Hi Oprano Mark from Paxum Inc has crashed the aprty

[moneyman]

Hi Oprano

I'm Mark the sales director at Paxum Inc, I live and work In Montreal Canada and hope to make some positive contribution to your forum.
Have a great Sunday and don't forget to change your clocks.

[sarettah]

Hi Oprano

I'm Mark the sales director at Paxum Inc, I live and work In Montreal Canada and hope to make some positive contribution to your forum.
Have a great Sunday and don't forget to change your clocks.


1. This is Oprano where spelling counts. What exactly is a aprty?
2. Where do you get off telling us or reminding us of anything? We are smart enough in here to not need to set our clocks back. We don't conform to anyone's rules, especially not yours.
3. Do you have tits?
4. Welcome to Oprano, I guess. Well, maybe.

:mad:

[sarettah]

5. There is already a "Mark" from Canada in this biz so you have to change your name. We will be glad to offer you some alternatives.

[RawAlex]

1. This is Opano where spelling counts. What exactly is a aprty?


What is an Opano?

;)

[sarettah]

What is an Opano?

;)

What choo talking about?

Figures a Canuck would come in and troll my ass.

[moneyman]

Good morning, aprty is what happens when I post before my 2nd cup of coffee has had time to wake up all the brain cells, once the coffee get it's job done I feel like partying.

Nice meeting you two, what's the word for today?

[softball]

The word for today is snowball. You keep all that hard earned hot American money in a secure igloo? Another damn Canuck, eh?

[Toby]

Paxum® is a psychotherapeutic agent of the most popular and widely used benzodiazepine derivative, diazepam. In many individuals, it produces satisfactory anxiolytic effect in doses that do not cause clinically important sedation or impairment of psychomotor function. Other than its use as an anxiolytic agent, diazepam is also used as an anticonvulsant and a sedative and skeletal muscle relaxant. In addition to these therapeutic actions the drug lacks significant side effects outside of Central Nervous System and has low toxicity factors that have contributed to its wide-spread clinical use.

Paxum (Diazepam) is presumed to act on the parts of the limbic system, thalamus and hypothalamus producing a state of calmness and has no demonstrable blocking action on the peripheral autonomic nervous system. Although the exact mechanisms of action are not fully understood, several processes are believed to be involved to exert their therapeutic effects. Part of the mechanisms of action of Paxum may be explained by its interaction with gamma aminobutyric acid (GABA) in the brain. The drug appears to facilitate synaptic GABA-ergic inhibitory mechanisms. It is also suggested that

(a) in some cells, can induce their own forms of inhibition directly by producing an effect much like that evoked by GABA,

(b) the drug can also inhibit the release of neurotransmitters and

(c) an effect that might involve potentiation of GABA actions at presynaptic sites.

Paxum is rapidly absorbed after oral ingestion and peak plasma levels are reached in about an hour in adults and in 15 to 30 minutes in children. The effect is more rapid after i.v. administration; i.m. administration, however, produces lower peak plasma level than oral or i.v. administrations. Like other benzodiazepine derivatives diazepam is highly lipid soluble, widely distributed in the body tissues and is highly bound to plasma protein.

Both the gastrointestinal and cardiovascular systems are well known to be affected by stress, anxiety and autonomic activity and Paxum is reported to offer significant beneficial effects in regard of both psychic and somatic clusters. I.V. Paxum is used to produce sedation in psychiatric emergencies and in the treatment of drug induced systemic reactions, status epilepticus, tetanus and as an anaesthetic agent.

Suicidal tendencies may be present in those patients with accompanying degree of depression and least amount of drug feasible should be administered. In elderly or debilitated patients and in children initial dosage should be small and increments made gradually. Patients on prolonged therapy should have periodic blood counts and liver function tests. Alcohol may alter the patients response to diazepam. Diazepam readily crosses the placenta and due care should be taken in using it in late pregnancy. I.V. administration should be done slowly to avoid the risk of apnoea. Withdrawal of the drug from patients receiving very high doses or for prolonged period of time should be gradual. The drug should not be mixed with i.v. fluids or solutions of other drugs. Safety and efficacy of parenteral diazepam has not been established in the neonates.

[softball]

Oh, oh maybe the word for today should be Valium.

[moneyman]

The word for today is snowball. You keep all that hard earned hot American money in a secure igloo? Another damn Canuck, eh?

Yeh we love our neighbors to the south, nice meeting you.

[softball]

So Mark, do you guys speak English there or are you using Babelfish? Just curious. I think there may be more Quebec guys here and I think they might speak some English.

[moneyman]

So Mark, do you guys speak English there or are you using Babelfish? Just curious. I think there may be more Quebec guys here and I think they might speak some English.

English, French, Spanish, Chinese anything you want after a few Molson Dries.



My first language is English for your information.

[softball]

English, French, Spanish, Chinese anything you want after a few Molson Dries.



My first language is English for your information.

I believe Danny Cox is from Montreal and I think he speaks some English.

[moneyman]

I believe Danny Cox is from Montreal and I think he speaks some English.

We're in Point Claire right off St. Jean Blvd., on the 40 Highway would be nice to meet other Oprano members in person for a drink if anyone has time.

[RawAlex]

We're in Point Claire right off St. Jean Blvd., on the 40 Highway would be nice to meet other Oprano members in person for a drink if anyone has time.

Yup, they are in the short term rental office behind the Holiday Inn. Home for all sorts of companies that come and go... have a Paxum!

[moneyman]

Yup, they are in the short term rental office behind the Holiday Inn. Home for all sorts of companies that come and go... have a Paxum!

We are in a full service business center like many other business today.

May I ask you something since you seem to have an opinion on our lease agreement, have you seen our lease and terms of the lease, how do you know what length of time it was signed for.

[DannyCox]

Molson Dry!! And I thought that maybe we could have been friends...

...Labatt Blue Dry right here baby!!

I see your mailing address is at the UPS Store on Sources. Ours is right across the street at the Canada Post drop in the Jean Coutu!

Actually, if you ever want to hang out and have a drink, we head over to La Kachette on the Dorval Circle every Friday for Happy Hour. I also live about a mile from your office in DDO ;)

[moneyman]

Molson Dry!! And I thought that maybe we could have been friends...

...Labatt Blue Dry right here baby!!

I see your mailing address is at the UPS Store on Sources. Ours is right across the street at the Canada Post drop in the Jean Coutu!

Actually, if you ever want to hang out and have a drink, we head over to La Kachette on the Dorval Circle every Friday for Happy Hour. I also live about a mile from your office in DDO ;)


Blue works for me. I was just in the shopping center just past Jean Coutu towards the highway, my kids are hooked on that new burger place "O" burger, picked us up some lunch. Have you ever tried their burger, pretty nice.

I used to hang out with friends at Cheers on St Jean, shame that place closed down. I'll swing over to La kachette, never been there but there's always a first time. What time you going to be there on Friday Danny.

I might invite a few of the boys from the office for a brewsky if you don't mind.

[DannyCox]

Cheers was my hang-out for many many years. We were there every Friday, without fail, and usually a couple of other times during the week. When Bill finally bankrupted the place, we moved down to Bourbon Street West for Fridays, and now La Kachette. We get there at 6:30 on every Friday.

Everyone is always welcome to join us!

[moneyman]

Cheers was my hang-out for many many years. We were there every Friday, without fail, and usually a couple of other times during the week. When Bill finally bankrupted the place, we moved down to Bourbon Street West for Fridays, and now La Kachette. We get there at 6:30 on every Friday.

Everyone is always welcome to join us!

See you Friday at 6.30pm, quick question how do I recognize you, want to pm me your cell # or some other way to know who you are.

[EmporerEJ]

Well, welcome to the forum, from the friendly Americans.
(The Canucks are just pissed off because they AREN'T Americans.) -We have winter too, we just don't do it year 'round.

Now THAT should start some shit.

[moneyman]

Well, welcome to the forum, from the friendly Americans.
(The Canucks are just pissed off because they AREN'T Americans.) -We have winter too, we just don't do it year 'round.

Now THAT should start some shit.



Thanks for the welcome.

[DannyCox]

Mark, you can see all my wondeful, and hot and sexy pictures, on my Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/DannyWRP. You can also just look for the wife, Carol Cox (http://www.carolcox.com), as she is always near me. We sit at the corner of the main bar, that's right in front of you as you first walk in.

You can also get me on the cell (if I remember to keep in on me) at (514) 237-7841

[softball]

I see Danny Cox is using Babelfish again.

[moneyman]

Danny I'll call you Friday.
I know of Carol's fame, one of our pride and joys of Montreal.

[moneyman]

rhetorical I am guilty as charged for typing too fast and not spell checking before hitting "Submit reply"

I usually have 15-20 windows open on IE, get icq (which I hate so try not to turn it on too often), emails comming in all the time and that's it.
You should be glad i don't start every post with "Hey" you know we canucks are known for saying "Hey" every other word.

[DannyCox]

I see Danny Cox is using Babelfish again.

Google Translate, maudit ostie, tabarnak!

[softball]

rhetorical I am guilty as charged for typing too fast and not spell checking before hitting "Submit reply"

I usually have 15-20 windows open on IE, get icq (which I hate so try not to turn it on too often), emails comming in all the time and that's it.
You should be glad i don't start every post with "Hey" you know we canucks are known for saying "Hey" every other word.

No, you say eh? at the end of every sentence. I don't even think you are a Canuck.

[softball]

Google Translate, maudit ostie, tabarnak!

Je m'en calisse et mange mes culottes.

[moneyman]

No, you say eh? at the end of every sentence. I don't even think you are a Canuck.
You haven't heard me talk :)

I'm HEY not eh

[softball]

Yup, they are in the short term rental office behind the Holiday Inn. Home for all sorts of companies that come and go... have a Paxum!

I think I have shot in that Holiday Inn before an evening of sushi and glass smashing, head bashing, eye gouging wrestling. A friend of mine owns a wrestling league. I still have the t shirt.

[RawAlex]

We are in a full service business center like many other business today.

May I ask you something since you seem to have an opinion on our lease agreement, have you seen our lease and terms of the lease, how do you know what length of time it was signed for.

Having met with the owners of the building in the past, the rent stutructure is pretty simple, easy to deal with, and are effectively month to month leases (with options on 3 and 6 month leases with exit options). It is the sort of place business end up in for a very, very short period of time where they find out if they are going to sink or swim, without having to sign any long term leases or make personal pledges to get things done.

My comments mean nothing more than what they are. :)

[softball]

Mark, how long have you been with this company and what is your position there? In other words, how many sales directors are there?

We have over 120 afiliate programs using paxum now and a few thousand webmasters Give us some names and references.

I saw you got beat up pretty badly on another board. It seems that "sales director" is the latter day title of "board whore"...no disrespect intended. Just saying.

However, as per Raw Alex, why would I trust my finances to a company with the equivalent of a Mailboxes Etc. address?

[moneyman]

Mark, how long have you been with this company and what is your position there? In other words, how many sales directors are there?

Give us some names and references.

I saw you got beat up pretty badly on another board. It seems that "sales director" is the latter day title of "board whore"...no disrespect intended. Just saying.

However, as per Raw Alex, why would I trust my finances to a company with the equivalent of a Mailboxes Etc. address?


I've been with Paxum Inc for just over 2 months, we have 7 account reps I am the only sales manager there.

The list of Paxum programs is on our site at the very bottom of the page, it is not current, it gets updated about once a week, there are numerous large programs and hosts who have signed up to Paxum but as a rule we wait for them to integrate paxum into their billing system, tell us it's active before posting it on that page

I can't post the link to paxum programs because I don't have 15 posts
So please check the bottom of our site for "participating sponsors"
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Our mailing address for recieving checks and correspondence is
3484 Des Sources Blvd., suite 205
Dollard-des-Ormeaux, Quebec
H9B 1Z9
Canada

Our corporate office where I work along with a number of in house people is
6600 Trans Canada Highway, Suite 750
Point Claire, Quebec
H9R 4S2
Canada

[softball]

edit.....

[moneyman]

rhetorical
Braincash has us listed on their signup page as one of their payment options

[sarettah]

https://www.paxum.com/payment/sponsors.php?view=views/sponsors.xsl

Sponsors paying by Paxum

Adult Rental http://www.adultrentalcash.com
Anilos Cash http://www.aniloscash.com
AV Revenue http://www.avrevenue.com
Badgirl Bucks http://www.badgirlbucks.com
Bizarre Dollars http://v2.bizarredollars.com
Bos Bucks http://bosbucks.com
Boyfriends Bucks http://www.boyfriendbucks.com
Braz Bucks http://www.brazbucks.com
Bucks Matrix http://www.bucksmatrix.com
CamSpotCash http://www.camspotcash.com
Catchy Cash http://catchycash.com
ClickMeMedia http://www.clickmemedia.com
Deecash http://www.deecash.com
DP Dollars http://dpdollars.com
Dream Cash http://secure.dream-cash.com
EliteDollars http://www.elitedollars.com
Enjoy Bucks http://enjoybucks.com
Fucking Cash http://www.fucking-cash.com
Gaytronix http://www.gaytronix.com
GFKings http://www.gfkings.com
Gladirex Cash http://www.gladirexcash.com
Hentai Biz http://www.hentaibiz.com
Hentai Boss http://www.hentaiboss.com
IA Cash http://nats.iacash.com
Idol Bucks http://www.idolbucks.com
Jason and Alex http://www.jasonandalex.com/index.php
joinrightnow http://www.joinrightnow.com
Jugg Cash http://www.juggcash.com
Lifestyle Amateurs http://nats.lifestyleamateurs.com
Loaded Cash http://www.loadedcash.com
Matrix Cash http://matrix-cash.com
mayor's money http://www.mayorsmoney.com
Meat Cash http://www.meatcash.com
MILFCash http://www.milfcash.com
Mofoscash http://www.mofoscash.com
Money Cult http://www.moneycult.com
Movie Profits http://www.movieprofits.com
Nice Ratios http://www.niceratios.com
Niched Sites http://www.nichedsites.com
OAInternet http://www.oainternet.com
Paper Street Cash http://www.paperstreetcash.com
Pay Tube Cash http://www.paytubecash.com
People Traffic http://www.peopletraffic.com
Pimpboss http://www.pimpboss.com
Pure Cash Masters http://www.purecashmasters.com
pure meds http://nats.puremeds.com
ragecash http://www.ragecash.com
Revenge Bucks http://www.revengebucks.com
Royal Cash http://royal-cash.com
Serious-Partners http://www.serious-partners.com
Sextronix http://www.sextronix.com
Shocking Cash http://www.shockingcash.com
Smash Bucks http://nats.smashbucks.com
stfucash http://www.stfucash.com
Teenrevenue http://www.teenrevenue.com
Top Bucks http://referral.topbucks.com
Traffic Junky http://www.trafficjunky.net
triplexcash http://www.triplexcash.com
Vidz http://webmasters.vidz.com
Vip Cash http://vip-cash.com
VIP Pay http://www.vippay.com
VIP Revenue http://www.viprevenue.com
Wild Cash http://www.wildcash.com
XXXL Money http://nats.xxxlmoney.com
Spunky Cash http://www.spunkycash.com
Simon Scans http://www.simonscans.com
Hunk Money http://www.hunkmoney.com/
British Bucks http://nats.britishbucks.com/
Latino Bucks http://www.latinobucks.com/
Pills Money http://www,pillsmoney.com
Hunters Cash http://www.hunterscash.com
Cuckold Cash http://www.cuckoldcash.com
MyAdultDesign http://myadultdesign.com/
Profits Deluxe http://www.profitsdeluxe.com
Nude Cash http://www.newnudecash.com
Long Bucks http://www.Longbucks.com
Fetish Wealth http://www.fetishwealth.com
Fetish Assets http://www.fetishassets.com/
Astro Dollars http://www.astrodollars.com
Teen Harbour http://teenharbour.com
Bomb Bucks http://bombucks.com
Revshare Cash http://www.revsharecash.com/
Lotsa Dollars http://www.lotzadollars.com/
webwide cash http://www.webwidecash.com/
solo converts www.soloconverts.com
Real Teen Cash http://www.realteencash.com
Teen Revenue http://www.teenrevenue.com
Pay Serve http://www.payserve.com
Smart Bucks http://www.smartbucks.com
Stand Ahead http://www.standahead.com
Boy Crush Cash http://www.boycrushcash.com
Brothers In Cash http://www.BrothersInCash.com
Block Booster Cash http://www.BlockboosterCash.com
Uncensored Bucks http://www.UncensoredBucks.com
Brain Cash http://www.braincash.com
Premium Cash http://www.premiumcash.com
PornStar Network http://www.pornstarnetwork.com
Grand Slam Media http://www.gsmediainc.com
Pride Bucks http://www.pridebucks.com
Cam Dough http://www.camdough.com
Adult Theme Designs http://www.adult-theme.com
Gloryhole Princess http://www.gloryholeprincess.com/

[moneyman]

Nice to meet you Sarettah and thanks for posting the list, there should be some major programs added there this week once they implement paxum into their backend, I can't mention names but I know all the new business accounts we have added recently.

[gonzo]

Welcome to Oprano.

Say I had a cam studio and I wanted to use a P2P card for models to get paid by consumers. How would I go about getting that arranged?

[DannyCox]

*DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER* (you old guys will get that)

...I see DeeCash listed in there! A sure sign of impending doom! ;)

[RawAlex]

*DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER* (you old guys will get that)

...I see DeeCash listed in there! A sure sign of impending doom! ;)

Actually, it's Deecash, Brazzers, and their ilk. I am shocked that AFF isn't in there. Pretty much the programs that need to pay fast or discretely to keep webmasters in the fold.

[moneyman]

Welcome to Oprano.

Say I had a cam studio and I wanted to use a P2P card for models to get paid by consumers. How would I go about getting that arranged?

Thank you for the welcome note Gonzo, I survived the first 24 hours on Oprano, a few cuts and bruises but I think there's a chance I might make it through the first week, assuming Danny doesn't spike my beer on Friday night with rat poison.

P2P is for Paxum to Paxum users, anyone with a Paxum account can send another Paxum account money instantly

I can set you up with a business account and take care of your business so you are happy, if you wish to call me, email me or icq me.

Nice board you have here, tough but serious people.

[TheEnforcer]

LOL

Spellign counts here at Oprnao> Bwahahahahahaa!! if that was the case "the typo king of the internet" would have been gone a LOOOOONNGGGG time ago...

Welcome to oprano. Let's talk advertising.

[TheEnforcer]

Tried adding you to my ICQ but had no luck as it was being a pain in the arse... tried to send a message via ICQ..

[moneyman]

LOL

Spellign counts here at Oprnao> Bwahahahahahaa!! if that was the case "the typo king of the internet" would have been gone a LOOOOONNGGGG time ago...

Welcome to oprano. Let's talk advertising.

If spellng counts I'm going to get an "F" my middle name is speedy lmao. I have at least 15 if not more windows open at any given time and type hope for the best when I hit enter.

Email me your rate card, we are looking at new campaigns for the new year I'll keep it in mind.

But if ads depend on typos I'm screwed :)

[moneyman]

Tried adding you to my ICQ but had no luck as it was being a pain in the arse... tried to send a message via ICQ..

I haven't been able to add people on icq all day and when I do they say I am offline, there must be something going on in the system, email me please.

Thanks

[TheEnforcer]

I haven't been able to add people on icq all day and when I do they say I am offline, there must be something going on in the system, email me please.

Thanks

Email sent. Feel free to ask me any questions. Quite a bit of info in there.

[moneyman]

Email sent. Feel free to ask me any questions. Quite a bit of info in there.
Got it Thanks

[TheEnforcer]

No problem.. looking forward to doing business together..

[moneyman]

No problem.. looking forward to doing business together..

Money makes the world go round, I hope we work on deals together too.

[sarettah]

Nice to meet you Sarettah.


Yes, it is. Isn't it? :yowsa:

[moneyman]

Yes, it is. Isn't it? :yowsa:

It sure is, the more people you talk to the better your chances of getting a free brew when you meet them at the watering hole :okthumb:

[gonzo]

Thank you for the welcome note Gonzo, I survived the first 24 hours on Oprano, a few cuts and bruises but I think there's a chance I might make it through the first week, assuming Danny doesn't spike my beer on Friday night with rat poison.

P2P is for Paxum to Paxum users, anyone with a Paxum account can send another Paxum account money instantly

I can set you up with a business account and take care of your business so you are happy, if you wish to call me, email me or icq me.

Nice board you have here, tough but serious people.

Everyone here is involved in making money for the most part.
I wouldnt need a business account.

These would be p2p transactions I wouldnt be involved.
Whats the cost of a performer to get a card?
Whats the cost for a consumer to get a card?

Do they accounts have to be loaded to receive money?
Can I load a card from a credit card for instant availability?

How much does it cost for a consumer to load his card?
How much does it cost for a performer to get her money?

Does she receive it via ATM or via her bank account?

[RawAlex]

Yes, it is. Isn't it? :yowsa:

How do you fit so much ego into one small message? ;)

[gonzo]

Your signature should be nominated for a pearl.

[moneyman]

Everyone here is involved in making money for the most part.
I wouldnt need a business account.

These would be p2p transactions I wouldnt be involved.
Whats the cost of a performer to get a card?
Whats the cost for a consumer to get a card?

Do they accounts have to be loaded to receive money?
Can I load a card from a credit card for instant availability?

How much does it cost for a consumer to load his card?
How much does it cost for a performer to get her money?

Does she receive it via ATM or via her bank account?


Personal and business accounts can get a Paxum mastercard, even before they have funds in their account, the $44.95 yearly maintenance fee will be deducted on their first load.

Loads for all accounts at this time are by wire, certified check, money order only. We are implementing credit card loading as an ption but it is not yet functional.

personal accounts can send money to other paxum accounts for 25 cents, business accounts for $1.

The Paxum mastercard is issued to all countries (except for those on the UN embargo list such as Iran, N.Korea...)
We are licensed through mastercard International as a global account.

Withdrawing money by the Paxum card is $2 per transaction for all accounts, the daily limit on the card is $2500 .

Withdrawing by check for personal accounts is $5 and and $25 for business accounts or by wire $50 for all accounts.

I hope I answered your questions to your satissfaction, if i missed anythign pelase let me know.

[moneyman]

Your signature should be nominated for a pearl.

If it violates the board rules please let me know I'll fix it, I don't want to break any rules of the forum.

[sarettah]

How do you fit so much ego into one small message? ;)

It is quite amazing, isn't it? :yowsa:

[moneyman]

It is quite amazing, isn't it? :yowsa:

May I ask what you do, nt to be personal that is.

[gonzo]

If it violates the board rules please let me know I'll fix it, I don't want to break any rules of the forum.
Yours is fine. I was ragging on Alex....:-pearl:

[Toby]

Withdrawing by check for personal accounts is $5...

Is that check via a US based bank?

[softball]

What bank is involved in all of this? Where are the accounts held?

[moneyman]

Is that check via a US based bank?
Checks are issued in US dollars from our Canadian Bank, BMO Bank of Montreal.

[moneyman]

What bank is involved in all of this? Where are the accounts held?

We bank with BMO bank of Montreal and cards are issued by Choice bank in Belize.

[Toby]

Checks are issued in US dollars from our Canadian Bank, BMO Bank of Montreal.

OK, that's of no use to me then. Are there plans to add ACH withdrawl capability? I don't need to pay a $45/yr ATM card fee (plus $2/withdrawl) for the handful of sponsors I promote that don't pay via US based checks.

[moneyman]

OK, that's of no use to me then. Are there plans to add ACH withdrawl capability? I don't need to pay a $45/yr ATM card fee (plus $2/withdrawl) for the handful of sponsors I promote that don't pay via US based checks.

I wish we had more options at this time but we don't, we are working on adding credit card load and unload options and ach.

[sarettah]

May I ask what you do, nt to be personal that is.

I do all sorts of things and I'm even good at one or three of them :okthumb:

[softball]

May I ask what you do, nt to be personal that is.

He makes pages load real fast.

[moneyman]

He makes pages load real fast.
I get it, he doesn't make a post into a long winded thing like my replies :yowsa:

[sarettah]

I get it, he doesn't make a post into a long winded thing like my replies :yowsa:

Dude, it's not all about you........














It's all about me :yowsa:

[moneyman]

Dude, it's not all about you........














It's all about me :yowsa:


Fine with me, I have no ego problem, just like making money. :clapping:

[softball]

Fine with me, I have no ego problem, just like making money. :clapping:

So, are you making any?

[moneyman]

So, are you making any?

Not enough for a Lambo but it's okay the mortgage is current.

[spazlabz]

Ouch the old Oprano is in full force today damn! Better have answers when you drift into these here parts I reckon :)

[gonzo]

Ouch the old Oprano is in full force today damn! Better have answers when you drift into these here parts I reckon :)

Nobody beating on him.
I cant use it.
Thats a $90 investment plus all the transaction charges for each model and one consumer before anyone gets to buy or be paid.

[moneyman]

Gonzo as a token of appreciation for having me on this great board I'd like to offer you the first year card fee on me, if you choose to signup for a Paxum account I will personally take care of the fee.

All I need is the account email address so I can have the $44.95 credited back to the account, please email it once you signup.

For all Oprano members who want to signup for a business account I can make interesting offers based on the transaction volume they anticipate to have using Paxum to pay affiliates. Just contact me by email I will put together win-win packages of offers.

Thank you

[gonzo]

Gonzo as a token of appreciation for having me on this great board I'd like to offer you the first year card fee on me, if you choose to signup for a Paxum account I will personally take care of the fee.

All I need is the account email address so I can have the $44.95 credited back to the account, please email it once you signup.

For all Oprano members who want to signup for a business account I can make interesting offers based on the transaction volume they anticipate to have using Paxum to pay affiliates. Just contact me by email I will put together win-win packages of offers.

Thank you

Thats nice of you. I wouldnt have any use for a card though other than to put it in my wallet by my epassporte.

Maybe we can discuss a business account to pay our affiliates at some point.

[moneyman]

Thats nice of you. I wouldnt have any use for a card though other than to put it in my wallet by my epassporte.

Maybe we can discuss a business account to pay our affiliates at some point.

Gonzo anytime you are ready I'm available to talk business.

Thank you

[softball]

I still don't get why I need any kind of ewallet thingy. It just sounds like a recipe for disaster as was shown. I owe somebody money, I can pay them with paypal without having to tie up any currency. I can mail them a check. I can tranfer via bank transfer. If I need a cc, I use my own Amex, Visa or whatever. So under what circumstances (apart from hiding the transaction from...that organization whose name shall not be spoken) would this deal be of any use?

[RawAlex]

Yours is fine. I was ragging on Alex....:-pearl:

The actual quote goes to celeb chef David Adjey. It's a classic.

[moneyman]

I still don't get why I need any kind of ewallet thingy. It just sounds like a recipe for disaster as was shown. I owe somebody money, I can pay them with paypal without having to tie up any currency. I can mail them a check. I can tranfer via bank transfer. If I need a cc, I use my own Amex, Visa or whatever. So under what circumstances (apart from hiding the transaction from...that organization whose name shall not be spoken) would this deal be of any use?

Paxum is a means to pay other Paxum users, for example you want to pay a coder, designer, content guy $100 now for services, sending a check or wire takes time and money.

Let's say the 2 parties are in different countries, sending a check by mail would take time and typically foreign checks cost the eprson depositing it money and they put a hold on it until it clears, a wire will cost both parties money too.

Paxum like paypal provides a service where 2 people can trasact business instantly. For personal accounts it's only 25 cents and for business accounts only $1 to pay another paxum party.

Everyone responsible person has to do their taxes, this is not about what you declare or what you don't. It's no different than when you get wires or checks, you should act according the the law.

[RawAlex]

Paxum is a means to pay other Paxum users, for example you want to pay a coder, designer, content guy $100 now for services, sending a check or wire takes time and money.

Let's say the 2 parties are in different countries, sending a check by mail would take time and typically foreign checks cost the eprson depositing it money and they put a hold on it until it clears, a wire will cost both parties money too.

Paxum like paypal provides a service where 2 people can trasact business instantly. For personal accounts it's only 25 cents and for business accounts only $1 to pay another paxum party.

Everyone responsible person has to do their taxes, this is not about what you declare or what you don't. It's no different than when you get wires or checks, you should act according the the law.

what you left out in all of this is that the guy in the receiving country has little or no obligation to report the transaction, which effectively happens invisibly outside of the country, allowing webmasters in many countries to avoid a tax burden. This is doubly useful for webmasters who use their "e-wallet" funds to buy other services, as they can then double dip - show the invoice as an expense, and not actually have to show income.

Services such as Paxum, Epass, and the like would not exist if all transactions had to be reported in the receiving country. It would all but eliminate the benefits.

[moneyman]

what you left out in all of this is that the guy in the receiving country has little or no obligation to report the transaction, which effectively happens invisibly outside of the country, allowing webmasters in many countries to avoid a tax burden. This is doubly useful for webmasters who use their "e-wallet" funds to buy other services, as they can then double dip - show the invoice as an expense, and not actually have to show income.

Services such as Paxum, Epass, and the like would not exist if all transactions had to be reported in the receiving country. It would all but eliminate the benefits.


I hate to disagree but we exist to make money providing a peer to peer service world wide especially for adult transactions and nothing else.

When you are buying a $10 domain or banner the vendor expects the payment upon delivery of the service, a check or wire is not going to be a time/money efficient means to pay. Just like Paypal, we exist because people need instant transfer and paypal doesn't allow adult.

[softball]

I hate to disagree but we exist to make money providing a peer to peer service world wide especially for adult transactions and nothing else.

When you are buying a $10 domain or banner the vendor expects the payment upon delivery of the service, a check or wire is not going to be a time/money efficient means to pay. Just like Paypal, we exist because people need instant transfer and paypal doesn't allow adult.

I use PayPal at the moment. They have been around a long time and they work. Why do I need to take a chance on a new service that is doing exactly what the now infamous EPassport did. And as RawAlex pointed out, there are some pretty dodgy companies on your client list and your office is a mailbox.

[moneyman]

I use PayPal at the moment. They have been around a long time and they work. Why do I need to take a chance on a new service that is doing exactly what the now infamous EPassport did. And as RawAlex pointed out, there are some pretty dodgy companies on your client list and your office is a mailbox.


I don't think it's a good idea for me to bash or comment on our past and present competition. We run a solid business and have systems in palce to protect our future and those of our clients.

All our clients are special to us, we value each and everyone and appreciate them choosing to use Paxum.

Our office is not a mailbox, I already replied to a question about it on the first page of this thread.

Our mailing address for recieving checks and correspondence is
3484 Des Sources Blvd., suite 205
Dollard-des-Ormeaux, Quebec
H9B 1Z9
Canada

Our corporate office where I work along with a number of in house people is
6600 Trans Canada Highway, Suite 750
Point Claire, Quebec
H9R 4S2
Canada

I hope that answers the questions.

[softball]

Last question I will ask. Will you or do you support or process financial transactions for any company that steals content. If you do, will you stop processing their transactions?

[Toby]

We run a solid business and have systems in palce to protect our future and those of our clients.

All our clients are special to us, we value each and everyone and appreciate them choosing to use Paxum.

Spoken like a sales manager. Given the recent demise of ePassporte and Paxum being relatively new you can certainly understand people's reluctance to trust an unproven entity with their money.

A more detailed explanation of those systems you have in place to protect you and your clients would likely go a long way toward building some of that needed trust.

[moneyman]

Last question I will ask. Will you or do you support or process financial transactions for any company that steals content. If you do, will you stop processing their transactions?

That really is not a question I can answer, I head the sales team and honestly I am not going to take the bait.

[moneyman]

Spoken like a sales manager. Given the recent demise of ePassporte and Paxum being relatively new you can certainly understand people's reluctance to trust an unproven entity with their money.

A more detailed explanation of those systems you have in place to protect you and your clients would likely go a long way toward building some of that needed trust.


We are a Canadian company, licensed by the Canadian Government after stringent checks on our business and officers, to be a money transfer business.
You can verify that by going here
you just put Paxum in the first box on
http://www10.fintrac-canafe.gc.ca/ms...earch-eng.html (http://www10.fintrac-canafe.gc.ca/msb-esm/search-recherche/search-eng.html)

We have the license from mastercard International to issue accounts in all countries (excpet for those on the UN embargo list sucvh as Iran, N.Korea...)

We do not lend or borrow against the funds we hold, we actually keep 10% more than in the client balances from our cash.

Canadian banks are very safe and solid, you hardly ever hear of one going under, our main account is with one of the larger banks in Canada. BMO Bank of Montreal.

Very few people at Paxum have acess to client information or account balances. Including me, I manage 7 account reps, none of us has access to any personal information or can see balances let alone move any funds around.

The owner and accountant have that clearance and access rights. It is safer and better this way.

I hope that addresses your concerns.

[softball]

That really is not a question I can answer, I head the sales team and honestly I am not going to take the bait.

That was a very important question and you dodged it. We make our living here and we do not appreciate anyone who processes and supports those who steal from us and lower our bottom line. Simple question. Why would you refer to it as bait if you were an honest company processing for honest companies that don't steal our products? You see, bud, if you process their shit, then you are making a profit from our work and not paying us a penny. So,please just answer the question.

[Evil Chris]

Is this one of those "welcome to the internet" threads?

Mark... well done. This group hasn't had this much excitement in years.

[RawAlex]

I hate to disagree but we exist to make money providing a peer to peer service world wide especially for adult transactions and nothing else.

When you are buying a $10 domain or banner the vendor expects the payment upon delivery of the service, a check or wire is not going to be a time/money efficient means to pay. Just like Paypal, we exist because people need instant transfer and paypal doesn't allow adult.

Alas Mark, this is where I think you are trying to close your eyes to reality.

What as EPass used for? It wasn't for minor $10 transactions. People were paying their hosting bills, buying content, taking ALL of their webmaster income via Epass. Why? Without a check going through your bank, there are few ways for most people to be tracked.

If I take the scuttlebutt and suggestions made online, by both Epass, the banks, and other people, one of the issues that Epass apparently failed at was identifying their clients. The US government (as well as others) don't like systems set up to allow the free flow of cash without tracking. It should come as no surprise that when Epass failed, the traffic to the St Kitt's bank suddenly became something like 40% from Russia. Hmmm!

As for Paxum's Canadian registration and all, let's make this clear: Paxum is not a bank, only a money transfer agent (no different from, say, Vigo). The money on deposit with BMO is assured only up to about $100,000. That's it, that's all - unless you play the many, many account game. Even then... there is potential for refusal to cover.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Deposit_Insurance_Corporation

Now, my good question of the day is this: When money is in a Paxum account, who actually holds it? Is the money on the card and held by the issuing bank, or is it in Paxum (not a bank, just a transfer agent) control? This is the question that Epass really didn't want to answer. Perhaps you can help us out here.

[moneyman]

That was a very important question and you dodged it. We make our living here and we do not appreciate anyone who processes and supports those who steal from us and lower our bottom line. Simple question. Why would you refer to it as bait if you were an honest company processing for honest companies that don't steal our products? You see, bud, if you process their shit, then you are making a profit from our work and not paying us a penny. So,please just answer the question.

I know it's a loaded question that is going to get off topic, I am not judge jury nor executioner, if anyone believes their content has been used illegally without full consent and license the law is very clear about it. The DMCA covers that, what most webmasters do is sit around cry on the boards and do nothing legally to protect their intellectual work.

I personally have no sympathy for those who act as key board warriors and do not take the proper legal action to protect what is their right.

Here is a link to DNCA http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/hr2281.pdf


Let me share a thought about trust and money.

Affiliates send traffic to a program hoping to make sales, programs typically pay weekly, bi-weekly or monthly. Most programs have a 1 - 2 week hold on the affiliate payment before they disburse it,

So afiliates get paid any where from 2 weeks to 6 weeks after they made the first sale.

They trust a program with their earnings for that length of time so why not trust Paxum for a few minutes with their money. Literally a few minutes.

Program pays affiliate by Paxum, affiliate can go to the nearest ATM machine withraw his cash instantly for a $2 fee. The Paxum card has a daily withrawal limit of $2,500.

Most affiliates don't recieve that much from a program per pay period anyways.
What is there to trust their money with Paxum, they can cash out instantly.



I have tried to be as open and transparent about paxum and answer all questions to the best of my abilities, I am not here to defend Paxum, there is nothing to defend.

We provide a very sought after service by webmasters and program owners, we aren't the only company doing this business, if anyone doesn't want to use our services that's fine, no one is forcing them to do so.

What I really don't want to do is keep defending our business or repeating the same answers.

I think it's time we got on with the business of making money and not trying to find holes in something that doesn't have holes.
So this will be my final post on the thread.

I am always available by email, anyone wants to join Paxum please do so or email me if you have any questions.

I would rather be an active participant of this forum on more than one thread and subject.

Good night.

[softball]

So, Mark....you are now trying to lecture a bunch of seasoned professionals, guys who have way more experience than you on how the biz works. Bad idea.
Everyone here knows about DMCA and how useless this is. Keyboard warrior...you have no idea what that even means around here.
However, what you have clearly said, is that you do process or are willing to process content thieves.
Its not bait. All you have to say is you refuse to process thieves. Is that so hard?

[sarettah]

Is this one of those "welcome to the internet" threads?

Mark... well done. This group hasn't had this much excitement in years.

Now, that made me laugh :yowsa:

[softball]

I think Mark is pretty much bruised, battered and done. Lets see if he has any balls left.

[gonzo]

I have tried to be as open and transparent about paxum and answer all questions to the best of my abilities, I am not here to defend Paxum, there is nothing to defend.


We are all making individual assessments if your service is right for us.
Certainly after whats happened with Epassporte you cant blame anyone for that.

For the most part all the participants in this thread make a living as an affiliate or have an affiliate program.

My question was really hypothetical concerning a new project we are developing. Certainly wasnt meant for anything other than an assessment on my part.

[softball]

Was it the theft question Mark?.....lol

[RawAlex]

When the going gets tough...

[softball]

"When the product is destined to fail, the delivery system will perform perfectly."

[DannyCox]

So Mark, we still meeting up for a beer on Friday?

Just ignore these guys, that's what we all do, including them with one another! ;)

[RawAlex]

So Danny, how was the beer?

[DannyCox]

The beers were good and cold, just as I like them ;)

[TheEnforcer]

Nice guy. Enjoyed my talk with him.