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Nymph
08-05-2007, 01:41 PM
I was just curious if anyone here also does mainstream sites.

I do recipe, gardening, and metaphysical sites in addition to doing my adult sites.

I find it to be a welcome deversion...sometimes I just get tired of looking at naked people ;)

Rcourt64
08-05-2007, 02:47 PM
"Tired of looking at naked people" !!! What's wrong with you girl??? :blink:
Then stay off the boards, Cuz what you have might be contagious.

P.S. Get mental help NOW :okthumb:

sarettah
08-05-2007, 02:54 PM
I was just curious if anyone here also does mainstream sites.

I do recipe, gardening, and metaphysical sites in addition to doing my adult sites.

I find it to be a welcome deversion...sometimes I just get tired of looking at naked people ;)

Well, you know I have a couple. duh.

bluemoney
08-05-2007, 03:28 PM
I've been toying with the idea myself.

How about posting a link to one your sites, I would be interested in seeing one.

Hell Puppy
08-05-2007, 04:59 PM
I was just curious if anyone here also does mainstream sites.


Yes.

Hammer
08-05-2007, 08:26 PM
Yup.

Doktor_Scarecrow
08-05-2007, 09:42 PM
I never get tired of looking at naked people....:yowsa:

softball
08-05-2007, 10:23 PM
I was just curious if anyone here also does mainstream sites.

I do recipe, gardening, and metaphysical sites in addition to doing my adult sites.

I find it to be a welcome deversion...sometimes I just get tired of looking at naked people ;)

Adult webmasters have a pretty "Liberal" view of mainstream. This question gets asked frequently, and the responses are both predictable and questionable at best. My definition of mainstream is something you can discuss at the dinner table with aunt Edna. I believe you will find this is not the case around here. It is the holy grail of porn to get out of it and become "accepted". Kind of like Joe Kennedy. But the fact is that we are purveyors of dirty pictures and if you even use the term "mainstream", you are not.

Toby
08-05-2007, 10:28 PM
I was just curious if anyone here also does mainstream sites.
Yes, and I'll leave it at that. For obvious reasons I keep them separate from my adult sites.

softball
08-05-2007, 10:29 PM
Yes, and I'll leave it at that. For obvious reasons I keep them separate from my adult sites.
Prolly a hobby, though. I would guess and bet the dirty pictures is how you pay your rent.

gonzo
08-06-2007, 12:48 AM
I have a few as well. And there was a couple of good panels on it in Miami

zand_stein
08-06-2007, 01:41 AM
A lot of sites views nude photos and its every where..........
Im tired also at looking at them........

Rcourt64
08-06-2007, 02:02 AM
It is the holy grail of porn to get out of it and become "accepted". Kind of like Joe Kennedy.

:lmao1:

Nymph
08-06-2007, 08:31 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone....

Rcourt,
If I stayed off the boards, you'd miss me. :rolleyes:

sarettah,
Yes, I know you & your lovely have mainstream sites. Duh.

bluemoney,
If you need any encouragement, hit me up, I'd be glad to help in any way I can.

rhetorical,
I agree with your Aunt Edna scenerio. I have never said I was getting out of porn, it's just a welcome deversion for me to do something else. As for the "we are purveyors of dirty pictures" I don't think everyone that does porn is. The pics never did much for me to be honest, but I do like a good story.

Toby,
I understand, I'm the same way, that's why I didn't post any links to mine.

gonzo,
I would like to hear more about those panels if you have a mind to share.

Again, I thank everyone for their replies, I was just curious :)

Jace
08-06-2007, 08:37 PM
sure. I have tons of mainsteram sites, I generally do it for the adsense revenue but I also sell quite a bit using cj.com

Jace
08-06-2007, 08:39 PM
Adult webmasters have a pretty "Liberal" view of mainstream. This question gets asked frequently, and the responses are both predictable and questionable at best. My definition of mainstream is something you can discuss at the dinner table with aunt Edna. I believe you will find this is not the case around here. It is the holy grail of porn to get out of it and become "accepted". Kind of like Joe Kennedy. But the fact is that we are purveyors of dirty pictures and if you even use the term "mainstream", you are not.

not sure where you get your facts from, but myself and the other adult industry people I work with have tons of sites in various niches of the mainstream world

I do a lot of travel/vacation and insurance news/resource sites, and a few electronics deals sites...and I would venture to say at least 25% of my income comes from mainstream

my dad and I also work together on a lot of online travel stuff....we do quite well with it actually

Nymph
08-06-2007, 08:41 PM
sure. I have tons of mainsteram sites, I generally do it for the adsense revenue but I also sell quite a bit using cj.com

Thanks Jace, I do pretty well with adsense, but never could turn a buck with cj :(

ps...try amazon too

sarettah
08-06-2007, 08:42 PM
not sure where you get your facts from,


Psssst.. Jace...um, he usually makes them up :okthumb:

Toby
08-06-2007, 08:43 PM
Prolly a hobby, though. I would guess and bet the dirty pictures is how you pay your rent.Guess all you like, what difference does it make? :scratchin

Jace
08-06-2007, 08:49 PM
Thanks Jace, I do pretty well with adsense, but never could turn a buck with cj :(

ps...try amazon too

man, I have this kickass script that takes the rss from amazon.com and inserts my affiliate code in there and reprints the rss feed

I need to get around to using it

Jace
08-06-2007, 08:50 PM
Psssst.. Jace...um, he usually makes them up :okthumb:

hey man, hit me up on icq real quick. got another script idea for you....could make you quite a bit of money actually

Nymph
08-06-2007, 08:59 PM
man, I have this kickass script that takes the rss from amazon.com and inserts my affiliate code in there and reprints the rss feed

I need to get around to using it

Ohhh, that sounds cool. I have one that uses their web services, and another that uses their product feeds. Both were real easy to get up & going.

sarettah
08-06-2007, 08:59 PM
hey man, hit me up on icq real quick. got another script idea for you....could make you quite a bit of money actually

I'm only on icq when I'm it says I'm not.........:yowsa:

softball
08-06-2007, 09:00 PM
Psssst.. Jace...um, he usually makes them up :okthumb:

Psst....Sarettah, you if you possess a dictionary (if not there is dictionary.com but it is just American) you might want to look up "facts". These, my literate friend, cannot be made up.

softball
08-06-2007, 09:01 PM
not sure where you get your facts from, but myself and the other adult industry people I work with have tons of sites in various niches of the mainstream world

I do a lot of travel/vacation and insurance news/resource sites, and a few electronics deals sites...and I would venture to say at least 25% of my income comes from mainstream

my dad and I also work together on a lot of online travel stuff....we do quite well with it actually
Reselling?

Toby
08-06-2007, 09:03 PM
Psst....Sarettah, you if you possess a dictionary (if not there is dictionary.com but it is just American) you might want to look up "facts". These, my literate friend, cannot be made up.Once again you make an issue of sematics rather than substance.

softball
08-06-2007, 09:07 PM
Once again you make an issue of sematics rather than substance.

That was not a matter of semantics my pedantic friend. But if it was, why is that a problem? You are also entitled to argue thuis. It is the English language we use to communicate and sell our products, no? So WTF is wrong with using it when confronted by moronic posts?

Toby
08-06-2007, 09:10 PM
That was not a matter of semantics my pedantic friend. But if it was, why is that a problem? You are also entitled to argue thuis. It is the English language we use to communicate and sell our products, no? So WTF is wrong with using it when confronted by moronic posts?

T'is no different than attacking the messenger rather than the message. It's something you do consistantly. I'm not sure if you do it to delierately side track the discussion, or if you're just that bloody obsessive.

softball
08-06-2007, 09:21 PM
T'is no different than attacking the messenger rather than the message. It's something you do consistantly. I'm not sure if you do it to delierately side track the discussion, or if you're just that bloody obsessive.

Nope. It is neither. I actually don't do "it". That is your opinion. The sentence can hardly be construed as the messenger. The messenger delivers the message. I was responding to what I consider verbage. No more no less. Do you consider that semantics? I don't.

Hammer
08-06-2007, 09:27 PM
I like pie.

softball
08-06-2007, 09:28 PM
I like pie.

Funny, I am about to eat some.....apple. The dinner bell just rung.

sarettah
08-06-2007, 09:37 PM
Psst....Sarettah, you if you possess a dictionary (if not there is dictionary.com but it is just American) you might want to look up "facts". These, my literate friend, cannot be made up.

Is that a fact? :yowsa:

Toby
08-06-2007, 10:05 PM
..Do you consider that semantics? I don't.Yes, I certainly do consider that to be sematics. It most certainly has little or nothing to do with the topic du jour, and criticizing the grammar/verbage is indeed attacking the messenger.

The only reason to nitpick the message is to attempt to discredit the messenger, because the argument against the message is weak.

Hammer
08-06-2007, 10:17 PM
Funny, I am about to eat some.....apple. The dinner bell just rung.
Since we're all English professors here, I believe you meant "bell just rang", or "bell was just rung".

softball
08-06-2007, 10:19 PM
Yes, I certainly do consider that to be sematics. It most certainly has little or nothing to do with the topic du jour, and criticizing the grammar/verbage is indeed attacking the messenger.

The only reason to nitpick the message is to attempt to discredit the messenger, because the argument against the message is weak.
I disagree. When the argument is lame, as so many of Sarettah's are, then you need to point that out. Language is like a tapestry, woven with care. Or woven with care. Get the difference? Sarettah, bless his heart, does his best but falls very short. He fires broadsides from the hip with little substance, but most never question it. I do.

softball
08-06-2007, 10:20 PM
Since we're all English professors here, I believe you meant "bell just rang", or "bell was just rung".

I know you will disagree, but that was bait. Just like "verbage".

softball
08-06-2007, 10:22 PM
Is that a fact? :yowsa:

Classic Sarettah....wibble. Say nothing, post a smiley.

Toby
08-06-2007, 10:30 PM
...but most never question it. I do.
You argue like a woman.

softball
08-06-2007, 10:33 PM
You argue like a woman.
Bingo. You just lost this argument. Time to move on or kick it up a notch. That just sunk you like a sunset.

softball
08-06-2007, 10:33 PM
BTW, would you cc this to your friend Uptown what's her face. I don't think so. LOLOLOLOL

Toby
08-06-2007, 10:37 PM
Bingo. You just lost this argument. Time to move on or kick it up a notch. That just sunk you like a sunset.You can never win a argument with a woman, they just keep changing the subject of the argument until the opponent surrenders.

If that's what you consider a victory, then congrats, you won.

softball
08-06-2007, 10:39 PM
You can never win a argument with a woman, they just keep changing the subject of the argument until the opponent surrenders.

If that's what you consider a victory, then congrats, you won.
I won about four or five posts ago. I didn't even have to change the subject.

Toby
08-06-2007, 10:43 PM
I won about four or five posts ago. I didn't even have to change the subject.You won what exactly? I don't see that you've won anything. You've just stirred the shit like you always do.

softball
08-06-2007, 10:47 PM
You won what exactly? I don't see that you've won anything. You've just stirred the shit like you always do.
Of course you didn't. That was my point. As for the shit stirring, you play the game and when you fuck up, you always post something like this. It just takes a few posts till you realize the corner you have painted yourself into, then you step in wet paint and Robert would be your father's brother. Toby, this is getting boring. You need a new schtick.

Toby
08-06-2007, 10:56 PM
You need a new schtick.And as I've told you before, you need a new hobby.

softball
08-06-2007, 10:58 PM
And as I've told you before, you need a new hobby.

I rest my case. This is your final response whenever you get snookered. However, my hobbies are walking in the mountains and smoking doobies. So why do I need another?

Rcourt64
08-06-2007, 11:06 PM
I rest my case. This is your final response whenever you get snookered. However, my hobbies are walking in the mountains and smoking doobies. So why do I need another?

http://e-pauly.com/images/2005/04/28/Oh-Canada.jpg

Toby
08-06-2007, 11:18 PM
...So why do I need another?You seem to need something to occupy your time if you are so bored that what you've been up to on the board today is your idea of fun.

I have another name for it, annoying.

softball
08-06-2007, 11:30 PM
You seem to need something to occupy your time if you are so bored that what you've been up to on the board today is your idea of fun.

I have another name for it, annoying.
Toby, you don't seem to get it. Dude, I am retired. I do this whole fucking thing for amusement and a shit pot of money. But it is not real work. That is over for me. Now I travel. Shoot pictures of girls. Walk in the mountains four times a week. Drive my Porsche. And............here is the kicker, argue with guys like you. You cannot win. And if you think this is bullshit, you are very, very wrong.
Oh yeah, and I have a lot of sex...but that is just a diversion.

Hammer
08-06-2007, 11:33 PM
So, how was the apple pie?

sarettah
08-06-2007, 11:34 PM
I disagree. When the argument is lame, as so many of Sarettah's are, then you need to point that out. Language is like a tapestry, woven with care. Or woven with care. Get the difference? Sarettah, bless his heart, does his best but falls very short. He fires broadsides from the hip with little substance, but most never question it. I do.

lolololol. Man, you take this shit way too serious.

Like my comment about you making facts up, it was a simple little burn and instead of coming back with something even half way witty you want to give the definition of fact as if we don't know what a fact is.

lololol... You would have died on the streets that I grew up on and they were strictly suburban.

Dude to Rhetorical: Your mama wears army boots.

Rheorical back at dude: I will have you know that my mother only wears Ghillies.

Dude punches Rhetorical in the face twice and sends him home crying to his mama and her Ghillies.

softball
08-06-2007, 11:36 PM
So, how was the apple pie?
My wife, who you have talked to, makes the best fucking pies.
So it was amazing. Summer apples, warm night, sitting on the deck watching the boats in the harbour and the girls on the beach. Nice bottle of wine...life is good. Oh and one more thing.....its time for...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC_Bud

softball
08-06-2007, 11:37 PM
On that note, see y'all tomorrow after a hard day of shooting girls in lingerie. Don't pine for me, I will survive.

Toby
08-06-2007, 11:46 PM
Toby, you don't seem to get it. Dude, I am retired. I do this whole fucking thing for amusement and a shit pot of money. But it is not real work. That is over for me. Now I travel. Shoot pictures of girls. Walk in the mountains four times a week. Drive my Porsche. And............here is the kicker, argue with guys like you. You cannot win. And if you think this is bullshit, you are very, very wrong.
Oh yeah, and I have a lot of sex...but that is just a diversion.Glad to know we're all here for your personal amusement.

Just to be clear, what we've been doing this evening doesn't fit my definition of arguing. That was my whole point. You never really debate anything of substance. But hey, if you want to call that winning then here's your trophy. :winner_th

Jace
08-07-2007, 12:15 AM
omfg, this thread turned from funny to sad very quick

rhetorical man, you are very strange

do you sit around on patios drinking wine and eating cheese with your nose turned up? or is that all just a big bad forum character?

I would love to see pics of you some time, you remind me of cartman on south park, I bet you look like him too

softball
08-07-2007, 11:02 AM
omfg, this thread turned from funny to sad very quick

rhetorical man, you are very strange

do you sit around on patios drinking wine and eating cheese with your nose turned up? or is that all just a big bad forum character?

I would love to see pics of you some time, you remind me of cartman on south park, I bet you look like him too
I love wine and cheese and I don't have a big bad character. Why do you ask? I am just a normal porn guy who spends more time in front of a keyboard than most. Hell, you think I am strange, you guys ain't so freeking normal. Consider what we do for a living. It isn't normal.

Rcourt64
08-07-2007, 12:18 PM
I love wine and cheese and I don't have a big bad character. Why do you ask? I am just a normal porn guy who spends more time in front of a keyboard than most. Hell, you think I am strange, you guys ain't so freeking normal. Consider what we do for a living. It isn't normal.

Ahhh, Now you see man? It's that exact attitude and with that type of mentality, and comments that the adult industry is looked at the way it is rhetorical. You are probably just as unstable and unsure about your business ventures in the adult world. I mean WTF is it thats not fucking normal man????

softball
08-07-2007, 06:45 PM
It's that exact attitude and with that type of mentality, and comments that the adult industry is looked at the way it is
It will always be looked on that way. Some things will never change. If we become respectable, we will lose money.

[/QUOTE] You are probably just as unstable and unsure about your business ventures in the adult world. I mean WTF is it thats not fucking normal man???? [/QUOTE]

I am very sure about my business. Like I said before, when you can discuss your work with Aunt Edna over a Sunday roast, then it will be normal, until then, it will remain edgy at best. I worked in film and television for many years and it is full of pretty whacky and seriously deviant people who will rip you off faster than Russ Meyer trailer, but this business has a way higher percentage of crooks and rounders. So no, it is no freeking normal.

gonzo
08-07-2007, 06:56 PM
As an aside...

One of the few times I was able to get in a word edgewise without the tweaker from Xtube interupting with his 10 months of business knowledge...

The question was asked "Do you think porn and mainstream will converge?"

My answer was I dont want it to. At least not totally. The taboo aspect of this business is one of the many factors that makes it sell so well.

We can have a little titlating taboo and still retain ethics cant we?

softball
08-07-2007, 07:00 PM
I remember standing on the corner at midnight
Trying to get my courage up
There was this long lovely dancer
in a little club downtown
I loved to watch her do her stuff
Through the long lonely nights she filled my sleep
Her body softly swaying to that smoky beat
Down on Mainstreet

In the pool halls, the hustlers and the losers
I used to watch 'em through the glass
Well I'd stand outside at closing time
Just to watch her walk on past

Unlike all the other ladies, she
looked so young and sweet
As she made her way alone down that empty street
Down on Mainstreet

And sometimes even now, when I'm feeling lonely and beat
I drift back in time and I find my feet
Down on Mainstreet
Down on Mainstreet

softball
08-07-2007, 07:01 PM
We can have a little titlating taboo and still retain ethics cant we?
Without ethics, you have chaos. And chaos is not good for business.

Jace
08-07-2007, 07:33 PM
I love wine and cheese and I don't have a big bad character. Why do you ask? I am just a normal porn guy who spends more time in front of a keyboard than most. Hell, you think I am strange, you guys ain't so freeking normal. Consider what we do for a living. It isn't normal.

sorry that you feel what you do is not normal, my life is pretty average, the only difference between me and the guy two doors down from me is that I put up links to a few sex sites every now and then, and occasionally watermark a sex vid

the TRUE difference between me and him though, is that I am labeling porn instead of just watching it like him

i guarantee you, you walk into any other guys house my age and you will find just as much porn somewhere in that house as I have here, the only difference is, I am trying to sell it to him, while he is just set out to watch it

the reason I think you are strange is because you look for any and every chance to stand above someone and make them feel small, that signifies a definite craving for attention that is just a little strange in my book, but I guess we were all raised different

Buckwheat
08-07-2007, 07:41 PM
I remember standing on the corner at midnight
Trying to get my courage up
There was this long lovely dancer
in a little club downtown
I loved to watch her do her stuff
Through the long lonely nights she filled my sleep
Her body softly swaying to that smoky beat
Down on Mainstreet

In the pool halls, the hustlers and the losers
I used to watch 'em through the glass
Well I'd stand outside at closing time
Just to watch her walk on past

Unlike all the other ladies, she
looked so young and sweet
As she made her way alone down that empty street
Down on Mainstreet

And sometimes even now, when I'm feeling lonely and beat
I drift back in time and I find my feet
Down on Mainstreet
Down on Mainstreet

man that nice :okthumb:

you sound just like wayne newton

softball
08-07-2007, 08:25 PM
sorry that you feel what you do is not normal, my life is pretty average, the only difference between me and the guy two doors down from me is that I put up links to a few sex sites every now and then, and occasionally watermark a sex vid

the TRUE difference between me and him though, is that I am labeling porn instead of just watching it like him

i guarantee you, you walk into any other guys house my age and you will find just as much porn somewhere in that house as I have here, the only difference is, I am trying to sell it to him, while he is just set out to watch it

the reason I think you are strange is because you look for any and every chance to stand above someone and make them feel small, that signifies a definite craving for attention that is just a little strange in my book, but I guess we were all raised different
OK, so you sell dirty pictures for a living and you think that is "normal"? I would guess you are a very small minority most of whom post on these boards. As for your psychoanalysis, I gotta say your qualifications most likely do not match your opinion. You might consider reading a little. This should get you started in your new "mainstream" career:

"Kohut refers to a patient whose personality disturbance was marked by a vertical split in his personality. One fragment was characterized by a sense of superiority and messianic identification; this result from a merger with his mother, who had idealized him and encouraged his grandiosity. In Jung’s terms, these contents represent a split-off complex, unintegrated with the rest of the personality. He is particularly concerned with the need to achieve the wholeness of the personality, which requires the integration of material split off from the totality of the person’s self"

You see, now that is impressive. Trumps "standing above" someone, dontcha know.

softball
08-07-2007, 08:26 PM
man that nice :okthumb:

you sound just like wayne newton
Who be that John Wayne Newton? He dat Limey fella used to post here?

Jace
08-07-2007, 09:18 PM
OK, so you sell dirty pictures for a living and you think that is "normal"? I would guess you are a very small minority most of whom post on these boards. As for your psychoanalysis, I gotta say your qualifications most likely do not match your opinion. You might consider reading a little. This should get you started in your new "mainstream" career:

"Kohut refers to a patient whose personality disturbance was marked by a vertical split in his personality. One fragment was characterized by a sense of superiority and messianic identification; this result from a merger with his mother, who had idealized him and encouraged his grandiosity. In Jung’s terms, these contents represent a split-off complex, unintegrated with the rest of the personality. He is particularly concerned with the need to achieve the wholeness of the personality, which requires the integration of material split off from the totality of the person’s self"

You see, now that is impressive. Trumps "standing above" someone, dontcha know.

:inq9:

yes, I think selling "dirty pictures" is pretty normal in my world....it is literally one step up from looking at that, which is what millions of people do every day.

think of it this way, my buddies get porn all the time from the internet and they email it to each other....what do I do? I take it one small step up and instead of me getting it and emailing it, I get it and tell people I have it and they actually pay me to look at it.....pretty normal

let's see...I am a blue/pink haired punk covered in tattoos that wakes up at 5-6pm every day and on weekends gets so fucked up from partying that he doesn't know his own name sometimes and is usually up for 2-3 days straight with at least 4-5 friends

so, in comparison, selling porn is pretty normal to me

softball
08-07-2007, 10:05 PM
:inq9:

yes, I think selling "dirty pictures" is pretty normal in my world....it is literally one step up from looking at that, which is what millions of people do every day.

think of it this way, my buddies get porn all the time from the internet and they email it to each other....what do I do? I take it one small step up and instead of me getting it and emailing it, I get it and tell people I have it and they actually pay me to look at it.....pretty normal

let's see...I am a blue/pink haired punk covered in tattoos that wakes up at 5-6pm every day and on weekends gets so fucked up from partying that he doesn't know his own name sometimes and is usually up for 2-3 days straight with at least 4-5 friends

so, in comparison, selling porn is pretty normal to me
Dude, making excuses for what you do is exactly my point.

Jace
08-07-2007, 10:12 PM
Dude, making excuses for what you do is exactly my point.
where in there did I make ANY excuses?

do you just sit on the forums all day and troll for excuses to start shit?

I make no excuses for ANYTHING i do man, sorry you take it that way, but I guess you usually take things the way you want to take them and not the way they were intended to be taken

softball
08-07-2007, 10:19 PM
"think of it this way, my buddies get porn all the time from the internet and they email it to each other....what do I do? I take it one small step up and instead of me getting it and emailing it, I get it and tell people I have it and they actually pay me to look at it.....pretty normal"
This is an excuse. Big time. Also, that troll shit, leave it at the front door. It is just another excuse.

Jace
08-07-2007, 10:29 PM
"think of it this way, my buddies get porn all the time from the internet and they email it to each other....what do I do? I take it one small step up and instead of me getting it and emailing it, I get it and tell people I have it and they actually pay me to look at it.....pretty normal"
This is an excuse. Big time. Also, that troll shit, leave it at the front door. It is just another excuse.

jesus christ, you overthink so much shit you remind me of a girl at pms time

no excuses there man, just the way it is

softball
08-07-2007, 10:32 PM
jesus christ, you overthink so much shit you remind me of a girl at pms time

no excuses there man, just the way it is

Overthink? That took all of 3 seconds...or less. Dude, you have been punked bad. You need to address your little problem. An excuse by anyother name is still a fucking excuse. But I know you actually knew that.

Buckwheat
08-07-2007, 10:39 PM
dunker shane
darlin dunker shane
i bought some wine
with your spare change

everybody now . . . . .

Jace
08-07-2007, 10:41 PM
Overthink? That took all of 3 seconds...or less. Dude, you have been punked bad. You need to address your little problem. An excuse by anyother name is still a fucking excuse. But I know you actually knew that.

ok fine, this is getting boring, you win

softball
08-07-2007, 10:44 PM
ok fine, this is getting boring, you win
Yeah, but I already knew that. I was curious to see how long it took you to figure it out. I actually thought you were better than that, but I guess I was wrong. Catchya on the flip flop.

Hammer
08-07-2007, 10:47 PM
Time for some pie.

softball
08-07-2007, 10:49 PM
Time for some pie.
You maybe right, but tonight it is a sauvignon blanc. It is pissing rain and I can't see the mountains.

sarettah
08-08-2007, 01:03 AM
Without ethics, you have chaos. And chaos is not good for business.



Just for the record. I find that statement to be quite ludicrous.

There is no relationship between chaos and ethics. You can very well have total chaos and all the ethics in the world or you could be totally organized and have not one ethic to your name.

As far as chaos not being good for business? Chaos has often been very good for business. Lots of money has been made in the midst of chaos.

Just my two cents...