mutt, that's why prudent producers require 2 ID's rather
than one, it makes it slightly more difficult for the model
to get past the screening and easier for the producer to
prove they really tried to verify the age.... but still it's not
impossible for a producer to get in trouble even if they really
do try their best... if you want to be 100% sure to stay out of
trouble then I guess it's best not to produce or sell porn at all....

Timon

it's obvious Tjay and his bosses were at fault here, they were all nothing more than pimps. Tjay is painting himself as naive........guys who work for pimps running hardcore sex webcam shows aren't naive. You can bet this wasn't a high class escort service, most of the girls i bet were the same type as the underage girl.

BUT it does raise the question, what can a content provider do in the situation when a girl shows up with excellent forged piece of ID? Can you beat the rap if that's the case?
mutt

Actually, the law says that you only need one ID, but it is always smart to get two for safety sake.
*****************************

One ID or two ID's, from tjay's interview I made up he
didn't even have ONE ID on file so there really is no excuse
for not checking ID since if you produce and publish porn
you MUST legally keep a copy of the models ID on file...

Or am I just really stupid? :-)

Timon

March Madness NCAA Tournament is almost here........should we do a Pickem?

People interested in sponsoring a Final Four Pickem email me mutt@oprano.com
Cash and/or prizes welcome!
mutt

no, this is my new Russian Girlfriend

http://e-l-ena.narod.ru/

it's a slow loading, but worth every pixel of it!
;-))
Serge

Morning Mike, Serge & Oprano...

Geesh, not even one cup of coffee yet and my name is already being taken in vain :o)

What'd I say this time? LOL

Have a great day folks :)
Snoops (Ð)

who dat? Serge's first wife?

So far nobody admitting to being worse than Nick. It's early in the voting tho, the real scumbags don't usually get up until 1 pm.

Vote here "How Honest Are You?"

http://www.opranoplus.com

News
******

Phoenix Cop Keeps Job Gets Reprimand For Wife's Amateur Porn Site

Lycos Europe Hires Porn Webcasting Companies To Launch VOD System

Yahoo Stands Trial In France


mutt

Timon,

http://www.letsgo-etc.com/granddads/i_remember.htm

I also remember what it was like before the "War on Drugs".
Torone

Aha, here you are :-)
Nice site ;-)

Muaaaaaaaah

e-l-ena Oh, my darling...
********************************

Lena,
will you marry me?
;-)))
Serge

Actually, the law says that you only need one ID, but it is always smart to get two for safety sake.

Far-L, unfortunately my opinions are not welcome over at amateurmasters since they delete my posts within minutes of being posted.

Now, our buddy tjay is admitting that he cannot file an appeal as I pointed out yesterday after he serves his time because he only has 30 days after sentencing/conviction to file an appeal. NOW tjay says that when he is out of jail he is going to have his case re-opened and get his conviction expunged! HAHAHAHAHA, that is a classic. Sorry tjay, the courts dont let you walk in and have your case re-opened a year later unless their is evidence of jury misconduct or their is compelling new evidence to your innocence. But......

YOU PLEAD GUILTY!!! Can I make that any clearer to you? YOU PLEAD GUILTY because you ARE GUILTY. There was no jury so there can be no jury misconduct. There is no compelling new evidence. YOU PLEAD GUILTY because you ARE guilty.

What is really disturbing is that since all of the inconsistencies and lies about his story have been exposed, he now says he knows he did things wrong and that he just wants to accept responsibility and do his time and deal with it when he gets out. Gee, this is a much different story then you had the other day tjay when your position was to blame the media AND the girl! Can you believe this guy? He was actually blaming the 14 year old girl!!! Going on and on about how she was a prostitute since age 12, did drugs, sold drugs, blah blah blah blah blah. What I find so disgusting is that tjay followed the typical modus operendi of most rapists, vilify the girl. Vilify the 14 year old girl and make everything her fault.

I find that repulsive.


JMM (Oprano's Resident Satirist)

Aha, here you are :-)
Nice site ;-)

Muaaaaaaaah

e-l-ena Oh, my darling...

You, me, Snoops, everyone, do not think not checking an id is no excuse.
******************************
Well the law says you need to keep two forms of ID that
show date of birth on file and a signed model release
that states the model is of age...

I guess at the end of the day that's what really matters...

Timon

Domain Name: MONEYFORHITS.COM
Administrative Contact:
Administrator, Domain dns@netcommand.com
562 Lakeland Plaza #247
Cumming, GA 30040
US 678-455-7690
************************
The funny thing is that the name of the city really IS the name of the city :)

Michael, I know you have NO involvement on how great Directnic is ;) but please tell the folks you keep in the back room running it that's it's GREAT! Love the batch processing - I'm guessing that's new? (just wish OpenSRS would do it also so I don't get hung up when transfers hit THEIR system...)And I save money with the Quantity Discount $$'s :) Plus, when I get really confused, I email Grimm and he emails me back ;)

Peaches

Torone - bravo!

Timon

Mike AI: I respectfully disagree that we respectfully disagree. You, me, Snoops, everyone, do not think not checking an id is no excuse.

Like I said before, when I was talent, I would never ever not in a million freaking years let a producer make those determinations for me. There is too much at stake, and I imagine that the stakes in that state are even higher, i mean, California puts up with pornographers, but Ohio? No way no how.

Far-L Far-L stars in "CAGED PIG FUCKER HEAT"

What could anybody possibly do in bed for 27 minutes?
***************************

I can't even sleep for that long!
;-))
Serge

Cam,
I hate to hear about your trouble. As much as I dislike drugs, I dislike the 'War on Drugs' much more. It may not sound consistent; but I would like to see most drugs legalized. The 'War on Drugs' was lost before it ever began. All it has accomplished is to make criminals of a lot of people who weren't (or wouldn't have been).

It has brought violence and bloodshed to our neighborhoods and increased our crime rate beyond belief.
Torone

What could anybody possibly do in bed for 27 minutes?

Ask to see her driver's license?
Colin 4 Free Bucks. Whupping ass as always!

A tape that allegedly shows R. Kelly engaging in sex with an underage girl, which is now under investigation by Chicago police.........the content of the footage in terms of setting and activities matches what has been described as the nearly 27-minute tape currently under investigation.

What could anybody possibly do in bed for 27 minutes?

Drestin

Monk: Give it a rest.

Cam: Totally sorry to hear about that. What state are you in? Are you satisfied that your attorney is doing a good job? A very good friend of mine is an attorney who specializes in weed cases and helped write the marijuana initiative in CA. If you want a number, I would be happy to get it to you.

Far-L Far-L stars in "PIG FUCKER MEET BRUBAKER"

Here you would have gotten it confiscated and probably a small fine.

But noone cares about softer drugs as long as you're 18 years old you can do whatever the fuck you want.

We have a street in Copenhagen called Pusher Street where they openly sell hash, mushrooms etc in small booths.

About once a year the police raid them because technically it is against the law. But usually noone goes to jail, they just confiscate everything maybe fine them depending on how many kilos it is :)

If they're not Danish citizens though they get thrown out and a permanent ban from entering the country.

But good luck CAM - fucked up if you have to go to jail because of that.
Troels

25 years?

Holy shit.... in Holland they probably wouldn't even
take the effort of confiscating 50gr of weed...

Timon

New Oplus Poll
***************

How Honest Of A Webmaster Are You?

1)I'm above reproach, clean as a whistle!

2)I'm a bit shady but mostly honest.

3)I'm pretty shady.

4)I make Nick@Ilynx look like Dudley Do Right, i'm pure scum!

It's an anonymous poll, no way for anybody to track votes so BE HONEST.......of course if you're a lying thief it's kinda stupid to be asking you to be honest but........

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mutt

Troels....here in America they arent'
able to distinguis the difference between
a dope smoker and a murderer! We are looked
at as just as bad. And incarcerated for
longer periods.


oh....I didn't mention the fine for the
production charge....you get 10-25yrs PLUS
a $750,000 fine!
yes....that's 3/4 of a million!
CAM

25 years!?!?!?!

That's sooooo fucking sick.
We've had one person here in Denmark who've been sentenced 25+ years.

He killed 4 cops.
Troels

No Troels......weed.

all marijuana charges....
CAM

CAM,

are you talking about hash?
Troels

It's all about if you can "afford" to stay out of prison! ;)
guilty or innocent, our justice system like our tax system favors the rich.
After what i've been thorough...I feel for the poor people of this country who get arrested.
CAM

I face stiffer sentences than all rapists, child molesters
and some murders.....
CAM
*************************

...and OJ and DeLorean who brought suit case with cocaine to US will attest to that!
Serge

Monk,
you answered my question...
I don't know how to play Canadien markets besides ADR's

BTW,
ACG goes ex-div this morning,
so price should drop 8 cents from the opening,
if it goes lower than 8 cents,
I'll be adding truck load to position
Serge

I agree it is a fucked up world CAM.

Its people like Far-L, who think that my actions were worse than TJay's, that makes it that way.

Good luck with your case.

Monk

Not sure what you mean Serge. How do we get access??

I just have to open a U.S. investment account.... all of the Canadian banks and brokerages have them as the U.S. market is THE market to be in.

We do have a limitation in our RRSP's (equivalent to your IRA's)... in that these funds can only be invested in foreign(US) stocks to a max. of 25%.

Otherwise, it is completely open access to your markets from up here.

Monk

Hey Monk.....appreciate the thoughts... :)

No....they didn't find a shitload....just a SMIDGE
over what in NJ can be charge as a distributable
amount.

under 50grams simple possesion
over 50grams possesion and automatically
charged with distribution.

Also have a production charge which carries the 10-25yrs....
they found some equipment and some other inciminating evidence.

I face stiffer sentences than all rapists, child molesters
and some murders.....
CAM

Monk,
how do canadiens play US stock market?
Serge (if you don't take checks online, you leave 30% on the table)

Thanks gumshoe Timon :)

Troels

CAM,

In all of the shit yesterday, I forgot to address your upcoming court case.... hope everything goes well.

Facing 25 years? You must have had one shitload of dope?


Monk

Troels,

In 1998 they changed their program name to Money For Hits...
the program doesn't exist anymore but they still own the domain:


Net Command Enterprises
562 Lakeland Plaza
#247
Cumming, GA 30040
US

Domain Name: MONEYFORHITS.COM

Administrative Contact:
Administrator, Domain dns@netcommand.com
562 Lakeland Plaza
#247
Cumming, GA 30040
US
678-455-7690

Technical Contact:
Administrator, Domain dns@netcommand.com
562 Lakeland Plaza
#247
Cumming, GA 30040
US
678-455-7690

Billing Contact:
Administrator, Domain dns@netcommand.com
562 Lakeland Plaza
#247
Cumming, GA 30040
US
678-455-7690

Registration Service Provider:
Clearbuilt Technologies, domains@clearbuilt.com
678-455-7690
http://www.clearbuilt.com/


Record last updated on 26-Feb-2002.
Record expires on 29-Sep-2002.
Record Created on 30-Sep-1998.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.EXPO.NET 64.94.7.101
NS2.EXPO.NET 208.32.175.219

Timon

So none of you know who ran it?
Troels

Troels, it probably expired and was reregistered...

Timon

I deleted 2 of my own,
the link I posted was opening console hell
******************************
No worries, it was poor toilet humor anyway ;-))

Timon

Hmm can anyone remember a webmaster program called something like adultcashlink.com ?
Way back - 96 I think.

Problem is whois says it was created in 2001

It was the same time as Fast Cash 1 I think.
Troels

BTW,
now I'm gonna sue MikeAI because Oprano deleted my post!
Serge

My father can beat up your father
********************************
Oh yeah, my father can screw your mother and leave cumstains
in your fathers bed ;-))

Timon

no, Timon,
I deleted 2 of my own,
the link I posted was opening console hell
;-(((
Serge

hey did my post just get deleted???

Timon

Meni, so?

but my father can still make Jenna cum
;-))
Serge

My father can beat up your father
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Timon,
not THIS model
http://nudefreephotos.com/scourge.jpg

;-))))
Serge

Good Morning Oprano
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

my father drives Schwin!
**************************
Well then your dad is a show off,
those are expensive bikes :-)

Timon

and he walks
around on flip flops and rides a scruffy old bicycle
***************************

oh, puuuuhleeze!

my father drives Schwin!
Serge

He is probably the wisest man I have ever met.
****************************

are you talking about Brad?

he still drives his Pinto
;-)))
Serge

"vanity... its my favorite sin"
*******************************
It's definately the toughest one to resist ;-)

I know a man who has millions in the bank and he walks
around on flip flops and rides a scruffy old bicycle
because he feels it's nobodies business he's loaded...

He is probably the wisest man I have ever met.

Timon

Just like the info re: Joe's investment amount is incorrect (same source?).
***************************

I haven't had my Vitamin E this morning...
I don't remember!
;-)))
Serge

I really wish that when you heard such a stupid thing, you talked to me about it.
************************

naaahhhhh,
it came AFTER I made my mind to skip it and it has no influence on me.
Serge

Again:

I lost half a million dollars of my own money in CellularPhones.com. That would have to be the strangest
"pyramid" scheme I have ever heard.


Colin 4 Free Bucks. Get paid per free signups!

He has no ill intention here.
*******************************

you can bet my sweet ass on it
;-)))
Serge

Serge, sorry but the information is incorrect. Just like the info re: Joe's investment amount is incorrect (same source?).

Now it just their word vs. mine. I really wish that when you heard such a stupid thing, you talked to me about it. I could have ended such idiocy then.

I lost half a million dollars of my own money in CellularPhones.com. That would have to be the strangest
"pyramid" scheme I have ever heard.

Colin 4 Free Bucks. Get paid per free signups!

And you think *I* would fuck you?
************************************

Colin,
every fuck has it's price tag,
I even found MINE and I thought I was "holier than thee"

I don't know ANYBODY who can't be seduced, if the price is right,
and the projected $$ windfall from cellphones.com, especially to one who believed in it as I believe in Holy Bible,
was worth fucking 100's of segies,
and...
I don't hold it against you,
we are only humans
;-)))
Serge

perhaps it's just poor lighting sykk. Tho she is Italian and they usually do have luxuriant muffs.

what software do they use to do that stuff?

Wonder what her mom did when she saw that.

http://www.opranoplus.com/alyssa.html
mutt

JR, in this case I know it is Serge and all will be fine. Serge plays. He has no ill intention here.

I don't reply to people with malicious intent. He has none.
Colin Bait for dollars.

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Why would I have such a plan and share it with someone?
*****************************

elementary, Watson,
you did it for the same reasons I shared with Pushrod how SergesCash works, so he could build his own Rush4Gold and tell FM too!

"Vanity, is my favorit sin"

;-)))

as Tjay demonstrated,
we ALL do very DUMB mistakes...and it usually haunt us
;-)))

why there is no "smart mistake" expression in English language?
Serge

damn, mutt, Alyssa nneds to work on am endorsement deal with Bic razors, maybe they'll give her some free ones...
SykkBoy

Even with that knowledge, I have no choice. It is beautiful.
------------------------------
it is funny huh? many webmasters have been hammered repeatedly on the boards simply by feeling they must respond to anything. then they doing knowing they are being set up by someone who has nothing to lose.

the funnier thing is how long it takes them to learn, not to walk into it again and again.

"vanity... its my favorite sin"
-the devils advocate

:-))
JR

Serge,

And you think *I* would fuck you?

You know better. Period.
Colin Bait for dollars.

Serge,

Why would I have such a plan and share it with someone? That is just silly.

Telephone game.
Colin Bait for dollars.

CPI NEVER had a plan to "burn money to get to the next round".
********************************

Colin,
people who passed this info to me haven't fucked me when millions were changing hands,
why would they feed me disinformation in only THIS particular case?

they had no vested interest in ANY outcome of my decission.
Serge (How do you spell CONVERSIONS?)

JR,

Even with that knowledge, I have no choice. It is beautiful.
Colin Bait for dollars.

You're taking your own steps.

'Serge, we'll take you money to burn them, so we could advance to next step and fuck you if you don't put more"?'

Re: "but I do recall the private convo you had with others."

This must be difficult. I can't recall anyone else's private conversations. How do you recall other people's conversations? You don't even have the amount of Joe's investment, correct.
Colin Psst! Wanna make more cash?!

http://www.opranoplus.com/alyssa.html

very rare footage that NBC supposedly had destroyed.


mutt

HAHAHAHA
Colin...

"if you bait them, they will come!"
:-))
JR

Serge,

CPI NEVER had a plan to "burn money to get to the next round". How do you burn money?

Money was allocated to salaries, infrastructure, warehousing, advertising, marketing, etc.
Colin Psst! Wanna make more cash?!

We had a plan.
**********************

and where was it written in the plan that
:"Serge, we'll take you money to burn them, so we could advance to next step and fuck you if you don't put more"?

I don't recall it written in there, but I do recall the private convo you had with others.
Serge

I never even took a salary at CellularPhones.com

I made $0. So whatever you are implying is just nonsense.
Colin Psst! Wanna make more cash?!

Serge,

There were many more investors than Joe. We had a plan. We intended to stick to the plan.

Where do you see cheating?

*yawn*
Colin Psst! Wanna make more cash?!

Serge,

You had the complete business plan and
that would have been the plan. As is.

In retrospect and with more knowledge now, I know it would not have worked. I certainly had no intentions of deviating form that plan.

Colin Psst! Wanna make more cash?!

In the end, I want to have had fun and made some dough.
****************************

did joee share your vision of "having fun" when he put $25,000 into it?
;-)))
Serge

Oh, I have UNKNOWINGLY broken someone's Terms and Service before. Minor stuff.I am pretty careful not to
but one will make an error or two every few years.


Colin Psst! Wanna make more cash?!

Serge,

I may have been caught up in the
"excessive exuberance" of the internet boom but I certainly don't
think that would qualify me as a cheater.
**********************

Colin,
anybody who takes my hard earned money to burn them leaving me with option to either get out or send even more,
is NOT a fucking ANGEL!

don't call it exuberance,
it wasn't exuberance, it was an attempt on getting FREE circumsission, something doctors charge $250 for!
;-)))
Serge

And on the concept of cheating, and as an example, I could design a perfect cheating program that could totally similate clicks on pages, referers, rotating IPs, click on sites sites, etc. and build HUGE TGPs, TGP2s, CJs, CJ2s, anything that uses a script.

In light of the fact that I believe there is nearly a 100% chance that I would not get caught, I don't pursue this. Why? It is not a matter of moralilty to me. Rather, I like the game. I like playing a game with rules. And I like to win that game.

Some people play this game with no rules. Some people play with all the rules. Some with some. In the end, I want to have had fun and made some dough.
Colin Psst! Wanna make more cash?!

I've done all these but cheat.
********************************

I cheated once... in 1996 I thought the Click Cash banners for
Amateur Hardcore sucked so I made my own...
they didn't appreciate it ;-)

Timon

Serge,

I may have been caught up in the
"excessive exuberance" of the internet boom but I certainly don't
think that would qualify me as a cheater.



--------------------------------

If I did and don't remember, email me and I will immediately admit it
on this
board.
******************************

cellularphones.com business plan....

especially in the light of one of the parties who told me about your
plans to burn the money you get from first round investors like ME to get faster to second round...

if that wasn't Big Time Cheat,
I don't know what cheat is
;-)))

Serge


Colin Psst! Wanna make more cash?!

sure!
Serge

Serge,

HAHA! Can I post your email?
Colin Psst! Wanna make more cash?!

colin,
YGM
;-))
Serge

...or I could look over 4 pages worth of posts ;)))
SykkBoy

Wow, what a day :)

For those who used to read the old Sykk Thoughts columns, all three of you...FuckBucket had his second child this morning (well, his girlfriend did anyways ;)) Seems his penis is useful for something other than whacking....but I can't believe he refused to name his new daughter after me...

Anthony, oriental pearl had a little snafu, can be ready in about 48 hours now :)

Now I need sleep :)
SykkBoy

Serge, back off!

we are making a list of virtuous porners. so far we almost have about 0.3 :-)
JR

Serge,

I can't in any way think of any time in this industry that I have attempted to cheat or did cheat.

If I did and don't remember, email me and I will immediately admit it on this board.
Colin Psst! Wanna make more cash?!

I've done all these but cheat.
********************************

Colin,
Colin, Colin.....

do you really have to go there? especially when it comes to "undiscovered dirt"?

want me stick your nose in shit and save you futher
"holiest than thee" posts?
Serge

Chris,
let's run an Auction!

I'm feeling better already just thinking about it!
;-)))
Serge

http://www.adultbuzz.com/020602/page4.phtml

I've done all these but cheat. Don't cheat is one of my 3 morals.
Colin Psst! Wanna make more cash?!

I'd bet at least one half of the people going apeshit over all this stuff have some serious dirt on them that hasn't been uncovered yet.
*******************

yeah,
but they don't post here anymore
;-))))
Serge

http://www.adultbuzz.com/020602/page4.phtml

this guy is a bona fide MORON!!!!
----------------------------------

Serge,

It appears he will be getting "bona fide" for the next 6 months.. according to his sentence..


chris/pornoman $20.00 For Free AVS Signups...

I'd bet at least one half of the people going apeshit over all this stuff have some serious dirt on them that hasn't been uncovered yet.


Colin My dirt ....

http://www.adultbuzz.com/020602/page4.phtml

------------------------------------
OK, quick Oprano poll

who made decent money with paysites that follows this "experts" advice?

who made money with paysites that did not do at least one or more of these things?

how many completely virtuous webmasters are there in the adult industry? ... nominate your favorite completely virtuous webmaster here:____________________

whose ass does the sun shine out of anyway? ___________________ (fill in the blank)

JR

http://www.adultbuzz.com/020602/page4.phtml

HAHA .. a roadmap to success.

Even better than http://www.opranoplus.com/askcolin/
Colin TGP2.COM What's happening?

R3K,
do YOU ever sleep????
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sleep is for people with no modivation (or coke)
R3K

Yeah most of the points in his article have been many
peoples secret to success ;-))

Timon