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MikeSouth
03-15-2009, 02:34 PM
C4S is getting increasingly difficult to deal with these days, I was wondering if there are any other similar sites that anyone is using.

I tried clipclinic but never made a single sale (kind weird since my stores on C4S did very well.

my issue with C4S is if you dont stay on the front page your revenue is marginal. Since Im using C4S to monetize my older content it makes no sense to send them my traffic, nor do I have any issues with them forbidding links to slurp their traffic. But

I dont like that they allow top listed stores to sell long clips for less than is suppossed to be allowed to sell for (13 min clips for 3.99)

I dont like the fact that they wont expand the front page to show more recently updated stores forcing store owners to post all kinds of phony updates to stay on the front page (Im guilty of that but it just shouldnt be necessary)

Any other ways working for yall?

MRock
03-15-2009, 05:09 PM
Hey Mike,

I feel your pain. I have taken to posting my clips in 5 different formats to keep getting the front page placement on C4S. I don't like how it makes my pages look, but I really don't think the surfers mind that much. I think a post only lasts for about 20 minutes now on the main list, last time I tracked it. I also have started taking longer clips and cut them into part 1,2,3 etc. On a positive note, I have started selling DVDs at C4S and this is my best month so far. Are you selling DVDs there?

I try every clip place that I can find. I am having some success with clips.com, a small but monthly check from them. I am at clipclinic with 3 stores (niches), but have only sold 2 clips so far. I just started with fetishvideos.com this month. I have been toying with launching my own clip stores, but not rolled up my sleeves to tackle it yet. I think many producers are having the same thought. I forgot what the name of that script was Robbie and a few others are using ... works with CCBill ....

gonzo
03-15-2009, 06:05 PM
If you are looking at clip sites for a solution for you to set and forget it - I think your going to be disappointed.

There are no easy solutions out there for sales especially in this economy.

Look at the credit card company article I posted. They are reducing credit levels to punk you to pay your arbitrary overage issue and punk you with a $35 fee.

Ive already given hints in another thread how to monitize your pay site using ClipClinc.

Even with the main theatre a set and forget solution isnt viable anymore.

Ill let you guys know when I have the project fully out of beta with the enhancments and tool sets that I requested.

Just dont be mad when you upload your clips and it takes me several days to get them reviewed because of the volume of uploads.

If both of you will give me the url to your stores on the site I will see what I can do about sharing some love for the short term.

MRock
03-15-2009, 08:53 PM
Hey Gonzo, I'm fully on board with Clip Clinic. I just added my store url's to my sig. Been meaning to do that for a while ... I'm anticipating the new tools and look forward to them. I don't expect anything to be a set and forget solution. My problem is only so many hours in the day and maximizing the return on my efforts. I've added another computer to my office so I can double my clip processing and posting ... I may need to add a third one. :yowsa:

One thing I would like to see is the cultivation of niche specific affiliates. This should be the big positive of an affiliate structured clip site. I know webmasters don't like Verotel for promoting Jills main site, but maybe they will consider selling Jill's clips through clipclinic, because they trust AEBN and may already be an affiliate. Or consider, we do not have an affiliate program for our strapon website, but a femdom/strapon webmaster could sell her content through clipclinic. A lot of possibilites.

I also think it would be cool to develop content for webmasters by request, and sell it through clipclinic. For example, Toby has a boots fetish site, Jill shoots some boot fetish clips, opens a boot fetish niche store, Toby sells the clips as an affiliate because he trusts AEBN/ClipClinic. We don't have to worry about running a site or an affiliate program. We just concentrate on fresh niche content shoots.

Toby
03-15-2009, 08:57 PM
For example, Toby has a boots fetish site, Jill shoots some boot fetish clips, opens a boot fetish niche store, Toby sells the clips as an affiliate because he trusts AEBN/ClipClinic. We don't have to worry about running a site or an affiliate program. We just concentrate on fresh niche content shoots.

That works for me. :)

I'm curious to see how well I'll be able filter the available clip content, and that really comes down to how well it's keyword tagged within the database.

MikeSouth
03-15-2009, 09:25 PM
mine is

http://www.clipclinic.com/store/default/view/name/amateur_bukkake

gonzo
03-16-2009, 08:50 AM
Hey Gonzo, I'm fully on board with Clip Clinic. I just added my store url's to my sig. Been meaning to do that for a while ... I'm anticipating the new tools and look forward to them. I don't expect anything to be a set and forget solution. My problem is only so many hours in the day and maximizing the return on my efforts. I've added another computer to my office so I can double my clip processing and posting ... I may need to add a third one. :yowsa:

One thing I would like to see is the cultivation of niche specific affiliates. This should be the big positive of an affiliate structured clip site. I know webmasters don't like Verotel for promoting Jills main site, but maybe they will consider selling Jill's clips through clipclinic, because they trust AEBN and may already be an affiliate. Or consider, we do not have an affiliate program for our strapon website, but a femdom/strapon webmaster could sell her content through clipclinic. A lot of possibilites.

I also think it would be cool to develop content for webmasters by request, and sell it through clipclinic. For example, Toby has a boots fetish site, Jill shoots some boot fetish clips, opens a boot fetish niche store, Toby sells the clips as an affiliate because he trusts AEBN/ClipClinic. We don't have to worry about running a site or an affiliate program. We just concentrate on fresh niche content shoots.

Thank you for your support.
To give a little background on this... I wasnt involved in the creation of ClipClinc. I was busy creating that first blast of spin for RealTouch and laying the groundwork for the next one your about to see.

The feedback Ive gotten from everyone here both offline and online has been invaluable. Keep in mind you havent seen this site in its final format yet.

What you will see in the short term are an excellent set of affiliate tools based around the next generation tool set you see for AEBN. The influx of extra traffic is coming NOW as well as a lot more in the near future.

The main page will take on a different look in the next few weeks that is more akin to more of a TUBE site. And we have planned to plug the finished product directly into our portfolio so that it doesnt have to stand alone.

gonzo
03-16-2009, 08:53 AM
mine is

http://www.clipclinic.com/store/default/view/name/amateur_bukkake
I see what you did there!

Mike is breaking away from the trends. Ultra high quality. A higher price and he used keywords for the store name.

This would be a good store to promote just based on the quality amd the keywords. An nobody explains bukakke in public like Mike South!

MikeSouth
03-16-2009, 02:59 PM
shit those aint even the Hidef versions I have those ready to go up...copy em to a cd or memory stick or dvd as datafiles and play em directly on your ps3 or xbox360 the quality is stunning on a 60 inch hdtv

gonzo
03-16-2009, 03:14 PM
shit those aint even the Hidef versions I have those ready to go up...copy em to a cd or memory stick or dvd as datafiles and play em directly on your ps3 or xbox360 the quality is stunning on a 60 inch hdtv
Or Jumpdrive.

See I understand what you did there. I only have a 47" though.

Its a good platform for people looking for true HD porn for sure.
Discovered all of that last year with Apple TV and the Boxee TV plug in.

Next Gen VOD is in the incubator...

MikeSouth
03-17-2009, 04:44 PM
I like the look of the clip clinic stores but man yall need to get some traffic there I sell my clips there for less than I sell them on C4S but still havent made the first sale.