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mutt,
I believe russians taking all sports serious as a by product ot their previous totalitarian regime.

As you recall, Hitler first in 1936,
Stalin later,
were concidering sports results as a bench mark of their societies better values.

Russians are pissed BIG TIME now, I wish I had their problem
;-)))

I suggested for them to stop accepting US$$ on their sites in protest and bring american economy to stand still!
;-))
Serge

really? man the Russkies are really taking this Olympics shit hard.

it really has been a bad Olympics for them, Russia used to have the most medals in the Winter Games, this time they have half of what the USA has, a few more than Canada.
Then the Canadian pairs skater scandal which made the Russians look bad. They got screwed in the hockey game vs Czech Republic by bad refereeing. Then they just banned one of their best athletes for blood doping. Last night, the Russian girl in the singles skating choked and an American 16 year old beat her.
Bad sports, they just want to blame everybody else for their problems.

mutt

shit, I am about to be banned from Russian Board due to ...Olympics and making fun of Russian protests
;-))

God bless them!
;-))
Serge

interesting article here , The Net and the porn revolutions has made the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue a dated quaint anachronism.
I remember when it was HUGE, guys would be anticipating it for weeks.
It's out on the newsstands now, nobody cares.

http://www.opranoplus.com

mutt

Slav,

No problem. The good things about GOOD friends is they can show up whenever they want. ;)

Colin All Insite Programs Rock!

Morning Colin :)

i owe you an email :)

Slavdogg

Slav,

Moooorrrrrning :)
Colin Oprano's "Ask Colin"

Serge, they wouldnt cuz its already taken :)
Slavdogg

There's a book at the Barnes and Noble in Sarasota, Florida. It's on a display case right up front. It's called "Naked Babies". I didn't see anyone freaking out.

Colin Oprano's "Ask Colin"

Slav, will they register
COCKHOLSTER?
;-))
Serge

>> Ms. Keogan claims that Register.com uses filtration software to scan for unacceptable terms it will not register,

I believe register.com is the ONLY registrar now that will not register names with the famous 7 words.
fuck, piss, cunt, cocksucker, shit, motherfucker, tits.

wow, these guys are outdated big time.

Slavdogg

and another day begins and adventure continues!
;-))
Serge

Ulfie,

your are correct.
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This also was taken from that
article.

“We shouldn’t be making decisions on offensive site names and we don’t set standards,” says Register.com spokesperson Shonna Keogan. “We’re not supposed to judge the future content of a site by the domain name.”

Ms. Keogan claims that Register.com uses filtration software to scan for unacceptable terms it will not register, but “Lolita” is not one of them. Meanwhile, Childpornsite.com and Underagenymphos.com were both registered by the company.

Another domain registry company, Tucows, defends the registration of Lolita sites as an issue of supply and demand and claims that registration companies don’t contribute to child pornography. “If there wasn’t such a demand for Lolita sites in the U.S., do you think the Russians would be producing so much child porn material?” says Elliott Noss, president and CEO of Tucows.

voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

Todd, the only time they look at you is if your CB ratio gets out of line. If you deliver the goods and make people happy and basically don't upset Visa's apple cart they could care less what you do. At least that's been my experience with them.

Ulfie

Yeah and u can blame the media for some of that. When I go and search for news i have a keyword list that i use, when i type 'porn' into a news search engine it gives me tons of news stories everyday, 95% of the time when the word 'pornographer' or 'porn' is in a news headline, the story is about some fucker selling, distributing or caught with CHILD porn. The media makes no distinction anymore, they don't call them 'child pornographers' most of the time, just pornographers. We get grouped in with the kiddy porners.

The Net is paradise to these sickos. KP i assume used to be pretty hard to get your hands on, u had to find a network of other freaks. Now it's all there at his fingertips, the demand is growing and that I fear means more kids are getting taken advantage of.

mutt

Ulfie,

alot of times yes, they don't check if your really selling wedding gowns, sometimes they do site inspections, but there is always ways to beat the "system"
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I was reading that article,
wow, This is from that article.
"These unlawful sexual images can be purchased as easily as shopping at Amazon.com"

Im with you, Ill sleep depressed, if at all.
voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

Vick,

I agree with you wholeheartedly,
but, Something has to be done
without jeopardizing the as you
say, white hats of the industry.
Drastic measures need to be taken.
There are so many brilliant
people here at oprano, surely
something could get done.
I dont know, maybe its a lost
cause, much bigger than anyone
can deal with, but you cant
stop trying.

voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

STK, you are right on, when I was in the mail order business I used to run the transactions through a bridal store account. I got a 1.7% rate that way instead or 8% for high risk transactions. That was pre-internet but I would guess that is what some of these scumbags are doing.

Ulfie

See that is why I get so happy when larry flynt opens another hustler store somewhere in america. it helps us by pushing sex / adult around the usa.
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See vick,
that is the problem. normal american ppl whether liberal or not, find out about this bad shit with kp, and they relate it all in the same pool with us. we only sell to consenting adults who wish to see sex, etc. we will never get accepted within mainstream like they do in europe and other places.
-----------------------------

voodooman - as much as I hate to say it I think we all would get painted with the same brush
We're all pornographers
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FarL - Thanks - still a little emotional, got my wife and son tucked away taken care of and had a few beers

voodooman - as much as I hate to say it I think we all would get painted with the same brush
We're all pornographers
Pretty much up to us to handle it within the industry

Think about when you try to explain about the industry to outsiders
I find myself trying to explain we have white hats (good guys) and black hats within the industry

Outsiders pretty much see us all as ...
Pornographers

Vick

Mike,

np, same kinda thing happ. to us about 6 months ago with a "beast site" domain. ppl bitching at me, I said opensrs won't and can't do anything about the domain name, if they did something, they would be held accountable.
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Interesting article I dug up...

http://www.redherring.com/internal/lolita_problem.htm

I am going to sleep depresed.
Mike AI

Voodo,
right on. if they are an american corp. using a visa usa merchant account or whatever, I would email 60 min. np. in this day and age, especially with more ppl in the white house being more to the right, it might be bad news for them.
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Todd, you know me, if it was mine 100% we would have some major server issues. TRUST ME!
Mike AI

What about getting the
media involved? Like
60 minutes or something
like that. Just send
a letter to them, disclosing
names of these american
processing companies, and
let them do the investigation.
Or would that be hurtful to
those of us honest webmasters?
voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

Mikeai,

I was probably wrong bro for even saying that, sorry.. As a Icann provider you really can't do much, dns is one thing, but can't touch the domain probably. not your problem.
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See factoring was very big in the old bbs days and before it was easy to get a merchant account.

Your friend had a computer store, you didn't have a merch. account yourself, he ran your charges for 10% fee.

We did it for ppl in the early 90's, only a couple and they were close friends, but of course it was wrong..
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The real deal is, even know these new regs are out there, they only apply to you if you get caught as a billing person, or are under the watchful eye of visa, etc. I think these regs were more political then anything..

Visa usa and visa international are fucking big!!
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u know alot about merchant account banking Todd. I know very little.
What is 'factoring'? I think that's when you use your merchant account to process credit cards for third parties right? Hookers and other criminal businesses do this i think.

mutt

Vick: Quite eloquently spoken.

Far-L Respect.

Todd, I sent out some e-mails, not sure what we can do without putting outselves out legally.

But sometimes servers and dns do go out...
Mike AI

Mutt,

technically no, even if you have a high volume account, when you get that account and it's for 3rd party billing use, you are supposed to have told them that, but I know the game, most of them time they hardly check.. You probably get under there gun alot with too many charge backs, returns, etc. if you keep within the numbers, well????
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MikeAI- much thanks, nothing to be sorry for.

We see it all the time

Guess the question is what do we do to correct it?

I can't remember how many times I have emailed Ibill (I just have a bone with Iibll still) in the past with this kind of shit and it takes them a while to react

We'll see how things go in the future

Vick

Well see, they all play the game I am sure. if they are using US merchant accounts, shouldn't be too hard to close down, and hopefully you get them put on the Merchant Terminated List, that all merchant providers share, so it makes it very difficult to get another merch. account, or they have to go offshore, or get a high rate M. Account. of course if they get terminated, they just use there friends, brothers, etc SS# and they apply for them.. dunno, nothing worse then taking advantage of someone who is innocent, and under 18. if your over 18, fuck I could care less if you get fucked by 50 ppl at once, you made the choice, but underage, no way Jose, just plain wrong!!!
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i've always wondered about this point. You mean once you have a high volume merchant account you are free to act as a third party processor?

Damn I always presumed that if you wanted to get in that business you would have to go through a ton more red tape and alot of scrutiny.

How do we contact VISA itself and not through our own banks? VISA is throughout the world, where is their head office tho?

mutt

This is from the iBill newsletter:

Visa will be adopting a new policy that will affect certain online vendors
selling material that is deemed questionable. Websites that promote and/or
attract individuals involved in the proliferation of child pornography are
the focus of this new policy.

While not all of the details are known and the official release is pending
from Visa, it has been confirmed that credit card transactions will not be
processed for any site that makes use of words such as "pre-teen," "lolita,"
"pedo," or any other verbiage that can be associated with child pornography.
Sites, which include the use of such words within their domain name, will be
affected immediately upon Visa's activation of the policy. Sites using such
terminology to promote, market, or advertise their websites under any guise
will be targeted as well.

If you own or manage a website which will be affected by the new Visa
policy, you must remove all occurrences of the terminology mentioned in your
website including meta-tags, promotional and descriptive material, domain
names, marketing and advertising, and any other area which could cause your
website to be non-compliant. Sites that are deemed non-compliant will no
longer be able to process transactions using the Visa network. This policy
will be enforced by Payment Service Providers and Visa Acquirers.

iBill has a strict policy regarding certain businesses and products that are
unacceptable, including those which feature child pornography. For a
complete review of iBill's merchant policies, please review our terms at
http://www.ibill.com/Services/Refuse.cfm.

Timon

Vick, sorry... post deleted.

I probably should not have even looked at the spam I got.

:-(

Mike AI

Mutt,

merchant accounts are so easy to get. Now adays you don't even have to have good credit. on 1 of our accounts we are good up to 40 mill. per month, no reserves, etc. of course we have never came close to that, but if I was a billing company. Offshore accounts are even easier to get, but they just charge more, like 5-6.5% or even higher.
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Your right Todd,

Another bad thing is,
These american processing
companies, like you said
only care about the money,
but the sites are mostly
from Russia. What do you do?
voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

I'm sorry - I'm almost in tears right now (feel like some of the emotional basketcases we see in this business from time to time)

If possible can someone please remove post Post # 59338
Totally fucking my head up to see pictures of my beautiful son on the same page where we are discussing KP

I had the greatest day with him today while his Mom was ill
I think we have every Fisher Price toy for a child under 3 and we played with them all today
He's trying to learn to crawl and talk now
Really great to see, he can only crawl backwards and make some sounds but we'll be there soon

Truth is the only way we can remove this KP is to remove the person or companies responsible and to make sure it is no longer profitable

Yeah I can bring down their servers right now
Open there pages 100 times in a 0 frame on a page where I send a few thousand hits per hours
But them I'm wrong (or maybe not depending) or at least legally in the wrong

Bottom line
Look at my son
Your children, your family
How can you want to expolite that
How can anyone want to injure or abuse that innocence

We're all pornographers
But damn
We didn't hurt anyone to get here
We try to provide a little entertainment (hell somedays we may even think we approach art) and someone to get someone's mind off their daily grind, little escape and to give them a little enjoyment
and make a living and hopefully have some fun along the way

Vick

Where the hell did Billcards come from? How do these people get merchant accounts?

Mike i suspect this is an insider thing, a billing company set up by somebody with lots of experience running kp and rape sites. In fact i would bet that they own many of the sites they process for and the others they recruited from their contacts in the scummy underground of webmasters, many Russian, who run these sites.

Is there a way to find out which bank has issued them merchant accounts? I have read the copy on the site, sounds like English is a second language.

Billcards is registered to Andy Jukov, Russian maybe.

mutt

See these billcards and other fucked up companies could care less about what sites they process for.

they only care about the cash and the bottom line. Scary that with one high volume merchant account, you can open for business and give these webmasters a place to use.
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Ihasp is right here in
NY.

voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

Mike,

cancel there damm dns for IHASP

another fucked up company
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Didn't Visa just come out with new rules on "lolita" sites????

Those sites are disturbing to say the least.

Ulfie

Voodooman I agree..

Thing is it appears that lots of these companies are in the United States!

http://google.com/search?hl=en&q=ccbill+lolita

http://www.lolita-age.com/join/index.html Lots of girls here look underage...

Mike AI

Another processor I seen
is IHASP.

Do a search for them and
you come up with more
disgusting sites.
voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

Voodo,

yep, the low of the low.
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I took one look at the
what you posted, that
was enough for me.
If they are processing
for people who run these
sites, they are liable
just as if they were their
sites. There has to be
something that can be done,
and should be done, quickly.
Bad thing is, they could get
shut down, and be right back
up under a different name
in a month. If they are unaware
that this is taking place, well
you know what they say, ignorance
is no excuse.
voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

Mike,

just did a search on google for them, fuck man they process for the totally worst sites around. they seem like another sunbill..
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Looks like a lot of the sites also use Ibill as well. Especially the rape sites.

Mike AI We can quench all of your content thirsts....

Voodooman these people from billcards do nothign but process for kp, rape, etc...

How can they stay in business? Even if the US Federal Gov't cannot shut them down, SURELY there is some freaking VISA regulations to shut this down.

I have been surfing around there are literally hundreds of scum sites they process for.

Man this is really bumming me out. I guess I am naive, I knew there was some sick shit on the net - but it is so prevelant, so out in the open.

I say we send ScottPB over to the people who own billcards houses for a few hours!

Mike AI We can quench all of your content thirsts....

Mike AI,

This is in their TOS.
Your site may not display, publish, promote, link to, or provide access to any images, pictures, stories, video clips or any other media portraying child pornography.

I hope they all rot in hell,
but not before Bubba has his
way with them.
voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

Well I think Billcards takes the cake for scummiest processing.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=billcards

Check out some of the sites.

Anything can be done about this?

Mike AI We can quench all of your content thirsts....

Vick,

All is well here.
Those are great pics.
You did de-thorn that
rose first right?
:-))
Hope Kate gets over
that virus soon.
voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

Slow night...

I just got spammed with some major kp. The billing company who is processing it is billcards.com

http://betterwhois.com/bwhois.cgi?domain=billcards.com

They are hosted in the states. These people not only process, but admin a webmaster program for these scum bags.

I do not understand why the Feds do not shut these fuckers down.

Mike AI We can quench all of your content thirsts....

Just got back an hour ago from watching the Harlem Globetrotters.

Great floorshow, these guys can throw the rock. Stuffed myself sensless with all the food. Nick got us a suite at the GM Place to watch it.

All in all, a great night! =o)

Anthony (Lord Darth Mailer)

have you guys seen this "success" story yet ?

===
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Slavdogg

Sykk,

When is it your going
to Armenia?
voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

Whats Vick been up to?
Havent seen his mug
around in awhile.
Vick? You lurking?
voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

ok voodooman
let me go log onto my AOL account...LOL
j/k ;)))

SykkBoy

Sykk,

At this point, Id settle for
some anon bullshit.
:-)
voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

Fuck refinement, I just want to be entertained ;)))
SykkBoy

Wow, food eating competition and wwf smack down both on at
the same time?? You need two tv's my man, wouldn't want to
miss out on such refined entertainment ;-))

Timon

Hey Yo.
~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thats what I call NOT adding something to the gumbo

;))
R3K

Is this thing on?

voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

damnit BP, you just reminded me, I'm missing SmackDown while watching the food athletes....
SykkBoy

Hey Yo.
BONEPRONE Boneprone Family 4-Life

anyone else watching the Glutton Bowl on Fox?

screw the Olympics, this is my type of athletic event!

eating contests
SykkBoy

haha i dont even know what I'm posting.. I think its time for bed!

Ryan AAA Adult Design

Actually CJ my next big quest is to find a place that I can develope that camera you gave me.

I have some great pictures on there for sure!

DOH

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aaack
Ryan AAA Adult Design

http://www.aaaadultdesign.com/pics/vegas0102/pages/P0000899.htm

Ryan(on the left) did look pretty snazzy! lol.
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...or a spell checker
SykkBoy

geez, I don't even have a clening lady...........
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Ryan
Wow, well dressed AND you found your e-mail data. Will there be anything left to strive for?

Cleo (vaginatarian)

Lol.. CJ.

"the most shagable webmistress"

:-)

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And here I thought I was the bessed dressed. I never wear suits!
I was all spiffied up :)

Is spiffied even a word? If not it is now!

Woot Woot

Ryan AAA Adult Design

ahhhh I found it!

I'm useing a pc so it was somewhere a little different but I found it!

WINDOWSApplication DataIdentitiesryanMicrosoftOutlook Express

how confusing :)

Thanks Cleo!

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Sarah Hughes Strikes Gold!

nice story....she deserved it over Kwan and Slutskaya.

mutt

OOPS

Documents/Microsoft User Data/Main Identity/Messages

Cleo (vaginatarian)

Yes Mike, You are right. Between you and RB I was pretty proud of my suit. Although when CJ complimented me I was nicely reassured!

I have the "Best Dressed Asshole" plaque hanging on my office wall. You should see the look on the cleaning crew when they read it!

Hahahah
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sharky, you WERE by far the best dressed!!

my plaque gets strange looks from my cleaner too HAHHAHHAHAAAA!!!!

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Ryan
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Cleo (vaginatarian)

In your outlook folder?
whats the exact name of the file?

Ryan AAA Adult Design

Ryan
On a Mac it stores everything, mail and attachments, as one giant file in the documents folder.

Cleo (vaginatarian)

I have a question for you outlook express users. How the hell do you back it up? I used to use Eudora and it was easy to back that up but I cant find in outlook where it keeps all the attatched files and email boxes etc. If someone could please let me know where I find the files to back up outlook i'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance :)

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