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Opti 11-14-2002 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt@Nov 15 2002, 12:29 AM
hi Opti ...... yep i got that email. I'm sure i replied to it. u didn't get a reply?
no :(

Mutt 11-14-2002 07:54 AM

Opti i did reply to that e-mail.

You asked if i wanted the stat-o-matic domain which you had on your server.

I replied something like you should keep it because i'm in no position to do anything with it since i can barely install a messageboard, that if you and Peter developed it more maybe we could still partner it with Oprano or something.

Seems like a lot of people are concerned that RevStats necessitates giving out your username/passwords........... couldn't this 'problem' be overcome with some kind of encryption scheme?

Opti 11-14-2002 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt@Nov 15 2002, 01:02 AM
Opti i did reply to that e-mail.

You asked if i wanted the stat-o-matic domain which you had on your server.

I replied something like you should keep it because i'm in no position to do anything with it since i can barely install a messageboard, that if you and Peter developed it more maybe we could still partner it with Oprano or something.

Seems like a lot of people are concerned that RevStats necessitates giving out your username/passwords........... couldn't this 'problem' be overcome with some kind of encryption scheme?

Thanks Mutt .. I dont doubt you did... in fact that rings a bell so maybe I am just going senile :\

Revstats doesnt require the giving of passwords.. they are stored on your own PC.. I guess they have to go via revstats to the sponsor though.. is that an issue too?

Mutt 11-14-2002 08:11 AM

a few people in this thread have voiced concern over RevStats. Maybe the concern is not valid but it's RevStats job to make sure people's concerns are addressed so they are reassured and might become a subscriber.

I'd be interested to know which company has more subscribers, RevStats or StatsRemote.

Opti's thing was going to be installed on people's own server, with an option to send stats to a central server on an 'anonymous' basis.

cj 11-14-2002 08:17 AM

I'd be interested to know which company has more subscribers, RevStats or StatsRemote.
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well, i only see 1 rep out here answering questions so i'm sure it will become obvious soon enough ;-)

J B 11-14-2002 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by cj@Nov 14 2002, 05:25 AM
I'd be interested to know which company has more subscribers, RevStats or StatsRemote.
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well, i only see 1 rep out here answering questions so i'm sure it will become obvious soon enough ;-)

Well, I don't know how many subscribers RevStats has. They launched their program about 9 months before we launched StatsRemote, so they might have more than we do... they might have less though... who knows? :)

Anyway, if you need more (background) info about both programs, here are a few links...

http://www.pornresource.com/article.php?aid=583

http://www.pornresource.com/article.php?aid=441

http://www.webmasterjoint.com/articles/050...statsremote.php

Mutt 11-14-2002 04:18 PM

the articles at PR aren't dated. When did you product launch JB?

i started thinking of this idea about 9 months before I saw Opti's thing, which i guess is a little short of 2 years ago cuz Opti's thing is a bit over a year ago.

I didn't know what to do with the idea since i'm not a programmer and I didn't know if the processors/programs would allow a program to do mine their data. It looked like a big cluster fuck. My idea was more like RevStats than yours which is a Windows client.

So do programs and processors have to ok this or do something on their end to allow your software to work with them or it's not necessary?

J B 11-14-2002 04:36 PM

Mutt... we launched StatsRemote in May this year, beta testing started in February with about 50 people.

AFAIK RevStats was launched in fall last year... might have been earlier though, I don't know.

We contacted all sponsors and cc processors that were included in the first release before we launched it. Actually quite a few helped us beta testing the software and also made sure that we don't collect any personal data and don't have access to their webmasters' accounts.

Usually the programs and processors don't have to do anything to be included. StatsRemote just logs into the stats areas and gathers all relevant data.

After we released the software many sponsors actually contacted us because their webmasters asked them to make sure to be supported by StatsRemote :)

slavdogg 11-14-2002 08:24 PM

Mutt, i always found it interesting how so many people can come up with nearly identical invention at around the same time.

I personaly first heard of such a thing about 2 years ago from Koko http://www.softwarebucks.com/

Mutt 11-14-2002 08:55 PM

i know slavv. the key is to get your idea out of your head and get it on the market before anybody else. most good ideas are fairly simple. i just thought one day how cool it would be if you could hit a button on some software and it would go off and pull all your stats from all the affiliate programs and then let you sort them, do some comparisons, $ per click.

Was Koko also working on something like this?

I know when i got the idea - i was looking at a price comparison shopping site and in real time this bot would go off and get prices from about 40 different stores. Then i started surfing for sites with info about this bot technology and thought how cool it would be to get all your affiliate stats with a push of a button.

If StatsRemote and RevStats become popular you can bet there will be copycats and somebody will put out a free one supported by advertising.

slavdogg 11-14-2002 09:16 PM

mutt, you should make a free version :)
its pretty easy to do, i'm only looking at statsremote.
take that and add a rotating banners at the bottom of it, kinda like icq.



but than again, why buy the cow when you've got the milk.

J B 11-14-2002 09:24 PM

The free version with banners was already implemented half a year ago. That was our backup plan... fortunately it doesn't look like we need it :)

cj 11-14-2002 10:23 PM

but than again, why buy the cow when you've got the milk.
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exactly

all these ideas in this thread are great, but what it comes down to is that someone else has done it already so why bother

I've just started setting up my stats in my revstats program and its awesome ;-)))

Slavik, purvebucks will be in there as of next week if you'd like to test some traffic ;-)

Mutt 11-14-2002 11:29 PM

your revstats program cj?

i thought you were promoting stats remote? it's in your sig. :blink:

cj 11-14-2002 11:40 PM

i meant stats remote ;-)


i can't even use the 'its late at night' excuse for my slip! ;/

slavdogg 11-15-2002 05:14 AM

cj, i'd love to but i wouldnt know how to promote Fem sites.:)

i dont even like promoting gay sites, i just know to send traffic to Jonas

cj 11-15-2002 05:34 AM

cj, i'd love to but i wouldnt know how to promote Fem sites
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http://www.pornelle.com

this is one of our most successful test webmasters so far .....
traffic is sent to this page from a search engine page built to promote general sex keywords with a link that says 'ladies, porn for women here'

we tried a womens keyword targetted search campaign and it converted 1/600 ... the above page converts 1/150

its just numbers, not rocket science ;-)
its just like any other sponsor, you'll either make money off this niche or you won't ...

DynaMite 11-15-2002 06:18 AM

Ok I´m a bit late but I use revstats since january last year for one of my
sites which is a paysite review site. We monitor over 1500 different
programs with it......and I´m a very satisfied customer.

If we signup for programs which are not on the list we fill out a form on
their website and within the next week it´s added. Hank and his crew
have their shit together on this one... I have checked out other programs
aswell....some seem nice but this gives me a lot of detailed info and is
maintained for me.....all I do is login and check realtime or read my reports
that are being sent by email....

We use it for 11 months now and it has not let us down.......so for whoever
cares.....I can say....revstats rocks!

DynaMite :)

Opti 11-15-2002 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt@Nov 15 2002, 02:03 PM
I know when i got the idea - i was looking at a price comparison shopping site and in real time this bot would go off and get prices from about 40 different stores. Then i started surfing for sites with info about this bot technology
Mutt, any chance that site was call http://clicksguide.com ?

The developers put a LOT of cash into the idea.. sounds very cool
http://www.gracematthews.com/news/articles/bj3.html

The domain dropped recently.. ;)

Mutt 11-15-2002 11:56 AM

you picked up the domain Opti :bdance:

no that wasn't it. this site went out in real time and got prices from many many stores.

some of these comparison stores data mine these online stores probably once a month and then create their own database to pull comparison results from. Other sites do it real time, bot goes off and retrieves the prices. At least i think that's how it works.

One guy who i was talking to, ran a bunch of price comparison sites, one was called adultdvdshopper.com(looks like he gave up), he told me he had to manually build his database of thousands of adult DVD titles and prices.

I said to him 'you gotta be kidding me. that is insane, there has to be a way with Net technology so you don't have to hire people to manually do this.' he said well since all these stores used different SKU codes it had to be done that way.

I looked at other shopping bot technology and it appeared to me that a good bot could do this without too much manual labor. But what do i know ....i'm not a programmer so i don't know what the limitations and challenges are in doing that kind of web app.


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