ahhh. Thanks.

bon appetite!
;-))))

I'll never look at thanksgiving dinner again,the same :(

bon appetite!
;-))))[/b][/quote]
Looks good to me. ;)

But I always mix my food.

This is the most idiotic reply to all america-hater threads there is. IF you dislike someone, you don't take their money? This fucking argument always makes me fucking angry. Of course, that's just my opinion.

This is the most idiotic reply to all america-hater threads there is. IF you dislike someone, you don't take their money? This fucking argument always makes me fucking angry. Of course, that's just my opinion.[/b][/quote]
true...
I was taking Ron's money even during the worst pisses and vice versa
;-)))

"Capitalists will sell us the rope we gonna hang them on"

(--V.I Lenin)

;-)))

This is the most idiotic reply to all america-hater threads there is. IF you dislike someone, you don't take their money? This fucking argument always makes me fucking angry. Of course, that's just my opinion.[/b][/quote]
Actually the best thing you can do is take money from someone or something you don't like or agree with

But in this case I like to challenge to put money where the mouth is to prove the lack of courage in their convictions

I fail to see your point.

LOL Vick, I respect the way you express yourself I really do, But that avatar, although not offensive, makes me wana yack!! LOL guess my stomach is too weak to consider using a turkey leg in quite the same way>

as for Labret, I used to get livid when i saw someone, esp an American who benefits greatly by the rights afforded to them by the mere fact that they are US Citizens, burning any symbol of our freedom. I thought about the blood that paid for our freedoms, I think of the tenacity of our ancestors, and what it took to build this country into what it is. I think of how little respect it takes to do something so offensive to the great Americans of the past.
I used to get livid, now I recognize it for what it is. It is only ignorance and immaturity (irregarless of age). I view it as offensive as someone saying the word nigger. The word itself is powerless. We assign it its power by the affect it has on us personally. So to is the act of burning a flag. It is done to offend. Allowing it to have that effect gives power to the person who wishes that effect. I give them the power to offend (or piss me right the fuck off) by buying into their bullshit. I add credibility to their argument by allowing passions to get the better of me.
As for me, let him keep the avatar, let him revel in its beauty to him. Time will heal his eyes and he will see what he has done, and then it will matter.


spaz

Very good point spaz - thanks for sharing that perspective

4 generations of men who served Vick? I can completely understand and respect your perspective to.

I do apologize if that post kinda came off assholish, just my approach to people who want me pissed is to not be heh heh
I win :)


spaz

spaz - you didn't come off as assholish, not at all

My Great-grandfather served during WWI

My Grandfather served in WWII, he was on the first American ship into Tokyo Bay at the end of WWII, he is an artist and cabinetmaker.
He drew the postmark that was used for all mail coming from that ship. He still has envelopes with the postmark he drew that was printed on them

My Father served in the National Guard

My Brother was one of the last American soldiers at the Berlin Wall

I enjoy the liberties and privileges I have because of their and many others sacrifices

interestingly enough,
despite the fact that I am only here 24 years,
my family member gave life for America.
I told this story many times..
My grandfather's brother Michael left Russia to Palestine in 1911 because he didn't wanna serve in Russian Army.
In 1914 the WWI started and Ottoman Turks tried to get him into the Turkish Army.
He left his wife and son and went to America. He fell in love with USA and volunteered into US Army and died in Verden in 1918...
I have his round army tag with his serial number...

Vick & Serge, what can be said but 'WOW" honestly. When i read or hear stories of Americans who have served, or gave the Ultimate, its strange. Because as a Former serviceman myself, and as someone who was brought up to love our country. I always feel a special connection with them. A kinship, like they are a member of my family or something. Yes, I am proud to be associated with people like Vicks Grandfather and Serge's Great Uncle and thanks to you guys for sharing them with me. :okthumb:

spaz

why is burning a flag so offensive?

people get all like schoolgirl bitches when someone burns a piece of cloth.

funny.

http://www.usip.org/peacewatch/2002/8/images/flag.jpg

http://www.msnbc.com/news/1210035.jpg

http://www.atasite.org/screenings/im...rning_well.jpg

http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/ara...g_burning2.jpg



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Nov 23 2003, 08:58 AM

America is more than a country...
Much more than a flag....

America is an idea...........

And you cannot burn ideas. :blink:

you are right, there is nothing wrong with your friends..why don't you join them?


http://www.msnbc.com/news/1210035.jpg

It's what the flag stands for, it's not "a piece of cloth"

By disrespecting that symbol you're disrespecting all that has been done, all the sacrifices that have been made. That's wrong in every respect

As for your schoolgirl bitches remark - are you in the bottle now are waiting to open it?


All these punching bags come over from GFY
I humiliated grogan - it was embarrassingly easy but I lost the taste for it

beat your chest some more.

*groooowls*

OK, its a turkey leg on your sig Vick. I've been wondering what that was exactly.

On the subject of flag burning. Isn't that the ultimate expression of a country's freedom? Though I'm not a fan of it, it is a symbolism of and in itself.

Well, I don't know about the good old USA but in finland, when the flag gets dirty (touches the ground) it should be burned or buried. Having a fucking dirty, ripped apart flag hanging on your dirty backyard is DISRESPECT. When I was in internext in august, I saw SOO many usa flags that it's not even funny. That's disrespect as well.. showing the fucking flag down in every possible situation. Just my worthless euro 2 cents.

...maybe those arabs' US flag touched the ground.

shit, how did I miss this thread. I always saw the title and just assumed it was just about turkey neck in vagina.

In response... stop crying, bitch.



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 23 2003, 01:01 PM

where is your intuition, sociologist?
;-))

Funny Serge, we have similar stories...

My great grandfather deserted the Russian army, when they were going
to fight the Sino-Japanese war, and eventually emigrated to America.
He refused to fight a country he'd never heard of... :salute:



Last edited by nlphoto at Nov 23 2003, 02:01 PM

where is your intuition, sociologist?
;-))[/b][/quote]

Like I see "and it's been said my avatar is offensive, or just plain nasty ;-)" and should assume it is about me?

I just thought it was more old people yammering.

Like I see "and it's been said my avatar is offensive, or just plain nasty ;-)" and should assume it is about me?

I just thought it was more old people yammering.[/b][/quote]
32 is not exactly young, son...GFYers call your dinosour
;-)))

Old = older than me. Most of you whiners are my parents age.

This place reminds me of YNOT at times. Sitting around and shaking your fists at the kids from the porch.

Old = older than me. Most of you whiners are my parents age.

This place reminds me of YNOT at times. Sitting around and shaking your fists at the kids from the porch.[/b][/quote]
oh no....the key doifference between YNOT and Oprano:
it's OK to bury those kids 6 feet under
;-)))

I'd say you're an idiot ...

.... but that would be an insult to idiots everywhere

You're afraid of real life so you study it. How amusing, sad and ironic

at 32 it would be hoped you had more sense. At 32 you have the sense and values of a 20 year old





Last edited by Vick at Nov 23 2003, 05:25 PM

Well, I don't know about the good old USA but in finland, when the flag gets dirty (touches the ground) it should be burned or buried. Having a fucking dirty, ripped apart flag hanging on your dirty backyard is DISRESPECT. When I was in internext in august, I saw SOO many usa flags that it's not even funny. That's disrespect as well.. showing the fucking flag down in every possible situation. Just my worthless euro 2 cents.[/b][/quote]
Same here in the USA about when a flag is dirty, has toughed the ground or is worn (or old) and I agree having a dirty or ripped flag flying in your yard is disrespectful

In the USA we are showing our unity and patriotism especially after the 9/11 tragedy

That's why you saw so many flags

But you still have to take in account burning the USA flag in protest is wrong and disrespectful
and while I support the right to do so I also reserve the right to plant a foot in the ass of anyone doing so

Please enlighten me. What sense should I have by this age?

I study "life"? I study culture and society on a micro and macro level, art history, and human evolution. I fear something I will eventually receive a phd in? Instead of just being a passive sheap, I choose to understand why people "do the things they do". Its about fear, uh huh.

Seriously, is this is the level of debate I can expect from you?



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 23 2003, 02:36 PM

You know you're lost so you ask for help

But you're not worthy nor have the intellect to understand. Nor will I waste my valuable time trying to educate, enlighten and stimulate your little mind

Your words and actions show where your intellect is, that of a 20 year old.
You're a lifelong student afraid of real life (not that all students are afraid of real life, learning is a lifelong passion)

Adiós, don't wait for May to leave the USA

What will your thesis be on?

You seem to study much and yet have learned nothing.