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gonzo
03-14-2009, 01:40 PM
Found this which while I dont agree with 100% made for some interesting reading and I know some debate...

--The Herald

DESPITE a six-year jail term for fleecing his victims out of millions, Swiss gigolo Helg Sgarbi continued to look like the cat that got the keys to the cream factory. No wonder.

He had not only walked away with a relatively light sentence for fraud, attempted fraud and attempted blackmail, he refused to disclose where his £8m in loot is hidden, meaning a nice pension when he is free at 50. Sgarbi, few will be surprised to learn, is a former banker.

What's amazing is that he managed to snare women despite looking like the Mr Bean of gigolos. A puny streak of duplicity, he spoke six languages and could lie fluently in all of them. As he told police, he got away with emotional murder because he could "read women like a map: everything is signposted, each turn in the road".

It's a sad story of lonely females yearning for affection at any price. Yet we'll brush such thoughts aside because they are, quite frankly, too depressing. Instead, women should see the Sgarbi case not as an insult but as an opportunity to seize control of the sex industry for their own benefit. Okay, it may not be the acme of feminism as we were led to understand it, but we need something to occupy ourselves while waiting for equal pay.

How much nicer the sex industry would be if women were in charge. No more tacky magazines filled with dead-eyed types wearing flammable underwear. In their place pictures of strapping bucks in cashmere jumpers and well-tailored trousers, doing exotic acts such as unloading the dishwasher. Red-light districts would become conservation areas, with men invited into cars strictly for nice chats only.

In adult films, plumbers who arrived with large wrenches would actually unblock the sink for a reasonable fee. Movies with titles like Red Hot Love would turn out to be innocent capers involving Scots couples who cranked up the central heating so they could make love without socks on just once in their lifetimes.

It's all a pipe-and-slippers dream though. Women don't have the heart to be porn barons because they take feelings too seriously. Which reminds me of a radio interview I heard recently. In it, a male escort said one of his "ladies", a widow, told him that sex was just a long way round to a cuddle. In the case of the loathsome Sgarbi, it proved an awfully expensive journey for some.

AdorableAudrey
03-14-2009, 05:37 PM
Hmm what's he saying, all male producers are lying thieves and all female producers want to cover their stuff with hearts and flowers? I'm thinking this author hasn't met many people in the industry that manage to stay out of the news for doing something stupid.

Toby
03-14-2009, 05:49 PM
I've met some pretty shrewd business women in this industry, as well as a fair number that were not. I've also run across plenty of men that let emotion get in the way of doing business. I don't think gender has much relevance in that regard.

Hell Puppy
03-15-2009, 12:50 AM
I've met some pretty shrewd business women in this industry, as well as a fair number that were not. I've also run across plenty of men that let emotion get in the way of doing business. I don't think gender has much relevance in that regard.

Here's the thing...

Some people are cut to be shrewd business folks, some are not. It's not gender specific in that regard. Those that fail are often too dumb, have too many vices, no work ethic, make decisions with emotion instead of logic or whatever the case may be. Again, not gender specific...

BUT...

If you're a female in the adult world, you can go pretty far and build quite a name for yourself just based on being hot looking. Consequently when you then fail or decide to do something else with your life, EVERYONE knows it because of the visibility.

Males come and go all the time, lots more of them, but no one cares.

gonzo
03-15-2009, 01:09 PM
Males come and go all the time, lots more of them, but no one cares.
Someone has to got to troll myspace and Greyhound terminals to get new ass to whore out so they can buy a replacement camera for the money theyve stolen.

miz_wright
03-16-2009, 08:58 AM
In their place pictures of strapping bucks in cashmere jumpers and well-tailored trousers, doing exotic acts such as unloading the dishwasher. Red-light districts would become conservation areas, with men invited into cars strictly for nice chats only.

Y'know, this always bugs the TEE-TOTAL SHIT outta me.

it reminds me of this book (http://www.amazon.com/Women-Cambridge-Womens-Pornography-Cooperative/dp/0811855511):
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZhzzZdTzL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg

Not because they're bogus as shit, but 'cos they perpetuate the complete ghettoisation of feminine sexuality under the dubious guide of "feminism." As someone who has long proudly borne the mantle of feminist - even when roundly and soundly derided for same - I find this idea that women don't like sex doubly galling.

Didn't we go through this more than two centuries ago, when freakin' Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley and Abigail Adams and Elizabeth Cady Stanton were writing about the insidious stupidity inherent in the idea of the "fairer sex?" I'm pretty sure we did.

Don't even get me started on the idea it puts forth that we, as women, aren't capable of doing "meaningful" work in the logical extrapolation of theory here because our emotions will get in the way.

gonzo
03-16-2009, 01:44 PM
In their place pictures of strapping bucks in cashmere jumpers and well-tailored trousers, doing exotic acts such as unloading the dishwasher. Red-light districts would become conservation areas, with men invited into cars strictly for nice chats only.

Y'know, this always bugs the TEE-TOTAL SHIT outta me.

it reminds me of this book (http://www.amazon.com/Women-Cambridge-Womens-Pornography-Cooperative/dp/0811855511):
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZhzzZdTzL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg

Not because they're bogus as shit, but 'cos they perpetuate the complete ghettoisation of feminine sexuality under the dubious guide of "feminism." As someone who has long proudly borne the mantle of feminist - even when roundly and soundly derided for same - I find this idea that women don't like sex doubly galling.

Didn't we go through this more than two centuries ago, when freakin' Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley and Abigail Adams and Elizabeth Cady Stanton were writing about the insidious stupidity inherent in the idea of the "fairer sex?" I'm pretty sure we did.

Don't even get me started on the idea it puts forth that we, as women, aren't capable of doing "meaningful" work in the logical extrapolation of theory here because our emotions will get in the way.

Dont be trying to make too much sense.
Afterall if too many of you show any business game then what will us guys do?

You already control 100% of the content.

miz_wright
03-16-2009, 03:04 PM
Dont be trying to make too much sense.
Afterall if too many of you show any business game then what will us guys do?

You already control 100% of the content.

Sorry, Gonzo: there I go, usin' the big words again.

That's DUMB.

Better?
;P

gonzo
03-17-2009, 04:09 PM
Sorry, Gonzo: there I go, usin' the big words again.

That's DUMB.

Better?
;P

Big words are ok as long as you articulate them well. Besides you give the best advice so you have a pass for 6 months at least!

miz_wright
03-18-2009, 11:11 AM
Big words are ok as long as you articulate them well. Besides you give the best advice so you have a pass for 6 months at least!

I try to make sure that when I use the words, I am using them properly and well. I also try to give decent advice, so I am glad to know it's appreciated.

In other news, I wonder what it means when some of the biggest brains in the business belong to women in power? And I wonder if the author of that original piece is aware how many XX-chromosome holders are making the decisions that are so clearly "anti-woman"?

gonzo
03-18-2009, 01:06 PM
I try to make sure that when I use the words, I am using them properly and well. I also try to give decent advice, so I am glad to know it's appreciated.

In other news, I wonder what it means when some of the biggest brains in the business belong to women in power? And I wonder if the author of that original piece is aware how many XX-chromosome holders are making the decisions that are so clearly "anti-woman"?

Probably not.

When have you known the media outside of industry to even try to bother to do some fact checking,

miz_wright
03-24-2009, 03:15 PM
Probably not.

When have you known the media outside of industry to even try to bother to do some fact checking,

Or in it :P

MsKimmi
03-24-2009, 06:27 PM
Uh no, Gonzo... I completely disagree with that article. That author has apparently never spoken to a real webmistress before. How sad... I bet I could sell him on some tranny... hmm...

gonzo
03-24-2009, 08:27 PM
Uh no, Gonzo... I completely disagree with that article. That author has apparently never spoken to a real webmistress before. How sad... I bet I could sell him on some tranny... hmm...

Get it girl!
And welcome back to the game.

MsKimmi
03-24-2009, 10:01 PM
Thanks baby! Glad to be back!