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voodooman 09-05-2003 09:03 PM

Webmasters heading to Arizona next week might want to reconsider. A Florida judge handed over documents of Fraud in refernce to NetManagement/TrafficcashGold,etc , to the proper authorities. # 7 says it ALL,and #13 is embarrasing.....

Mr. Bennett and Steve Workman look to be going "up river"....
What comes around goes around... You can read Dream Magazine in jail;-)))





JOSEPH B. ELKIND,

Plaintiffs,
vs.

JOHN BENNETT, NET MANAGEMENT SERVICES, L.L.C., BREAKERS ASSET HOLDINGS, A.V.V., I-BILL.COM, INC., EPIC/PAYCOM, INC., CC BILL.COM, INC., STEVEN WORKMAN, KENNETH KNOX, FISHER & PHILLIPS, L.L.P., RICHARD J. ALAN CAHAN, and BECKER & POLIAKOFF, P.A.,

Defendants.
________________________________/ IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE 17TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA

CASE NO: 02-014594














MOTION FOR SANCTION AND TO COMPEL THE DEPOSITIONS OF JOHN BENNET, LISA BENETT, BRIDGET SHAW, STEVEN WORKMAN AND OR OTHER RELEVANT WITNESS

COMES NOW, the Plaintiff, JOSEPH ELKIND, by and through his undersigned counsel and moves this Court for an order compelling JOHN BENNET, LISA BENETT, BRIDGET SHAW, STEVEN WORKMAN AND OR OTHER REPRESENTATIVES OF NET MANAGEMENT, INC. to submit to deposition and in support there of states:
1. The proposed witnesses were sued by Joseph Elkind or are employees of Defendants in this cause.
2. Judge Charles Greene granted a motion of the defendants to compel arbitration in the Bahamas.

3. The defendant, John Bennett has steadfastly refused to comply with the request of the Bahamian Arbitrator to complete the arbitration. That is the subject of another motion.
4. Sealed within the court file is a preliminary report of work product information turned over to the Assistant State Attorney prosecuting the State vs. Joseph Elkind criminal contempt matter, which details serial and pervasive illegality on the part of John Bennett, Steve Workman, Bridget Shaw and Lisa Bennett.
5. Bridget Shaw is the controller for the company who was formally John Bennett’s girlfriend. She has been instrumental in the providing of fraudulent and false financial statements to Joseph Elkind.
6. Lisa Bennett has been involved in the use of her home address to avoid having Elkind be aware of certain bank accounts through which John Bennett stole from Joseph Elkind.
7. Counsel for Plaintiff is in possession of two subsequent reports detailing this and other substantial information detailing the illegal and criminal conduct primarily of Bennett and Workman which he would present to the court for in camera inspection if the court so desires. Judge Greene sealed the report because it is part of a criminal investigative file of the State Attorney and/or other authorities .
8. John Bennett is currently under investigation by the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division because of matters set forth in the complaint herein and because of matters set forth in the report which is sealed within the court file.

9. Judge Charles Green was so concerned when he read the nature of the evidence against Bennett that he conducted an in-camera hearing wherein he required counsel for Elkind and counsel for State to state on the record what disclosures they had made of this evidence, as required by Ethics Standards for Florida Lawyers. Moreover Judge Greene took testimony from Bennett’s lawyer Leonard Samuels in Elkind’s application for permission to travel freely to the Bahamas. Bennett objected. In overruling Bennett’s objection, the court noted that Samuel’s testimony conflicted with other independent evidence. Clearly the court, in its ruling, was not impressed with the credibility of attorney Leonard Samuels.
10. The business that is at issue in the case, has as its legal owner the Private Trust Corporation in Nassau, Bahamas. Mr. Bennett has been confronted with his illegal behavior by the Private Trust Corporation, and rather than answer to his Trustee who is also the Trustee for Joseph Elkind, Mr. Bennett simply hung up on the Private Trust Corporation and refused to answer questions. Mr. Bennett is in control of Net Management and the related entities of this off-shore structure all of which are beneficially owned 50/50 by Mr. Bennett and Mr. Elkind. Mr. Elkind is being starved by Mr. Bennett.
11. In that regard, counsel will produce an email from Steven Workman to this court which shows that it was the intent of Mr. Bennett and Mr. Workman (Mr. Workman is the General Counsel to Net Management) to starve Mr. Elkind. The response the has been forth coming from the defense on this issue is that this is a “stolen” email.

12. This statement which has been made repeatedly by Leonard Samuels is one which is simply without merit and Mr. Samuels knows this because one can not “steal” that which is his. Mr. Bennett and Mr. Elkind own each and every one of these emails and databases 50/50. Moreover the Private Trust Corporation will confirm that should this court wish to take evidence on the point. In a related matter, Net Management brought suit against Joseph Elkind in front of Judge Jeffery Streitfeld. Depositions were scheduled to be taken in that case of the proposed parties in this case, yet rather than submit for deposition, and after having withheld from Judge Streifeld the material fact that Joseph Elkind was an owner of Net Management, Net Management took a voluntary dismissal of that claim.
13. Most recently, in this case Net Management has filed a counterclaim for which a motion for referral to arbitration to the Bahamas was denied. In that counterclaim, Net Management claims among other things, that is has lost income as a result of the actions of Joseph Elkind. The purpose of the counterclaim was to enjoin Elkind from disseminating emails, which Elkind owns to third parties. It is believed that there was a misrepresentation of the damages sustained to the court in that the true reason for the counterclaim was that the emails that were being disseminated by Joseph Elkind revealed nothing but embarrassing information about John Bennett. For example, Bennett repeatedly refers to himself in emails between him and various women as “Viagra Man.” He also makes compelling statements about the business that are contrary to the positions he has taken in this litigation.
14. The injunction proceeding is now on appeal and it is also the subject of the counterclaim being brought by Net Management against Joseph Elkind. Elkind seeks to take the deposition of these witnesses on the issues raised in the counterclaim.

15. Elkind is quite certain that once this court enters an order requiring Bennett and these witnesses to submit to depositions, the claims being made in the counterclaim will be dismissed. The reason for this is simple. Once it becomes inevitable that Bennett will have to answer questions under oath that will be probing and direct, dealing with issues of his criminality, and illegality, he will do everything to keep from sitting for deposition.
16. However, there is pending before this court a claim against Kenneth Knox and Fisher & Phillips, P.A. for selling out his client Joseph Elkind and causing his “firing” and exclusion from the business. That case has not been stayed, but rather remains an active pending litigation. Mr. Knox most recently gave a deposition in that regard and even without the counterclaim, the testimony of these particular witnesses is relevant to that pending case.
17. The lengths to which Mr. Bennett and his counsel will go to prevent any discovery are, to be certain without limits. Most recently, Leonard Samuels, Esquire, went to Judge Patty Henning and misrepresented to her the reason a protective order needed to be granted for a deposition pertaining to a third party witness. Mr. Samuels went to Judge Henning on the day he had a hearing with Elkind’s counsel before Judge Streitfeld. After that hearing was over, counsel for Mr. Bennett was walking out of the courthouse with counsel for Mr. Elkind, the two lawyers parted company and Mr. Samuels turned around and went and got an emergency ex-parte order in front of Judge Henning. Mr. Samuels simply failed to mention to counsel for Mr. Elkind who was present at the time in the courthouse that he would be applying for an order. His behavior is unethical and dishonest and reeks of a “win at all costs” mentality.

18. For all of the foregoing reasons, the court should order an immediate deposition of John Bennett, Steven Workman, Lisa Bennett and Bridget Shaw. Moreover the court should clarify that all discovery relevant to either the counterclaim or the claim pending against Kenneth Knox is appropriate to go forward as there is no reasonable basis to say that these depositions can not occur. It is also clear that there is no reason to refuse discovery on issues that are to be arbitrated in the Bahamas.
WHEREFORE, JOSEPH ELKIND moves for an order in accord with this motion.
WE HEREBY CERTIFY that a true and correct copy of the foregoing has been furnished via United States mail on this ___ day of September 2003 to: all parties on the attached mailing list.

MINEO & DELLAPINA, P.A.
Trial Lawyers Building, Suite 4F
633 Southeast Third Avenue
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

By: _______________________________
PETER MINEO JR.
Florida Bar No: 328928

Hooper 09-05-2003 09:22 PM

I like Joe & John both.. too bad they are fighting... but you should get somebody besides and ice employee to post things like that.

Makes them more believable when they are from a neutral source :)

BradShaw 09-05-2003 09:27 PM

Greg will be in Phx. Thanks to JB for the invite. I will be in Cabo fishing.

SykkBoy 09-05-2003 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper@Sep 5 2003, 08:30 PM
I like Joe & John both.. too bad they are fighting... but you should get somebody besides and ice employee to post things like that.

Makes them more believable when they are from a neutral source :)

Like Luke Ford maybe? ;-)

slavdogg 09-05-2003 09:34 PM

who else is going to Pnx ?

Hooper 09-05-2003 09:38 PM

Wiseman will be going.. i've got too much going on right now :)

*KK* 09-05-2003 09:44 PM

Wow, the spelling and grammar in that mess is so ridiculously bad I think my kid could have done a better job.

Unreal.

Winetalk.com 09-05-2003 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper@Sep 5 2003, 08:30 PM
I like Joe & John both.. too bad they are fighting... but you should get somebody besides and ice employee to post things like that.

Makes them more believable when they are from a neutral source :)

hmmm...and how would the third parties know the facts?

is there FBI agents in the house?
;-)))

Winetalk.com 09-05-2003 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by *KK*@Sep 5 2003, 08:52 PM
Wow, the spelling and grammar in that mess is so ridiculously bad I think my kid could have done a better job.

Unreal.

KK,
will you take a "bullet" for John?

*KK* 09-05-2003 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Sep 5 2003, 07:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Sep 5 2003, 07:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--*KK*@Sep 5 2003, 08:52 PM
Wow, the spelling and grammar in that mess is so ridiculously bad I think my kid could have done a better job.

Unreal.

KK,
will you take a "bullet" for John?[/b][/quote]
Sure, when you take one for Joe ;)

And read the papers, is it John Bennett or John Bennet? LOL.

BradShaw 09-05-2003 11:40 PM

Who all is going to phx for this TCG gathering other than slav and greg? I take it Joe will not be there?


I will be in PHX first week of September. 2 trips out there within a month was just too much for me. Not to mention the marlin are biting!



Last edited by BradShaw at Sep 5 2003, 07:49 PM

voodooman 09-05-2003 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper@Sep 5 2003, 07:30 PM
I like Joe & John both.. too bad they are fighting... but you should get somebody besides and ice employee to post things like that.

Makes them more believable when they are from a neutral source :)

First, Im not just some Ice Employee.

2nd That was JoeE using my acct.

sarettah 09-05-2003 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 5 2003, 10:48 PM
I will be in PHX first week of September. 2 trips out there within a month was just too much for me. Not to mention the marlin are biting!
um Brad....

The first week of September is just ending......



:blink:

BradShaw 09-05-2003 11:49 PM

Make that first week of Oct.

voodooman 09-06-2003 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by *KK*+Sep 5 2003, 09:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*KK* @ Sep 5 2003, 09:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Sep 5 2003, 07:03 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--*KK*
Quote:

@Sep 5 2003, 08:52 PM
Wow, the spelling and grammar in that mess is so ridiculously bad I think my kid could have done a better job.

Unreal.


KK,
will you take a "bullet" for John?

Sure, when you take one for Joe ;)

And read the papers, is it John Bennett or John Bennet? LOL.[/b][/quote]
KK


Spelling and grammar are not the important issues here.

JR 09-06-2003 12:44 AM

did i miss something... or is this just a request for the court to order depositions of those people named in the motion? Seems odd after all this time that they haven't been.

Hooper 09-06-2003 01:43 AM

My bad voodooman. just assumed from your sig that you worked for ice and thought you had mentioned it before :)

PornoDoggy 09-06-2003 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JR@Sep 5 2003, 11:52 PM
did i miss something... or is this just a request for the court to order depositions of those people named in the motion? Seems odd after all this time that they haven't been.
That's what it looks like to me.

Winetalk.com 09-06-2003 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by *KK*@Sep 5 2003, 10:30 PM

KK,
will you take a "bullet" for John?


Sure, when you take one for Joe ;)

[/quote]
women....always conditions in every step they make!
;-))

gonzo 09-06-2003 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Sep 6 2003, 02:44 AM
Quote:

Originally Posted by *KK*,Sep 5 2003, 10:30 PM
KK,
will you take a "bullet" for John?

Sure, when you take one for Joe ;)



women....always conditions in every step they make!
;-))
[/quote]
WHat do you expect Serge?

She aint even a betting woman.

*KK* 09-06-2003 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by voodooman+Sep 5 2003, 08:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (voodooman @ Sep 5 2003, 08:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -*KK*@Sep 5 2003, 09:30 PM
Quote:

Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Sep 5 2003, 07:03 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--*KK*

Quote:

Quote:

@Sep 5 2003, 08:52 PM
Wow, the spelling and grammar in that mess is so ridiculously bad I think my kid could have done a better job.

Unreal.


KK,
will you take a "bullet" for John?


Sure, when you take one for Joe ;)

And read the papers, is it John Bennett or John Bennet? LOL.

KK


Spelling and grammar are not the important issues here.[/b][/quote]
Spelling and grammar are always important when the language you write with can make all the difference in your 'case'.

Winetalk.com 09-06-2003 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gonzo@Sep 6 2003, 11:41 AM

WHat do you expect Serge?


I expect that we all gonna die and go to Heaven...don't you?
;-)))

PornoDoggy 09-06-2003 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by *KK*+Sep 6 2003, 12:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*KK* @ Sep 6 2003, 12:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -voodooman@Sep 5 2003, 08:14 PM
Quote:

Originally posted by -*KK*@Sep 5 2003, 09:30 PM
Quote:

Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Sep 5 2003, 07:03 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--*KK*


Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

@Sep 5 2003, 08:52 PM
Wow, the spelling and grammar in that mess is so ridiculously bad I think my kid could have done a better job.

Unreal.


KK,
will you take a "bullet" for John?


Sure, when you take one for Joe ;)

And read the papers, is it John Bennett or John Bennet? LOL.


KK


Spelling and grammar are not the important issues here.

Spelling and grammar are always important when the language you write with can make all the difference in your 'case'.[/b][/quote]
Quit clouding the issue with relevant facts.

*KK* 09-06-2003 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Sep 6 2003, 10:07 AM
Quit clouding the issue with relevant facts.
You're right, what the hell was I thinking!

Winetalk.com 09-06-2003 04:41 PM

KK, how familiar are you with the case?

*KK* 09-06-2003 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Sep 6 2003, 12:49 PM
KK, how familiar are you with the case?
Obviously not familiar enough with it to be on the list.

Winetalk.com 09-06-2003 06:20 PM

darn,
with GFY locking the threads,
I guess we'll have to wait for more information posted on Oprano-
as I always been curious whom IRS/FBI busts next....

gotta make an interesting reading.

Peaches 09-06-2003 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Sep 6 2003, 06:28 PM
as I always been curious whom IRS/FBI busts next....

gotta make an interesting reading.

Several years ago they came to my home to interview me about a former employer of mine. Even though it had NOTHING to do with me personally and I was in ZERO trouble, "nervous" doesn't even begin to describe it. :zoinks:

He's now serving 4.5 years in a Club Fed, BTW. :huh:

voodooman 09-06-2003 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper@Sep 5 2003, 11:51 PM
My bad voodooman. just assumed from your sig that you worked for ice and thought you had mentioned it before :)
Hooper,

No worries. I do work at ICE, but not a typical employee.

:D

confucy 09-07-2003 02:53 PM

voodooman, why are you allowing your boss to use your Oprano name? Lensman would be banning your ass if you did that on GFY. JoeE posts every legal document in the world...keep 'em coming.

If you are not a *typical employee*, then what kind are you?

Do you miss California? Since you left, dig was able to afford a new car. You must have been one expensive Setgo employee! :wnw:

gonzo 09-07-2003 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Sep 6 2003, 09:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Sep 6 2003, 09:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--gonzo@Sep 6 2003, 11:41 AM

WHat do you expect Serge?


I expect that we all gonna die and go to Heaven...don't you?
;-)))[/b][/quote]
I dont expect anything. You never know what may happen.

Reckon they will have porn up there?
If so can you sign me up for that prepaid credit card promo again so we can start over like old times?

gonzo 09-07-2003 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by confucy@Sep 7 2003, 11:01 AM
voodooman, why are you allowing your boss to use your Oprano name? Lensman would be banning your ass if you did that on GFY. JoeE posts every legal document in the world...keep 'em coming.

If you are not a *typical employee*, then what kind are you?

Do you miss California? Since you left, dig was able to afford a new car. You must have been one expensive Setgo employee! :wnw:

Dos Tip!

This aint GFY.

Winetalk.com 09-07-2003 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by confucy@Sep 7 2003, 02:01 PM
voodooman, why are you allowing your boss to use your Oprano name? Lensman would be banning your ass if you did that on GFY. JoeE posts every legal document in the world...keep 'em coming.

If you are not a *typical employee*, then what kind are you?

Do you miss California? Since you left, dig was able to afford a new car. You must have been one expensive Setgo employee! :wnw:

confucy,
we have:
Lensman banned,
Joee banned,
JB banned,
US Supreme Court banned,
and we probably gonna ban voodoo or make him a partner,
we haven't decided on it yet...

how is your day going, sweety?

cj 09-07-2003 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gonzo+Sep 7 2003, 02:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Sep 7 2003, 02:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--confucy@Sep 7 2003, 11:01 AM
voodooman, why are you allowing your boss to use your Oprano name? Lensman would be banning your ass if you did that on GFY. JoeE posts every legal document in the world...keep 'em coming.

If you are not a *typical employee*, then what kind are you?

Do you miss California? Since you left, dig was able to afford a new car. You must have been one expensive Setgo employee! :wnw:

Dos Tip!

This aint GFY.[/b][/quote]
maybe not, but she's still got a good point!

voodoo, newsflash - you are just a 'normal' employee. all of joe's 'normal employees' are convinced they are special and different and that it was the stupid useless 'employees' who came before who are evil! not joe himself!

the words that come to mind are

puppet
scapegoat
whipping boy

i hope he doesn't fuck you like he fucks everyone else voodoo, you are too nice of a person to swim with sharks, but it looks to me like the strings are being played beautifully by this pathetic moron who thinks a copy paste of some legal crap about his ex partners, using an employees username, is going to earn respect ...

just remember - a fast ride, all expenses paid, girls, overseas trips etc are NOT money in the bank. enjoy it while it lasts, because when you leave you'll have less than when you started and a really sore ass :okthumb:

you don't have to believe me, because you WILL find out for yourself ;-)

hi joe!!
:bwave:
i hope jb & the tcg crew fry your ass
:okthumb:

confucy 09-07-2003 07:01 PM

Serge, you will have to admit, JoeE has a very interesting nose and a great tan. He almost looks as good as Gonzo in a furcoat! :cdance:

gonzo 09-07-2003 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by confucy@Sep 7 2003, 03:09 PM
Serge, you will have to admit, JoeE has a very interesting nose and a great tan. He almost looks as good as Gonzo in a furcoat! :cdance:
Im not too far away from Florida to get a nose like that...however my bank account is.

Fuck the tan!

And hell my eyes aint blue but I sure as hell can drink better'n he can. Us Irish boys usually do.

And CJ....please tell me how you really feel....
Im really suprised at both of you being the Pro Freedom of speech Damsels.
I say post all the preceedings as long as you post the verdict when its all done!

photogregg 09-07-2003 09:24 PM

Damn,
Seems like all the local folks in S. FL are banned...at least MikeW, MikeAI and I'm still here

We've done work with Net Mgmt and with IceColdCash, both paid the $$$ when the bill came in...no problems with either of them, but I love to hear how the battle for world porn domination (in their minds) will turn out

cj 09-07-2003 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gonzo@Sep 7 2003, 06:32 PM
And CJ....please tell me how you really feel....
Im really suprised at both of you being the Pro Freedom of speech Damsels.
I say post all the preceedings as long as you post the verdict when its all done!

i never said anything about not posting the details - i've read a lot of similar 'documents' online regarding the tcg/joe drama (and joe's other 'activities' ... *ahem*) - i'd prefer to read the official version instead of joe's bullshit-filled late night dribble version ...


'pro freedom of speech damsels' - that's something i haven't been called before :biglaugh:

Winetalk.com 09-07-2003 11:03 PM

people, aren't we glad that at the end all those matters will be decided by higher authorities instead of webmaster chat boards?
;-)))



we haven't had so much drama since Cohen days and we are overdue
;-)))

Opti 09-07-2003 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Sep 8 2003, 01:11 PM
people, aren't we glad that at the end all those matters will be decided by higher authorities instead of webmaster chat boards?
;-)))



we haven't had so much drama since Cohen days and we are overdue
;-)))

always the voice of reason in a storm ;-))


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