An observation on the current business...

[softball]

I have noticed in the past few months on various boards...including Oprano, that there is a chill in the air. There is a lot of bickering over small issues and small sums. There is a lot of finger pointing at ex "partners" for various problems, failures, and scams. There is wave of insults and attempts to trash people's businesses (competition?). And there are a lot of cash programme failures, or businesses on the market at some very "attractive" prices. There seems to be a war in the content world with big undercutting sales. All in all a malaise in the porn world.
When anyone mentions the "downturn" in the economy, there are the usual "I'm kicking ass this month" responses, and maybe some are. However, more and more are agreeing. The specter of tube sites is everywhere. The same people that are bitching about them on one board, are asking for advice on how to start one or monetize them on another.
All in all it ain't pretty. For the first time ever, it kind of feels that the market is very, very oversold and there is a frenzy of panic.
This might be a little colourful, but I do feel a chill in the air.

[gonzo]

I have noticed in the past few months on various boards...including Oprano, that there is a chill in the air. There is a lot of bickering over small issues and small sums. There is a lot of finger pointing at ex "partners" for various problems, failures, and scams. There is wave of insults and attempts to trash people's businesses (competition?). And there are a lot of cash programme failures, or businesses on the market at some very "attractive" prices. There seems to be a war in the content world with big undercutting sales. All in all a malaise in the porn world.
When anyone mentions the "downturn" in the economy, there are the usual "I'm kicking ass this month" responses, and maybe some are. However, more and more are agreeing. The specter of tube sites is everywhere. The same people that are bitching about them on one board, are asking for advice on how to start one or monetize them on another.
All in all it ain't pretty. For the first time ever, it kind of feels that the market is very, very oversold and there is a frenzy of panic.
This might be a little colourful, but I do feel a chill in the air.

Sit back and enjoy the ride!
I am.

[Toby]

I think the observation is more or less accurate. There is definitely a thinning of the herd taking place, and not just in the adult biz.

Some will depart gracefully, others will go down in flames, and there's always some trying to find a way to make a quick buck on other's misfortune.

[helix]

As the profit margins get tight, the business's that run a tight ship will survive. The business's that employ a fast and sloppy business plan will die off, be absorbed, sell out etc..

Fresh from GFY
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=823774

[miz_wright]

I'm laothe to blame something like tube sites - for a lot of reasons, but primary among them is that every time there are economic uncertainties in the broader market, there are a few things that happen:

1) Shoppers begin looking more often at deep-discount items,
2) Small business owners have a harder time staying afloat,
3) Credit begins to tighten. and
4) Marktes as a whole contract and consolodate.

Why should adult be any different? and most everything that you mention (backbiting, etc) are very common when times are tight. And a lot fo the things I am seeing mentioned here I think are strongly attributable to the larger economic picture. It's tough to justify paying for porn when you're looking at paying $40 to fill an economy car - and much, much more if you drive anything with horsepower - and you are looking down the barrel of a tightening job market.

[softball]

As the profit margins get tight, the business's that run a tight ship will survive. The business's that employ a fast and sloppy business plan will die off, be absorbed, sell out etc..

Fresh from GFY
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=823774

Interesting thread.....

[gonzo]

Interesting thread.....
Traffic matters. Lets see how much it matters to some of Freeones sponsors.

[MRock]

Fuck it ... I'm expanding! :yowsa: It's never as bad as it's made out to be (the economy), and it's ony "bad" until another fiasco happens for some more sensational coverage. Here is an honest disclosure: Had a few more chargebacks than usual this month, but my sales are steady or up on all of my little gumball machines .... :okthumb: The coolest thing about being amateur is that it's just us, no partners or investors to answer to. The fray you refer is amusing and I'm gonna take a seat next to Gonzo to watch.

[softball]

Fuck it ... I'm expanding! :yowsa: It's never as bad as it's made out to be (the economy), and it's ony "bad" until another fiasco happens for some more sensational coverage. Here is an honest disclosure: Had a few more chargebacks than usual this month, but my sales are steady or up on all of my little gumball machines .... :okthumb: The coolest thing about being amateur is that it's just us, no partners or investors to answer to. The fray you refer is amusing and I'm gonna take a seat next to Gonzo to watch.

Good luck to you.....the sand is just around the corner. You will recognize it by the number of guys with their heads buried in the pile.
I never said it was catastrophic, but there is a huge economic problem in the world at the moment. If Walmart is feeling it, everyone is feeling it.

[gonzo]

...there is a huge economic problem in the world at the moment. If Walmart is feeling it, everyone is feeling it.

:-pearl:

[Forest]

Gonzo you fucking piece of shit you owe me a box of KK

Ill get you and your little dog too

[gonzo]

Gonzo you fucking piece of shit you owe me a box of KK

Ill get you and your little dog too
You dont eat no KK any more Mr Egg White Omlette!

[Forest]

You dont eat no KK any more Mr Egg White Omlette!

darn foiled again

=(

[bluemoney]

"I'm kicking ass this month" :D

[softball]

I'm laothe to blame something like tube sites - for a lot of reasons, but primary among them is that every time there are economic uncertainties in the broader market, there are a few things that happen:

1) Shoppers begin looking more often at deep-discount items,
2) Small business owners have a harder time staying afloat,
3) Credit begins to tighten. and
4) Marktes as a whole contract and consolodate.

Why should adult be any different? and most everything that you mention (backbiting, etc) are very common when times are tight. And a lot fo the things I am seeing mentioned here I think are strongly attributable to the larger economic picture. It's tough to justify paying for porn when you're looking at paying $40 to fill an economy car - and much, much more if you drive anything with horsepower - and you are looking down the barrel of a tightening job market.
But porn is "recession proof".....lol
BTW, if you know anyone that needs a job, there is a huge labour shortage in Western Canada. Some businesses have gone under because they can't get staff. There are help wanted signs all over Vancouver and construction cranes everywhere. If you can hold a hammer you are working. However,its the American economy that unfortunately makes up a huge per centage of our business.

[softball]

"I'm kicking ass this month" :D

Sorry....I am a little deef....you say you got your ass kicked this month?

[bluemoney]

Sorry....I am a little deef....you say you got your ass kicked this month?
Yes! . . . . .

You are most defiantly “deef”

[softball]

Yes! . . . . .

You are most defiantly “deef”
Sorry, I couldn't here you. Would you mind speaking up?

[DannyCox]

As the profit margins get tight, the business's that run a tight ship will survive. The business's that employ a fast and sloppy business plan will die off, be absorbed, sell out etc..

Fresh from GFY
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=823774

I just read through this thread and I can't believe the sheep just falling in line. Freeones wants everyone to pay them 70% because they are feeling the crunch....talk about short sighted idiots! Right there is your "fast and sloppy business plan", a company that just bounces really shit traffic around trying to dictate percentages to the sponsors they use to pay their bills. But the sad thing is, many of the sheep will fall for it. Not only are the sponsors working with a weak dollar, they will be get even less of it, and many think it's just fine.

Years ago, when the boys were swinging their dicks around, showing off about who could pay out more, and raising RevShare to 50%, I thought they were just plain crazy. It made no business sense whatsoever. Now we're hitting on 70% pay-outs! Madness, and a fully failing business model.

[softball]

But the sad thing is, many of the sheep will fall for it.

But Danny, that is just business. From what I saw, they will get what they want. Personally, I don't give a shit. They will be the first adopters of this, and ultimately it will kill the golden goose. However, many will make a killing out of adversity, and these guys are really fucking smart. But they have the converting traffic.

[DannyCox]

They don't really have converting traffic at all, they just manipulate a lot of it well. They throw enough at a program in hopes that some will stick. You'll get lots of traffic, but the conversion ratios are low. Lots of blinds and old fashioned circle jerk stuff.

But as I mentioned, they will get what they ask for as the sheep over at the zoo will just fall in line. A smart program would call them on it, and probably are in private. As we all know, real business is never done on the boards.

[softball]

They don't really have converting traffic at all, they just manipulate a lot of it well. They throw enough at a program in hopes that some will stick. You'll get lots of traffic, but the conversion ratios are low. Lots of blinds and old fashioned circle jerk stuff.

But as I mentioned, they will get what they ask for as the sheep over at the zoo will just fall in line. A smart program would call them on it, and probably are in private. As we all know, real business is never done on the boards.

Shit I do all my business on the boards.....lol......
I do think, like I said, the first adopters will do ok. Its like the price of gasoline. They send it up to a buck thirty seven a liter and then we all think a buck twenty is a bargain. It is freeking altered reality. Sorry about the metric for our American friends, but gallons don't mean a lot to me anymore.

But I do think they crossed some lines. The good news is, a lot of people are going to disappear in the next six months and what is going to replace them will not be as good. I have never really thought that until now.

[helix]

They don't really have converting traffic at all, they just manipulate a lot of it well. They throw enough at a program in hopes that some will stick. You'll get lots of traffic, but the conversion ratios are low. Lots of blinds and old fashioned circle jerk stuff.

But as I mentioned, they will get what they ask for as the sheep over at the zoo will just fall in line. A smart program would call them on it, and probably are in private. As we all know, real business is never done on the boards.

As the "sheep" knuckle under we will witness the thinning of the herd. Culling of the weak and feeble will be a good thing for the industry. Too many substandard paysites and unsustainable tube business models eating at the customer base for too long. I think this is just the beginning. We have already seen some consolidation and some absorption of minor sites to flesh out the niches of the smarter, bigger, well managed sites, ie DeeCash. I really think we will see a huge turnover and churning in the industry in the next few months. It will make for an interesting show for sure.

[DragonKing]

Chicken Little Rears His Little Ugly Head
Once Again ....


He makes more Cameos in this business than Puffy in a Bad Boy Video.

[miz_wright]

But porn is "recession proof".....lol
BTW, if you know anyone that needs a job, there is a huge labour shortage in Western Canada. Some businesses have gone under because they can't get staff. There are help wanted signs all over Vancouver and construction cranes everywhere. If you can hold a hammer you are working. However,its the American economy that unfortunately makes up a huge per centage of our business.

*cracks up at "recession proof"*

Sure, it's a lagging indicator, but if people simply have got less money to spend (and let's face it: stateside, they do, and according to global market news, it's affecting other markets as well - much like the Japanese econ explosion back in '98 blew up Asia and Europe) - they are certainly going to prioritise where it's going. Teh pr0ns are going to be down that list a bit, typically.

I mean, I'm less willing to go out and buy the new issue of Club when my econobox takes $50 to fill with petrol, is all I'm sayin'.

[gonzo]

*cracks up at "recession proof"*

Sure, it's a lagging indicator, but if people simply have got less money to spend (and let's face it: stateside, they do, and according to global market news, it's affecting other markets as well - much like the Japanese econ explosion back in '98 blew up Asia and Europe) - they are certainly going to prioritise where it's going. Teh pr0ns are going to be down that list a bit, typically.

I mean, I'm less willing to go out and buy the new issue of Club when my econobox takes $50 to fill with petrol, is all I'm sayin'.
We discuss all these issues at the safety meeting.

[gonzo]

They don't really have converting traffic at all, they just manipulate a lot of it well. They throw enough at a program in hopes that some will stick. You'll get lots of traffic, but the conversion ratios are low. Lots of blinds and old fashioned circle jerk stuff.

But as I mentioned, they will get what they ask for as the sheep over at the zoo will just fall in line. A smart program would call them on it, and probably are in private. As we all know, real business is never done on the boards.

Ahhhh Danny Cox wise man!
Why programs allow affiliates to dictate their business model is beyond me.
70% rev share --- only a MORON would give that away instead of going out and buying their own traffic.

I think affilaites got into this habit back with all the rules you had to follow to get your TGP listed with some of the post owners.

They lose sight of the fact that a post owner is there to make THEMSELVES money FIRST and anyone else DEAD LAST.

[Toby]

...They lose sight of the fact that a post owner is there to make THEMSELVES money FIRST and anyone else DEAD LAST.
As Tommy says, "1 for them, 2 for me." :okthumb:

[softball]

Chicken Little Rears His Little Ugly Head
Once Again ....


He makes more Cameos in this business than Puffy in a Bad Boy Video.

I had a feeling this post too would reappear. However, this is a different situation than previous sky crashing situations. The US economy will prolly never recover its total dominance thanks to the last 8 years of breath taking spending. The dollar is weaker than its been in decades....if ever. Gas prices are approaching the scary numbers of the gas "crisis" of the 70's. All that is left to put the icing on the cake is inflation. I recall when the price of butter tripled in a month.
This time chicken little has a few more arrows in his quiver. The previous doomsayers were more worried about free porn and 2257 which was always a non starter in my books and I posted pretty much what you just said, DK. But there are bigger influences at work today. I don't think everything is going to crash and burn for everybody, but the heady days are over. The "soft" landing has arrived and this time, those who don't have good traffic and good product are facing some serious problems (I have always hated challenge as a euphemism).
So I don't think this is necessarily an "end of the world" observation, but times are not as optimistic and opportunities not as easily available, and yes only the strong will survive. You see I do believe in Darwin.

[softball]

Banner Headline in my local paper today was World Wide Food Crisis. Here is a bit of the article....

Soaring prices on everything from food to gasoline walloped consumers Thursday as the Bank of Canada warned of weaker economic growth to come -- new evidence the U.S. recession has deepened and is dragging down other sectors of the economy as it continues to slide.
Basic food items are becoming more scarce and the price of those commodities is soaring, matched only by the rapid increase in the cost of gasoline. Food shortages, hoarding by producing countries and a pernicious cycle of energy prices driving up production costs are only making the situation worse.
Maple Leaf Foods Inc., one of Canada's largest food processors, reported a loss on Thursday due to soaring costs for grain used in its bakeries and hog barns.
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"These are stunningly, stunningly challenging and unique times," chief executive Michael McCain told shareholders at the company's annual meeting.
"The world is embroiled with absorbing the implications of the simple truth that food will be considerably more expensive, well into the future," he said.
Food riots have spread from Haiti to Thailand and panic buying has even hit North America -- Wal-Mart has imposed rice rationing in the United States because of shrinking supplies and Bruce Cran, president of the Consumers Association of Canada, said he was told that store shelves were being emptied of rice in British Columbia.


This state of fear is what is fueling Chicken Little and this time we all have to deal with it.

[Rcourt64]

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The "I hope his dick still gets hard again tomorrow" sales strategies is
what your fuckers need to be looking at, not what the price of rice is...:doh01:

[Robert]

Nitwit....

[miz_wright]

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The "I hope his dick still gets hard again tomorrow" sales strategies is
what your fuckers need to be looking at, not what the price of rice is...:doh01:


He'll be yankin' his crank tomorrow, regardless. The question is: does he pay for the spank bank, or grab something free?

When the decision comes down between food or petrol, fewer will say "Oh, I'll totally shell out for the new PornStar Update."

'm pretty sure that was his point. But I may be mistaken.

[Rcourt64]

He'll be yankin' his crank tomorrow, regardless. The question is: does he pay for the spank bank, or grab something free?

When the decision comes down between food or petrol, fewer will say "Oh, I'll totally shell out for the new PornStar Update."

'm pretty sure that was his point. But I may be mistaken.

I'm sorry Liz, :( I disagree.

Addictions comes first before the kids eat in this country. :salute:

[EmporerEJ]

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The "I hope his dick still gets hard again tomorrow" sales strategies is
what your fuckers need to be looking at, not what the price of rice is...:doh01:

Spelling, grammar, and sentence structure, should also be high on the list.

[Rcourt64]

Spelling, grammar, and sentence structure, should also be high on the list.
We don't need to know how to spell, we just gotta know how to drive trucks :okthumb:

[miz_wright]

Spelling, grammar, and sentence structure, should also be high on the list.

Oh, come now, EJ: Don't let's be ridiculous.

[Rcourt64]

Oh, come now, EJ: Don't let's be ridiculous.

See, your learning, I'll have your tomboy premadonna ass trained in no time. :okthumb:

[gonzo]

See, your learning, I'll have your tomboy premadonna ass trained in no time. :okthumb:
How much will you pay for this video on Liz dancing?

[Rcourt64]

How much will you pay for this video on Liz dancing?

Depends on what shes wearing while dancing ;)

[gonzo]

Depends on what shes wearing while dancing ;)
It wasnt much

[Rcourt64]

It wasnt much

:yowsa: Oh? really??? ya im intersted then,
throw a number my way, and there better be some cleavage involved with this dancing

[gonzo]

:yowsa: Oh? really??? ya im intersted then,
throw a number my way, and there better be some cleavage involved with this dancing
Ill throw in the full video of AJ doing his clown preformance too....

[Rcourt64]

Ill throw in the full video of AJ doing his clown preformance too....

I got a truck full of blow up mannequins that needs to be in Miami by 3pm.
and since I pulled over at the truck stop to play with them, I'm running late now. GOTTA ROOOLLLLLL !!!
So let me know how much? :)

[EmporerEJ]

Oh, come now, EJ: Don't let's be ridiculous.

One can hope?....

[RawAlex]

The biggest issue facing the industry is poor grammar and a failure to use proper punctuation. If everyone did it right, we would all be billionaires.

Yes, this is the answer.

[Rcourt64]

AGAIN>>> cuz i feel like a broken record now, since we've been thru this before:

In a country that consist of spelling one word 5 different ways,
but pronounce it ALL the same way?
And where words spelled in one format but are pronounced or sentenced a TOTALLY different way. No where near the way spelt.
Then sorry people, I have no respect for your language from the get go.

[EmporerEJ]

AGAIN>>> cuz i feel like a broken record now, since we've been thru this before:

In a country that consist of spelling one word 5 different ways,
but pronounce it ALL the same way?
And where words spelled in one format but are pronounced or sentenced a TOTALLY different way. No where near the way spelt.
Then sorry people, I have no respect for your language from the get go.

Oh, that's all right...it's not easy to be an American. If it were, you could all be one of US. (Get the little pun, there?)
But, we like you anyhow. You keep working at it, and maybe, one day, we'll let you in!

[Rcourt64]

Oh, that's all right...it's not easy to be an American. If it were, you could all be one of US. (Get the little pun, there?)
But, we like you anyhow. You keep working at it, and maybe, one day, we'll let you in!

GET BACK TO WORK DUDE
http://myadg.com/op-2008/gepetto2.jpg

What progression have you to show these past few months ?

[Greg B]

I agree with Gonzo. We've both been around for over a decade at this biz.

What I'm seeing is like in any industry there are the incompetent and the greedy who fuck up things. It's that simple.

You have people who've made tons of money in this biz only to piss it away on dope and gambling and other stupid shit instead of putting things away for a rainy day.

I never did this full time because it was so easy. Only last 18 months or so I got attacked by some assholes who if you know the story are no longer in the biz. Their shit failed and several more now owe me money from court losses. Yes you have people undermining other people but that's why you have lawyers so they can go after the fuckheads.

I had to do diagnostics and damage control over the past year and it was fun. Found some new affiliates that actually convert, new strategies, new allies. I whittled everything down to the basics and to the bone so that the final responsibility would just be me and my artwork. It's never ever failed. I can now sit back and just draw toons and do little maintenance. I'm literally only a wee bit away from retiring on this income on a default basis.

In the meantime I don't sit on my ass I still look for the next way to make more capital.

I've found so many people in this biz are full of more shit than a constipated elephant. You find out when it's time to pay. I don't even deal with people who can't back up what they say. I've spent a good six figures on legals in the past few years straightening out a few assholes in this biz and more are on the way although they don't know it til it's too late.

It was high time I started cleaning house anyway.

So for me, one's status in this biz is in direct reflection to one's willingness to take responsibility for oneself.

Bottom line, it's who you hang out with.

[catfightreport]

:clapping:Ron Paul!:clapping:

:okthumb:

[sarettah]

:clapping:Ron Paul!:clapping:

:okthumb:


Um.. Good luck with that :blink:

[catfightreport]

Um.. Good luck with that :blink:

lol.

yea.

I had to throw it out there anyway. haha.

[deviant]

Given the fact that I have been personally "researching" tube sites for some time, I don't think they have what it takes to destroy paysites. Usually the content is pretty lame and scattered. Paysites on the other hand generally follow a specific theme or niche, once you find a paysite that you like, you don't have to weed through a mountain of crap to find the content you like and time is money.

Unfortunately, I'm no expert.

[gonzo]

Given the fact that I have been personally "researching" tube sites for some time, I don't think they have what it takes to destroy paysites. Usually the content is pretty lame and scattered. Paysites on the other hand generally follow a specific theme or niche, once you find a paysite that you like, you don't have to weed through a mountain of crap to find the content you like and time is money.

Unfortunately, I'm no expert.
Devvvvvvvvv hahahaha

This arguement has been going on for sometime.
First it was pop ups,free sites,circle jerks,TGPs,MGPs etc etc.
While I do agree that this industry as a whole gives away way too much I hardly think that tube sites as a whole are going to destroy pay sites.

Program owners need to invest just as much effort as they do on those tours to the actual content in the members area.

Relying on a consumer to retain just because he forgets is lame when Im certain that if you give them what they expect and continue to update that monthly- the rebills will come in.

Its easier for program owners to complain that tube sites are destroying their busines than to issue a DCMA against some of these sites.

[Toby]

...I have been personally "researching" tube sites for some time, I don't think they have what it takes to destroy paysites. Usually the content is pretty lame and scattered...

I'll agree with that to only a small degree. Tube sites are not nearly as big a threat to niche specific paysites as they are to general hardcore paysites. The niche specific video content is somewhat limited and therefore pretty much gets lost among the general hardcore on most tube sites.

[deviant]

Devvvvvvvvv hahahaha


Oh yeah, I'd better watch what I say, I forgot mama bear can see me here. :scratchin

First it was pop ups,free sites,circle jerks,TGPs,MGPs etc etc.

That's why I think tube sites are just the latest phase and will end up being nothing more than marketing for sites with real content. The reason I believe this is perhaps a little crass but think about it. What is the average consumer of this product doing? What is his or her motivation for pursuing this content? Does he/she really want to spend 10minutes looking for a short clip, then have to stop and wait while hunting for something else to put things back in business? After a while of this, I would imagine the consumer would grow tired, find a clip that they like, its source, and sign up there. Again, I could be wrong, but I think tube sites will become the next marketing strategy for paysites.

People who aren't going to pay for content, aren't going to pay for content. If it's not tube sites, it's torrents and peer-to-peer networks.

[Toby]

...Does he/she really want to spend 10minutes looking for a short clip...
But... many of these tube site have much longer clips. 5, 10, 20 and even 30 minutes.

There's a huge difference between legal tube sites with approved sponsor clips and illegal tube sites with clips stolen from member areas.

Legal tube sites aren't really all that much different than MGP's. Illegal tube sites are another story entirely.

[ali25extreme]

I have been on the free sites..they are a quick fix but a huge mess. Quaility is worth paying for..that is the type of traffic I want anyway..those who know what they want and like what I offer! As long as I do my job correctly I should have no problem with the competition!;)

[DannyCox]

I have played around with various "tube" sites with Carol's videos. I have the one minute teaser's we use in the free area that I submit. These have the URL clearly on them. But how they really work I have no idea, as the problem is there is no tracking. You have to rely on people typing in the URL from what they see on the video, and you know how lazy most surfers are!

[deviant]

I actually just added a MGP style tube portion to my site, I import a series of 30 second flash movies and below each video provide a link to the sponsor's website where the viewer can download the whole clip. That's really the way to go. Otherwise, I agree, users are too lazy to type (seriously). There is also a way to implement clickable ads in the flash videos which is cool, how you do that, I'm not completely sure. I wouldn't want to host videos on my site if it wasn't easy to get back to the sponsor, it just seems like a loose loose situation.

[gonzo]

I actually just added a MGP style tube portion to my site, I import a series of 30 second flash movies and below each video provide a link to the sponsor's website where the viewer can download the whole clip. That's really the way to go. Otherwise, I agree, users are too lazy to type (seriously). There is also a way to implement clickable ads in the flash videos which is cool, how you do that, I'm not completely sure. I wouldn't want to host videos on my site if it wasn't easy to get back to the sponsor, it just seems like a loose loose situation.
Flash can run a blur...put the url in a window behind the active page. I can tell you I used to use that with the old asf video format MS had several years ago. It was a great way to monitize the old peer to peer traffic.

[EmporerEJ]

GET BACK TO WORK DUDE
http://myadg.com/op-2008/gepetto2.jpg

What progression have you to show these past few months ?

Now THAT is funny.....
I LIKE that picture!

I think I ought to use that in my AutoBiography.

[EmporerEJ]

GET BACK TO WORK DUDE


What progression have you to show these past few months ?


And to respond to your comment...
Been working very hard past several months. We are VERY close to the new factory open.
We just finished painting the second floor.
Then the gears are gonna fly!
More production space, more employees, etc.