Monk that is a good story...

I had some friends in NO who after seeing my success tried getting into the business and got mad because I would not help them. I was offering advice, but they expected me to give them traffic...

needless to say they are all out of the biz.... I guess they assumed if the lazy Mike AI can make money, ANYONE CAN without real work!


Mike AI Get EXTREME with your traffic!!

Serge -

You got it:-)


sharky MaxCashLive - We strive to Educate!

"Monk,
the mightier they are-
the harder they fall..
;-(("

Al hasn't fallen, he's just transcended into creating the largest adult webcam business...

who needs amateurhardcore anymore ; ) he's got per minute : )

KoKo Bastards tried to silence me! I'm telling Al.

Dammit someone switching the links.

Lee/Fuckedmaster,
Oprano is squelching me.
Brujah Bastards tried to silence me! I'm telling Al.

Serge,

most ppl think of ibill and ccbill when they talk about billing, but how many people remember first virtual? I remember having to call on the phone with a cc in 95-96 to get a passcode:))

BTW, I don't know if ppl know this, but as far as billing companies go, ibill is pretty old. there former company logicom, used to make bill modules for the major bbs systems in the early 90's, that is what we used to bill people who didn't have cc's, but used 900 #'s

sextoyking Sharky is back on maxcashlive

Grimm, don't make an ass of me, you lost alot of weight while back, how can I recognize you now unless you sit at 5K a hand BJ table :-)

Lee Noga FuckedMaster - Fucked of Fiction

Lee,
Al by a Very Long Mile.
Serge it's Mr.Cash for you! ;-)

Sharky,
just don't tell him I'll be listening and asking questions...he might chicken out if he knows
;-)))
Serge it's Mr.Cash for you! ;-)

Serge,

Who was first Al or FantasyMan?

Grimm is how old? Gee, seemed like yesterady when he was betting big hands on the tables in Vegas with RB and them [ahahaha].

Its all love Grimm, you know that
Lee Noga CyberErotica - ACITOREREBYC, the word according to me

Grimm,
everybody were getting 2 cents...
we got 5 BEFORE he had program for everybody
;-))
Serge it's Mr.Cash for you! ;-)

Serge -

I might have to take you up on that....

I'll look into contacting him.


sharky MaxCashLive - We strive to Educate!

it is funny how the price of traffic goes full circle (not if you listen to sponsors:)

but trust me, 2 cents is nice now:)

ps....read the small print;)
grimm Project Webmaster

serge...damn, i was getting 2 cents:)
grimm Project Webmaster

BTW,
he never liked or trusted me....

one day after a Big Piss,
I droped him of from our advertiising roll and he lost 80% of his traffic overnite!
;-))

he never forgave me that!
;-))

but...I love old log any way!]
;-))
Serge it's Mr.Cash for you! ;-)

Grimm, we charged Al 5! cents per click even before he started hsi first proggy and he LOVED it,
2 cents came later on and we still were managing to make $$$ with him.

Than Ron came and that's when the
real competition began!
;-))
Serge it's Mr.Cash for you! ;-)

"Monk...what does canada have to do with this:)"

Absolutely nothing, except that its where I live. BLAME CANADA!!

Monk it's Mr.Cash for you! ;-)

Sharky,
if you be able to get him on the show-
I'll do something I never done before-
I'll spam every board out there
for people to drop everything and come listen.

he, BTW, is an ULTIMATE marketeer,
I was watching him work and I learned from him!
Serge it's Mr.Cash for you! ;-)

Billy...why do you have a thing for me. Or is it the whole NOPD:)
grimm Project Webmaster

Uh huh - you're what, 22 or something, Grimm??!! ;)

Looking at the pictures, what ever happened to Chandy/Chandie?
Peaches
Mon, 16 Jul 2001 04:16:39 - IP: 207.69.7.65 - Post # 3397


I havent heard from her in ages.

not sure where she is living, what she is doing. I am pretty sure she isnt involved in Adultnet in any fashion anymore... at least not that i have heard


And i am getting OLD i turn 26 next month!

grimm Project Webmaster

Monk...what does canada have to do with this:)

Serge...clickcash was the first pay per click. I was charging up to 500 bucks a month for banner spots on free sited. When i switched to per click, revenues dropped, so i switched back until that gold rush ended;)



grimm Project Webmaster

Serge -
Isn't owning a house Fun? lol


sharky Is this a real webmaster radio show

Serge -

Maybe I should contact Al Hadhazy to get him on MaxCashLive.
I wonder what he has been doing since pioneering the Adult Internet? lol.


sharky MaxCashLive - We strive to Educate!

Sharky,
I don't know,
I am fighting domestic war on two fronts.

lawyers, shmoyers...there is a much more fearful enemy,
EVERYBODY should fear...

THE FUCKING PLUMERS!

Plumer # 1 finally fixed my shower after my threat to go after him personally in federal court in Florida for lost profits due to the hole in my office ceiling.
His position was-
I don't give a fuck-
my insurance we'll cover me.
It took me 3 days for his insurance to explain that they will cover his company, but not him PERSONALLY.

as soon as those guys left, the water heater installed 3 years ago
gave leak and I have 2" of water in the basement.

Plumers are scarier than FTC!
Serge it's Mr.Cash for you! ;-)

Uh huh - you're what, 22 or something, Grimm??!! ;)

Looking at the pictures, what ever happened to Chandy/Chandie?
Peaches Exclusive content for your members area

You old-timers remember the specific event(s) that led you to getting into the online porn biz?

Prior to porn, I was a C.A. in Canada (equivalent to CPA in U.S.) We had a client in the "biz" and once I saw their tax returns, I started doing research for myself. A couple months later, I made the leap.



Monk Exclusive content for your members area

BTW,
if your kids ever ask you who have done the most
for Adult Net development-
tell them Al Hadhazy.
They won't find this name in enceclopedia,
but,
HIS NAME SHOULD BE THERE,
he was the first and showed us all the way.
Serge Exclusive content for your members area

I was young, and needed the money:)
grimm , Project Webmaster

Hahahaha...

Grimm you told me that the other night when.... well never mind : )


Billy Exclusive content for your members area

Serge -

We have another MaxCashLive in a few hours.. Am I going to see your face there again?

#### MAXCASHLIVE TONIGHT! ####
Monday July 16, 2001


TIME: 8-10PM Eastern
http://www.maxcashlive.com

TOPIC: Alternative Revenue Generators
GUESTS:
VoodooChile from http://www.evidence-eraser.com
Sandra from http://www.adultaffiliateresource.com

We've talked about the standard click and per signup programs. Now it's time to talk about alternative methods to generate income. Our guests tonight will share several new ways to make cash as well as a few old & unknown ones:-)


Be sure to tune in at http://www.maxcashlive.com . You can log in our chat via our Java interface or IRC at:
server: forums.maxcash.com
port: 7000
room: #maxcashlive

See you at 8PM Eastern Time
sharky MaxCashLive - We strive to Educate!

I think I remember amatuerhardcore in late 95 or early 96, 1 or 2 cents a click or something
***************

naaahhhh,
not that early,
per click deals started in the summer,
3 weeks prior to CE,
and Al was using REAL counting proggy,
unlike Acess Log File like CE
;-))

hahahahhaha,
the early days of Gold Rush
;-))
Serge Dialers from Heaven

Monk,
the mightier they are-
the harder they fall..
;-((

Amateur Hardcore was colossus...
Serge Dialers from Heaven

Amateur Hardcore... those were the days. That was even pre-XPics.
ThrobX Find your best upsells here.

hmmm...

http://www.amateurhardcore.com

not looking so good these days.

Monk I recommend all there content, great for designs!!

Monk,

I think I remember amatuerhardcore in late 95 or early 96, 1 or 2 cents a click or something

Al, has been around the block.

sextoyking I recommend all there content, great for designs!!

Serge,

Is Hadhazy Canadian? What were some of his earlier sites? I may be getting him confused with somebody else.

Monk Serge thinks these guys don't have an affiliate program

Clickcash was the first per click payout system i used. Either that or CE's program, they were right around each other...


I miss the days of flat rate paid advertising;)
grimm Project Webmaster

Monk,
yes I am and I suck dick too!
;-)))
Webpower Rocks!

Long live the TRUE pioneer of this
business, Al Hadhazy and ALL his programs!

http://clickcash.com is the program Monk is so proud of!
;-)))
Serge the secret behind MaxCash

Mike,

just read the board. tried directnic.com from 384/384k dsl and dialup, all looks sweet dude:)

peace

sextoyking John Ip's programs convert like gold!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.oprano.com/synopsis.html
can be reached from
http://www.oprano.com/
for webmasters on the go and not much time to read.

Red does one heck of a job,
please give her a round of aplauds!
Serge , here is where we post "reader's Digest" version twice a day
Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:15:23 - IP: 12.89.182.203 - Post # 3312


Congrats REd.

is that available in large print for old guys like me and serge?;)
grimm Project Webmaster...

Serge..it is the shirts:)
grimm Project Webmaster

You guys are fast.


Monk Serge thinks these guys don't have an affiliate program

Serge,

You son of a bitch!!


Monk Serge thinks these guys don't have an affiliate program

Monk,
I have a feeling, somebody's watching me....
;-))
Serge the secret behind MaxCash

I am not sure if Lee even knows that Ron is one of the directors in RICK cabaret...
======================================================

WHAT? I did not know that!
Lee Noga FuckedMaster - Fucked of Fiction

CENTERFOLD
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: pre-recorded videotapes featuring adult entertainment. FIRST USE: 19851100. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19851100
IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S: collectible cards featuring photographs of female models for adult entertainment. FIRST USE: 19930500. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19930500

==============================
yep....certainly am aware....

videotapes and collector cards .....

MikeFold centerfolds.com

Man - a lot of you sure wake up early in the morning!!

http://www.freepornlist.com/miami99/20_18.html

Is a classic photo - Grimm any comments about this ??


Mike AI , Good games and great designs!
Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:00:19 - IP: 66.21.171.41 - Post # 3267


I was young, and needed the money:)
grimm Project Webmaster

NO chasing with ambulance, insurance much to expensive for that kind of wagon.

Looking into buying 30" blade sears riding lawn mower to chase webmasters, no insurance needed :-)
Lee Noga CyberErotica - You got gay traffic in your str8 traffic, hardcrank.com it out

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am not sure if Lee even knows that Ron is one of the directors in RICK cabaret...

http://biz.yahoo.com/t/41/6798.html
Serge
Mon, 16 Jul 2001 01:14:32 - IP: 12.89.182.86 - Post # 3326


yeah because of dancerdorm

but the Public Ricks cabaret is separate from at least two of the clubs. I think houston and definitely new orleans.


grimm Project Webmaster

mike, it was quick here, saw no prob at all.
dantheman Project Webmaster

Serge these are interesting too...

http://ca.us.biz.yahoo.com/e/001219/rick.html

http://www.edgar-online.com/bin/gethist/?doc=A-935419-0001015402-00-001938


JohnIP , Go Get YA SOME!!!
Mon, 16 Jul 2001 01:41:39 - IP: 38.37.73.199 - Post # 3328

interesting as in how, break it down for me, i have never read an SEC filing;)
grimm Project Webmaster

Was cleaning some stuff up on my server and ran across this. I want to work for these guys....

http://www.bbwbj.com/MVC-001S.JPG


Ulfie Gramma Knows Best!

It loaded A-Ok for me in ID :)

Star Gramma Knows Best!

Yeah I was joking. I hope.

GP Project Webmaster

Fold's only too aware of the things PB will do ;)
KK Project Webmaster

pretty fast from Canada Mike.

GP was definitely joking
mutt Project Webmaster

http://www.directnic.com/
light speed from NJ
Serge Project Webmaster

GP..you are joking right?;)
grimm Project Webmaster

Serge, I dunno what Luke does but I highly doubt anyone is exempt even if they think they are..Luke is so "gone with wind", and "Frankly, does not give a damn"...

Lee Noga , CyberErotica - Converts shitty traffic, make bank with cow pies!
Mon, 16 Jul 2001 01:59:49 - IP: 65.35.53.35 - Post # 3333

it does?;)
grimm Project Webmaster

*****
MikeFold , centerfolds.com
Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:02:38 - IP: 64.220.84.86 - Post # 3290
*****

Mike,

Surely you are aware of Playboy's registered trademark for "Centerfold".

http://tess.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=d6a4c4.2.18

The sound you hear is Lee Noga's lawyer chasing your ambulance :-)


Webfather, I sent you an email.

GP Directnic

From Lauderdale

Last Response Time: 58 ms

Highest Response Time: 58 ms
Lowest Response Time: 48 ms
Average Response Time: 53 ms

Total Number of Packets Sent: 10

Taz Directnic

Laods fast from my house
grimm Directnic

False alarm, it's back and pretty fast on my dialup.


Ulfie Democrats say movie goer voter bill has failed

directnic goes 404 here in Pittsburgh.


Ulfie Democrats say movie goer voter bill has failed

Everything loads super fast from here too. (Idaho useing cable)

Bet none of you have ever heard of Idaho huh lol


Ryan Got Toons? WE DO!

ok, so just who is this Carl guy from all the miami pics?
Ryan Got Toons? WE DO!

Looks good from OH.
mikeAI
on a 386 choked t-1
Forest Got Toons? WE DO!

http://directnic.com
Surfed around the site and reloaded some pages
Coming up quick from here in Baltimore

Vick Got Toons? WE DO!

Coming in on cable modem here in WI is fast as can be Mike...


TheEnforcer Got Toons? WE DO!

Ok, got a simple question (at least it should be)

How long after a domain expires can it be registed by someone else? 30 days? 60?

Jack Got Toons? WE DO!

Screamin' down here in GA MikeAi!

;-))
dokk ARS kicks major butt!!

I need a favor, http://directnic.com has recently made a major server migration, we are trying to work on speed issues.

I would appreciate if some of you could hit it and let me know your opinion of the loading speed of the site.

It flies from where I am at, NO with a UUNet T1.


Mike AI ARS kicks major butt!!

MikeFold,
I think that her have done for MaxCash more than any other factor,
without her you wouldn't have a site!

The girl there is the Original Kara,
before she had sex change operation and grew moustaches!
;-0))
Serge the secret behind MaxCash

not sure Serge...
I tried to find out myself (while looking for a date)...but..
i was unsuccessful
((o;

MikeFold centerfolds.com

http://www.oddinsertion.com/webexpo/mcc.JPG

what exactly the girl left from Aly does for Max Cash?
Serge My plan to fix the military

http://www.oddinsertion.com/webexpo/am1.JPG

this is good for Alaska travels!
;-))
Serge My plan to fix the military

http://hirise.com/miami/PIC00051.jpg

I like the one on the left!
seems like her shirt is a bit too small for her
;-)))
;-))
Serge My plan to fix the military

It IS misleading. Have them yell at me instead, I don't care.


Ulfie My plan to fix the military

http://www.oddinsertion.com/webexpo/bf03.JPG
Ball Fight

http://www.oddinsertion.com/webexpo/mcc.JPG
MC Crew

http://www.oddinsertion.com/webexpo/am1.JPG
Fashion Show

http://www.oddinsertion.com/webexpo/dkfc.JPG
DK

http://www.oddinsertion.com/webexpo/awa03.JPG
Grandma Porn & RB

These were all from WebExpo (Now CyberNetExpo) in Montreal

Have some from other shows but can't find them right now


http://hirise.com/miami/PIC00051.jpg
That SOB in the middle of the lime sandwich has to work in porn
Where else could a goofy looking someone like that get a job ;-)


Vick 9 brand spanking new sites!!!!!!

Chad Prater/Zebra, where are you? Time to stop running and hiding and pay your debts. If I do not here from you today, I will have no choice but to pursue legal action.
Brad Shaw 9 brand spanking new sites!!!!!!

Ulfie DO NOT SAY THAT - I only insinuated it and some people yelling at me in ICQ and e-mail.

I tried to explain if 5 people asked me about Miami, and thought I was exhibiting then surely it is misleading. But hey, what do I know... I will be in NO during the show...
Mike AI 9 brand spanking new sites!!!!!!

Fay said
********************************
Nope, I haven't got around to putting up the exhibitor list yet. When I get the MONEY in for all the contracts I have signed - I will. I usually don't list names until it is a done deal. I don't speculate.
********************************

You really should remove the list that is up there now or make it clear that it is NOT for the current show. I signed up partly because I thought certain people were going to be there and now I find out I'm looking at a year old list. Not a big deal but it is misleading.


Ulfie My thoughts on Hillary Clinton

Sorry Lee Lee...getting Old;))
JohnIP Go Get YA SOME!!!

No sponsors or traffic trades on fuckedmaster because we assume nobody want to play with us and we make no invitations...


Lee, just out of curiosity, do you a board/web site like that has the possibility of making money?

can me and Serge take it over?
:-)

JR CyberErotica - Converts shitty traffic, make bank with cow pies!

Serge, I dunno what Luke does but I highly doubt anyone is exempt even if they think they are..Luke is so "gone with wind", and "Frankly, does not give a damn"...

********************

Lee, you don't know Luke that well.

One thing you MUST learn about Luke-
he is LOYAL and doesn't bite hands feeding him.

sorry I took you away from your baby,
have fun with it
;-)))

Serge CyberErotica - Converts shitty traffic, make bank with cow pies!

Billy, BOARD time, is there any other time matters?
;-))
Serge CyberErotica - Converts shitty traffic, make bank with cow pies!

Hey all, my post about a great program was pulled earlier because it was somewhat spammy (i left a referral code link in the URL I pasted).

I felt its still an awesome program and if you aren't using it .. here are a few details of it.

It seems to be run by WebPower/iFriends. The webmaster program is called ClickCash. I don't know if any of you have non-adult sites and find it tough to get a good sponsor or not but this one is doing pretty good for me just with my 404 traffic. I was getting about 34 cents per click and they gave me a $50 signup bonus just to give them a try.

They have both adult and non-adult codes, banners, etc.. that you can promote. Its really pretty flexible. If there are other programs like this, I'd love to hear about them. Please do share.
Brujah CyberErotica - Converts shitty traffic, make bank with cow pies!

Serge, I dunno what Luke does but I highly doubt anyone is exempt even if they think they are..Luke is so "gone with wind", and "Frankly, does not give a damn"...

Lee Noga CyberErotica - Converts shitty traffic, make bank with cow pies!

Serge just to help people out..
2 pm whos time ?


Billy Exclusive content for your members area

John-IP, how can you forget Zmaster that exhibited at first show, how can you forget me and Pat in Ricks YNOT suite, you want to shoot Pats tits!
Lee Noga FuckedMaster.com - Even Jenna Jameson knows about it!

http://www.premieresites.com/woody/gbu/John.JPG

oh boy!
we were so young!

BTW,
the guys from Profit Plantation will be here tomorrow at
2pm
to answer ANY question you always wanted to know about DIALERS
and how their dialers work in
200 countries and show you daily stats, including how many clicks you sent
Serge Go Get YA SOME!!!

Lee,
he is not exepmt???

he is exempt @ Luke Ford....

there is a good american expression:
the one who pays orders the music!
;_))


Serge Go Get YA SOME!!!

...and of course my favorite Pic from the same gathering

http://www.premieresites.com/woody/gbu/John.JPG
Thats Stan in the background!!

Just to put it in perspective for those that dont know...this was really the FIRST Time those that started in this Biz in 96 and 97 got together in one place.This was the FIRST Hospitality suite...The YNOT suite that I had rented for Rick.That sunday night before the show it was packed with 40 to 50 people...thats really all that was involved in the entire online porn biz.Only Booths at the show related to Online Porn I think was....Cybererotica...Ynot...Janey Hosting(With Terri Wells as Guest)...Servant...Joe Holler booth.Ynot booth was a table a cheap sign and Rick had made up some loose leaf note books...manned by ...Fold...Bangwang...Me...Photo....Mark Burke...Rick and Jenna(Not Meni's Jenna).

Ahh the days;)))

BTW Fold stayed in a Red Roof Inn;)))

Serge these are interesting too...

http://ca.us.biz.yahoo.com/e/001219/rick.html

http://www.edgar-online.com/bin/gethist/?doc=A-935419-0001015402-00-001938


JohnIP Go Get YA SOME!!!

I am "dunno" lee, Ron is like oxygen, you breathe him in with every business deal no matter what room you hold the meeting in with no relevance to whom you met with.

Damn, new board is popular, ppl camping, we offer full hookup, electric, water, and sewer

As for FantasyMan and gossip, nobody dropped any off, he is not exempt nor CE...he knows I am not worth suing, so no pressure on me :-))

No sponsors or traffic trades on fuckedmaster because we assume nobody want to play with us and we make no invitations...

Full time job to be loser you know :-))

Lee Noga CyberErotica - Hurt FantasyMan, make him write big check to you! Make bank acct go to ZERO

I am not sure if Lee even knows that Ron is one of the directors in RICK cabaret...

http://biz.yahoo.com/t/41/6798.html
Serge if you need your designs done YESTERDAY

I wonder what Ron would do if there were some slanderous things about him or his company posted up there?
*********************

MikeAI, give Lee a break!

I believe her when she says she has no clue about CE business.
The other day,
when asked about CE settlement with FTC,
all Lee was able to quote was an article which was 3! years old,
while the latest settlement took place in May 2001
http://www.ftc.gov/os/2001/05/voicemediacmp.htm


Serge if you need your designs done YESTERDAY

Without a DOUBT I will not be at your convention Fay!! I PROMISE you!

I thought I was going to be in Europe during Internext, however some things came up to move that trip back - so I made plans to go to Vegas.

Thanks for being keeping up with my travel schedule!
Mike AI 9 brand spanking new sites!!!!!!

Just catching up on the board......

King Key : Ya snooze - ya lose (tm) - goes back a long ways - to my iniation with 'pissing with Serge. Serge granted me Oprano tm for this board :-) Lordy knows I earned it....:-)

Mike: you always say you are not going to a convention - as I remember, you were going someplace else on vacation, during Internext. I never count you out - 'until the fat lady sings ;-) you often excersize that priveledge of "changing your mind" that is supposed to be reserved for the kinder, gentlier sex. hahaha

Nope, I haven't got around to putting up the exhibitor list yet. When I get the MONEY in for all the contracts I have signed - I will. I usually don't list names until it is a done deal. I don't speculate. So, being so close to Internext - things are running a little behind my usual schedule (so what else is new?) I will probably be adding names to the list the day before the show :-(

I do look for a record number of walkin attendees because there are so many in Florida who will be attending their first show. There hasn't been anything there for a couple of years. Of course the regulars never do anything until the last minute - so I am quite used to it. (ThrobX - excluded)

Sharpie Sign up now and save - you know your gonna anyway.

Toolz,

Looking good, i've heard good things about your old HentaiStudios need to give that one a shot.

What's the best converting site in that 9 site line up?


KoKo Some affiates converting at 1:260 even after 40K volume hits..

For future references,
Red's e-mail addy is:
red@eroticopy.com
and she is Erotic Stories Major
;-)
Serge if you need your designs done YESTERDAY

BRAVO Red
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Forest here is where we post "reader's Digest" version twice a day

http://www.oprano.com/synopsis.html
can be reached from
http://www.oprano.com/
for webmasters on the go and not much time to read.

Red does one heck of a job,
please give her a round of aplauds!
Serge here is where we post "reader's Digest" version twice a day