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gonzo 08-09-2007 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 791525)
Soooo. Your blogging forums is not for folks to learn how to make money using blogs (now one of the easiest ways for a newb to start in this business)?

There will always be room for newbs in this or any other business that is going to last. You cut off the newbs and you cut off new ideas, new ways of looking at stuff, you become jaded and tunnel vissioned out.

Competition is what makes businesses thrive and grow, it also takes some out, that is how evolution works. If the business does not evolve then it stagnates.

I am not in favor of trying to convert every surfer into a webmaster anymore than I am in favor of turning every webmaster into a programmer (my bailiwick) however, as you know, if asked the question I will try to give an honest answer and help a person along their way. Paying it forward as it were. If they become a better programmer (or webmaster) than me that is my problem not theirs. If they become my competition, so be it, like I said competition forces change, forces me to keep up with what is going on, forces me to think outside the box.

I might not always like it but that is the way the world works.

This post is a :-pearl:

Jace 08-09-2007 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 791525)
Soooo. Your blogging forums is not for folks to learn how to make money using blogs (now one of the easiest ways for a newb to start in this business)?

There will always be room for newbs in this or any other business that is going to last. You cut off the newbs and you cut off new ideas, new ways of looking at stuff, you become jaded and tunnel vissioned out.

Competition is what makes businesses thrive and grow, it also takes some out, that is how evolution works. If the business does not evolve then it stagnates.

I am not in favor of trying to convert every surfer into a webmaster anymore than I am in favor of turning every webmaster into a programmer (my bailiwick) however, as you know, if asked the question I will try to give an honest answer and help a person along their way. Paying it forward as it were. If they become a better programmer (or webmaster) than me that is my problem not theirs. If they become my competition, so be it, like I said competition forces change, forces me to keep up with what is going on, forces me to think outside the box.

I might not always like it but that is the way the world works.

on one hand I love to teach people new things, but on the other hand I see the saturation that is in front of us and cringe

i don't know one tgp guy that hasn't said to me in the past 6 months that his ratios have gone down the toilet

when I first started blogging I could easily get 1:100-200 ratios, now I am lucky to get 1:1000, and that is a GOOD day

it pains me to help newbies, because I know 1 in 5 of them will be the next nastyboards.com owner and be stealing from me in 6 months to make a buck selling dating and cams sites

the business is changing in such a scary way, YES it makes me jaded

as for my blog forum, that is something I haven't really kept up with lately, but am trying to start again

wanna know my reasoning for posting in there, and other forums, again about blogging? because the more traffic I get to my blogging blog, the more I can sell ads to webmaster programs for on there....plain and simple...everything I have been doing lately has a monetary goal, and sometimes that involves doing things that helps newbies out, just the name of the game...in order for me to make money in some of the areas I want to make money in, I have to cater to newbies and idiots...again, just the name of the game

I don't hate newbies, but I sure as hell am weary of them as of recently

then there are guys like rcourt who prove me wrong and go against all the typical newbie stereotypes....so, that at least gives me hope....but the majority of the time I just am sick of it all

I prefer to live in my own world where I work with established figures in the adult industry

Annie 08-09-2007 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 791499)
She tells me this all the time!
Last time I saw her I had to settle for cappuchino for a hot sweet desert.


You know it! ;)

gonzo 08-09-2007 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie (Post 791553)
You know it! ;)

A brother cant get any love.
:1usuck:

Annie 08-09-2007 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 791560)
A brother cant get any love.
:1usuck:

You got sugar that night. From the pie and the cappuchino.;)

gonzo 08-09-2007 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie (Post 791562)
You got sugar that night. From the pie and the cappuchino.;)

Have you moved to Charlotte and work with the rest of those evil girls?

Annie 08-09-2007 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 791564)
Have you moved to Charlotte and work with the rest of those evil girls?

Jim, what are you talking about?:blink:

gonzo 08-09-2007 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie (Post 791567)
Jim, what are you talking about?:blink:

Let me find a picture.

Hell Puppy 08-09-2007 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 791533)
on one hand I love to teach people new things, but on the other hand I see the saturation that is in front of us and cringe

i don't know one tgp guy that hasn't said to me in the past 6 months that his ratios have gone down the toilet

when I first started blogging I could easily get 1:100-200 ratios, now I am lucky to get 1:1000, and that is a GOOD day

it pains me to help newbies, because I know 1 in 5 of them will be the next nastyboards.com owner and be stealing from me in 6 months to make a buck selling dating and cams sites

the business is changing in such a scary way, YES it makes me jaded

as for my blog forum, that is something I haven't really kept up with lately, but am trying to start again

wanna know my reasoning for posting in there, and other forums, again about blogging? because the more traffic I get to my blogging blog, the more I can sell ads to webmaster programs for on there....plain and simple...everything I have been doing lately has a monetary goal, and sometimes that involves doing things that helps newbies out, just the name of the game...in order for me to make money in some of the areas I want to make money in, I have to cater to newbies and idiots...again, just the name of the game

I don't hate newbies, but I sure as hell am weary of them as of recently

then there are guys like rcourt who prove me wrong and go against all the typical newbie stereotypes....so, that at least gives me hope....but the majority of the time I just am sick of it all

I prefer to live in my own world where I work with established figures in the adult industry

As for the board...i'd say if it primarily sticks to it's motto "the business of porn", it'll be fine. is there room for newbs in that? absolutely. is there room for curious surfers? well, i think gonzo has some better folders for that, but as long as they aren't disruptive having the point of view of our "customers" is definitely also part of the "business".

i think scarecrow started down a bad path by almost coming across as a stalker with the carly obsession and "how do i meet the girls" type stuff. little bit of a creep vibe there. anything that is threatening to the ladies of our industry, i have an issue with.

teaching newbs....

i'll teach them what is known by most of the adult community already. i wont teach anyone anything that is a competitive advantage for me.

Rcourt64 08-09-2007 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 791501)
I can only assume you are speaking about me since there are no longer any partners involved with this board. God knows Ive stirred way more than my share of piss but Im not sure who you think Ive ran off.

This isnt a sarcastic message either . . . could you clarify who and what your talking about?

Partners? I never even used that word. And no, it was not you I spoke with, So you assume wrong.
And as for the term "ran off" well maybe that phrase was a bit harsh.
If you really need me to clarify to you what I'm talking about? then you have a piss poor memory GonZo :(

spazlabz 08-09-2007 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 791499)
She tells me this all the time!
Last time I saw her I had to settle for cappuchino for a hot sweet desert.

Bummer a tease? guess I can put off that trip again LOL :yowsa:


spaz

spazlabz 08-09-2007 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 791533)
then there are guys like rcourt who prove me wrong and go against all the typical newbie stereotypes....so, that at least gives me hope....but the majority of the time I just am sick of it all

Don't let rcourt fool you bro... he's no true newbie to the biz, just in the diversification end of it. :)


spaz

spazlabz 08-09-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rcourt64 (Post 791472)
I recently spoke with one of the Oprano Elders over the phone a few days ago, and we spoke a bit about Oprano for a few.
And he said something that really left me thinking for awhile? They're comments went something along the line of:
"They said Oprano would be different once the elders where gone. That no more busting anyones chops anymore,
whether it was a surfmaster or a webmaster."
I'm not gonna say who said it, if they want they can speak for them selfs. I'm just using it as an example. :)

But I really don't see much of a change since the elders are gone. I mean ya sure the elders that stayed at Oprano stiil ragg, knock and screw with each others, Thats all great and funny :clapping: I truly get a kick out of messing on the elders that are left also.
But the way Scarie Crowie Guy and a few others that joined here have been treated? :(
Well I guess every new member is going to have to go thru some sort of explanation, reason and ragging why they're here. But when they give a true and sincere reason why they joined. And its not to someones agreement here at Oprano. Then they get all sorts of hell till they are vanished or ran off?
This is truly some immature and poor ass behavior from a bunch of so called Oprano Professionals Board Members.
And I just want to take this moment to say, GREAT WORK GUYS. :okthumb: Danggg I just love it at Oprano :wnw:

Am I the one you spoke with on the phone bro? Because I know we have had a few conversations. And I was one of the ones yelling the loudest here about how we had to treat people with respect and help newbies out and blah blah blah. Yes sometimes the old guard just made me disgusted and I would vacate the board for extended periods of time. But I also have friends here that I ONLY see here. Since I value their views on things and enjoy the banter I always came back.

But the scarecrow issue has me kind of torn. It makes me look like a hypocrite if I don't help the guy out but his behavior and demeanor in the first few days here bothered me so I have tried to stay out of it. While I am sure almost everyone here will answer intelligent questions from webmasters of all experience i just don't like this guy. I am sorry and know that is harsh but Oprano is still a proving ground of sorts and you just can't clip it's balls completely off.

That's just my opinion of course. And if I want a surfers opinion and insight I will just check out Snowman's forums... but it looks dead there. I wonder if I should start posting there as well...



spaz

Hammer 08-09-2007 11:17 AM

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Rcourt, what in the world are you talking about? Other than Rhetorical's stalking of Trisha, the only person I've seen roughed up a bit lately is Skarecrow and he's not a webmaster, nor a surfmaster, he's just a plain old surfer that has no business being here. There are plenty of fan and surfer boards out there, we don't need to put up with them here.

I'll tell you one thing. If it gets to the point that Oprano decides to start courting surfers, you can color me gone. I don't mind spending a few minutes messing around once in a while, but for me, there's way too much work to do to spend time fucking around on a message board. When I have free time, I spend it with my family, reading a book, exercising, or any number of things that are far more enjoyable than sifting through a bunch of horse shit looking for a decent thread to post in.

If a surfer stumbles in once in a while, it's no big deal and Skarecrow was treated just fine until he started looking like a stalker and acting like a moron.

Annie 08-09-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 791613)
Bummer a tease? guess I can put off that trip again LOL :yowsa:


spaz


Me a tease? No. Never. ;)

ScreaM 08-09-2007 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Annie (Post 791710)
Me a tease? No. Never. ;)

I want to see a pic of you. :)

softball 08-09-2007 05:57 PM

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"Other than Rhetorical's stalking of Trisha"

Sorry, Hammer, but this classic "stalking" accusation does not even come close. Even by definition, but you can look that up. Just because some web girl gets her knickers in a twist, gets a bunch of hound dogs pounding her drum, for no reason. Like no insult. No stalking. Nada. Zip. Zero. That was Sabby's constant chant. It is usually girls who do this. You know fire insults from the hip and duck and dive and get the horny toads backing her up because she will flash her ass or tits. Just because I think all of the above is totally unprofessional behaviour (unless of course you are a customer or surfmaster) does not a stalker make. If you read the threads (guess the tense) it will become plain. Just tossing shit around willy nilly is pure GFY, traffic rat gossip mongering. I am always in shock and awe how some girl can walk into a board of professionals and walk all across their tongues. Kind of like someone said earlier, just having them type something to you seems to be kind of like sort of as good as having sex. I think this is demeaning to all involved. But hey, that is just my humble opinion.
You can all proceed as usuall now, and maybe she will post some more titty pics.

Rcourt64 08-09-2007 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 791730)
"Other than Rhetorical's stalking of Trisha"

Sorry, Hammer, but this classic "stalking" accusation does not even come close. Even by definition, but you can look that up. Just because some web girl gets her knickers in a twist, gets a bunch of hound dogs pounding her drum, for no reason. Like no insult. No stalking. Nada. Zip. Zero. That was Sabby's constant chant. It is usually girls who do this. You know fire insults from the hip and duck and dive and get the horny toads backing her up because she will flash her ass or tits. Just because I think all of the above is totally unprofessional behaviour (unless of course you are a customer or surfmaster) does not a stalker make. If you read the threads (guess the tense) it will become plain. Just tossing shit around willy nilly is pure GFY, traffic rat gossip mongering. I am always in shock and awe how some girl can walk into a board of professionals and walk all across their tongues. Kind of like someone said earlier, just having them type something to you seems to be kind of like sort of as good as having sex. I think this is demeaning to all involved. But hey, that is just my humble opinion.
You can all proceed as usuall now, and maybe she will post some more titty pics.

You're jealous? ain't ya? It's beginning to show now, I see this.
This is all about a pretty hot babe like Trisha that got a shit load of attention here, and it eats you up inside, huh? You just can't stand it.

Who the fuck gives a shit if all these web masters get they're rocks off complimenting a beautiful women who's got the personality of a fun loving bubbly babe blond.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the way Trisha resurfaced here @ Oprano, and there was nothing wrong with all the attention she received here either.
But you felt "left out" maybe? You seem to show this inferior jealousy when it comes to the opposite sex?
Is that why you felt the need to "compete" against Trisha thread by starting your own at the same time?
Maybe you think this makes you feel like the superior macho?

Tell me Rhetorical?
Did Sabby make you feel small??? inferior maybe???
Attachment 220
Is it that your tired of hearing your models tell you that ur pee-pee is small?

whatever it may be...
...it's alright bro, :stroke: I know the feeling :okthumb: I also have a hard time even finding my dick under all this gut.
I think if maybe you went to see Dianna Vesta she should be able to help you with your problems rhetorical.
Whatever this hate you have towards other girls, you need to let it go man.

softball 08-09-2007 07:37 PM

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"You're jealous? ain't ya? It's beginning to show now, I see this."
You are so right. Now I feel bad.
As for your gut? Well, now I am sure you are proud of that. I bet you wear slip on shoes.

Rcourt64 08-09-2007 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 791750)
"You're jealous? ain't ya? It's beginning to show now, I see this."
You are so right. Now I feel bad.
As for your gut? Well, now I am sure you are proud of that. I bet you wear slip on shoes.

Thats it? you mimic what I said?
This is the best I get outta the Big Rhetorical?
Hmmm? :scratchin
It's alright I guess, the truth hurts I understand bro.
You need to meditate and think. We understand rhetorical :okthumb:
And dont forget to call Dianna, I'm sure she can help. ;)

softball 08-09-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rcourt64 (Post 791752)
Thats it? you mimic what I said?
This is the best I get outta the Big Rhetorical?
Hmmm? :scratchin
It's alright I guess, the truth hurts I understand bro.
You need to meditate and think. We understand rhetorical :okthumb:
And dont forget to call Dianna, I'm sure she can help. ;)

Yup. That's all she wrote.

Rcourt64 08-09-2007 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 791755)
Yup. That's all she wrote.

I thought you was better that this rhetorical :huh:

softball 08-09-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rcourt64 (Post 791758)
I thought you was better that this rhetorical :huh:

you were wrong.

Hammer 08-09-2007 08:47 PM

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The only reason I'm doing it is because I know it gets your goat.

softball 08-09-2007 08:55 PM

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WTF is an elder anyway? Is that like a wizard or just an old fart seeing the world from a tour bus?

Forest 08-09-2007 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 791083)
Hey dont be dissing my ex fiance!

gonzo has never quite gotten over her

evertime i see him he brings her up

softball 08-09-2007 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 791766)
The only reason I'm doing it is because I know it gets your goat.

Nah, it just burns my ass. But he always gets that way when I forget to give him fresh hay.

Forest 08-09-2007 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelleehale (Post 791240)
Who is actually posting less and getting laid more?

Im am!!!!!

I just got laid

=)

Forest 08-09-2007 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 791473)
You will NEVER see me rag a webmaster, elder or newcomer to this or any board .

now wheres the fun in that?

Rcourt64 08-09-2007 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 791767)
WTF is an elder anyway? Is that like a wizard or just an old fart seeing the world from a tour bus?

YOU are..,
Hammer is, so is Serge, HP, Spaz, Sarettah, JR, Forest, Bishop, Nick, Gonzo, and a shit load more, the list is long to name them all. They are the ones who are Oprano Elders, the ones who have experienced and have justification to top the Adult Industry with there knowledge and history. The has-been goldrushers and a few that came later. Thats an Elder.

Jace 08-09-2007 10:50 PM

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http://www.justjace.com/tmp/huh.jpg

sarettah 08-09-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rcourt64 (Post 791773)
YOU are..,
Hammer is, so is Serge, HP, Spaz, Sarettah, JR, Forest, Bishop, Nick, Gonzo, and a shit load more, the list is long to name them all. They are the ones who are Oprano Elders, the ones who have experienced and have justification to top the Adult Industry with there knowledge and history. The has-been goldrushers and a few that came later. Thats an Elder.



umm. On Oprano I have been here a while. But please, let's keep the record straight. Any real money I made in adult was an employee for a very large adult internet presence between 1999 and 2001. At that time I did not even know how to code html. I was purely doing the processing.

I have not made shit on the net (yet???) and should never be included in a list of those with history. Knowledge I have plenty of, lots and lots of knowledge. The wherewithall to put any of that knowledge to use is what I lack. I have been floundering since day one of my attempts at webmastering and my attempts to provide programming to this industry as an independent are not much better. So, while I am extremely flattered to be included in that list I do not deserve it and do not feel that I have ever made any claim that would put me on that list.

I am newbier than most newbies when it comes to figuring out how to turn a dime in this biz.

I have stated it many times but will once again. I am a nobody in this biz, hell I don't even qualify to be a Fat Fucking Nobody. I am DFN4life :hmm:

spazlabz 08-09-2007 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rcourt64 (Post 791773)
YOU are..,
Hammer is, so is Serge, HP, Spaz, Sarettah, JR, Forest, Bishop, Nick, Gonzo, and a shit load more, the list is long to name them all. They are the ones who are Oprano Elders, the ones who have experienced and have justification to top the Adult Industry with there knowledge and history. The has-been goldrushers and a few that came later. Thats an Elder.

You can remove me from that list as well. While I have been on Oprano for a few years the names in that list have a lot more time here then I do. And Sarettah was correct, he has a lot of time in here. :)


spaz

Hammer 08-09-2007 11:21 PM

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If we're talking about chronological age, I'm definitely the elder of most of the people that post here. Whether or not that's something to be proud of is questionable.

Buckwheat 08-09-2007 11:51 PM

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i knowed a girl named elder once . . . She had big ole tities and a pertty ass the size of wisconsin

softball 08-10-2007 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 791801)

There is a character that I would bet would put your income to shame and all on her own would certainly equal whatever it is that you earn. You have no idea of what you post. Jace, stop being a moron and act like a professional. Its guys like you that actually believe Arnie is the Terminator. Consider yourself professionally punked.


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