Sergey...Saw this in your mass e-mail
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RB,
first of all it wasn't mass e-mail,
secondary,
if you in the business of quoting e-mails not addressed to you,
let's talk about YOUR e-mails signed Kara...
how was it signing your e-mails by women's names and pretend to be a woman?
spill it, RB!
;-))
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 16:16:22 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46600
RB great seeing you this show for a new world record of 20 seconds....
You look great though :-))
Hope you are in good health, and look forward to maybe seeing you for a minute at the next show!
KB
Tue, 15 Jan - 16:16:05 24.94.24.167 Post #: 46599
you miser ;)
I don't think Joe is gonna be looking for a job for very long ;)
Tue, 15 Jan - 16:11:23 24.130.112.172 Post #: 46598
The war of roses is not in the cards....
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Yeap that's the only war us frenchmen can win ;-))
JMan
Tue, 15 Jan - 16:10:55 65.94.238.95 Post #: 46597
Sergey...Saw this in your mass e-mail
1) you might love each other today to death
(like JoeE and RB were in love and making cruises together,
and hate each other guts tomorrow)
Oprano eliminates this risk of spoiled relations
Never hated Joe's guts and any differences we might have had were not biz related.
Tue, 15 Jan - 15:55:35 64.175.99.210 Post #: 46587
*igga please. joee did not cost you a house by dominating the celeb nude market. joee simply was helping some foreign webmasters who owned celeb sites by marketing their sites for them at a very nominal fee.
mutt
Tue, 15 Jan - 15:49:12 24.112.37.86 Post #: 46586
This Joee thing is pretty crazy. Even though I don't know him, don't know any of the story, and his domination of the celebrity market cost me a house or two, I feel very bad for him. If anyone has the 411 lemme know. duaneCelebdollars
Tue, 15 Jan - 15:39:44 64.175.99.210 Post #: 46585
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:42:03 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46575
Peaches, send me that email ASAP please with name, address, etc for fedex.:)
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On the way, Todd - many thanks!
Todd's goodie boxes are better than boxes of Girl Scout cookies and MUCH less caloric :)
Peaches
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:38:23 63.147.224.5 Post #: 46574
KB,
I'm sure when dust settles,
joee will hit the boards and spill his side of the story.
The writing was on the wall and if you didn't see it...
as Bible says:
"eyes they have but they can see not"
;-)))
you probably hang too much on newbs boards
;-))
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:38:11 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46573
"let's start throwing stones,
I live in the concrete basement! "
Ok let me throw the first one...
How come no one is talking about Joe E's abrupt departure today from CEN????
Is it still a secret?
KB
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:35:47 24.94.24.167 Post #: 46572
very good,
so I can only talk on my behalf...
1) you are playing my silly game,
some anon brushed your Ego
(J. Low)
and you here like the button made 6 months ago said you would:
http://www.oprano.com/graphics/obait120.gif
2) my point is:
you LOVED my business practices as long as $3000 check was attached to them.
drop John "where is the fucking money" Cotac e, and he'll scan them for you to brush upon your memory.
you sound like a scorned woman, John....
who bitten your balls off?
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:35:05 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46571
Serge Like Mike I spoke my mind and Ive know you FAR to long to play your silly games...besides no other names come to mind.;)))
JohnIP
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:30:50 12.86.121.251 Post #: 46570
I don't know what point you thought you were making,
but now we can't put the giniee back in the bottle, so....
let's start throwing stones,
I live in the concrete basement!
;-)))
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:29:19 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46569
excuse me,
don't back out, John,
don't you have balls to speak your mind open?
whom else business pracatices you questioned, beside THIS MikeAI's partner?
c'mon, show the balls, throw some more names!
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:26:28 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46568
Serge My sweetheart.... MY ONLY point in the post is that NO ONE is above reproah in this Biz and overactive opinions should be taken with a grain of salt;))
JohnIP
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:22:03 12.86.121.251 Post #: 46567
you see, SweetT,
when I go, I go and leave no doubts whom I reffering to.
I said yesterday that I am not a big fan of JohnIP, want me to find that post?
I leave very little room for rumors
;-0))
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:21:36 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46566
good afternoon everyone,
Peaches, send me that email ASAP please with name, address, etc for fedex.:)
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:21:09 12.224.183.110 Post #: 46565
...and Oh BTW you intimating that Insite and the companies involved werent doing the right thing for the industry is a bit much given who YOU choose as active business partners..The BIG H (for hypocrasy) is hard at work on this issue my man
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JohnIP, darling,
I am one of MikeAI's business partners and therefore you are reffering to me, right?
(don't be shy, you are not nekkid...YET)
you, John Epp, had no problems cashing my checks from Serge's Cash,
and replaced RB's links because me and my business practices paid you MORE, on time, no bouncing....every week, like a clock.
as Webdad says:
"The whore is the only one who sets the price of the whore"
You whored RB's high standards for my low ones because of the mighty dollar.
JohnIP,
you are not addressing newbies here,
we know where you been, we know where you are, and...we even know where you think you going,
Mr. Money Mover man!
;-)))
Serge Birbrair, one of MikeAI's business partners.
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:16:30 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46564
MikeAI,
Appreciated! All in fun. :)
Jesse
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:11:16 65.33.12.25 Post #: 46563
So Mike what were you .... a judge during the Spanish Inqusition or Salem Witch trials.;)))
Your private parties in the past didnt have TONS of strippers at them...Your private parties during Mardi Grai dont encourage women to take their cloths off...were talkin about ONE GUY for 20 seconds with his cloths off!!!
...and Oh BTW you intimating that Insite and the companies involved werent doing the right thing for the industry is a bit much given who YOU choose as active business partners..The BIG H (for hypocrasy) is hard at work on this issue my man.
I think you need to take that fishing trip FAST;))
JohnIP
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:02:55 12.86.121.251 Post #: 46562
Serge
Who is Jesus, does he sell porn, is he straight or gay?
About to run some errands, but I want to apologize to Jesse for saying his head is up Colin's ass.
While I still diasagree with him, just because he states a point defending someone does not mean their heads are up their asses.
If so my head would be split into too many asses to count!
:-)
Mike AI
Tue, 15 Jan - 14:01:02 63.100.104.31 Post #: 46560
Serge is there a hidden message in my new tag that you would like to share with the rest of us?
Cleo (to know me is to love me...)
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Cleo,
as I just said to SweetT:
"What's good for Jesus, should be good for you"
;-)))
it's quote from HIM!
;-)))
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:51:37 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46559
Serge....before we move to the next topic let me say that I am not hitting anyone when they are down...I made light of one funny event that happened this morning, but not at the situation that caused it. The situation that caused it is far from funny....
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Tony,
I don't know why you took it personally,
I am not in the judgement business
(bullshit, of course I am! ;-)
but one thing about me,
when I pass them on somebody, one doesn't have to guess if I addressed it to him or not
;-)))
"Judge not and be judged not" worked for Jesus and works for me
;-)
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:49:46 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46558
Mike AI
Thanks, guess I should have looked at the checks signature, he really does sign the checks.
1) If I wanted people to look at me in disgust I would much rather sit home! There are plenty of people in SD who thing I am disgusting ....
KB
2) I am contemplating putting a urologist on the payroll!
KB
;-))
please add!
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:44:28 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46553
Serge....before we move to the next topic let me say that I am not hitting anyone when they are down...I made light of one funny event that happened this morning, but not at the situation that caused it. The situation that caused it is far from funny....
Now...we can move on to the next topic....
>>>RB is looking for GOD in this pic
I dont know why RB is looking for God at gameworks....I think everyone knows that God is in prison....since everyone that I know that goes to prison seems to find God.
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:43:29 209.51.133.114 Post #: 46552
Mike .. can you give me a quick response to my latest email?
Re: Vegas Casinos. Ask anyone that works there for numbers of hookers, drug dealers, anything you want. They know EXACTLY what is going on.
Colin GONZO!
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:41:48 24.164.20.236 Post #: 46551
100% correct.
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I thought so....after making my excuses to JimmySlits yesterday for not knowing he was 33% contributor to Ken's party,
I'm getting myself educated of who is who!
;-)))
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:40:36 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46550
"KB, you shuold really spend more time here, you are funny as hell!!"
Mike you should see ME naked :-))'
I'll be appearing all next week at the Funny Bone in Manchester , NH....
KB has left the building.
KB
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:34:48 24.94.24.167 Post #: 46549
I have never heard anyone address the hotel about the behavior situation. I mean does the Venetian tell customers when they book their rooms there that a porn convention is going on at the same time?
I recall the show that had the Jon Benet look a likes in the hotel, I recall walking into an elevator with an "I Love PORN" shirt on only to see a bunch of horrified Baptist mothers with their 4 year old's dolled up like Stripper Barbie's look at me in disgust....
If I wanted people to look at me in disgust I would much rather sit home! There are plenty of people in SD who thing I am disgusting ....
Serge is that a Pearl or what?
KB
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:32:33 24.94.24.167 Post #: 46548
I am contemplating putting a urologist on the payroll!
_____________
I think this has to be a pearl! haha
KB, you shuold really spend more time here, you are funny as hell!!
Mike AI
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:31:58 63.100.104.31 Post #: 46547
KB, you have no idea how lucky I consider myself... :))
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:25:24 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46545
Although I too find Colin's entire Neon Jungle thing funny as hell, including Naked Josh, Mike AI is exactly right.
Where porn gets into real trouble is when someone is exposed to it who does not want it. One of my directives for the adult aspects of my business is to make damned sure we never do anything where someone see's so much as a nipple by accident. When people have porn shoved in their face against their will, they react. This is why the industry catchs so much hell for spam and hijacking SE pages.
This goes for the conventions too. Once you exit the show floor or other closed environment, like a party, rules of acceptable public behavior should once again apply.
I remember the first convention I went to was whichever one was at the Monte Carlo in Vegas, probably 97, 98 or something like that. First thing that struck me was the behavior of the conventioneers around the hotel while mixing with the regular folks who just happened to be visiting the hotel that week.
I saw girls from the booths wearing outfits that would make a stripper blush strolling thru the lobby. Some of the bags and stuff handed out by sponsors had things printed on the side in huge type faces that were beyond embarassing. Yet guys were strolling around town with them. Don't put crap like "HAIRY PUSSY CASH" and encourage people to carry it around town.
Our business will never be popular, but we must strive to at least continue to be tolerated.
daggummit
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:25:19 209.86.17.59 Post #: 46544
Serge,
100% correct.
Mike,
Thanks :)
I was probably busy running along like a MADMAN .. the record shows .. but i will make the next one. :)
Colin Ask Colin
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:24:14 24.164.20.236 Post #: 46543
DJ,
Be lucky you are boring...
I am contemplating putting a urologist on the payroll!
KB
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:21:51 24.94.24.167 Post #: 46542
(besides the Insite party of course).
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Colin,
please correct me if I am wrong, but I was under impression it was National Net, PayCounter and Insite Party...
was I wrong or not?
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:21:31 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46541
Colin, I must have left gameworks by then. I guess I am lucky. :-)
Colin I am glad you came by, and I wish we could have found you sooner for the Oprano dinner. You are a valueble part of the Oprano team, we do not all have to always see eye to eye on issues.
I am just glad you did not bring naked josh to the PHB! :-)
Mike AI
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:21:15 63.100.104.31 Post #: 46540
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:19:32 24.177.208.229 Post #: 46538
MikeAI,
;)))
We'll have to agree to disagree.
Like Serge said, "Next topic!"
Jesse
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:19:31 65.33.12.25 Post #: 46537
For the record, RB made the announcement regarding Naked Josh at his party. It was his request.
Mike, Player Hater's Ball was my favorite party (besides the Insite party of course). I did much business there. Thanks.
Colin Ask Colin
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:19:18 24.164.20.236 Post #: 46536
Mike, If I may add,
The "Nieces" were extremely beautiful this time :-))
I had no use for them, wearing baby blue for the Players Ball got me more pussy than a gynecologist in South Beach!
I fell in love again this show....who knows maybe I'll join the ranks of you Mike and Sergey and get married this year?
Oye vey!!!!!!
KB
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:17:35 24.94.24.167 Post #: 46535
Jesse, I do not presume to speak for RB, and have not heard his opinion on the naked guy running around his party. I will let RB speak his own mind.
As far as lightening up, I think you are confused with being a professional, and a college frat party. There is time for everything... I guess some people cannot comprehend this concept.
Oh and thanks for illustrating your points, maybe next year I can send you a naked josh coloring book.
Mike AI
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:16:23 63.100.104.31 Post #: 46534
Smart move...
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Tony,
it has nothing to do with "smarts"
I was down,
and I made a pledge at that time not to hit others when they are down.
Can I hit?
YES.
Do I have to?
NO.
Whose side I take?
The side of BUSINESS, and MY friends who helped ME when I was down.
do we have NEXT topic?
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:15:09 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46533
Sad news indeed ;-(
Lucky Chengs was always on the dining list when going to NO. Kate and I had a great time the first time we eat there, food was very good and the staff was hilarious
Hope they find another place
RE: Naked Josh - and a step back
Our industry is continually evolving - the latest evolution is towards a more professional business like approach
It is long overdue and very welcome
Naked Josh is funny, in small does at the right time and place
Is there room for both in our industry, yes
Is the professional approach more important - yes
KB, I am very consistent on my beliefs ( at least in my onw little world :-) )
However picking up hookers as an indiviudal is a individual issue. It is not sanctioned by any program, company like other events are.
I am sure we all have skelotons in our closets, and demons we fight, I just think as an indsutry we should not be advocating, and glorifying them. It only weakens us.
But you do make a good point....
I guess I should have been haning out at the Venetian, sounds like I missed the action....
"nieces"... hahaha FUNNY!
Mike AI
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:12:15 63.100.104.31 Post #: 46531
Mike,
You should lighten up!
It is all in good fun. You are the one that must realize that it doesn't reflect on the industry in the least (good or bad). You don't know that by now ...?
Is RB reflecting negatively on the industry because he enjoyed it?
First, I think positive comments about the Neon Jungle have outweighed negative ones 20-1.
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SpiderMan comics outsell War and Peace 100 to one, so what?
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:10:21 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46529
Mike after reading your eloquent post, I wanted to add something else to the gumbo...
"Just like I think the Players Ball, those who publicly advocate drug abuse, those who have no ethics in business, having a naked fool running around does not advance this industry at all. "
Either does chasing hookers around the Circle Bar in the Venetian at 4:00am , and I saw plenty of webmasters escorting their "nieces" upstairs in front of many non industry people....do you think those people frown on Prostitution as well?
How do you feel about that ?
not stirring a beef but raising another issue that some people value different things at tradeshows.
Some do drugs.
Some get hookers
Some run around naked.
I have seen the same thing happen at any other tradeshow for AT&T or when I worked in the Aluminum Siding industry :-))
On a sad note, RIP Naughtia Childs. She was a friend that D$ and made a porn star at the age of 18. She was caught up in the business, addiction, and many other demons, but somehow I can't help but feel slightly responsible.
Even though people make their own decisions in life and no one forces girls to do anything they don't want to do, she was a little angel, and I will miss her.....
KB
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:09:26 24.94.24.167 Post #: 46528
Jesse, I know it may be hard for you to comprehend - since your nose is so far up Colins rear end...
Having a naken person, (does not matter guy or girl) in a public environment reflects poorly upon the industry, and those who sponsor and encourage idiots like this, must be desperate for attention.
I am an advocate of making this indsutry more professional. Thinking of it as a BUSINESS. This is not a hobbie for me, this is not a way for me to meet chics, or an exscuse to go out and do drugs, and act like an adolescent.
I am hear to make money, I go to the shows to catch up with old friends, to catch up on the latest with the buisiness, and to make deals.
I suggest if you enjoy people running around naked you come to New Orleans for Mardi Gras. It is a great time, it is a fun party, but it is not industry business.
Do you really think having a naked guy running around in public places, forceing it upon people who are not invovled in the indsutry and may be shocked by it really is a step forward?
Just like I think the Players Ball, those who publicly advocate drug abuse, those who have no ethics in business, having a naked fool running around does not advance this industry at all.
I could go on, but I have a feeling we are not going to see eye to eye. So you can hang out with naked josh, I will spend time with people who are working to mature the industry.
Mike AI
Tue, 15 Jan - 13:00:19 63.100.104.31 Post #: 46527
Doh! I was looking forward to the Larry Flynt interview with good ole Sergey :((
Martin Click Here Bastards ;-)
Tue, 15 Jan - 12:53:03 64.229.169.57 Post #: 46526
Even though I will now be delaying losing my "radio show virginity", I do hope Mr. Flynt feels better soon :(
Peaches
Tue, 15 Jan - 12:53:02 63.147.224.5 Post #: 46525
MikeAI,
I just don't see it that way. First, I think positive comments about the Neon Jungle have outweighed negative ones 20-1.
Second. How is it a step back. This is an industry that makes money from selling images of naked men
and women fucking their brains out. maybe it is a step forward.
Jesse
Tue, 15 Jan - 12:51:22 65.33.12.25 Post #: 46524
Vick I have been out of town, but I think I read an article about it. Funny, Lucky Chengs was a great place - it even had good food!
Mike AI
Tue, 15 Jan - 12:50:42 63.100.104.31 Post #: 46523
Bad news regarding the Larry Flynt interview.
Larry is ill and has been told by his doctor to slow down for a couple of weeks.
We'll be rescheduling the interview as soon as possible! Stay tuned...
Tue, 15 Jan - 12:50:29 64.22.133.123 Post #: 46522
I am sure I probably would have laughed too Tony. But in retrospect, this is a step back for the industry. Someone made an anon post about Colin and his Neon Jungle, and while I understand where Colin is coming from, I think some parts ( naked guys running around in public places with lots of people) were pretty embarassing for those involved.
But hey its my opinion - what do I know?
Mike AI
Tue, 15 Jan - 12:47:41 63.100.104.31 Post #: 46521
NEWSBREAK!<<<<<<<<<
"Moons over Miami"
Film at 11 ROFL!!!!!
--T
Somewhere in Miami I can hear the plaintiff wail.....
KB
Tue, 15 Jan - 12:46:27 24.94.24.167 Post #: 46520
I think that Naked Josh shit is funnier than hell. There is nothing like hanging out with someone that
has NO inhibitions. Would I do it? No. But, it is fun to be in his company sometimes. Side note: It's
not just a gimmick, he really likes begin naked all the time (not just another stunt).
Jesse
Tue, 15 Jan - 12:46:24 65.33.12.25 Post #: 46519
>>yes, but have chosen not to comment.
Smart move...I haven't said a word to anyone but I figure that with the Webmaster Rumor Mill it will all be in the open by 11pm tonight...hence "Film at 11" :-)
Tue, 15 Jan - 12:44:27 209.51.133.114 Post #: 46518
Yes, Ken,
I got e ....
;-(((
Serge
Tue, 15 Jan - 12:43:26 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46517
MikeAi ... Billy Please tell me this is not so ;-((((((
Front page of the Austin American Statesman for 1/15/02: Gennifer's
New Love Interest - Now a Lounge Singer, Flowers has Fallen for the
City of New Orleans, and It for Her.
She and her husband bought the old Kelsto Club (720 St. Louis "across from Antoine's"), a.k.a. Bogie and Me, and "more recently, Lucky Cheng's". They turned it into a piano bar, "so that Flowers, who was a singer before she became a television reporter and the woman who had an affair with the young Arkansas governor and future president, could sing any time she
wanted."
MikeAI....I will admit to you that looking back on it it seems rather cheesy to me, as well....but I also will admit that when it was happening I was laughing my ass off....not sure if it was the nudity, the alcohol, the cheesyness, or all of the above but it was funny as hell at the time! :-)
Boiled Peanuts by HiRise Entertainment
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Mmmmmm, boiled peanuts... I was just saying the other day how much I've been craving them. They're not very big here in the land of tofu, botox and plastic surgery ;-)
Tue, 15 Jan - 12:21:34 172.162.172.213 Post #: 46502
best way to get along with the neighbors is make sure they aren't very close by!
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How true! There are only 6 lots on my street - the one I live on, the one I'm closing on Friday, the one I'm waiting to go to tax auction ;) and the other 3 are owned by one person and are WAY overpriced and on the market for 4+ years. I can wait....:)
Serge - I'm honestly numerically dyslexic, but words and letters I can handle :)