I like the idea of conditioning people to pay for things on the net BUT who in their right minds would pay to search Yahoo when Google is free?

They're going willy-nilly over at Yahoo.

Monk

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/cn/20020123/tc/yahoo_puts_a_price_on_searches_1.html

Yahoo is going to start charging for searches?
Mike AI

Meanwhile, in a totally unrelated story, Mariah Carey takes Virgin records to the cleaners... not bad for a movie and record that didn't sell.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,43736,00.html

Alex
RawAlex Link your X here.

strange bedfellows

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/special/enron/1222511
grimm (Blow Me) Domain Apex..Auction Your Domains!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/01/23/SP37169.DTL
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We reserve the right to cancel you for any reason we see fit, sign up at your own risk and always remember:
Serge is NOT your momma.
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that just about covers it
:))

mutt, i sent you a quick email
dantheman Don't let this pass you by

dobler is definite fox material. i would watch any game he did. the guy was an animal, and hes damn funny.
grimm (Blow Me) Domain Apex..Auction Your Domains!

has he ever been on any of the football broadcasts as an analyst?
Sounds like he'd be good. Lotta bad ones out there who need replacing.

I think Madden is past it myself.
mutt

http://www.esquire.com/features/learned/001101_mwi_dobler.html
grimm (Blow Me) Domain Apex..Auction Your Domains!

on biting a player

"I only bit one guy: Doug Sutherland of the Minnesota Vikings. He put his fingers through my face mask, and I don't think they were there to stroke my mustache. So I bite one finger in my life, and I don't even chew on it. The legend grew from there. It's almost like I'm worse than Jeffrey Dahmer. "
grimm (Blow Me) Domain Apex..Auction Your Domains!

Dobler was Mike Tyson's kinda guy. He bit people.

what site are you finding these quotes on grimm?
mutt

"One game, I knocked the crap out of Merlin Olsen. If you wanted to see it on instant replay, you had to go to the kitchen because I knocked him so far out of the TV frame. After the game, he says, "One of these days, someone's going to break Dobler's neck, and I'm not going to send any flowers." What happens? He gets the $500,000 FTD commercial, and I don't get shit. He goes to the Pro Bowl fourteen times. He's in the Hall of Fame. He's probably got more money than God. When he was doing Father Murphy on NBC, he had a graveyard scene. One of the tombs said: CONRAD DOBLER. GONE, BUT NOT FORGIVEN. It's been twenty years since I played him, and I'm still on his fucking mind. And I like that. "

i could go on and on!
grimm (Blow Me) Domain Apex..Auction Your Domains!

mutt - ok, I am with you on the "wacky" part now. "Offensive" is indeed a BROAD term. Most programs do specifically state what type of traffic is not allowed.

Free site webmasters like myself, who "do not make any REAL money", have basically no protection against getting cheated. Yeah, I could post a few things on a few boards about how I was ripped off, but file a lawsuit? Not likely worth my time or trouble. Hence, my comment about sticking with the "big boys" and only slowly and carefully trying out the "smaller boys".

Tis indeed a strange business indeed...where one party, the sponsor, has almost total control over determining how much, and if, the other party gets paid.
CactusButt

give Conrad Dobler a pearl

LOL

"I like tits. If women had three, it would be even better. "
grimm (Blow Me) Domain Apex..Auction Your Domains!

you are on the right track, MSpice!
===================================

More than you know Sergei, more than you know ;)

Mspice Greek Restaurant, Parking in Rear

I love this guy

"When guys come over to date my daughter, I'm going to tell them, "I want you to go out and have a very good time with my daughter. I want you to enjoy yourself and have her home on time. If you abuse her in any way, I'm going to kill your mother and father, cut your back open, pull out your spine, and leave you in a wheelchair so you can think about what you did for the rest of your life. Now, go out and have a good time!"
grimm (Blow Me) Domain Apex..Auction Your Domains!

those were fun times. good deals made at LATE hours:)



grimm (Blow Me) Domain Apex..Auction Your Domains!

and no decision was EVER final. i remember one late night conversation where the decision was reversed at least 3 times by both sides, in a half an hour:)
********************************

me too!
every time I re-read those e-mails, tears cover my eyes
;-)))

I NEVER had so much fun again
;_)))
Serge

serge.. you never had a TOS:)
*********************************

of course I did,
some of it even found it's way into their proggy!

http://cotac.com/~serge/newW/rules.html

ahhh...my best pupils
;-)))
Serge

My father gave me a piece of advice: He said, "Never buy anything that eats while you sleep."


Conrad Dobler



grimm (Blow Me) Domain Apex..Auction Your Domains!

serge.. you never had a TOS:)
and no decision was EVER final. i remember one late night conversation where the decision was reversed at least 3 times by both sides, in a half an hour:)
grimm (Blow Me) Domain Apex..Auction Your Domains!

MikeAI,
am I glad to be out of "program games"?
TOSes?

you better believe it!

not my fight and I beyond stating the obvious,
I don't wanna go there
;-)))
Serge

It is in my humble opinion, of having no legal education that that TOS cannot be legally enforced
grimm (Blow Me) Domain Apex..Auction Your Domains!

Hey Beer lovers...

just for fun:
http://www.chilliman.com/beer_labels_frame.htm

peace
greg
gregtx Brad Shaw approved!!!

Fold with the fade away plug:)
grimm (Blow Me) Domain Apex..Auction Your Domains!

Serge you are correct, TOS that are so outragous, and extremely tilted to benefit only the company putting it out is looked up with major suspicion by judges.

Of course most people do not understand this, and it is usually not dealing with enough money to make it a worthwhile lawsuit...

Maybe a class action if a bunch of people have gone through the same treatment.
Mike AI

CB,

the wacky part of their terms was the one which says they can terminate based on the content of the site, anything which might be offensive to them. A site like Consumption Junction or a dirty joke site could be 'offensive'. A bikini site could be 'offensive'.
Why not just spell it out what types of content is offensive to the program operator's sensibiities?


mutt

How about I pay you $3,500 to take it off my hands?
****************************

I'll take $3400....

you are on the right track, MSpice!
;-))
Serge

that TOS is shaky.
***************************

any! TOS is only good as judge says it is...
NOTHING in the world is written in stone...even pyramids
;-)))
Serge

grimmster..
did you get more than 23.79 for that cincy hoagie???
LOL
PickEmFold Holy Dark Batman, its BobX!

Spice...sold, you need pay to info?:)
grimm (Blow Me)

Brother Grimm,

How about I pay you $3,500 to take it off my hands?

I learned to bargain in the "old" section of Miami Beach ;)


Mspice Such a deal

Mspice,

That is a great domain! It has real potential. Great for branding. I appraise it at between 3 to 500 thousand dollars. Good Luck!

AfterNick

gotta agree there mr spice 15 bucks, but you might get more on the auction site.

http://www.domainapex.com

Mr X...married and eating lasagna?
The world is coming to an end....
((o;

PickEmFold Holy Dark Batman, its BobX!

that TOS is shaky.


grimm (Blow Me)

spice...ill give you 30 for it:)
grimm (Blow Me)

mutt - While the "posting deragotory comments" clause is a little whacky, the TOS for damn near every program out there includes the "caught breaking rules you will be terminated without notice and forfiet all monies owed" clause.

While I can certainly appreciate a sponsors need to include this clause, it does pretty much leave the average webmaster "helpless" against unscrupulous sponsors.

Webmaster: Where is my check?
Sponsor: You cheated and were terminate per the TOS.
Webmaster: I did not!
Sponsor: You did too!
Webmaster: Prove it!
Sponsor: Why should I have to prove anything to a cheating scum like yourself?

etc., etc., etc...

Trust has to be earned, and it is a difficult decision to give someone the opportunity to earn that trust, when they (the sponsor) holds all the cards.

It is no wonder the big sponsors keep getting bigger and the smaller sponsors are having a tougher time getting big.
CactusButt

Wow, posted 15 minutes ago
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Jman,
tell this to all your friends
;-))
Serge

Slavik,

It was a business doing pleasure with you! Good luck!
Drestin

CHEERS to Directnic ;-)

Wow, posted 15 minutes ago and got an email from Matthew and a call from Kathy ( great voice btw ).

Problem is fix, thanks for the great customer service.

JMan For Money Makers ONLY !!!

Mspice,

Fifteen bucks.
Drestin

...but be careful admitting that...word may get around! :)
*********************************

CB, I am not worried,
nobody believes anything nowadays
;-))
Serge

CJ..take me now or lose me forever!
grimm (Blow Me)

Meni I guess you just do not know your own strength! haha

MSpice, I would say it is worth at least $15 !


Mike AI

He is a classy guy.
Mike AI
********************

and SMART too!

too bad that
"Good help is hard to find"

I wish him the best of luck in all his endevours,
I always look back at Robert and my heart fills with joy.
Serge

Hey guys, I was looking at getting a domain appraised, but I don't think any of these services have a clue.

What do you guys think "fuckeverything.com" would be worth?

No site, just the domain.

All opinions welcome.


Mspice

I opened SIC cash check and ripped it in half
can I tape it?
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Mr-Cash - you looking for an RT??? I see them all the time.... lmk what you're looking for... i ASSURE you that i can find ya one! ;-)))
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

BPJ! Cool!
Drop me an E I am looking for a middle of the road car..one that I can have restored the way I like!
Mr. Cash ($$$,Traffic,Ideas...We have it all!)

*****
CB,
we only PRETEND to be debils
;-)))
Serge
*****

I know Serge...but be careful admitting that...word may get around! :)

Thanks for the info/help.

CactusButt

Well I have not had any problems with Standard, and I am a big fan of MoJo. He is a classy guy.
Mike AI

i know running a click program like their's is almost impossible with all the scum out there.......BUT....those terms and conditions are wacky.

mutt

MikeAI,
I don't think it's MoJo's fault, he is far from being sharlatan
;-)))
Serge

whoah, hey ladies, theres plenty to go around.

CJ..im ready, gimme 18 hours and ill be there LOL

Mike... shh dont tell anyone about our bayou games!


Problem with DN? hit me on ICQ 32469681

solving all problems!
grimm (Blow Me)

Serge..you will have to distract Tina for me for awhile! =)
*******************************

any time, any place and...
if I intice you to go to Italy this year-
I'll buy myself a medal!
;-))

you'll never regret it!
Serge

http://standardinternet.info/

I had no idea... this is a good use for that domain.
Mike AI

anybody have a link to a video clip of Tyson yesterday without any bleeping?

he is one crazy mutherfucker. funny tho.
mutt

Gotta love Oprano! Took less than an hour after posting to get the scoop...that is fucking results! :)

CactusButt
***********************

CB,
we only PRETEND to be debils
;-)))
Serge

Serge - in reference to the drug or gambling sponsor?

CactusButt
**********************

none of the above:
http://standardinternet.info
Serge

Thanks Fabian. Sorry to hear about the troubles.

I a'int gonna tell ya how to run your program, but I would suggest an email to your affilates explaining the situation. Something about stat pages being down for more than a week worries alot of webmasters.

Gotta love Oprano! Took less than an hour after posting to get the scoop...that is fucking results! :)

CactusButt

Mornin Oprano!

Bob-X... sweet car! I'm a Mopar lover myself.... http://moparsonline.com
Mr-Cash - you looking for an RT??? I see them all the time.... lmk what you're looking for... i ASSURE you that i can find ya one! ;-)))

BTW, does anybody know how to get in touch with Ryan Lanayne??? Please drop me an e! Thanks.

bpj You snooze..... you LOSE!

Fabian,
I didn't know you are one of the lurkers too!
;-)))
Serge

HEHE Grimm was mine first, and since he is only a few miles away from me, I can get ahold of him anytime! :-)

He is already my "partner"....



Mike AI

i am shaving your traffic.
:-)
****************

BobX, we always knew that!
;-)))
Serge

about Ron, and CE. loved them all and still do, specially Paul, great guy.
*********************

I liked him too...
Serge

Holy Shit Bob X!

The things you see when you don't have a rifle ;)

I often have have fond memories of a "meeting" of sorts at the Ynot party in the Clarion hotel at IA 2000 in Orlando about 100 years ago.

I had just started my hosting company (Spice Web) and was basically clueless.

It was Bob X, the head of Servint, and myself.

I think I used every cocktail napkin at the party taking notes, and those guys basically saved my company. (short lived as it was)

The next day Bob X was on a panel discussion with Joe Hollar, and they both had beers in their hands at 10:00 AM. LOL

We may not have had as much money (or toys) then, but we had a boatload of fun!

All the best Bob, and happy fucking new year to you!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (used under long standing license)


Mspice Bob X Saved My Company

don't be jealous! i'll share grimm with you!!
cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

CJ are you trying to make me jealous?? :-)
Mike AI

Holy Shit, the infamous BobX - good to hear you are doing well BobX...

Nice rides...
Mike AI

cleo, mine even has a holder for the remote

http://www.hardcorebox.com/internext-expo-2001-vegas-june/dscn5476.html

:-))

grimm, my house, now.

cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

Can someone from directnic contact me asap, i have BIG problem ICQ
124588247. or (514) 351-2873

Thank you
JMan

this message is to let the entire world know that my previous policy of not changing my underwear, but rather waiting until it rots off my body has been revised and amended in recent days.

it has come to my attention that this system which has worked well for me for years and fit my character and lifestyle perfectly, may in fact deeply offend those which i had often (and quite possibly erroneously) characterized to as "just a bunch of intollerent assholes"...

in their defense however, i can say that since that slightly modifing my own hygenic policy, my social life, standing in the community and overall "welcomness" where ever i go has seen a slight upturn in recent days. However, though the results do seem encouraging it is still premature to derive any concrete conclusions, i feel there needs to be further study to determine the veracity of my initial findings.

however, having observed this positive change and at the relentless insistence of my best friend Sparks - my sheep dog, and the 2500 people from the small town that was evacuated due to the presence of an "unidentified and possibly toxic gas" which was later suspected to be me as i popped in a store to buy a coke.

without debating the finer points of the illogical and irrational behavior of angry mobs of people displaced from their homes at 2am by whailing sirens, police and firemen with bullhorns screaming "you must evacuate this area immediately"...

i have decided to further amend, as well as implement new hygenic policies asap to further appeal to and placate those who favor general conformity to "societal norms" and intollerance over individualism and general uniqueness.

it was not my intention to change myself to confirm to the social standards and behaviors of those around me. Unfortuneately i have came to realize, that in this day and age of "tolerance", we still have a ways to go as a society.

oh... by the way, i am shaving your traffic.
:-)

ok, im all packed:)

where am i going? ;)

Mutt..i am honored:)
grimm (Blow Me)

Cactusbutt/mutt,

Casinotraffic originates from an adult family ;-) .. can't mention any names.

We moved our network last week and one domain was still on register.com. They fucked up with transfer .. bottom line is they refuse to transfer any domains and that caused dns problems. Signups etc are counting and as it is now dns is pointing to the right ip's.
You can hit it at http://216.130.218.43/

If any q's please email me at fabian@eventuresnv.com
Fabian ..!

CJ
ROTFL
I see you like your men the same as me, crossed dressed and wearing a condom.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...) Serge's other white meat

*****
CactussButt,
as a general rule,
the former adult guys opening non adult programs are good, and have very little complains from webmasters,
I personally only know of one bad apple who got numerous complains from non-adult webmasters.
Serge
*****

Serge - in reference to the drug or gambling sponsor?

CactusButt

Serge..you will have to distract Tina for me for awhile! =)

Single women and a Charger R/T?...I can't resist!
Mr. Cash ($$$,Traffic,Ideas...We have it all!)

ME?!? AIRPORT?!? =)
++++++++++++++++

well, what will happen if I tellya that 60% of the single women we see on the road want to jump into the car for a ride ? (seriously)

HHAHAHHAHAHA

it's called peer pressure


BobX

if you come visit, I'll pick you up from the airport in it ! Try to come in summer.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

ME?!? AIRPORT?!? =)

Although Serge may have me talked into Venice this year!
Mr. Cash ($$$,Traffic,Ideas...We have it all!)

i mean really trusted. Like CashQuest or RJB. I nominate Grimm, he likes gambling and he's smart and trustworthy. Gotta think Belize is nicer than New Orleans.


mutt

who? u thinking of Starnet?
mutt

mutt, do you think there isn't one? think carefully :-)
cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

Mr. Cash,

I got it here in Berlin, 440 R/T , 400 HP, nice smooth ride..... (no heater though !)

if you come visit, I'll pick you up from the airport in it ! Try to come in summer.

HHAHAHHA

BobX

can I borrow your blow up doll
--

cleo: julian and I on our honeymoon ... http://www.hardcorebox.com/internext-expo-2001-vegas-june/dscn5420.html

sure, i don't mind if you borrow! :-)))


cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

ya know what i've thought for years.
I wish one of our own, a trusted person/company from adult, would move down to the Carribean and operate a kickass legal online casino and sportbook. They'd make a ton of money and webmasters would finally be able to make some real money with gambling traffic.


mutt

And Serge,

about Ron, and CE. loved them all and still do, specially Paul, great guy.

But Ron, yer, in his own way, I guess he is a legend. Instead of surfing his way through life, he rammed his way through

hahahhahaha

Shaving ? the people who invented shaving in a big way was the Xpics dynamic duo.
We implemented our own "fairer version" later in cashcow, just because scott/timon/me found out how shit the traffic was.

[the sites with real traffic were getting a fair deal. zero shaving for them]

and just to explain, shaving was being done a session basis, we changed session expiration from 3 hrs to 2 days, and also on flat (non-revolving) proxies.

I applied this later to mostcash/2 etc etc. just to shed some light into it, you guys may digest it in whatever way you want.


HAHHAHAHHA


from the dark



BobX ce

CactussButt,
as a general rule,
the former adult guys opening non adult programs are good, and have very little complains from webmasters,
I personally only know of one bad apple who got numerous complains from non-adult webmasters.
Serge

They sent me to myovernightpharmacy.com. Any ideas what is up there?

CactusButt
***********************

CactusButt,
I think it might be the same thing but with different payout structure, worth checking into.

The old one was $60 per new sale, $80 bonus to new affiliates
Serge

Oplus News Update
*****************

Kimble.org Hacker Arrested in Thailand
http://www.opranoplus.com

Euro Pornstar Sponsors Pro Chick Volleyball Team

Police Fear Toronto International Kiddy Porn Center

State Lawmaker Seeks To Ban Prepaid Web Porn Cards

Studay Says 67% Of Korean Middle Schoolers View Net Porn

Mardi Gras Titty Flasher Sues 'Girls Gone Wild'

AT&T Drops 900 Billing Services;Big Blow to Phonsex Biz

http://www.opranoplus.com





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Morning folks!

Heads up to anyone promoting casinotraffic.com.

Stats have been down for over a week now, and all my links to them go 404...glad I hadn't made any money with them...

Serge - was thinking about switching them out with pharmacycash, but they are not taking new affiliates? They sent me to myovernightpharmacy.com. Any ideas what is up there?

CactusButt

but the REAL KILLER CAR HERE , in this country they already offered me 50k for it, is my california special:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

BOBX!...I am currently searching for the EXACT SAME CAR!

Mr. Cash ($$$,Traffic,Ideas...We have it all!)

Bob,

?SaD eiS negaS murraW
Colin Insite .. Simple, plain, English!

come on bob, enough about how good your life is;)

give us the scoop on CE:)

no seriously, glad you are kicking ass dude.
grimm (Blow Me)

Colin.. pick up this months edition, it is full of them. great read.

Teller is mad.
grimm (Blow Me)

BobX,

Holy Shit! What's up, man?!

Colin Insite .. New days like the old days!

You can't ever wipe out evil. But it's like this: If someone comes to your house bent on killing you or your family, what do you do? You don't negotiate with them. You don't try to understand why they're coming to kill you and your family. You kill them. That's what you do.
Colin FACT: More pornographers spell it insite than insight!

Risk means taking chances that may come back to cause you pain.
Colin One of Grimm's Links

Serge
I've seen that one, lol
Want to join in with Meni and me, could you bring some popcorn?

Cleo (to know me is to love me...) I've got a client to go fuck, er I mean go help

ahhh, lasagna was goooood !!!!

I complemented with nice german beer of course.

now I'm reading this, and I get to see a new millenia trend, writing backwards. make you a deal brainiacs, if you ekil to write backwards, then also klat backwards (talk the talk , then walk the walk)

hahaha,

Timon, I married a Japachik of course (same one you met I think), not a single argument in 10 years.... led to an uneventful marriage, and now a life of total comfort for me (and her I hope).

learned german ? well, my family planned for this since I was 0.001, so I guess I can understand what these square bastrages are saying. And I hope they understand me as well.

3rd round investika$h, well, yer, I now have a nice team, and we all share in wealth (legally bound, no backstabbing here), and our kompani just became profitable (very much so), and we managed to survive the non-adult .com malady, and come out ahead by a longshot.

So, now doing content delivery, distribution (with my software, which I managed to sell into the kompani), and we are now obviously collecting from the bank each month.

The adult action, well, I guess there are still some old sites trickeling along, but I am still planning to come up with a new counter just for kicks, to get the xxxcounter issue out of the way once and for all (so I can sleep with a FAT smile)

HAHHAHHAHAHAHAH

anything else, well, I am developing a "black project" (wwwroute.com), which will be a search engine based on "cpucredits.com" and "creditredemption.com", hehehheheh
(why buy 10,000 servers like google, if you can use the peoples' computers for free !! our motto...)

I'm also game for any cool project that makes cash, cause I like wot I do in a way, and my wife supports me with full massages and hot-tea/beer at regular intervals.

so, merry X-mas and all that shait, I am going to the NOC to build a new E450.


BobX
p.s.: what I drive ?
hhehehehhe, good question, well....
since there is Autobahns here, I had to get something quick, pic is in: http://bobx.com/adventures/germany/bobx_mobile/

but the REAL KILLER CAR HERE , in this country they already offered me 50k for it, is my california special:
http://bobx.com/adventures/round_the_world_07-00/bobx_mobile/

hhhehehehhe, it rocks, and no, I did not buy the gas station (yet).
BobX lasagna

Meni, Cleo,
this is for your eyes only!
;-))

http://www.darknet.dk/flash/fuckhergentle.swf
Serge

and finally, GOD

http://www.esquire.com/humor/thiswayout/020101_mtw_god.html
grimm (Blow Me)