Mike Ai:

I would appreciate it very much if you could forward your email address to me at the email on this post. I didn't wanna ask any of our mutual friends for it. I wanted to ask you personally for it...

Thanks in advance...

FreeXXX
FreeXXX Oprano.com

Serge,

you can fuck with NON Believers until the Moment we go On Air!!!

Then it is Time to CONVERT their Asses!!!!!!!
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) By FAR the best live feed on the net..

Are you kidding Confusedey?? I love you posting here!! I want you to be as opionated as can be, and of course be able to back your opinions up!!

As I said before, I may not agree with all of your opinions ( though I do agree with some), I definately respect you for having them.

There are too many ass kissers in this business as it is.

However, if you want to get even more respect come out from being anon. See if you are anon it allows you to send out shots at people, without opening yourself up to shots in return.

So I guess you have 1 ball... maybe soon you will get a second, and maybe then they will get brass plated.
Mike AI The Affiliate Program that PAYS!

KK,
I never claimed to be Mr. Perfect,
my memory wheels slip,
and YES, I apologise to Sammi for being forgetfull.
Serge Fresh Video Streams

Bad Serge, very bad.

You forgot the woman that's been around a long time and done very well --

SAMMI!!!!
KK 65% Partnerships!

Forest,
may I fuck with non-believers first?
;-)))

BTW, here is one sad news:
we couldn't reach agreement with Dig and decided to go our separate ways...
;-(((

Dig,
I wish you best of luck in your new endevour and be delighted to see you succeed,
and I know you wish us the same.
Serge The Affiliate Program that PAYS!

May the PITH be WITH u
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Cooooolllll Thanx Oprano!!!!

Serge,

I have talked to several people who cant believe WE are doing a radio show Together!

With our Combined Big Mouths and all the hottes topics we are Sure to be the Hit Parade!!!
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Cooooolllll Thanx Oprano!!!!

And pith is what we're all about, Mutt! ;)
Edd (Sneaky Ninja Webmaster) Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

test
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-)) 65% Partnerships!

Is it just me or is it warm in here?

roasting slowly,
The Dark One (Prince of Dimmness) 65% Partnerships!

Forest,
Serge and... Radio show
will be the show EVERYBODY care about.

I already contacted
fantasywoman@confucy.com for an opening salvo of
"Why Newbie Female Webmistresses Should be left alone to Die in Peace"


Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-)) Fresh Video Streams

No, my time is very precious to waste on radio shows nobody gives a fuck about....
___________________________________

now that's PITHY!!!
mutt The Affiliate Program that PAYS!

Serge,

That will read the Serge and ???
Show soon!!!!!

and wait till you see the video Idea I have come up with for Claudias Show!
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Cooooolllll Thanx Oprano!!!!

Sharpie - It's good to see you over here:-) Maybe we can talk about the auction on MaxCashLive tonight???



#### MAXCASHLIVE TONIGHT! ####
Thursday August 09, 2001


TIME: 8-10PM Eastern (5-7PM pacific)
http://www.maxcashlive.com

TOPIC: CyberNetExpo & Newbie Night
GUESTS:
Sharpie from http://www.cybernetexpo.com

Tonight Sharpie will talk about the events going on at CyberNetExpo in Miami later this month. Included will be the first Auction for Charity held at CyberNetExpo.
Additionally, we continue our Regular Newbie Night festivities! The review topic for tonight is text links... Who has the best, what works, and does placement matter?? Should they be different on an AVS site vs. a TGP site? Find out tonight!!

Be sure to tune in at http://www.maxcashlive.com . You can log in our chat via our Java interface or IRC at:
server: forums.maxcash.com
port: 7000
room: #maxcashlive

See you at 8PM Eastern Time (5pm Pacific)
sharky Tonight is Newbie Night!!!

Slav,

Our Live Fat Pornstars Feed will come out as soon as Tukman gets my servers set up ; ) TUKMAN where are you : )


KoKo CleanBrowser.com get exit credits to iSuperCharger.com

fucking ICQ, it lits up again....

CORRECTION FOR CONFUCY:

and more women like
CJ,
RRRRed
Dokk,
KISS,
LeeNoga,
and few more

Serge Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

Hey Serge,

You leave my Eggos out of this! What I have for breakfast is my own business. LOL!

Too much cold medicine,
Don
Ounique 100 Photosets for $990!!!

Yes, it's true, I was not allowed anywhere near the Special Olympics typing team ;))))


SykkBoy Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp dick

I really couldn't care less WHY the Industry is so generous.
*****************************

Fay,
I wish I could say the same,
but I made my money by learning what makes people tick and for me WHY is more important than WHAT people do...
Serge Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

Serge, did you hear Holly and Aly on the radio?
*****************

No, my time is very precious to waste on radio shows nobody gives a fuck about....
Serge Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

Sharpie, I agree...

I'm more inclined to donate time than money...anyone can write a check, but how many really dig in and help out with time. During the holidays I can usually be spotted at the shelters (not scoring free turkey ;))) and it started with a resteraunt I worked at...we would close the shop and all go down and assist in the cooking of the meals.

I'm also big on Special Olympics and for several years was a bowling and softball coach for Special Olypics. Again, this was a donation of time, not money.

My reasons for doing it was to give back, not because everyone would think I was this great guy or because I might get a better seat in heaven (I'm a non-believer, so hard to fathom people doing it for that reason ;)).
SykkBoy Two fat lazy goths and a couple vampire chicks

We need lots more female webmasters with MONEY & POWER! Phooey on men and their gigantic.......egos!
confucy
*************

I Agree. We need more KK's
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-)) 65% Partnerships!

You made very good money from this very rich client
Client PERCEIVED maybe others could have provided your service
He felt entitled to a "little more"
*********************

Vick,
this very very very rich client made good money thanks to me as well,
as I was the only signmaker he could find when he was sending sketches to perspective buyers
who was able to make signs in Russian!

yes, I made dough, lots of it thanks to his submarines,
but....he made lots of dough selling those submarines with my signs in russian:
Pull Handle To Enter.

I believe we were EVEN!
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-)) 65% Partnerships!

I don't know how much, if any - this discussion has to do with the Webmasters against Child Abuse Auction. But, I have my theories, like everyone else, BUT - I really couldn't care less WHY the Industry is so generous. I just know that they are.

I very much believe in active participation in preventing child abuse. Child abuse is the root of so many of our countries problems, with Drugs & crime. These kids are our future. We chose this particliar charity for several reason. One is that it in Nationwide in its activities. There may be be a center in your city??

Many of the more well known charities will not take money from Adult Webmasters. Can you believe that? No way am I going to fake who we are - just to give to their charity. This particuliar charity is made of of business people throughout the country, and they didn't care - as long as we were not fronting for illegial activities. The organization is sound, the money is not all eaten up with their saleries, and it goes to and does good on the grass roots level. It is a good cause - those who want to be involved by donating items or bidding on those items, may do so. Those who have other things that they do - that fine... No pressure - no problem.

Of course - those who actually give of their time - give the most precious gift of all. I am a big fan of Big Brothers & Sisters - Now there is where the action is!

Sharpie Webmasters against Child Abuse

Koko, so when are you going to release that FAT live feed?
Fat sites need it.
Lensman will buy it :)


Slavdogg 65% Partnerships!

I'm by all means not rich but I do share what I have with whom I choose when I choose.
RRRED
***********

RRRED,
I was always saying
VERY EXACT WORDS ....about my body
and this resulted in 4 divorces....

I don't think the masses will ever understand us....
;-))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-)) 65% Partnerships!

"Charity should always be done anon." Mike AI

WELL, WELL! There is a place for ANON's after all, huh Mike!

You, Levi, and Brujah would accept my ANON charitable contributions, but not my *chatroom/board* opinions. I think I understand the rules of the game, now.

Lee, I have often wondered why you never bought that Cadillac that you like so much. Now I understand. Family comes first. You have a big heart, Lew Noga!

Serge, did you hear Holly and Aly on the radio? They did fine. You know why? Because JoeE was only there for a few minutes. With him gone, the ladies did a great job. We need lots more female webmasters with MONEY & POWER! Phooey on men and their gigantic.......egos!
confucy Kick Ass, Lee Babe!

Gawd, I have to agree
with Brujah over at
Pond--I thought the
email was a forged
header, perhaps Jim
should have included
it into a CE newsletter.

But we know now it
was a legitimate FYI
"Please Help" from the
heart, depite the impersonal
point and click.

Judges ranked this Olympic dive as:

10 - For The Charitable Cause
10 - For compassionate effort made
0 - Method of notification of need

Jim, perhaps donating "X" amount of every signup would make the whole community feel a part, just my thoughts.
Lee Noga (Serge is my secret Lesbian Lover!!!!!) Falcon Foto- 29 new discs, say my name get 50% off at checkout

"I had a very, very, very rich client,nuclear submarine salesman"

Don't know the particulars to the business arrangement but possibly
You made very good money from this very rich client
Client PERCEIVED maybe others could have provided your service
He felt entitled to a "little more"
You may have felt "Gift of Obligation"
Would explain his hands on approach

Vick Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

sorry, wrong Jim,
that was Jim Esposito who was looking,
not Jim CE, but we'll be able to help ALL
Jims,
Jerries,
Lindas,
Pauls
who are looking for a job and need a good employment
Serge The Affiliate Program that PAYS!

Charities are great but ridicule for not taking part in any particular function is totally disgusting. Sometimes donating time or items rather than cash with a company logo behind it will come back to a person in a positive way much more than anything else. I'm by all means not rich but I do share what I have with whom I choose when I choose.
RRRED and Your chicks 4free

hmmm.....
as soon as I posted my ICQ lit like a xmas tree....

Jim, is that true that you are looking for a new job?

I might be able to help,
our next project is to open website which puts employers and webmasters together,
something similar to what we do
in non-adult world at
http://mc5.com
for over a year now...
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-)) Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

The part I don’t understand about you is, why did you find the need to say anything at all?
**************************

Jim, you are my friend but.....

do you really believe that one should keep his mouth shut about things one believes is important????

what kind of shit is that?

I think working for CE and seeing Lee go in front of you,
made you see a different kind of light....

very sad, indeed...
Serge money for nothing....

Lens,
I like your new banners...

may I use them for decoration purposes?
Serge money for nothing....

No, JohnIP,
not at all!!!
"that was a story, of a lovely lady,
who is raising ...."
;-)))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-)) Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

"I had a very, very, very rich client,nuclear submarine salesman"

Serge this isnt the story about sellin the nuke missles for pennies on the $$ again is it;)))

JohnIP Charity begins in the heart.....

i can only speak for me,
having lost a child,
being blessed with the daughter i have,
makes me biased .. !!!!

;-))
dokk The Webmaster Calendar
Thu, 09 Aug 2001 11:01:48 - IP: 198.78.108.11 - Post # 9406
---------------------------------

Dokk.... Very well put.. and I share the same feelings.


sharky MaxCashLive Tonight!!

Ego?? What is that?

;-)
Mike AI
*************

Ego is something one has with either
huge dick or very small dick,
lots of money or total lack of it,
it's something which is easir to notice in the extreme conditions, rahter than in the middle of the road
;-))
Serge 65% Partnerships!

Millionaires send their
chaaaarrggeee!
to the masses just to see how much pull they have!

Will XYZ donate without I yell at him?
Does he respect me?
Is he scared of me and possible loss of my business?
Does ABC percive me aa a Persona he won't like to upset with refusal?

Than one measures the overall "respect" by total collected,
easy enough measure to follow.

That would explain it all and all the missing answers I had over the years....

that would also expalin why those who refuse to give and voice their opinions in public are immedatelly crushed.

ahhhh....what would I do without people on this board???

I'd NEVER see the light....
Serge Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

Ego?? What is that?

;-)
Mike AI 65% Partnerships!

something else came in ICQ to suggest the reason which explains a great deal about charities in this business:
EGO!!!!

that is it!!!!
EGO is a fucking cement which holds all the stones we previously discussed!
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-)) 65% Partnerships!

Tough crowd today!

Coffee is inducing convulsions at this point. I better stop sippin!

Swift 3D yummi yummi mini app:P
ALIEN SINCITY

charity does begin at home. And then it goes to 'close to home'....... there are countless people and causes right here in my and your very own backyards to help out.
Reaching out to people on the Net thousands of miles away would be a last resort for me.

Enough with summer and this freakin heat and humidity.......BRING ON AUTUMN DAMMIT!!!
mutt Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

WOO HOO!!

It's cloudy and even a slight breeze here today and a possibility of showers later tongiht!! YIPPEE!!! Today it's only in the upper 80's with a humidity index that leaves it in the mid 90's!! ;))





TheEnforcer Making Bank- shouldn't you be Making Bank??

Lensman, congrats on the new promotion, I like the cap of 200 in the car "pool" before a draw!

I wonder if webmasters worry about luxury taxes?

Can the webmasters take cash instead of the wheels?

Great promo, you rock Lens :-))
Lee Noga (Serge is my secret Lesbian Lover!!!!!) Falcon Foto- 29 new discs, say my name get 50% off at checkout

Anyone have the url of the lawyers in antigua who setup offshore companies? I think flash cash promoted them a few years back but now I see no links on flashcash.com.
Fred The Affiliate Program that PAYS!

Nick, will do.


Lensman Adult.com is giving away 3 new cars - make just 20 sales and you odds are 1:200!

Rox, not really,
sometimes the abyss from the bottom of the soul manefest itself for others to deal with.
Serge Fresh Video Streams

Serge, I hear you. But that's the great thing about souls, they're no one's business but those whose bodies they inhabit!
Rox (h*OB*biest)

Can I pretty, pretty please have a tagline in green? ;-)
Rox (h*OB*biest)

Rox,
all I care to say is that
I wouldn't be interested to glimpse at the bottom of the souls of the leading charity drum beaters connected to this or any other "not very much kosher" industry.

"When you look at the abyss,
abyss is staring back at you..."

I have no problems looking at the bottom of the soul of Warren Buffet nad his charitable activities.
Serge 65% Partnerships!

Way to go Vick!

I throw every thing I make
at keeping my lovers Mom
in hospice at the house.
Paying for 24/7 round the
clock nurse is too rich for
my blood, but my priorities
are family, I can relate Vick.

She was supposed to live less
than a week Aug 2000, and she
is still with us.

Ya know what its like living
day by day, wondering if today
is the day?? Nursing homes are
great, you don't have to see
the decline and slides, you
can go away knowing its somebody
elses problem, you can blow your
money on yourself because its a
set fee for a nursing home/hospital.

Yup, charity is at home. Nick, you wanted to see my greatest accomplishment of late, pass this onto Anthony, please.

http://www.ontheropes.com/ropes/images/frances1.jpg

So when we sell OnTheRopes.com, spare the shit remarks, now you know why. I will sell everything I have to keep her going...:-))

I know I PUFF and I suck, but wealth is measured in compassion :-))
Lee Noga (Serge is my secret Lesbian Lover!!!!!) Falcon Foto- 29 new discs, say my name get 50% off at checkout

Hmmmm... i wonder if the Eagles have a good won/loss record at home?? :-)


TheEnforcer MakingBank- shouldn't you be Making Bank?

Dokk posted: "it makes sense to me for person to approach whatever group they do business with to raise monies for charities."

Very true. I've posted pleas for EWF on the webmaster boards from time to time since KK led me to this community, and it's really no different than when I made up flyers and put out coffee cans all around the studio lot when I was a lowly secretary. WolfCat and I spammed our (much smaller and less-"player"-filled in those days) email address books and helped save an animal's life, literally. That's an incredible feeling.

And Serge, maybe you're right and deep down in my soul I'm looking to make up for something. I use many of the same skills to drum up support for the causes I feel strongly about that I learned in our family's business of telemarketing... perhaps I'm atoning for all the poor souls who were subjected to the contest entry boxes, direct mailings and guys we had on the phones selling whatever product or service we pitched ;-)

Timeshares, film certificates, precious metals, LPs, Reagan watches, ad space -- yep I've got a few things to clean up after LOL Phone rooms make one feel so DIRTY
Rox FKA on the phone as "Wanda Cash" - middle initial L for Lotta

Another sad day for mideast peace.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/08/09/mideast/index.html

I have consumed many a pizza's in that same Sabarro. Scarry thought.

As far as charity, most charities waste $ and spend more $ on administration than anything else.
Brad Shaw Deep Oral Girls

http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,31710,00.html

The world is a crazy place!


Mike AI Fresh Video Streams

Vick,
""So have invested time, effort and $ into my nieces and nephews
And now my son""

perfect :))

Ensuring one's own house is in order.

On FM's tendency to yell,I'll shutup asI have been reminded those who live in glass houses shouldn't heave bricks.;))
Nick Shit,now you get 75%!!!....and we are adding more and more sites...plus I'll give you lots of hits

One p.s. John Hopkins Children Miracle Network
Has no idea who/what Cloud 9 Entertainment is
But they cash the checks ;-)
Vick Time to get to work ;'-)

and I heard 3 mins no interrupted YELL
===========================================

Yeah, no shit! But, its all bark.
If you were not of importance,
you would not rate ear piercing
wisdoms :-))

Holding the phone 12 inches
away does wonder to reduce
chance of hearing loss :-))

Lee Noga (Serge is my secret Lesbian Lover!!!!!) Falcon Foto- 29 new discs, say my name get 50% off at checkout

"NOBODY knows why they left their cities one day and where have they disappeared from the face of the Earth, NOBODY!"

Why ask why? The fact is that we remember them.

I am not gonna try and deprogram the whole issue to everyone. I am no longer a crusader.
I aint got no soap box, I just got a flash 5 thing to create today and a nice cup a coffee to my left:P
ALIEN SINCITY

Another short take on Charities
Belive it was the R.C. foundation
Sent a small donation, got a nice thank you letter a few months later
About 2+ years ago

I make a donation to John Hopkins Children Miracle Network every year
Feel they are a good cause and they have a radio telethon every year here in Baltimore
It makes me feel when I hear the stories
Good marketing - oh yeah!

Also firmly belive charity begins at home
So have invested time, effort and $ into my nieces and nephews
And now my son
Can see the return ;-) in my nieces, they are great young adults
Boys take a little longer, both nephews are nuckleheads (read 18-20 year old males)


Nickatilynx , Not uncouth (pissy)You only speak the truth

Parlez seulement la vérité
Parli soltanto la veritŕ
Fale somente a verdade




Vick Time to get to work ;'-)

Yeah that was a weird e-mail I got from FM.

I will not go into this topic, or else I may damage my sterling reputation of being a nice guy! haha

But I beleive that Nick said it best...

"Charity should always be done anon. "


Mike AI 65% Partnerships!

""and I heard 3 mins no interrupted YELL!""

hahahahahahhahahahaha,easy life!

Try over 1 hour of yelling over a perceived transgression by one of my staff. ;)

When I met him,I saw a cunning, savy,and ruthless businessman who had transferred his success from one field to a new field.

and to clarify,I write the above not as a criticism but as praise.

Why is it we are in a business where we are supposed to be nice to our competition and all be friends together?

One word.Hobbyiests.

I believe in the coming yrs hobbyiests will disappear as the adult net becomes more corporate.The only hobbyiests left will be the lowest denominator hobbyiests that literally couldn't get a job at McDonalds."Celebrity Webmasters" (ie webmasters with no hits,and no clue how to them,let alone move them) will also slowly fade away.

I may be wrong
Nick Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

FM I met, and clearly I saw for a glimpse that he is a compassionate man. He does it from the heart.
===========================================================

FM is compassionate man, that
is not the issue Alien honey,
I think a mass email mailing
was impersonal for a man of
his compassion and stature
given his vast amount of
resources.

Lee Noga (Serge is my secret Lesbian Lover!!!!!) Falcon Foto- 29 new discs, say my name get 50% off at checkout

FM I met, and clearly I saw for a glimpse that he is a compassionate man. He does it from the heart.
***********************

He does everything from the heart....
I never forget folks from near by offices rushing to my office when I was trying to out cry his yells over the phone!

you saw the glimse, and I heard 3 mins no interrupted YELL!

guess who knows more "from the heart" business?????????
;-)))

I almost had a heart attack!
Serge Fresh Video Streams

Charity auctions,and there reasons?

My thoughts (and people are going to be pissy;) :

1.)Orgainised in the main by nice people in this biz that probably do not gross 6 figs per yr (hobbiests).

2.)Supported publicly by "players" in order to gain positive PR among the hobbiests and therefore more joins to there affiliate programs,more sales of there content,or dare I say it,(DARE!,DARE!) more visits to there webmaster message boards.

Charity should always be done anon.

This biz is more and more being divided into the haves and have nots,and I am not referring to $$$.

Just my 2 cents

Nickatilynx (The Internet's No1 Crook (Alledgedly)) 65% Partnerships!

another test
Edd (Sneaky Ninja Webmaster) Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

Charity/Sacrifice makes a mark in the hearts of the living and to die knowing that you made a difference to someone is truly priceless.
***********

Alien,
I see that you are confused.

Mayas were the worst human sacrifice offenders.

NOBODY knows why they left their cities one day and where have they disappeared from the face of the Earth, NOBODY!

bringing historical parallels might work on some lesser sofisticated boards, but some of us here DO know the history.
Serge Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

Testing

Deep Moat Pith test

Serge,

That is messed up!

True Story:

On a bank in Clearwater FL
an image showed up on
the tinted glass, it
was of the Mother Mary-

It was predicted years
ago, this would show up
on a bank, and it did.

Why? Message was ppl are
more committed to their
money than their faith.
Hence the choice of a bank
for this image to appear.

The window could not be
cleaned, bank closed from
millions of tourists and
its now a shrine.

Donation of ones TIME, TREASURE
and MONEY will come back to
them 10 fold...

Yes, Mike Fold and 9 close
relatives :-))
Lee Noga (Serge is my secret Lesbian Lover!!!!!) Falcon Foto- 29 new discs, say my name get 50% off at checkout

Morning-
I feel a bit disturbed today.

This charity thing that has been a hit lately amoung many of us I feel is a good thing always has been, and probably always will be.

It works as a tax write off and works to help those that have not. Going public with contributions and calling for othes to come aboard is good as it makes us aware of our mortality, makes us aware of the those who got a bad hand in life and personally makes me want to thank someone or something.

Perhaps this goes back to the earliest civilizations, except they did not call it charity, they called it sacrifice.
Sacrifice called on higher powers to bring good crops, luck, healing and forgiveness and a plethera of other events.
It is a call for divine intervention or divine acknowledgement. The question if there is a god or not does not matter. To die with a clear mind knowing you did what you can for the living while being alive is what matters.
Why would anyone want to die knowning they were selfish, knowing that they were nothing more or nothing less amoung the living.

I think we all strive for a little immortality through remembrance and acknowledgement of things that can affect the living long after our own death.
Charity/Sacrifice makes a mark in the hearts of the living and to die knowing that you made a difference to someone is truly priceless.

Give not because you have to.
Give not because everyone else is.

FM I met, and clearly I saw for a glimpse that he is a compassionate man. He does it from the heart.

I see this in many of us that I have met and it only happens in person. Never through a board, never through a phone call.

Sometimes I see no good values in some of us that I have met.

We need not to explore or question why, what and how. It hurts the heart of those capable of helping those who have not. And certainly hurts those who will never get help.
ALIEN SINCITY

Rox,
I know lots of things,
but....
sticking broom in the ass of somebody who can sneeze on you and you get cancer, is not something I practise very often
;-))

my young days of fighting with KGB are gone.

all I can do is to completely forget it ever happened and one day
join the human race....

Serge Mr. Cash pays $.80 per signup!

Lens,
Give me a call at the office when you get a chance, need to talk to you 718-421-7835.
Tukhman SexCooooounter

Serge, that IS seriously fucked up. But I'd think that asshole was the exception and not the rule. If he wasn't the first to meet your broom handle, he should have been! A donation is a GIFT, and it's sad that anyone would sink so low as to predicate future business on one's decision or ability to give.

I don't want to lead any crusades myself, but I do feel it does my soul good to help out. God knows there have been times when I've needed a hand and someone was there for me.

Besides, like MelissaD said, there's that Threefold Law... which this old pagan lives by :-)
Rox $2 means as much as $200 at EWF

Vick,
I don't remember the name of the charity,
I don't remember the name of the client,
this all happened so long ago that
I feel like my head was erased by first KoKO's than Lensman's proggies
;-)))
Serge The Affiliate Program that PAYS!

I hope everybody noticed 2! official counters we have
each checking our stats.

very soon they will be available to the public
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-)) 65% Partnerships!

" he told me about his favorit charity, and asked me for donation."
Rachel Cooper Foundation?

Would say look deep into yourself and what made you champion that cause?

That answer may be too simple
And not give full disclosure for what you seek

Vick The Affiliate Program that PAYS!

"I totally agree, it's similar to my fat live feed I brought out in '97. Everyone laughed at me and said "FAT" ; ) the next serious program came out 1 year later, and then it was history. "

Koko - this proves that your programs are ahead of its time.

Where our timing is perfect ;)



Lensman Adult.com is giving away 3 new cars - make just 20 sales and you odds are 1:200!

Hahahaha. Serge, vozmi s soboy ne zhoru a vasu,
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Serge,

What's the story? I can't imagine what would turn a person off to helping others in need.
Rox
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Rox,
this happened many years ago,
in my sign making days,
I had a very, very, very rich client,
nuclear submarine salesman,
He had more money than everybody you meet on all adult boards out there, including all past and present posters, his personal wealth was in the hundreds of millions.

We had leisurly lunch and he told me about his favorit charity, and asked me for donation.
I said sure but decided to go one step futher and went to AOL Investment Chat board I frequented and asked everybody for donation.

Folks on this board knew me well, all of them were successful stock traders and we together collected close to $100,000,
much, much more than I would be able to donate myself.

We sent money and all felt very upbeat about till I got e-mail from his Chairman of The Board that they of course appreciate the money, but very much disapointed that my personal contribution was only $9000, while they expected more from me......
I lost that acount a few weeks later.

and that's when it clicked in my head:
1) the client by himself could donate millions without even noticing it, but...he wanted get others for some reason....

2) when he got others like me,
he expected certain donation based upon HIS numbers in the head, not mine

3) my contribution and me personally be close to those numbers was more important to him than the money collected for the charity overall

and I say
it's all fucked up and those who lead crusade for children charity have some other issues with their
souls
power trips
fear of death
and those are just a tip of the iceberg and NOBODY can explain me what's under the surface.

that's all,
that experience made a very huge charity cinic out of me.
Serge The Affiliate Program that PAYS!

Dear Mr. Penis,

Got a gripe today.

When I got the NTCOR email-
I thought it was spam using
a forged header--

Mass mailing affliates about
non busines related stuffs, nah--
This had to be abuse on somebody
elses part, not CyberErotica's.

But if its for charity is it abuse?

Perhaps, a better way to get some results would have been to do something at CyberNetExpo to raise money for the cause-

But that takes more effort
than a mouse click -

I am NOT an EMAIL addy, I am a person- Emails don't contribute, PEOPLE do!

Thank-you Mr. Penis for being
my friend & bless PattyeCake and the auction, I believe :-)

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Serge,

I'll take the UnderDog position, I like it : )


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Lensman,

I totally agree, it's similar to my fat live feed I brought out in '97. Everyone laughed at me and said "FAT" ; ) the next serious program came out 1 year later, and then it was history.

All of us combined do make the product much more MainStream.
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I was a strong believer in charities untill my personal experience put everythign upside down.

LMK if you don't know the story.
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Serge,

What's the story? I can't imagine what would turn a person off to helping others in need.
Rox Bless the beasts and the children, for in this world they have no voice

Lens,
I know your brains, and I know KoKo's and Slavik's brains,
and I know Jeremy and DK's brains
if all of you went the same direction,
it makes me believe that it a good road to follow for webmasters
with proven leaders at the helm.
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The 2 Major Differences are:

1. The price of our product is 39.99 and his is 69.95.
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Yeah, this could be a huge factor, as I recall Jeremy abd Dragon King have not been very successful with their venture which was based on the higher priced software.

On the other hand....Lensman is a big gorrilla and has shit load of webmaster following.

I'll be watching with a very HUGE interest, as knowing both of you,
with equal deep pockets,
how this is going to play out!

Best of luck to both of you,
I don't see an underdog in this race!
Serge SoftwareBucks.com

Thanks KoKo and Slav-

When we started developing the software, there was only one serious competitor in the category, now there are 4 total, all are great programs.

The great thing is that this illustrates that this is an important category for which every webmaster needs to be with at least one of the four programs out there.

One program = niche. Four programs = mainstream.


Lensman Adult.com is giving away 3 new cars - make just 20 sales and you odds are 1:200!

Serge,

were you in Spain during your vacation? I saw someone who looked very much like you in a small shop in Puerto Banus, but I wasn't quite sure if it was you. The english was too good ;)
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Lensman,

Congrats on the new prog : )


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Serge,
Regarding Lensman's new prog.

The 2 Major Differences are:

1. The price of our product is 39.99 and his is 69.95.

2. We Have a full credit exit setup on CleanBrowser that is doing apx. 10% increase on sales for affiliates.

Much Much more coming soon ; )
KoKo SoftwareBucks.com

Dokk,
very well put and intelligent argument.

I understand the basic desire of doing good and leaving the mark on this earth.

But....I do not think it's that simple.

I was a strong believer in charities untill my personal experience put everythign upside down.

LMK if you don't know the story.

Cuz leaving the mark argument doesn't compute with:

1) why not donate money one has in abundance and keep it between charity, himself and God?

2) why attack others who don't wanna give to this particular charity?

I don't make public $$$ I sent to my aging baby sitter who took care of me 40 years ago, I don't ask others to participate in my charities and I don't get pissed off when I meet others who do not share my opinions on the subject.
Serge SoftwareBucks.com

Serge!

Perhaps are close to the mark, not quite a bulls-eye,

But very close!

Put some of this in your computer and please do not hold back on anything in reply! ;-))

(a) we will all get old
(b) you, me, everyone reading this board will die (eventually)
(c) at a certain point we become "in touch" with our own mortality between getting old and dying.
(d)when you're dead all that's left is what you've done.. or haven't

which leads to every man's eternal struggle with what the time on earth has been worth .. to himself and significant others.

am not sure i agree with you on going "public".. !! always thought "public" meant everyone!!

people in the porn industry don't go to people in lawnmower industry for help.. do they? ;-))!!

it makes sense to me for person to approach whatever group they do business with to raise monies for charities.

it also (to me) makes sense to utilize whatever vehicle is available to accomplish the task at hand.. whether it's email, webmaster board, whatever.

why children?

because they are the ones who don't have a choice.

and our best chance for the future!

one does not have to be millionaire..
or pornographer,

to feel the angst of a child in need.

i can only speak for me,
having lost a child,
being blessed with the daughter i have,
makes me biased .. !!!!

;-))
dokk The Webmaster Calendar

KoKO,
as you probably know,
Lens came with something similar to what you have.

Can you point similarities and differences between your 2 progies?
Serge SoftwareBucks.com

Serge,

I love your description of France:
"Socialist Republic of France."

I've got a rich cousin who's not rich anymore that lives out there..
You couldn't of said it better ; )


KoKo SoftwareBucks.com

One thought MIGHT be....they are "future" surfers.
Another might be, pornographers are people too, they very well could have children, and can't stand the thought of any child suffering.
Or, maybe they had rough childhoods themselves and wouldn't wish it upon any other children.
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Candy,
somehow it sounds more out of a fary tale and doesn't go along with their business profiles...
it doesn't compute.
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GOOD PR?
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that would make sence. That would explain it.

but.......

How come we don't know out of the top of our heads how much
Vice President of General Motors contributed, or Regional Mnager of Chase Manhattan bank?

those guys do not beat their own drums for Good PR, it's more done on the corporate level than on personal....

but definatelly GoodPR has something to do with it, even though it can't explain it fully...
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-)) $50 Per Active Member!

Okay Serge, Candy

How about simply this: GOOD PR?
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Hi Serge, in answer to your question...I DO NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT DRIVES PORNOGRAPHERS MULTI MILLIONAIRES to become front runners in mostly children charities?

One thought MIGHT be....they are "future" surfers.
Another might be, pornographers are people too, they very well could have children, and can't stand the thought of any child suffering.
Or, maybe they had rough childhoods themselves and wouldn't wish it upon any other children.
Of course, there is also your explanation....which may or may not be the likely one, they feel guilty and are trying to make themselves feel better about the type of work they do by donating massive amounts of money to the biggest charities around...ie childrens charities.

Just a few thoughts I had on the subject is all :)

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