re-post for all lazy bums!
Oprano's Exclusive
(haven't seen it anywhere before)
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The other day somebody asked:
"How come the processors report record sales and webmasters cry about decreasing sales"
how is it possible??
I think I have a partial answer to that,
came from one of RB's members:
>*** WE WANT YOU BACK !!! ***
>
>Previously, you were a member of one of our
>adult entertainment sites.
>
>During that time you had access to ONE site.
>Now, for less money than you paid for that one
>site, you'll have a membership to 41 full sites,
>including that first site that you joined.
>
>Visit this web page for details:
><a
href="http://www.maximumcash.com/cgi-bin/maxcash.cgi?id=I'mNOT_TELLING
how is the hell can webmasters make money when their sponsors begin competing with them and sell memberships for LESS than what webmasters sell????
This is one fuck up THIS COUNTRY never seen,
try buy car direct from General Motors by-passing the distributor!
I see this as yet another trust violated by the sponsor.
shame...shame...
Serge
Mon, 12 Nov 2001 05:42:57 - IP: 172.173.229.38 - Post # 32393
Serge Spread the word, spread the word!
Tue, 13 Nov - 06:20:32 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32500
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Very disturbing. I have been in several lines of business; and in all of them, our suppliers went to great lengths to avoid competing with us. Frankly, this sucks!
Tue, 13 Nov - 06:18:36 65.35.95.62 Post #: 32499
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I think this just shows what lenghts the "big boys" will go to to keep the $$$ rolling in. With the worth of a member dropping lately and conversiong being almost 1/2 of what they used to the big program operators are trying to keep the per join $$ where it used to be.....just not going to happen. BigDog We give the WHOLE $45!!
... 3 pages. so, what's new opranauts?
Tue, 13 Nov - 06:18:25 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32498
******************* cj, this is NEW! Post # 32393 what is your take on it? Serge Spread the word, spread the word! Tue, 13 Nov - 06:17:27 208.61.44.30 Post #: 32497 
you are almost as twisted as me.
Tue, 13 Nov - 06:14:59 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32496
******************************* Cleo, I always learn from the BEST! ;-))) Serge (Jettis, what do you have up your sleeves?) Spread the word, spread the word!
No prob with the tag Serge...
Tue, 13 Nov - 06:13:29 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32495
ForestLikesTags ********************* Forest, I killed it anyway...it's too old and boring, you can use "Forest" with no problems. Serge Spread the word, spread the word!
wow, what a day - almost 12 hours without my computer ... I chainsmoked and ... I went shopping.
Tue, 13 Nov - 06:11:42 203.164.206.41 Post #: 32494
so now i'm back, and i missed like ... 3 pages. so, what's new opranauts? i'm sitting here finishing off the kitty interview - oooh, about 24 hours away i'd say!! cj (vaginator) Plug our ezines into your paysite!!
Serge I just looked at your links page, you have a singularly sense of humor, you are almost as twisted as me.
Tue, 13 Nov - 06:11:02 208.61.44.30 Post #: 32493
Buckets of piss for all... Cleo House of Ill Repute
No prob with the tag Serge...
Tue, 13 Nov - 06:08:24 209.143.51.25 Post #: 32492
ForestLikesTags 
Torone,
Tue, 13 Nov - 06:07:29 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32491
my feelings EXACTLY, and what disturbs me the most, it's REALLY sad when once "leaders of the community" start "pushing the envelope" more, and more, and more, and do things they would NEVER even concieve 2-3 years ago... what's NEXT for our once "beloved leaders"? will webmaster find out AFTER the dick is in full thrust and deep inside the ass???? Serge Spread the word, spread the word! Tue, 13 Nov - 06:04:00 24.147.195.230 Post #: 32490 Tue, 13 Nov - 06:00:12 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32489
Welcome back, Forest, I missed you!
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:59:03 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32488
shit...do I really saying that??? ;-)) Serge Spread the word, spread the word!
"aren't you glad we haven't nuked them YET?"
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:57:43 65.34.116.33 Post #: 32487
well a few "small" tactical nukes and a couple dozen bunker buster bombs would fit the bill right now ;-)) Cybrglide 
Serge,
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:44:02 24.162.17.83 Post #: 32486
Very disturbing. I have been in several lines of business; and in all of them, our suppliers went to great lengths to avoid competing with us. Frankly, this sucks! Torone Tue, 13 Nov - 05:43:18 209.143.51.25 Post #: 32485
Torone,
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:36:00 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32484
I would be also interested in Independent opinion of...Gord who buys domain registration service from NetSol for $7-8 and resells at $15 to webmasters, if he get happy when the domains expire and NetSol offers the domain owners the new and direct reg fee of... $9. Gord, what would YOU say? Serge Spread the word, spread the word!
Torone,
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:29:15 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32483
I posted what I think of it Post # 32393 and you can form your independent opinion if the practise bothers you or not. Serge Spread the word, spread the word! Tue, 13 Nov - 05:24:19 24.162.17.83 Post #: 32482 
serge, Kitty said she isn't a tease, SHE WILL DELIVER THE GOODS!!!
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:23:04 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32481
mutt ****************** mutt, 5 years ago I had much better "storage facilities" ;-((( getting old is a bitch! ;-)) Serge Spread the word, spread the word!
Kitty said she isn't a tease, SHE WILL DELIVER THE GOODS!!!
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:21:28 203.63.79.120 Post #: 32480
***** the interview will be out soon and you can all hear me say it for yourselves!! lol :P kitty See Our Live Feeds here - Free Peek for webmasters!
talking of Confusious....
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:21:19 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32479
Oprano pays great respect to the wisdom of ancients and doesn't use "nukes" to clear up "ponds" with malaria "MOSCITOES", especially after seeing them "die" by themselves... ;-))) as I suspected...more business was done HERE than in the titty bars of Las Vegas ;-))) Serge Spread the word, spread the word!
"Taliban headed for zee hills! barely any fighting, just ran away with all their weapons to hide away in the caves."
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:19:27 210.84.85.227 Post #: 32478
ofcourse when they start to sneak out of those caves and shoot at ppl from behind rocks, its a problem :) kitty, you tease :P "My pics are everywhere I love the design lol!" there is a connection here isn't there. i've complemented you enought, so i won't bother with another here :) Corvo very nice Kitty. chick i just saw has nice long legs. serge, Kitty said she isn't a tease, SHE WILL DELIVER THE GOODS!!! mutt 
Kitty,
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:17:12 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32476
you do the right thing and market the feeds well... when are you starring webmaster affiliate proggy? Serge Spread the word, spread the word!
so what's new? world still spinning on its axis?
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:15:25 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32475
Taliban headed for zee hills! barely any fighting, just ran away with all their weapons to hide away in the caves. Man i don't believe this is the way people live. Like a whole other species to me. ******************************** mutt, not to poke your eyes, but was Confucious right 3000 years ago when he said: "Don't use cannon to kill moscito"? aren't you glad we haven't nuked them YET? Mutt, Serge Spread the word, spread the word!
Well serge,
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:15:06 203.63.79.120 Post #: 32474
what do you webmasters want for nothing???!!! LOL This site is to make money from surfers not give webmasters free porn - we get enough of that ! (or do we???) Heeheeheeheeheeheehe But it looks good hey? My pics are everywhere I love the design lol! I said " there are not enough pics of ME on that site "- now almost all the pics are me lol kitty See Our Live Feeds here - Free Peek for webmasters!
Mutt,
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:10:25 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32473
Kitty is feeding what women being doing well for the last 25,000 years... she TEASES ! ;-)) Serge Spread the word, spread the word! so what's new? world still spinning on its axis? Taliban headed for zee hills! barely any fighting, just ran away with all their weapons to hide away in the caves. Man i don't believe this is the way people live. Like a whole other species to me. meni, JJ isn't a good bs artist, too honest. She came on with the idea to float the idea that maybe her and Rodman might have something going on but she didn't have her heart in it and folded when Howard starting axing questions. And JJ's voice is getting lower. Not as bad as in Vegas. Does she smoke? I like Jenna, i'm not attacking her, just noticing her voice is changing. i gotta go look at Kitty's feeds. mutt  Tue, 13 Nov - 05:01:58 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32471
wtg kitty :)
Tue, 13 Nov - 05:01:01 210.84.85.227 Post #: 32470
nice job with the whole thing Corvo
Thanks guys for all your support!
Tue, 13 Nov - 04:53:01 203.63.79.120 Post #: 32469
In all honesty I musn't take credit for it. My partner (who as always shall remaain anonymous) did it along with help from all the best guys out there right now. It took us 8 mnonths just to set it up - working 20 + hours aa day - battling OZ telephone companies and dealing with sooooo many hassles. Never seeing each other and being very stressed abou t it. Maybe now we can sit back and retire!!! PS - I was on the feed jutst a few min ago!! lol kitty See Our Live Feeds here - Free Peek for webmasters!
Okay anyone who wants to have a peek at the girls and the set up hit the link below.
Tue, 13 Nov - 04:47:02 203.63.79.120 Post #: 32468
We have not set up the webmaster affiliate yet - but we'll have it really soon!! kitty See Our Live Feeds here - Free Peek for webmasters!
Jim, Deb, Cleo,
Tue, 13 Nov - 04:46:22 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32467
you are in! guys with links to Oprano, please send me your URL's! Serge Spread the word, spread the word! 
Hey Kitty...can't get to the webmaster area to take a peek?
Tue, 13 Nov - 04:41:43 65.35.95.62 Post #: 32466
Also,Cj...if you are around please shoot me an E. I have a question about your stats. BigDog We give the WHOLE $45!!
Congrads Kitty on a job well done.
Tue, 13 Nov - 04:39:56 65.94.232.216 Post #: 32465
Australia as a bunch of beautifull and SMART girls ;-)) Have a nice 1 Oprano ;-) Jean-Francois
Mutt, I know, I think the appearance sucked, I hate Rodman.
Tue, 13 Nov - 04:30:38 24.147.195.230 Post #: 32464
There's nothing going on between them, but Stern hoped something was there. Notice how vague JJ was? Meni (The Golden Tongue)
congrats kitty on the club going live :)
Tue, 13 Nov - 03:46:12 210.84.87.111 Post #: 32463
Corvo Tue, 13 Nov - 03:19:04 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32462 
I started Oprano's new section
Tue, 13 Nov - 03:18:10 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32461
and would like to put everybody who have links back to Oprano there. what you see is just a template (from the good 'ole days ;-) Please e-mail me the URL's where the Oprano's bauttons are and I'll add you right away! ahhhh....nice to be just a webmaster again! fingers missed the coding ;-))) Serge Spread the word, spread the word!
I think icq must be fucked up on my laptop or something, maybe I should get a different # for this machine..
Tue, 13 Nov - 03:17:04 63.25.201.196 Post #: 32460
you can reach me at the tropicana in vegas, room 2063 dig
Dig,
Tue, 13 Nov - 03:12:48 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32459
I hit you on ICQ, by 2x4, no answer.... let me know when you are thru practicing "belly button inside licking maneuver" ;-))) Serge
hey Serge, hit me up on icq if you would, I'm on the laptop and don't have you on this machine
Tue, 13 Nov - 02:48:59 63.25.201.196 Post #: 32458
dig420 spamming from Vegas
Serge, I think we should dumb all of our money into their picks one week... we could retire!!
Tue, 13 Nov - 02:23:32 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32457
Mike AI ************************ been there, done that, get bored to death! Forest is still around? that's a surprise, I was sure he was on the mission to capture bin laden all by himself and claim 10 mils reward... Serge 
Serge, I am bver upset that I didn't get to hear your voice on radio today. :(
Tue, 13 Nov - 02:19:26 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32456
*************************** Kitty, congratulations on the feeds, NOTHING gives one more satisfaction than the completion of the project, mazal tov! as for voice- Lisa summed it up- if she was a bloke- she'd get a woody! ;-))) Serge
Serge, I am sure he would not! ;-)
Tue, 13 Nov - 02:15:15 172.173.228.196 Post #: 32455
*********************************** good answer! ;-))) *********************************** But, if an advertiser that was about to stop, and his intervention prevented that, would THAT be bad? *********************************** huh? do you believe for one second that advertisers there for the view and not the results? I don't know a single sponsor who is there just because Webfather has a cute hair cut ;-))) Serge
Okay here we go !!!!
Tue, 13 Nov - 00:46:02 203.63.79.120 Post #: 32454
Our Feeds just went LIVE!!!!!! what a great sigh of relief!! I am thinking about making a guest appearnce there tonight! kitty Adult Cafe Live
Hey all!
Mon, 12 Nov - 23:49:40 203.63.79.120 Post #: 32453
Serge, I am bver upset that I didn't get to hear your voice on radio today. :( My connection at home is still down (bloody testra) I like the little cartoon for pusi.com! ;) kitty sexcontents
kimmykim Meni GreekFold Lord Baltimore SykkBoy RB Shok Forest RichC Vick
Mon, 12 Nov - 23:09:21 66.21.160.147 Post #: 32452
All of you are kicking MAJOR ass... Oprano Football Pick'em is close as can be!!! Serge, I think we should dumb all of our money into their picks one week... we could retire!! Mike AI Get the latest news from the industry...  Lots of big news today, most of it tragic - but what is going under-reported is that the taliban has fled from Kabul. This seems like an interesting twist, maybe they are setting up an ambush? I think more then likely, they are going to hide in the mountains and try and fight a guerilla war. It seems like they were all bunking out of town before dawn... too bad we could not turn that road into another "Highway of Death" like we did the IRaqi soldier leaving Kuwait city! Mike AI Get the latest news from the industry...
Colin your email is bouncing
Mon, 12 Nov - 23:01:50 24.39.25.107 Post #: 32450
grimm Meni cum ...... no thanks. Week Nine Results in the Oprano NFL Pickem Challenge now Final! http://www.opranoplus.com Meni Jenna didn't even plug ClubJenna once today. What's up between her and Rodman? Sounds like nothing. mutt Week Nine Final Update of NFL Pickem Up!
*tosses a box of Kleenex at Meni*
Mon, 12 Nov - 21:49:54 61.9.208.141 Post #: 32448
Clean up after yourself eh? ;) Lisa Peefer Porn, Emfer Mega, Beefer Bucks Mon, 12 Nov - 21:49:26 24.39.25.107 Post #: 32447  Mon, 12 Nov - 21:40:35 24.147.195.230 Post #: 32446
strike that last Q Serge,
Mon, 12 Nov - 21:17:24 65.34.116.33 Post #: 32445
I got it, flying on our link sites webmaster submission pages Cybrglide
Thanks, Serge! Yup, I'm sure Sweet's non-pussies are cool. If you know anyone who could make use of my email exchange please let me know. I'm just indulging for entertainment purposes. :)
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:58:23 148.78.245.20 Post #: 32444
Old Tom
Serge, where is that big Oprano banner ?
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:55:21 65.34.116.33 Post #: 32443
Cybrglide
Serge, I am sure he would not! ;-)
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:49:37 24.183.96.41 Post #: 32442
But, if an advertiser that was about to stop, and his intervention prevented that, would THAT be bad? ;-) fatbaby 
hhaahahhahahah!
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:45:09 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32441
from Voltar's Board Spammer beware..... or I'll tell how your momma swallowed what would have been your big brother! ..I use to be a Buick you know! VBB The VNWR Board Bot (The Ghost of VNWR) OT Scripts Message # 15124 127.0.0.1 Mon Nov 12 21:26:54 2001 Serge ;-))))
Serge - I'm blind cc'ing you on the next round of email exchange with 9001.com. Those are the guys who want to lease you bazillions of hotlinked pics, cheap.
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:42:59 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32440
***************************** Tom, I will not get in the middle of this, I am not Sheriff, and content providers we dealing with are more than capable taking care of themselves. Sweet's are not exactly pusies ;-))) Serge Mon, 12 Nov - 20:40:23 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32439
Serge - I'm blind cc'ing you on the next round of email exchange with 9001.com. Those are the guys who want to lease you bazillions of hotlinked pics, cheap.
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:39:26 148.78.245.20 Post #: 32438
He wants me to keep the password secret, and they're based in Vancouver BC, so I'm not going to post the secret confidential password to the hotlinked-pic database here. :-) Old Tom Mon, 12 Nov - 20:38:22 65.92.61.49 Post #: 32437  Mon, 12 Nov - 20:37:34 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32436
You are doing Oprano readers a service, sparking debate, shining flashlight in dark corners, webmasters can make up their own conclusions.
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:34:43 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32435
************************* yeap! and let me assure you, the next lobster tail we break (compliments of http://extremegreen.com ;-) will not taste any different, regardless if Sharky agrees with me or not. Serge
fatbaby,
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:32:13 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32434
you answered one question, so I have another. Oprano is ad broker (affiliate) for Webfather's board, we sell advertising on it and get paid comissions. can you concieve Webfather going behind Oprano's back and selling ads direct to the people he knows as well as I do (some even better)? we don't have written contracts, we even ddin't have a handshake on the deal (we were 1200 miles apart when it all started, phone call was it all it took) can you????? Serge i hear ya serge. You are doing Oprano readers a service, sparking debate, shining flashlight in dark corners, webmasters can make up their own conclusions. mutt
Serge... this is not something new for MaxCash... if memory serves me, there was discussion about it early in the year on their board....
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:28:03 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32432
********************************* I was in Italy earlier this year, I probably missed it, so what? good things and business practices are worth repeating over and over again! Serge 
Serge, I didn't like RB's comment about 'percieved value' of this board either. But I do think Maxcash is as reputable as any program on th adult Net.
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:25:33 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32431
mutt ********************* mutt, of course they are! all people we know have reputations, therefore they are reputable. RB ALWAYS had reputation preceeding him, and nothing wrong with that. I brought the fact. I posted my comments on the fact. I will not bend anybody's hands to agree with my opinions, EVERYBODY have rights to their own...even ill reputed me ;-))) Serge
I'm not trying to pile on maxcash. They've always run a solid program. That being said, I'll go back to my Schwinn example earlier. Once the dealer sells you a bike does Schwinn try to take all future sales away from their distributors by undercutting them? I don't think so. They may send you promotional material but it will be designed to get you back to the dealer.
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:24:06 24.4.252.4 Post #: 32430
Ulfie
Serge... this is not something new for MaxCash... if memory serves me, there was discussion about it early in the year on their board....
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:22:43 24.183.96.41 Post #: 32429
and are you saying that they are the ONLY one doing something similar? I know thats not the case! ;-) fatbaby
I agree with Sharkey also.. we are talking about a pay per signup program here... They paid me for that signup once, now its their job to retain that sufer as long as possible, so they can pay me for the next one, even if that one is only a trial...
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:20:59 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32428
************************** fatbaby, than I have a multiple choice for you: if this all so fucking cool and ingenious, 1) how come MaxCash NEVER done anything like it before FTC? when RB was a King of the Hill? after you answer this one- I'll ask the next.... Serge (Jettis, what do you have up your sleeves?) Serge, Well you are right. This is the type of thing, even though I think there is nothing wrong with it, that you don't exactly want to make public because i'm sure there are webmasters who would agree with you and take their biz elsewhere. Serge, I didn't like RB's comment about 'percieved value' of this board either. But I do think Maxcash is as reputable as any program on th adult Net. mutt 
Btw Serge.. I thought you were very understandable in chat tonight.. you should conduct online inverviews more often.. hell.. could even try BEING interviewd! ;-)
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:18:15 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32426
fatbaby ***************** fatbaby, I thank George W Bush. I heard his speech on the radio he gave at UN and what struck me was: he spoke slow and I had no problems understanding EVERY WORD HE SAID... I took note Serge
I'd like to put a poll on OpranoPlus about it but not sure how to word it.
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:15:35 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32425
************************ my english as good for this kind of questions... print this: >*** WE WANT YOU BACK !!! *** > >Previously, you were a member of one of our >adult entertainment sites. > >During that time you had access to ONE site. >Now, for less money than you paid for that one >site, you'll have a membership to 41 full sites, >including that first site that you joined. > >Visit this web page for details: ><a href="http://www.maximumcash.com/cgi-bin/maxcash.cgi?id=I'mNOT_TELLING how is the hell can webmasters make money when their sponsors begin competing with them and sell memberships for LESS than what webmasters sell???? 1) very easy, it helps sales and webmasters come up as a winner 2) very hard, but webmaster still come up as a winner, because RB loves webmaster 3) who cares? some people equal LOVE to FUCK as both lead to the same result I can think of more questions, LMK if my help needed ;-))) Serge
I agree with Sharkey also.. we are talking about a pay per signup program here... They paid me for that signup once, now its their job to retain that sufer as long as possible, so they can pay me for the next one, even if that one is only a trial...
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:12:18 24.183.96.41 Post #: 32424
NOW.. if we were talking rev share, there would be a different viewpoint shared! ;-) Btw Serge.. I thought you were very understandable in chat tonight.. you should conduct online inverviews more often.. hell.. could even try BEING interviewd! ;-) fatbaby
Mutt,
Mon, 12 Nov - 20:09:36 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32423
one small question to you.... if Maxcash thought it is OK, how come none of their reps http://pics.sinfulmale.com/mcnews/staff2.gif said anything about it? if you can find me ANYWHERE on ANY board their reps talking about this "new innitiative" -I'll buy your argument. do you think it's a coincedense that the mailer been sent while webmasters party in Las Vegas? what would Drudge Report say? Serge good debate. I'd like to put a poll on OpranoPlus about it but not sure how to word it. Right now, I am siding with Maxcash, I think they have already paid the webmaster/salesman for his work and what happens after is their business. But i do see Serge's points. mutt 
whoops, I forgot the URL...
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:42:46 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32421
Serge MikeFold's new look!
Sharky just ICQ'd me that he left office and heading home,
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:40:07 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32420
so we'll continue the topic tomorrow.... and BTW, I personally love MikeFold's new look! ;-))) Serge
Serge...
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:39:26 66.13.17.242 Post #: 32419
I never said "fuck the salesman." The key thing here is what was the agreement in the beginning? If I run a webmaster program, should I be able to have freesites of my own and send traffic to them? Hold your thoughts.. I'm going home for the evening.. we'll talk tomorrow:-) sharky Design to rattle your brain!
you see, Blondy,
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:38:16 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32418
this is exact reason Sharky does what he pleases on Oprano, he can bring topics and even defend his opinions well. and that's what makes a GREAT Gumbo! ;-))) Serge
Manufacturers are opening their own stores all over the place and it would piss me off if i was a store buying Nike products and then they open up their own store in the same mall i'm in.
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:36:01 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32417
**************************** they might but... they won't sell the product CHEAPER! it's in every manufacturer contract, but... who the hell makes conracts with affiliates? they are just cannon meat! Serge 
Sharky,
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:33:36 172.143.33.194 Post #: 32416
good points and arguments, indeed. """""""""""""""""""""""""" I was offered a BIG discount on a new expedition near the end of my lease. I doubt the salesman who sold me the first one got credit for the 2nd one.... """"""""""""""""""""""""""" is a clecncher.....you right... FUCK THE SALESMAN, who the fuck cares about him????? Serge Mon, 12 Nov - 19:33:09 66.21.160.147 Post #: 32415 Mon, 12 Nov - 19:32:20 66.13.17.242 Post #: 32414 Manufacturers are opening their own stores all over the place and it would piss me off if i was a store buying Nike products and then they open up their own store in the same mall i'm in. mutt
"do you have comission sales force? "
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:26:23 66.13.17.242 Post #: 32412
No. I don't. Serge, My point in posting to you is that MANY companies(adult and non-adult) contact their customers and former customers to try and upsell them or get their business back. They do this by offering incentives... a discounted membership ... a shirt ... a chance at a trip to hawaii, etc. Albeit this doesn't apply to every industry. Your talk about being offered 41 cars for the price of one is example. It's more economical to offer a 41 site for 1 price $40 membership than it is to offer 41 cars for the price of one. However.. I was offered a BIG discount on a new expedition near the end of my lease. I doubt the salesman who sold me the first one got credit for the 2nd one.... Now, I am not posting on behalf of Maxcash, these are my own opinions. When a webmaster sends a member/signup to a sponsor, they get paid for that signup. they don't get paid for any of the upsells in the members area or any other source of income from that member. Many paysites have cross-sells within their members area to try and convince members to sign up to more than one site. Their is nothing wrong with that in my book. You are coming from the mindset that a webmaster could in turn send that same surfer (even a few months later) to another paysite of that sponsor and they will sign up. That COULD happen, but why shouldn't the sponsor have the right to solicit future business from someone they have already paid for? Your thoughts would work if we were talking about a partbership program like a 50/50 or 60/40.... but not a a pay per signup program. am I wrong? sharky click Me - Find out more!!! 
Ulfie,
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:24:26 172.173.229.38 Post #: 32411
I drink Swanson Merlot... http://www.swansonvineyards.com/ $29.995 retail. guess how much discount you can get buying direct from Winery???? NONE!!!! it's a taboo to undercut your distributors and retailers, BIG TABOO! I don't know anybody besides MaxCash who is doing it, on the net and off the net. I guess MaxCash webmaster is just VERY SPECIAL.... Serge
Ulfie,
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:24:23 172.173.229.38 Post #: 32410
I drink Swanson Merlot... http://www.swansonvineyards.com/ $29.995 retail. guess how much discount you can get buying direct from Winery???? NONE!!!! it's a taboo to undercut your distributors and retailers, BIG TABOO! I don't know anybody besides MaxCash who is doing it, on the net and off the net. I guess MaxCash webmaster is just VERY SPECIAL.... Serge
HAHA Good point Ulfie.
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:18:01 66.21.160.147 Post #: 32409
However, I think we should contact Schwin and sell direct! http://www.schwinn-direct.com/ is available!! :-)) Mike AI Get the latest news from the industry...
Mutt, playboy is more concerned about protecting their precious image than making money. Why do you think hustler is kicking their ass?
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:13:42 24.4.252.4 Post #: 32408
I've gotta agree with Serge. When you sell through a distributor network it is suicide to undercut your distributors. I just went to http://www.schwinn.com/ , can you buy a bike there. NO, because they sell through their distributors and they would go nuts if Schwinn started undercutting them. Ulfie
will you ever undercut your webmasters going behind their backs?
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:13:07 65.92.61.49 Post #: 32407
Serge ################ No, i dont want to feel the Oprano wrath. :) Gary 5 cent text links 
Has Playboy ever put out any feelers to anybody in the adult web community?
Mon, 12 Nov - 19:02:53 172.173.229.38 Post #: 32406
*********************** of course they did! they asked: MikeFold, Terry (former Playboy Centrefold) and Janey Hosting..... in court! Mutt, this story made a big splash on the 'ole YNOT ;-))) Serge i missed posting this story about Playboy's financial future last week. They have 96,000 members to their paysite. They are still losing 15 million dollars a year on the Web. How? Has Playboy ever put out any feelers to anybody in the adult web community? Do they think they are above the rest of the Net porners? Playboy is on the right track, they bought 3 hardcore porn TV channels. I would buy this stock. Good future. They just have to start making money online. Somebody needs to show them the way. mutt News from the Front and Back and Upside Down adn Sideways Too!
Mainstream businesses do the same thing...
Mon, 12 Nov - 18:59:21 172.173.229.38 Post #: 32404
sharky ******************* Sharky, please name me ONE manufacturer who undercuts their distributor....in ANY business, adult or non adult, and FYI, you are talking to a sale rep who spent 2 years at NeoRay in NYC selling lighting fixtures across the globe and delt with contractors, distributors, reps, etc this is OPRANO, back it up, my friend if you can Serge
Gary, it's done, coded and all it needs now is a good srtess test and Tom is doing it as we speak.
Mon, 12 Nov - 18:51:02 172.173.229.38 Post #: 32403
will you ever undercut your webmasters going behind their backs? Serge Mon, 12 Nov - 18:48:52 65.92.61.49 Post #: 32402 Mon, 12 Nov - 18:33:27 172.173.229.38 Post #: 32401 |