And my answer to that is ...

There would be no United States if it weren't for the combination of those people. With that, I agree. It took a LOT for those people, founding fathers, to do what they did. It is amazing what they endured and struggled through in order to "form a more perfect Union"

But their struggles were no less than a man whose house was bombed, who was stabbed, who was arrested for driving 5 mph over the speed limit, who was jailed, who was assaulted, and ultimately who was assassinated because he "had a dream". These are all SEPARATE incidents!

And what exactly DID those founding fathers achieve? They formed a new country! But they did NOT form a free country. They did not form a country free from tyranny. Those things would have to wait a long time.

No, we can't give Martin Luther King Jr. credit for all that either. He only did a part, but it was great part. Nor can we say that Washington was really the "Father of our Country".

Washington and I believe Jefferson had legal Holidays for a very long time. Columbus has one today. Why not honor a courageous recent American that did much to bring about the new vision of America; the one that I was born into. The one we are defending in Afghanistan today.
Colin TGP2 Bucks

Was my quack of an eye doctor husband right?
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Hon, I look in the mirror and say to myself - Damn you look good !!

how right could I have been ??

;-))

Mark Help find my wife something to do besides shopping with Emi in Boca !!!

I think I blinked or something
Colin TGP2 Bucks

Mike,

I think you are with Peaches ;)
Colin TGP2 Bucks

Serge,

Sorry I didn't post sooner. That headache of mine saturday I guess
was the start of getting pretty sick. Dinner was wonderful as usual. Loved Emi to pieces. Can't wait to see you both again. And look at the bright side of Emi hitting the car...now you can have that scratch on the hood fixed that you forget to fix the last visit to the body shop. How did Zhora do at the vet's today??
Was my quack of an eye doctor husband right? Mark and I have been cracking up all weekend at the thought of you and Emi every 5 minutes checking Zhora's eyes. It was too comical for words. That and the grunting every now and then...
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Colin I am with Peaches on this. No doubt MLK did a lot, but how come he deserves his own holiday when Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, ( the list goes on and on) get none?? Not to mention Lincoln.

Without the founding fathers, there would be no United States.
Mike AI

Cleo, I agree completely. A long way to go.

There is something to be said about dignity.

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http://www.buildinganempire.com/wrong/abel2.jpeg
Colin TGP2 Bucks

Cleo, I love you, but do I really know you?
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

While we have come a very long way in equal rights utopia has not been reached yet. Just try marrying your same sex partner so that they can stay in the U.S. permanently.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Serge,

Hey brutha' I'll be heading down to your neck of the woods this weekend. Miami on Thursday... the Vodka is on me


Ok, I'm off to celebrate MLK day;-)


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Equal rights in housing
Equal voting rights
Equal rights in public schools
EQual access to public facilities

These were rights denied to Americans prior to 1964.

What twentieth century American did more to promote the idea and concept that we NOW consider to be American?

He was the ultimate champion of the American Dream and helped give birth to a new America, a better America, the only American that I have ever know and one I am proud to live in and would not have otherwise.
Colin TGP2 Bucks

Colin, I'm not sure about where YOU live but there's NOTHING in GA that's closed on Washington's b'day or Columbus Day ;) In fact, didn't they do away with Washington's b'day and make a "President's Day"?

Again, I'm not saying MLK didn't do incredible, wonderful things. But do you really think he'd be honored to have a day off - complete with parades - in his memory? The only thing I've seen that's resembles a true tribute to him is the Feed the Hungry program that started last year where the homeless can get a free home cooked meal down at The Ted.

Peaches

their words.

Fuck, I hate it when I do that!
Colin TGp2 Bucks

Washington and Columbus have Holidays too!

Personally, I think MLK is COMPLETELY DESERVING of a holiday.

The things that we consider American were things that did not exist pre-1960's. Freedom? Equality? Opportunity? While one can never completely disentangle the twisted influences of history it seems quite evident that Martin Luther King, Jr. was instrumental in bringing attention to the grave injustices that existed in the US.

Washington fought to make this country a country. The founding fathers said "All men are created equal"

Martin Luther King Jr. fought to make there words a reality.

A true american.
Colin TGp2 Bucks

mutt
*giggle*

i preferred hulk hogan :-)
cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

Peaches be right. If any black man is going to have a holiday in his honor it should be Mr. T.


mutt

I pity da foo who mess with Mr. T on Martin Luther King birfday!




mutt

colin, should have info in the morning (3am here)
will shoot you an e soon :-)
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MLK's family here in Atlanta have made him a farce. They call Coretta the "Professional Widow". You can barely utter a word MLK ever said w/o paying them a royalty.

And while he did great things, I'm not sure it warrants being the only other human besides Jesus to have his own "holiday".

In GA, the state government offices are closed, but most of the local ones (barring Atlanta and the suburbs) are open. Of course, in Ellijay, the police still have the old GA flag on their cars - we don't so well with change ;)

Peaches

For the past hour or so all of CEN sites including trafficcashgold.com site are down...
anyone know if this is anything permanent? or just server trouble?
asm0 Eh?

CJ,

Any news on the "you know what" in the "you know where"?
Colin

although this was written for 4women specifically, same rules apply to general porn ...
don't give away what you are trying to sell ...
cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

Cj, I have now! Know my favorite part?

"Human nature leads us to spot faults in the work of others before we assess our own piece of e-real estate. If you look at the above-mentioned situation, you can see clearly how it makes no sense to give away the same things as you are trying to sell and yet many of us still build our free sites for women with enough content to please a small amazonian tribe of sex starved women."
Colin Rumors that insite has an announcement today are ... ? (T,F)

Mutt, banjo music? Elmer Fudd? is this from the guy who won't even get on an airplane? haha

I guess we should play the theme to the A-Team since you are like Mr. T.... Of course I loved the A Team growing up!


Mike AI

colin, did you read this?

http://www.femresources.com/articles/forfree.html

i'm adjusting some points to relate to tgp2
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I want Kid Rock music on mine!

Well I'm packing up my game and I'm a head out west

Where real women come equipped with scripts and fake breasts

Find a nest in the hills chill like Flynt

Buy an old droptop find a spot to pimp
Colin Vegas Style Cowboy!

cleo, i experienced my first boarders while in florida .. i LOVED it ... i spent 2 hours reading the limited range of photography books ... sat on the floor and read about sexual therapy (took some notes on my pda for an article), read a few other things, and walked out with $150 in stationary and junk!!

cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

"MLK was the most influential man without political office in the last century. imagine what that man could have accomplished if given office, or at least been allowed to live."
I agree; but now all his good works are being corrupted by the Black militants like Jackson, Sharpton, et al. It is no longer a mater of equality (I'm all for that!); but one of revenge, racism in reverse and rule.
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Torone, I do not even see it like that. I see it evern worse, it is a matter of a few select "black leaders" ( you mentioned a few above) exploiting MLK, and their people to enrich themselves and their chronies personally. What amazes me is that so many blacks go right along with them.

I have no doubt MLK is turing over in his grave right now....
Mike AI

I'm looking for Amanda Hugnkiss
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Rachel's. Excellent food. The lemon chicken is phenomenal although not on the menu. Just ask. :)

I met Amanda there ;)
Colin Please don't ask ANYTHING! I have too many questions backed up!

surely the internet can't be the first generation of business idiots??!!

Oh, PLEASE make this a pearl! this is my favorite ever!


Colin Coming Soon!

hey look who's back, the Bayou Elmer Fudd. This board needs sound. I want banjo music on all MikeAI's posts.
mutt

"MLK was the most influential man without political office in the last century. imagine what that man could have accomplished if given office, or at least been allowed to live."
I agree; but now all his good works are being corrupted by the Black militants like Jackson, Sharpton, et al. It is no longer a mater of equality (I'm all for that!); but one of revenge, racism in reverse and rule.
Torone

There are bookstores, not the adult ones, that let you look through the books and magazines before you buy. I often go to boarders and do just that while I get something from their coffee shop. I often grab a large pile and then decide on one or two books and magazines.

But I also believe that the internet porn model is broken. Mostly by the large TGPs who insist on clean, fully nude, 15 pic min galleries. At least with free sites their have to click through a maze of ads to get to the free pics, but with a TGPs that can just click, see the free pics, close and click again.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

cleo, those are the examples i keep thinking of but none have done it in the capacity that they 'out sell' themselves with freebies ...
like, you get dirty looks if you eat 50 of those sample weenies (so i've heard) ... and with music stores, when you like an album you can't just leave with it ... you have to buy.

surely the internet can't be the first generation of business idiots??!!

cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

Hmmm CJ I see you online, you have always been Authotrized. Of course I thought you have been ignoring me. I am going to delete you on ICQ, add me back 22469165


Mike AI

cj
The only things that come to mind are music stores where you can listen before you buy and food courts where you can taste before you decide.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Hey CJ, how is it going for you?? One day we need to pick up where ICQ forced us to leave....
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fix your icq!! you still haven't authorized me!
cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

i'm researching an article, and i'm trying to find a bricks and mortar style business that has done what the internet has done with 'free' everything ...
the internet broke the 'don't give away what you are trying to sell' rule of marketing (in mainstream: free ezines replacing magazines, while trying to sell magazines on the site. in porn, tgp, news groups etc. in music, napster)

i've been thinking something to do with radio --> selling cd's ...
radio's play songs for free with advertising, usually, it tempts you to buy an album. but sometimes, they overplay a song and you hate the thing and don't buy the album. but, that's still not quite the example i'm looking for ...what's an industry that almost sent itself broke through free hype, apart from the internet?

cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

Cleo, Luna is holding a Pole, not a stick
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Guess she likes them really big.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Anybody want to rub some lotion on my sunburn and make me feel better?

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Hey CJ, how is it going for you?? One day we need to pick up where ICQ forced us to leave....

Cleo, Luna is holding a Pole, not a stick... ashame I am more like a twig...
Mike AI

who wrecked my horse????

http://www.theaterweb.com/feo2/images/quinapalus/richard_iii_and_elizabeth.jpg

;-)))
Serge

Mike AI
Luna loves sticks and owns a few herself. You can catch her entraining sticks at the Booby Trap,
http://cleossexlinks.com/xxx-tours/stripper/galleries/gallery.html

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Tanning nude with your legs spread apart makes for an unpleasant underwear wearing experience the next day.
*********************

...and they say there is no useful information on Oprano!

;-)))
Serge

cj,
one of those days we'll get C & D from
"Days of our lifes"
;-)))
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speaking of drama, morning mikeAI! how are you sweetie?

cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

PS: Luna is always welcome and makes for a very enjoyable passenger.


On another note,
Tanning nude with your legs spread apart makes for an unpleasant underwear wearing experience the next day.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Cleo, can you 2 give me a lift from the body shop?
Serge

Yeah Cleo, does Luna even like stick??


Mike AI

Cleo
http://www.rachels.com/restaurant/index.htm
Rachels is a steak house too


Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Cleo,
does Luna drive stick?
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Luna drives both and is equally good at both.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Cleo,
does Luna drive stick?

can she be a passenger?
Serge

cj,
one of those days we'll get C & D from
"Days of our lifes"
;-)))
Serge

Well Serge I'll drive your stick anytime then, but no passengers allowed.

Cleo
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great!

I'm on my way!

Richard the Lion Heart:
"Get me the horse! I give half the Kingdom for the horse!"

(--Shakespear)
Serge

My car plus my friend Luna makes for some good content
http://cleos-babes.com/galleries-by-cleo/corvette/nr.html

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

*smacking forehead*

today on oprano, driving stick shifts, corn starch and silver jewellery ...
cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

Well Serge I'll drive your stick anytime then, but no passengers allowed.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Want me to drive your stick them?

Cleo
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this is what I love about Oprano-
nothing but offers one can't refuse!
;-))
Serge

serge..sell it to me, cash money baby:)
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I'd rather take certifyed check,
printing money is easy nowadays
;_))
Serge

Serge
Want me to drive your stick them?

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

I'll even teach you how to drive a stick for free.
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NOTHING is free in this world....

every time I thought my stick was driven for free,
had ALWAYS costed me something
;-)))
Serge

Cleo do I get a ride in the vette?
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Sure Meni, but you don't get to ride me.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

stop falling in love with me!:)

serge..sell it to me, cash money baby:)


Im out, see yall later
grimm (Blow Me)

Meni
You consider eating at a strip club fine dinning?

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Where do you eat Serge?

Meni
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when I invite or when I am invited?
;-))
Serge

Cleo do I get a ride in the vette?
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Serge
Buy me a new Corvette and I'll let you have my old one for free. I'll even teach you how to drive a stick for free. In fact I also teach Emi how to park a car safely.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...) Cleo's driven school, sign up here

Serge I am optimizing my visit
So I figured, why eat lunch at like a regular place
hit Rachels, kill two birds with one stone

Where do you eat Serge?

Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Cleo,
I'd rather sell Grimm sergescash and cover my losses in vehicles
;-)
Serge

Serge
You can look at nekkid woman, listen to loud music, get drunk, wreck you freshly fixed car, maybe even get a DUI...

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Rachels for lunch?????

I am too old for that!
;_))
Serge

cj how shaggable am I?
Meni (The Golden Tongue)
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meni, you have a long way to go to reach grimm standard :-)
keep trying :-)

grimm, *wink*

mornin colin!!
i registered for tgp2.com board ... see ya there!

cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

Friday we are hitting Rachels
MikeW is in
Donny of course
Jim Gunn possibly (porn director)
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

jan 31 to feb 3
thursday afternoon till sunday morning
Meni
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wanna do lunch?
Serge

it was in body shop because I was dumb enough to bring it to NYC
;-)
Serge

And why was it at the body shop?

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

no, only the one which came from the body shop 3 days ago
;-)))
Serge

I had an ex that drove my car through my unopened garage door three sperate times. After the third time I decided it was time to look for a new companion.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

cj how shaggable am I?
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

silly russians;)
grimm (Blow Me)

NOTHING is better to start the day than when your fiancee hits one car with another....
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Serge
Do you mean she wrecked two of your cars at once?

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

i know her?
grimm (Blow Me)

juice is running:)

nah i got financing, im fine, check in hand:)
grimm (Blow Me)

i had a uk bird tell me on ICQ she was going to "shag my brains"
grimm knows her
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

serge.. i have to close on a house today. banks closed, title company open.


grimm
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need a bridge loan?

I am in the good mood, %1 a day will do it!
Serge

i am ready to put my award to the test:)
grimm (Blow Me)

MikeW, Donny was rollin' his face off Sat night at Cheetah
and hung with some of the Panthers
he was jumping up and down on Pavel Bure's shoulders
donny is buds with pete worrell
their enforcer
pete leads the league in penalites
he goes it
fights, in the box
6'6"
245
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

serge.. i have to close on a house today. banks closed, title company open.


grimm (Blow Me)

Uh oh .. The "Most Shaggables" are at it!
Colin TGP2 Bucks. the proof is in the pudding.

i like the aussies accent FWIW:)
grimm (Blow Me)

NOTHING is better to start the day than when your fiancee hits one car with another....

fuck!

...and how is YOUR morning?
Serge

Morning CJ!
Colin TGP2 Bucks. the proof is in the pudding.

cj..you know, any time, any place;)
grimm (Blow Me)

Grimm, I'm in!

(American Icons)
Colin TGP2 Bucks. the proof is in the pudding.

grimm, my cockney accent is very different to my aussie one ... want to hear it sometime? :-)
most shaggable you :-)
cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!

Colin..I should qualify that to american icons
grimm (Blow Me)

ok you cockney lass:)
grimm (Blow Me)

cj ..was that english

'elp. 'elp, me 'ouse is on fire!
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Huh??!!
put the pipe down boy!!

grimm, welcome aboard tgp2.com :-)

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I got a promise ring from a boy when I was 16. My dad went and got it appraised...LOL.

Sabby:)
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Grimm,

I Take last 1/2 century.

Gandhi was pretty phenomenal too!
Colin TGP2. Something new. Coming soon!