Wow, Sarettah, I looked at your long preaching posts and I moved on. Now I know why people bitch at me when I run at the mouth. I want short posts at 2 a.m. :yowsa:

Squirt, give 'em hell! I don't agree with everything you are saying, but I understand your frustration. What you are doing to fight Acacia is appreciated. Please don't throw in the towel because a few old-time losers are doing nothing. There are far more new webmasters who are sitting on their asses ignoring the problems.

Take a break and play with your son and your dog, and return to fight the battle. :inlove:

Whats an LCN ?

some people make a long post and its always worth reading
others make a long post and its always worth skipping



Squirt, you should always take confucy's advise :headwall:

Commonly used DOJ (US Department of Justice / FBI) law enforcement term for the american mafia / organized crime families. LCN = La Cosa Nostra. "This thing of ours"

I personally don´t care how long you have been in the industry - its what kind of business you run that I care about, and how we can profit from it B)

Which genre do you fall into?
Youve told us all that you were hre at the begining of time yet you cant even post a clickable signature...so that dont make you a webmster...new or old?

Good point!

The next question will be... If future goverments, and banks makes it alot more risky and expensive - will that make things reverse?

p.s. there are no leaders in the adult on line entertainment industry
(but a lot of followers) - there are some big companies but still no leaders

It's been said before but ...... you can't get 12 webmasters/company owners to agree on where to go to dinner much less agree on doing anything else

To think there is any type of "community" in the adult on line entertainment industry is an illusion

We all tend our own gardens

good post and you definatelly have a point

interesting sig...[/b][/quote]
not really...I sold house and sit on over mil in cash. I asked Jim to call me...did he?

nope...

Ron Levi used to be a leader...NOBODY replaced him
;-(

In the few last years there has been lack of situations where the adult industry needed or created a leader. Most of the attacks on the adult industry has been target at individual companies for pushing the limits.

I´m sure there are plenty of individuals today who could become great leaders for our industry, but until the situation arrives, where they are forced into a battle for the whole industry, then everyone will keep minding their own business.



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One thing you'd be hard pressed to dispute is that a lot of the "old timers" put a LOT of money in other people's pockets. Granted, they were also putting a chunk of change in their own in the process :awinky: but I never heard affiliates in the 90's complain about programs that were pushing the envelope as long as the $$$ was being shared with them. :okthumb:

Good, they weren't meant for you anyway....

Good, they weren't meant for you anyway....[/b][/quote]
:wnw:

Ron Levi used to be a leader...NOBODY replaced him
;-([/b][/quote]
While I admired R_n's business acumen I never saw him as a leader

but that may just be a personal thing, not someone I'd emulate on some levels

While I admired R_n's business acumen I never saw him as a leader

but that may just be a personal thing, not someone I'd emulate on some levels[/b][/quote]
he was...LOTS of innovations in thei industry, copied by others, came from him...he LEAD the industry in innovations

Are we going to go over who started the first click thru program ? :awinky:


I understand what you're saying and agree about leading in development so to speak

Honey, you don't need to worry ... Mitnik wasn't mentioned, social engineering wasn't mentioned, and there were three and four syllable words in the post, so it's a good thing you avoided it.

thats what was going for LOL


"""Yeah, I was the kid...it got so that every pissant prairie punk who thought he could shoot a gun would ride into town to try out the Waco Kid.
I must've killed more men than Cecil B Demille.
Got pretty gritty.
I started to hear the word draw in my sleep.
Then one day, I was just walking down the street, and I heard a voice behind me say, "Reach for it Mister!" I spun around and there I was face to face with a six-year-old kid.
Well I just threw my guns down and walked away....little bastard shot me in the ass!! So I limped to the nearest saloon, crawled into a whiskey bottle, and I've been there ever since.""""

;-))))

I would beg to differ. Compared to other online industries such as the gaming with practically no support from your peers, I think the porn industry has a very strong community (or communities would be a better word).

I never tire of posting these quotes.. especially for you "Old Scrotch" :devil:

Bashir: So of the stories you told me, which ones were true?
Garak: My dear doctor, all of them were true.
Bashir: What about the lies?
Garak: Especially the lies.
The Wire

and

(Bashir tells the story of the boy who cried "Wolf")
Bashir: If you lie all the time, no one is going to believe you, even when you're telling the truth.
Garak: Are you sure that's the point, Doctor?
Bashir: Of course. What else would it be?
Garak: That you should never tell the same lie twice.
Improbable Cause

and

Garak: The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination.
Improbable Cause

and

Odo: You'd shoot a man in the back?
Garak: It's the safest way, isn't it?
Call to Arms



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I would beg to differ. Compared to other online industries such as the gaming with practically no support from your peers, I think the porn industry has a very strong community (or communities would be a better word).[/b][/quote]
true

Hahaha, who wants to lead this motley crew out of the frying pan and into the fire?

The very reason this business makes money is the fact that there is no formalized structure and the participants, especially the successful ones, have gone and done things their own way.

To lead in this business is to set yourself up with a very big bullseye in a most uncomfortable place. Regardless of whether you've really done anything wrong or not. Case in point would be the FTC and Maxcash -- no wrongdoing at the end of it all but the damage to the business was done even though.

It's very important how long you've been in this business, if for no other reason than those with longevity have seen more of what works and what doesn't and can tailor their business accordingly.

Gonzo, I was having computer problems. I need a new one. Serge helps me with my avatars & banners, so don't you worry about me.

PornoDog Person, you know nothing about me. Everything I did was thought out and calculated. If you don't understand, that is your problem. Go jerk off and forget I exist. :gbounce:

Sarettah, if you weren't including me in your diatribe, then you should have been. You should be speaking to each and every webmaster. Most are like PornDog and must be spoon fed with short word bytes. :D

He would have spoke to you but your not a webmaster...your Lew Payne's errand girl.

Hey Gonzo Bonzo, what's a female supposed to do! We are taught from an early age how to give good head and run errands. It's a cruel CRUEL world! :rokk:

I just finished reading a book called "A Fugitive Crosses his Tracks" - it has something called the "The Law of Jante":

- Don't think that you are something special
- Don't think that you are of the same standing as us
- Don't think that you are smarter than us
- Don't think you are better than us
- Don't think you know more than us
- Don't think you are more important than us
- Don't think you you have skills for anything
- Don't laugh at us
- Don't think anyone likes you
- Don't think you can teach us anything

Is there any truth in this law - in the adult industry?

Squirt you make some good points, there are some new guys who are up and commers and are doing things well. There are also a bunch of old timers who have become nothing but scrubs. Infact, I am seeing more and more old schoolers acting more like cockholsters.

To me its not about being in the busniess for 8 years, but rather dealing with people who have been around for a LEAST a year. Once they make it past a year, working full time, people tend to understand the business.

I prefer to work with people I know, who have been around, or at least is known or dealt with someone else I respect.

It is like that in all of life.... not just this biz.

The rest of us thought it, and you said it. :)

Every man's nightmare is a closet lesbian man hater trying to give head.
Teeth across the foreskin is much more worse than fingernails across the blackboard.

Peaches, you are so pathetic. What in the fuck have you done to make the porn industry a better place? You talk about hating men. You talk about your weight gain. You talk about your log cabin. You talk about your son who is all grown up but still lives at home and pisses you off. You sit on that fat ass of yours and attack me when you could be on match.com looking for a lover girlfriend. Take your money and go to a diet clinic. Get some lipo. WORK OUT and get in shape. When you do all these things, then come back and give me advice. :nyanya:

I see its Peaches turn in the barrell.

KK & Carrie your next in the rotation!

Where's that kinder holiday Jackie we were supposed to see?
I guess she got ill trying to figure out how to make that banner clickable.

She keeps thinking that if she goes from female to female and attacks them regarding things she's obviously clueless about, she'll eventually hit on one that gives a crap about what she thinks. :okthumb:

From what I can, Lee is the only person who can stand her, on or off the internet. :(

Darcy told her how to make her banner clickable and gave her the exact code. I wonder if Lew told her he didn't want his program associated with her. :unsure:

Who really cares about this Cuntfucy person? I mean beside bringing pageviews to a thread, then her being makes no difference?

Remember the kid in school who was a real jerk but thought he was a player? Part of you would want to feel bad for him that he was such a total loser, but he was so arrogant, that you just sat back and watched him make a fool out himself. That's confucy. :P

Half the fun of C is to get her all riled up and watch her blow her top. :okthumb: She's merely here for our entertainment. She's never done business with anyone here and no one's ever met her, so it's obvious she has nothing to do with this industry. She has even admitted that she posts on porn boards because non-adult boards are less tolerant and won't let her "spread the word" about Kevin Mitnick. :unsure:

I live in the woods so we don't get many traveling comedians to do shows up here. Watching her make things up in an attempt to attack people is pure entertainment for me. :yowsa:

It was not a diatribe. It was a calm reasoned reply to Squirts original post.

Honey, I not only don't know anything about you, I don't WANT to know anything about you. The degree to which you are annoying is only exceeded by the degree to which you are irrelevant.

You are the red-white-and-blue flags in front of a used car dealership - a cheap gimmick to generate some attention (page views).

Ordinarilly I let your rants slide by - I have a certain empathy for the emotionally disturbed, and try not to let them get under my skin. I guess I'm just having a very bad day - it happens at my age. I'm sure you remember that.

I see its Peaches turn in the barrell.

KK & Carrie your next in the rotation!

Where's that kinder holiday Jackie we were supposed to see?
I guess she got ill trying to figure out how to make that banner clickable.[/b][/quote]
I held out in that barrel for nearly two years - I'm taking a break.

I don't care what any of you say, those are two redeeming qualities if ever I saw some :yowsa:

spaz