hahahahah,
our posts crossed, so I guess it wasn't my English
;-))
Serge

Sabbi,
did you read what I posted or that was my English which made you do just the opposite from what I asked you?
Serge

Oh, blonde moment... lol


Sabrina

http://chat.amateurmasters.com/public/ChatView.cgi?T=200


Sabrina

also...Sabbi, can you post the link to this board on the board where she responded to you, so we can educate her silly ass about futility of her efforts?
Serge

And Serge has the best idea of all!
Torone

Torone, me too!
;-))

It weas William the Conqurer, Norman,
I found link on Google to it
;-))
Serge

Sabrina,
I think you have the better idea. I was just translating per your request.:)
Torone

She's cybersquatting. She wants you to make her an offer.
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yes, she does and in ICANN disputes, which cost peanuts,
this si one of the deciding factors of who owns the domain,
therefore...
let her build the site, get traffic to it and...
get this domain from under her,
you'll make money at the end
;-))
Serge

Serge,
I gotta admit, I was pulling legs, LOL! I had just gotten back from a long haul, and couldn't remember. I still can't...need more sleep + coffee.:)
Torone

Torone,
I'd rather kick her ass ;)

Sabby:)
Sabrina

Sabrina,
She's cybersquatting. She wants you to make her an offer. She's also an insulting little bitch.
Torone

CactusButt
I do have to admit that each time I see your tag on my board that I do have Prickly fantasies.

Cleo_LinkUP (Are You Experienced)

oh, Todd, it has nothing to do with "principles",
we just want to improve the industry and raise it's standards
;-)))
Serge

*****
Your real name is not CactusButt, just shocking, imagine that.
*****

Cleo, alas tis true...I sincerely hope this knowledge doesn't not spoil any fantasies you may have about you and I :)

CactusButt

BTW,
on Tuesday,
John "where is the fuckin' money" Cotac
will be here and help few companies drastically improve their Account Payable Departments.

...and I am sure you'll see lots of "Thank you, John" posts from the heads of those departments on Wednesday!
Serge

instrcutions to contact Accounting with further problem because this individual's time was too valuable to be dealing anymore with me and the refusal of permission to post the email so that Oprano readers could form their own opinions as to who was acting professionally.

CactusButt
**************************

hmmmm...that wasn't smart.
I recall we spoke with Ron Levi on the phone in 1997 and how we both praised those who had enough guts to come to the board and tell us about our shortcomings
(actually, 80% of the time it were us showing the world the shortcomings of CE and SC ;-)

becuase that critisism was the valuable input which helped us both to shape and improve our programms.

you can't fix what you don't know is broken,
and if I was Epoch, I'd publically thank you for your input.
Serge

CactusButt
Your real name is not CactusButt, just shocking, imagine that.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...) Links, links and more links

Mike AI and anyone else interested in my latest dealings with Epoch -

Apparently, the check I was due from October 2001 or so was mailed, to the right P.O. Box, but with the wrong zip code. The incorrect zip goes to the same post office, and I get mail correctly delivered with that wrong zip frequently. Also, apparently, the check has cleared.

I guess it is possible that this check is the only one of about 200 I received in 2001 that I do not have a copy of and is not marked off in my accounts receivable...

The second check I asked about, was not payable until yesterday, and it was supposedly mailed out.

Also included in these informatative emails were:

1: Reprimands for "ranting" on the board.

2: Suggestions that I do not belong in this business because I do not understand how it works.

3: Opinions that if the posters on Oprano knew I raised such a "fuss" over a total of about $100, they would never do business with me again.

4: Advice on how to "repair" my "damaged" professional reputation.

The last email I recevied, addressed to CactusButt aka Barry Walling, which I guess by using my real name, was supposed to impress me or somehow frighten me...also included a smart ass response to my perfectly valid question of how you get to a payout of $14.38 on a $29.95 sales in a 60/40 partnership with 15% expenses, instrcutions to contact Accounting with further problem because this individual's time was too valuable to be dealing anymore with me and the refusal of permission to post the email so that Oprano readers could form their own opinions as to who was acting professionally.

CactusButt

Sabby,
here are the few ideas:

1) send e to Carol Cox and start it with:
"This bitch and your prick Evil Chris..."
(yeah, I know he is not responcible,
but this will look good on e-mail to Carol)
;-)))

2) You don't have to worry about Amateur Index,
I think the last "outsider" MikeAI listed there was Masha and Natasha from Russia in 1997
;-))
Serge

Sabby, cool she agreed.

Though i must admit that acknowledging copying the domain which seems to be more than coincidence... then going into a long, unrelated and moronic diatribe about the origins of the name "sabrina" over a millenium ago to defend herself, seems "confucy like"
However, since she definately seems to be a man hater, a little less than cordial, sensual, sexy, affectionate or even human in her ability to communicate with men, i do not see her running a live cam site to make a living.

for that, you need to be a sweet blond, with a cheery personality, with great communication skills and definately sexy in every sense of the word ;-)


JR

And I am going to make damn sure nobody links that bitch's site too.

Sabby:)
********************

yeap, that's what I would have done,
and you'll see right away who your friends are
;-))

nothing is better than real life test, beats the shit out of all the hugs and kisses at the show
;-))

"Judah's Kiss" expression has a deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepp roots
;-))
Serge

And I am going to make damn sure nobody links that bitch's site too.

Sabby:)
Sabrina

Sabby,
don't let this upset you...webmasters won't get confused and this si the only thing what matters,
without traffic she won't be anything else than yet another pimple on the ass of the internet
;-))
Serge

Thanks Serge :)
Andrew Just Launched - Get $100 Off If You Mention Oprano :)

The evil "Sabrina" that stoled my name has responded to me. Holy shit, I think she's Confucy!!! Check her out:

http://chat.amateurmasters.com/public/ChatView.cgi?T=200

Can you please translate?

Sabby:)
Sabrina

Andrew, check Content board, I left a hint there for you
;-)
Serge

Anybody look at their ibill signup forms lately??..

Ibill now has a ticked box down the bottom of their signup forms which donates 1 dollar from every signup to some charity.

Maybe its their "help us out cause our back end is totally fucked and theres a 24 hour delay on stats" charity" ?? :))))

I love the way these buttons are always checked, at least if they started off unchecked as lot less people would end up complaining, however most people prob don't even see something like that.

Oh well, just another reason for more people to move to jettis.


Andrew Just Launched - Get $100 Off If You Mention Oprano :)

well I made a lot more than 100k and less than a million last year so maybe I can get away with posting here...
**************************

net or gross?

net before taxes or after?

if you don't know the answer,
I'll ask confucy
;-)))
Serge

Actually, I believe it was the Hebrews who burned their bridges so that they could not retreat.
Torone
**********************

..and in what desert did it happen?
;-))
Serge

uh oh, Ulfie killed theboard...

no, wait a minute, I'm the only one still up/home at 2:45 on a Friday Night/Saturday Morning
SykkBoy make more bank in 2002

You guys are killing me, I can put you into the most secure server you've ever seen for less than 100K. The pentagon uses the same stuff I use. I think I just found my niche.


Ulfie

Actually, I believe it was the Hebrews who burned their bridges so that they could not retreat.
Torone

10K will get you a lot in the former soviet union.

grimm (Blow Me)

Yeah, we were, but then Kjell got this crazy idea about needing to be faster and more redundant. When it comes to servers and technology, he just likes to spend, spend, spend :)



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Ken I figured you were easily into mid 6 figures with Jettis. I remember talking to Kjell about it...

Whatever it costs, I am happy with the outcome!

Mike AI If you have traffic, we have a solution!!
Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:04:14 - IP: 66.157.48.128 - Post # 53962


Ken Watching MikeAI's money is hard work!

Ken Cool,
I was feeling guilty / bad there for a minute. my real thoughts were really on the cheapness of overseas programmers. but since mike is making me a right wing republican, I will support my own country from now on:)
sextoyking BEST DAMM BILLING COMPANY OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Todd,

No offense taken at all. You seemed curioius, so I thought I'd give you some feedback :)

Every system is different. The more redundancy and bells and whistles, the more $$$$ it costs.

Thanks Mike!
Ken Watching MikeAI's money is hard work!

Mike,

yeh actually I saw that awhile back, someone ordered from your company, and put my name in the comments or something, so the order people came to me and asked me if I knew them, I saw hirise, and said yep!!! don't make no mistakes on that order, Or will never hear the end of it!! :))
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ken, i icq'd you,

with love
todd

sextoyking BEST DAMM BILLING COMPANY OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Ken I figured you were easily into mid 6 figures with Jettis. I remember talking to Kjell about it...

Whatever it costs, I am happy with the outcome!


Mike AI If you have traffic, we have a solution!!

Todd, we will get together and work something out! If you notice we have been ordering products for you from shoots. What we need to do is tell a story of the girl, and link directly to the particular product she uses...

Plenty of time to do that!


Mike AI If you have traffic, we have a solution!!

Damm, sorry for the triple post,

cable modem hung up:(
sextoyking

Hi Ken,

Didn't mean any offence bro:))

I am sure jettis's setup is the coolest, and yes when dealing with OPM, you have to take other things into consideration:))

peace

sextoyking

Todd,

Don't know about the others, but we are well into the 7 figures on our system.

There's a lot more to it than meets the eye, especially when you're dealing with other people's money :)

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What do u think the development costs are for a credit card billing/webmaster affiliate program system like CCBill, Jettis etc?
sextoyking
Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:08:46 - IP: 12.224.183.110 - Post # 53936
Ken Watching MikeAI's money is hard work!

Mike,

if you would do a photoshoot, hi rez pics with gals and or guys, that would be great, I will send you the big box bro!!!!!!
sextoyking

Mutt,
I love the people choice award we got for sextoyworld.com as best store in 1999:))
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They sorta look like the Peoople's Choice Award trophy.
sextoyking

Yeah Todd that is where she saw them, and has been bugging me since...

I would definately do a photoshoot of some of my models with them, then send you the photos so you can use them. Hell I could probably have them push them on their website!!


Mike AI If you have traffic, we have a solution!!

Mutt,
yep glass does break alot, but have you played with pyrex?

Today I took a 1inch and a 1 1/2 inch 11 inch dong, pyrex, and smashed it on a concrete floor, it just bounced:) sounded like a bar bell hit the floor. not 1 break bro:)
sextoyking

Mike,

np, as soon as the big stock comes in, I will ship a sample to you and katie, and mabey she could write a review or something on the new store. won't cost her a dime:)

Glass dildos are seen on real sex alot, good shit there. we will have clear, and also colors on some. and if a customer wants, like to put some writing on one for his wife / girl, etc. Our ppl can do that too:))
sextoyking

glass sex toys? um.......glass sometimes breaks........OOOOOOOUUUUUUUCH!

tho i have seen some porn scenes with those heavy looking glass dildos. They sorta look like the Peoople's Choice Award trophy.


mutt

20+ glass/pyrex dildos, dongs, etc.
___________

I think Katie will be getting in touch with you soon too! haha


Mike AI If you have traffic, we have a solution!!

Mike,

thanks np, just love talking about ecommerce stuff, fun for me:))

A new store of ours will open in around 2 weeks. naughtyglass.com

20+ glass/pyrex dildos, dongs, etc.

big niche market there. will have 3 teir aff. program also, 30 % commissions:))

we will be doing retail / wholesale / drop shipping.. good niche market:)
sextoyking

Thanks for the offer, I may take you up on it oneday! ;-)


Mike AI If you have traffic, we have a solution!!

Mike,

if you ever need any help at all, call or contact me anytime. I know 98% of all shopping systems, ecommerce, on the net:) it's a hobby of mind like politics:)

My sysadmin lives in the ukraine, and this guy is the best security expert I have ever met, he know unix like he know how to eat. Guess he used to hack with the Kgb??? As I am told...

He locks up holes and systems tighter then a virgin bro:)

sextoyking

Todd, I think you should lease out your expertise in handling overseas programers. I am serious, I know at times I might be interested... I will keep in in mind, and lean on you!


Mike AI If you have traffic, we have a solution!!

Mike,

i have had some not so good experiences also with overseas programmers, not that they fucked me over or anything, but the project didn't turn out like I thought it would. I am sure you have a great programming staff at your company. Our programmer mark from the uk, at the time was working on his masters degree in computer science, real smart fellow there bro. If you check sites like elance.com out, you will see some good programmers, at great rates, but of course make sure the contract is detailed:)

our new dvd store is almost done, and was programmed by some guys from Turkey, is turning out nice mike.

http://www.dvdsin.com

almost there...
sextoyking

Todd, bro, your becoming more Republican every day!!! Your quite an international capitolist!

I have no problem with people being hired overseas.... We have had some programing teams overseas, but have not been totally happy with their final product.

Luckily InterCosmos has a great inhouse programing team, however even with them inhouse, programing QUALITY, is more then a few grand...

Of course, maybe you just have the super hook up, and are lucky getting quality programers for pennies on the dollar!



Mike AI If you have traffic, we have a solution!!

Well mike,

I hear what your saying bro, but the programmer who did the software for wishing.com, I paid less then 2k for, mind you it was php, mysql, but I belive it would have handled thousands of transaction per day, np. and yes mike you are correct, he was from the UK, but the software was solid bro. true, when I am talking this kind of programming at this price, it will entail overseas programmers, but bro if they can do the same work for less??? :))
sextoyking

Todd, just knowing the e-commerce back end of DirectNIC, and TigerShark our webserver - 10k is NOTHING... I could burn through 10k in custom programing very quickly.

If you want something solid, fast, redundent, scalable, multifunctional, and of course be able to add in tons of affiliates... 10k will not get you anything.*



*Unless you are paying workers in third world countries, then maybe you can do it for 100,000 Rubles, and 20 pairs of blue jeans! :-)
Mike AI If you have traffic, we have a solution!!

Forest looks like a grea product, only one thing scares me...

the word "Beta"

:-)


Mike AI If you have traffic, we have a solution!!

Mike,

I am no programmer for sure, but whether in perl / php / fast cgi / c, c++ and some Sql, yes your right oracle cost quite a bit more, but what I have been told by Many programmers with lots of experince, cheaper to put up 2-3 fast sql servers. 10k is np, I am telling you bro, this is not top notch technology:) not saying Jettis doesn't have the killer setup or anything, but I took about 6 months and studied all this. One thing i know, and it might not be programming, it sure the hell is ecommerce, merchant accounts, etc..:))
sextoyking

http://www.mansionproductions.com/mpa2.html

saw this today

looks like a cool billing product
Forest

I would say the software companies have made cost more then 100k+ to make. They are not done with PHP, but C, and C++ I know Jettis back end uses Oracle DBase software which is VERY expensive. ( though much more reliable them mySQL)


Mike AI If you have traffic, we have a solution!!

Mspice,

if you need help or have questions on merchant accounts, high volume, let me know.
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I had one done pretty good in php/Sql,etc. Software was pretty fast, etc. Easily can do the whole ball of wax for under 10k, NP
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What do u think the development costs are for a credit card billing/webmaster affiliate program system like CCBill, Jettis etc?
sextoyking

MSpice what is this business plan on doing on the internet?
Mike AI Bling Bling - making you money!!!

THEN

5. Sue them for breach, or lost time, or aggrevation, or for just being jerks?


Forest

4. Cut my losses and recommend that my Client do his billing with Jettis?


Forest

I tried to post this on the millionaires board but I don't have a password :)
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well I made a lot more than 100k and less than a million last year so maybe I can get away with posting here...

Fetishbucks is buying signups PREPAID - no spam though, email or otherwise.

if you got signups for sale, hit me up on icq 2417874 or email me!
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hey does anyone have Likewhoa's NOC number? NOT the number on the support page.

dig420 webmasters get PAID at Fetishbucks!

Here's one for the wise minds at Oprano.

I spent over an hour on the phone this afternoon with the VP of a med sized regional bank.

He explained to me, using well chosen verbiage, that "the bank" had changed it's mind about approving the merchant account that I had set up for my Client (it's his bank), because....

"After careful consideration, and after reviewing your outlines, we believe that you are fully capable of doing the $1,000,000 in monthly transactions that you estimated, and this amount exposes the bank to far more risk than we are willing to take on at this time" (or words to that effect)

Now....

1. Should I be pissed off that they wasted a month of my and my Client's time, and didn't pay any attention to my original "day one" estimates?

2. Be happy that they believe my estimates because that adds some level of validity to my outline?

3. Be happy that I'm not hooked up with a bank that pretty much hasn't heard of the Internet?

4. Cut my losses and recommend that my Client do his billing with Jettis?

5. Sue them for breach, or lost time, or aggrevation, or for just being jerks?

Oprano???

Mspice Bring Lawyers, Guns & Money!

Serge, you still working out?
voodooman

This is her real job
http://sportserotica.com/work
voodooman

Yeap, Voodoo,
looks like her, all right!
;-))

Anon Big Mouth!
;_))
http://sportserotica.com/mouth/

GREAT finding!
;-))
Serge

well it looks like i'm the only one watching the Olympics. I just saw Peggy Fleming skating, 53 years old and still really pretty. Dick Button, 72 years old and still queer as a three dollar bill!!
mutt

Could this be confucy?

http://sportserotica.com/mouth/
voodooman

Dig, as Voodoo says:
"I stand corrected"
;-)))
Serge

Pig Shit

Cleo_LinkUP (Are You Experienced)

I like to think of it this way Serge.. Fetishbucks is my job, Setgo is my hobby ;))


dig420

Setgo isn't a failure, it's just on standby ;)


dig420

Confucy, I thought my claim to fame was Fetishbucks and Setgo.
*******************************

nope, one was a success and another was a failure....
;-)))
Serge

I can't afford to come off the fence ;)
**********************

Dig, do you know what it does to your asshole???
;-))
one can't fart sitting on the fence and this blows one from the inside
;-)))
Serge

hahaha, I stand corrected!!!
voodooman

You should be more of a listener/reader, after all, god gave you 2 eyes, 2 ears and ONE mouth.
*******************

correction, Voodoo, God gave confucy 2 mouthes,
80% of the time she talks out of her ass!
;-)))

that makes it TWO!
;-))
Serge

Remember Serge, I wanna be loved by EVERYONE except confucy, I can't afford to come off the fence ;)

Confucy, I thought my claim to fame was Fetishbucks and Setgo. Now, if I start correcting your posts I won't have enough time to do my own work ;)


dig420

You come here and post crap about your websites.
**************************

I never seen Dig posting crap about his websites.
Serge

confucy,

You should be more of a listener/reader, after all, god gave you 2 eyes, 2 ears and ONE mouth.
voodooman

serge we ALWAYS see eye-to-eye, we just express ourselves in different ways ;)
*********************

oh?

so you see with me eye to eye that you are a fence sitter and your principles solely depend on where the wind blowing TODAY?
;-)))
Serge

Diggy Boo, what is incorrect about my posts?

I speak the truth. You come here and post crap about your websites. Who are you to get your butt in the air?

Your claim to fame is that you know Serge. But everybody knows Sergey...except his girlfriend!


confucy Number One

well it's no Alan Thicke but at least I know who Sting is. I love Sting's voice. Wish he was singing Roxanne instead of this crap he's singing with Yo Mama the Chinese rapper and violin player.

how cool was it that one of the American athletes had her cell phone and was standing beside Pres Bush and she got him on the phone to say hi to her family back home.




mutt

What's wrong, Sergey? Did your
girlfriend say no *fucky* tonight!


confucy
********************

again your ignorance is shown,
go check my morning posts and find that I masterbate 2 times a day to lower my cholesterol.

I guess you are a writer, not a reader.

Go read some books, will ya?

This is adult chat board and your time for bed time Vinny the Pooh is coming
Serge

I doubt very much if Lew Payne did business with you, Sergey.
******************************

no, we didn't do business,
he was hired to take care of the Intertain servers, not a biggie
Serge

serge we ALWAYS see eye-to-eye, we just express ourselves in different ways ;)

voodooman, the older I get the more hermit like I become.

Confucy, seriously.. you post shit that is SO wrong and SO ignorant that you make a fool out of yourself and you don't even know enough to know it.

I'm not a regular on this board but even Opranauts don't deserve your torture heh


dig420

What's wrong, Sergey? Did your
girlfriend say no *fucky* tonight!


confucy poor sergey

BTW Dig, what the hell are
you doing at home on a
friday night?
voodooman

The sky is falling!!!
voodooman

Dig, SAMAZING!!!

our posts crossed but we posted THE SAME THING, and we NEVER see eye to eye!
;-))

unreal!!
Serge

Check your records or I won't be so eager to come back again with breaking news.
**************************

Ebannaya v rot BLIAD,
YOU go and check my very first post today and see what I posted,
as always,
you are hour late and dollar shy, stupid fucked in the mouth bitch.

I don't care if you never show your ignorant ass here again,
go impress idiots from other boards,
DID I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR?

Serge

Confucy, you are one ignorant, don't know what the fuck you're talking about BIATCH!

everytime you post you reveal it.


dig420

Damn Serge, You'll let anyone
into this house!!!


voodooman

Serge, you are very WRONG. I am reporting the news about LPPI v PayPal for the first time on your silly board. Check your records or I won't be so eager to come back again with breaking news.

I doubt very much if Lew Payne did business with you, Sergey. He is big time and he doesn't live on the boards like you and Mutt.

When the two of you have checked out your stories and have the guts to be men and come back and tell Confucy you are wrong, then I will consider accepting your apologies.

PayPal thinks they can screw everybody over and get away with it. Well, this is the second major lawsuit they have been served with this past week, and they will pay.

LPPI doesn't cheat anybody. When you are a technical genius, you don't need to use unlawful tactics or charge unreasonable fees. PayPal had a good thing going for them, and they turned around and bit the hand that gave them the golden goose.


confucy A Linkable Kitty

I just hope you dont try to
dry your dog in the oven.
:-))
voodooman

BONEPRONE,
with this extensive knowledge of computers, which exactly business do you run?
Serge