Survey Time: Models in Boys Underwear

[Hell Puppy]

Hey yo...

It's survey time again.

The FFN's have been having some heated debates this weekend. When shooting models, you're always looking for outfit, location, theme and costume ideas. I mean how many ways can you strip a girl naked?

We came up with an idea for a set for the comic book crowd. The idea is get some comic theme underwear and put the model in them, in this case, Batman. Now they dont make these for girls, or at least we couldnt' find them. Adult male undies are too large. So we get boys undies.

The idea here is skimpy boys briefs that are way too small, come out nice and tight on the model, a similarly themed t-shirt is way too short and just covers the breasts.

No pigtails and lollipops here, NO one in their right mind when they see this would think we're trying to make a girl look like she's under 18. Yet, one of our fellow FFN's says we've gone pedo and just cant stand the idea that we'd have something that was intended for a child anywhere near a porn shoot. I say this is fucking stupid, we're not appealing to pedo's, we're going after guys who dig comic books (the ones over 18 at least!).

[Peaches]

Well...you already know MY opinions on this but I'll share them with the peanut gallery:

When you take an 18 year old girl and put her in something that someone YOUNGER than 18 would wear or put her in an environment that someone YOUNGER than 18 years old would be in, you've not crossed a legal line, just a moral one to ME. But we know I'm the prude in the biz.

18 year old girls do everything they can to look older in real life, not younger. Ergo, you're not portraying a true 18 year old by putting her comic inspired Underoos. That's what 10 year old girls wear and young boys wear.

By putting a technically legal 18 year old in clothing that depicts her as under 18, ergo illegal, I think you're crossing dangerous lines. Ditto with the wearing of the kids Halloween costumes and posting on playgrounds - again something REAL 18 year old girls wouldn't be caught dead doing.

Go to any mall and look at the 18 year olds. They are trying to look 24, not 12. Yet you are filming them in cartoon character underoos - little boy ones at that.

But once again, I am not your target demographic - men who want to see girls that are technically legal but are dressed as children are ;)

I fully expect to be in the minority here :)

[Hell Puppy]

Well...you already know MY opinions on this but I'll share them with the peanut gallery:

When you take an 18 year old girl and put her in something that someone YOUNGER than 18 would wear or put her in an environment that someone YOUNGER than 18 years old would be in, you've not crossed a legal line, just a moral one to ME. But we know I'm the prude in the biz.

18 year old girls do everything they can to look older in real life, not younger. Ergo, you're not portraying a true 18 year old by putting her comic inspired Underoos. That's what 10 year old girls wear and young boys wear.

By putting a technically legal 18 year old in clothing that depicts her as under 18, ergo illegal, I think you're crossing dangerous lines. Ditto with the wearing of the kids Halloween costumes and posting on playgrounds - again something REAL 18 year old girls wouldn't be caught dead doing.

Go to any mall and look at the 18 year olds. They are trying to look 24, not 12. Yet you are filming them in cartoon character underoos - little boy ones at that.

But once again, I am not your target demographic - men who want to see girls that are technically legal but are dressed as children are ;)

I fully expect to be in the minority here :)

Peaches, you ignorant slut..... ;)

You're completely blinded by the idea of something intended for kids being in porn.

We're not trying to make anyone look under 18. There's no way any rational person would look at a pic like we're describing and go "oh, she's wearing underroo's, she must be 12!". If I put on a pair of care bear panties will you think I'm 12?

And I could give a rat's ass what an 18-24 year old wears to the mall. What I care about is what might make a guy sitting at home surfing the internet get interested enough to pull out his credit card.

Oh, and by the way, the model showed up wearing a kids spiderman watch, and we had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with that. Just a weird coincidence.

[Peaches]

And I could give a rat's ass what an 18-24 year old wears to the mall. What I care about is what might make a guy sitting at home surfing the internet get interested enough to pull out his credit card
As Nick once said "I have all the morals I can afford." :)

[Peaches]

And putting a "robust" 40 year old man in underoos and a girl who's just barely over the legal age limit is comparing apples and massively huge watermelons :)

Again, this is just NOT a line I'd be willing to cross, both as a parent and friends of parents with 18 year old daughters. You're not depicting a true 18 year old when you put them in little boy's underwear - you're depicting a child.

[Hell Puppy]

As Nick once said "I have all the morals I can afford." :)

Careful, that's the type of analogy that will actually piss me off....

You dont wanna piss me off.

Morals are a personal thing, most of us are way on the outside of what "normal" people find acceptable by the mere fact we're marketing porn. But I can say I've never intentionally done anything that would cause anyone harm....especially a child. You'll never "accidently" see so much as a tit on any of my domains. I've been putting ICRA tags on every server for years.

You're post implies that you want to lump me in with a group that will do anything they can possibly get away with if it'll bring them a buck. You know as well as anyone,that's no my game.

You keep trying to lump me in with pedophiles, scum bags and rip off artists, and I might actually get riled...

[Peaches]

Now they dont make these for girls, or at least we couldnt' find them. Adult male undies are too large. So we get boys undies
One might ask themselves why comic book Underoos AREN'T sold in the department that caters to 18 year old girls :okthumb:

(this has been an ongoing discussion that HP and I disagree strongly on, in case no one's noticed ;) )

[Hell Puppy]

One might ask themselves why comic book Underoos AREN'T sold in the department that caters to 18 year old girls :okthumb:

(this has been an ongoing discussion that HP and I disagree strongly on, in case no one's noticed ;) )

Please pay attention, I'm not marketing to 18 year old girls.

[Peaches]

You're looking at this through the eyes of a pornographer who wants to make money. I'm looking at it through the eyes of a parent. It's only natural our views are going to differ on something like this.

I'm not your moral compass - you really shouldn't care what my thoughts are on this matter. But you also know I'm opininated bitch and if I feel some way about something, I'm gonna let you know :)

[Peaches]

Please pay attention, I'm not marketing to 18 year old girls.
You're marketing 18 year old girls. Ergo you should dress them in items 18 year old girls wear - not what children wear.

[Hell Puppy]

You're marketing 18 year old girls. Ergo you should dress them in items 18 year old girls wear - not what children wear.

18 year old girls also dont run around naked either.

We're selling fantasy.

Even so called 'reality porn' isn't very realistic most of the time.

[Peaches]

We're selling fantasy.
Keeping quiet about who this fantasy appeals to before you get pissed enough to hack into my electric account and I end up with a million dollar bill ;)

[Hell Puppy]

Keeping quiet about who this fantasy appeals to before you get pissed enough to hack into my electric account and I end up with a million dollar bill ;)

In this case, comic book fans.

The pedos will go hang out on the non-nude sites or the sites that have girls who look 15 still wearing pig tails and braces.... Nothing for them here.

[Peaches]

In this case, comic book fans.
Deleted what I was going to say - I value the lives of the pugs ;)

We'll agree to 110% totally and completely disgree on this.

Next thing you know, you'll be telling me it makes no sense to make "to do" lists.........:scratchin

[Hell Puppy]

Deleted what I was going to say - I value the lives of the pugs ;)

We'll agree to 110% totally and completely disgree on this.

Next thing you know, you'll be telling me it makes no sense to make "to do" lists.........:scratchin

I appreciate your confidence in me. :unsure:

Go ahead and pass judgement without even seeing any pics.

[gonzo]

Well...you already know MY opinions on this but I'll share them with the peanut gallery:

When you take an 18 year old girl and put her in something that someone YOUNGER than 18 would wear or put her in an environment that someone YOUNGER than 18 years old would be in, you've not crossed a legal line, just a moral one to ME. But we know I'm the prude in the biz.

18 year old girls do everything they can to look older in real life, not younger. Ergo, you're not portraying a true 18 year old by putting her comic inspired Underoos. That's what 10 year old girls wear and young boys wear.

By putting a technically legal 18 year old in clothing that depicts her as under 18, ergo illegal, I think you're crossing dangerous lines. Ditto with the wearing of the kids Halloween costumes and posting on playgrounds - again something REAL 18 year old girls wouldn't be caught dead doing.

Go to any mall and look at the 18 year olds. They are trying to look 24, not 12. Yet you are filming them in cartoon character underoos - little boy ones at that.

But once again, I am not your target demographic - men who want to see girls that are technically legal but are dressed as children are ;)

I fully expect to be in the minority here :)


Im sure it would be ok if John Ip did it.

[Forsberg's Dog]

In this case, comic book fans..

mmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeee

[Peaches]

Yipee! ONE other person agrees with me :)

(and no, I'm not stuffing the ballot box....)

[Jace]

as long as it is solely for the novelty of wearing underoos

My wife went through too many shoots with fucking perverts that wish she had been 14....from the pig tails to the 12 years old underwear...NEVER again...no offense to those that like that shit, but if you like to see girls in pigtails and wearing underwear that is for 10-12 year olds, you have something seriously wrong and you need help big time

[Hell Puppy]

Yipee! ONE other person agrees with me :)

(and no, I'm not stuffing the ballot box....)

It was probably Serial.

[Hell Puppy]

as long as it is solely for the novelty of wearing underoos

My wife went through too many shoots with fucking perverts that wish she had been 14....from the pig tails to the 12 years old underwear...NEVER again...no offense to those that like that shit, but if you like to see girls in pigtails and wearing underwear that is for 10-12 year olds, you have something seriously wrong and you need help big time

And there-in lies what I think is the important differentiation. If you're trying to portray the model as a child whether it's obvious that they're over 18 or not, then that's a problem.

[Hell Puppy]

Ok, here's another one. I didn't get Peaches response to this last night since she was too inebraited to message properly...and I'm curious....

Are you catering to pedo's if you shoot a model on a playground (with no kids around of course)?

[Peaches]

And there-in lies what I think is the important differentiation. If you're trying to portray the model as a child whether it's obvious that they're over 18 or not, then that's a problem.
Adults don't wear little kid's underwear. I am willing to bet you a dinner at Bones or Chops (your choice) that no one signs up for that site using the search words "Batman comics".

I have less problems with braces, pigtails and lollipops - at least adults wear braces, pigtails and eat lollipops. They don't wear little kid's underwear!! :unsure:

(tomorrow night there is going to be animated discussion - I just feel it in my bones ;) )

[Peaches]

Ok, here's another one. I didn't get Peaches response to this last night since she was too inebraited to message properly...and I'm curious....

Are you catering to pedo's if you shoot a model on a playground (with no kids around of course)?
I said yes - again, 18 year old girls don't hang out at playgrounds. When you portray an 18 year old girl doing things that YOUNGER (i.e. underaged) girls do, IMO, you're crossing the line.

Put someone who obviously cannot be mistaken for someone underaged and it's a different story. Vanilla, for instance, on a playground isn't going to make anyone think she might be under 18.

BUT AGAIN, I am NOT your moral compass. I'm merely stating my personal opinion and we all know I'm a prude, especially when it comes to kids.

And yes, I have a huge problem with the NN underage sites too and I think what you're doing is a helluva lot less worse than those. You're safe on that stance :okthumb:

[Jace]

Adults don't wear little kid's underwear. I am willing to bet you a dinner at Bones or Chops (your choice) that no one signs up for that site using the search words "Batman comics".

I have less problems with braces, pigtails and lollipops - at least adults wear braces, pigtails and eat lollipops. They don't wear little kid's underwear!! :unsure:

(tomorrow night there is going to be animated discussion - I just feel it in my bones ;) )
believe it or not, my wife and I spent a week a while back trying to find underoos for adults....and a lot of the underwear made for women now is silly and colorful like underoos can be....so, there is a fine line...but if you buy underwear that says on the label "kids 10-12" on it, then there is something wrong

[Peaches]

but if you buy underwear that says on the label "kids 10-12" on it, then there is something wrong
THANK YOU!!

[Hell Puppy]

I have less problems with braces, pigtails and lollipops - at least adults wear braces, pigtails and eat lollipops. They don't wear little kid's underwear!! :unsure:


that's just totally fucked up and illogical.


(tomorrow night there is going to be animated discussion - I just feel it in my bones ;) )

or not, i'm starting to think i might be better off at the press screening for nacho libre....it wont piss me off.

[Peaches]

or not, i'm starting to think i might be better off at the press screening for nacho libre....it wont piss me off.
Well, since Kathi might not make it either, I guess that leaves me and I can certainly use that time to study :(

I don't know why any of this would piss you off - this is just the opinion of a prudish old chick. You're not going to lose a dime or any respect from anyone who matters :)

[Hell Puppy]

I said yes - again, 18 year old girls don't hang out at playgrounds. When you portray an 18 year old girl doing things that YOUNGER (i.e. underaged) girls do, IMO, you're crossing the line.

Put someone who obviously cannot be mistaken for someone underaged and it's a different story. Vanilla, for instance, on a playground isn't going to make anyone think she might be under 18.

So it's ok for Vanilla. And we're agreeing on this point, it's NOT OK to do it if the model looks under 18.

But you know me. You haven't seen a pic or even know what model I'm working with, and you assume I have one that looks like Little April in underoo's?

Thanks for the vote of confidence and trust.

I'm with GonZo on this one, I reckon we're somewhere below John IP on the list.

[gonzo]

I'm with GonZo on this one, I reckon we're somewhere below John IP on the list.

Strange value system.

[Peaches]

OK, so do I start keeping my opinions to myself in fear of pissing you off? I can do that, but you better be prepared to stuff my mouth constantly full of food so I'll shut up. :huh:

And no, you're not below anyone - I JUST GAVE YOU MY OPINION ABOUT ONE SITUATION. I swear you're worse than a chick. :whistling

[gonzo]

OK, so do I start keeping my opinions to myself in fear of pissing you off? I can do that, but you better be prepared to stuff my mouth constantly full of food so I'll shut up. :huh:

And no, you're not below anyone - I JUST GAVE YOU MY OPINION ABOUT ONE SITUATION. I swear you're worse than a chick. :whistling
Im surprised and disgusted that you could even imagine either of us being capabile of such an act.

[Hell Puppy]

Well, since Kathi might not make it either, I guess that leaves me and I can certainly use that time to study :(

I don't know why any of this would piss you off - this is just the opinion of a prudish old chick. You're not going to lose a dime or any respect from anyone who matters :)

Let me see if I can 'splain it to ya...

I dont mind a spirited debate....that's why I'm continuing to go back and forth. And I dont expect to agree with you all the time. You take it and give it back as well as anyone I know....even if your logic is sometimes faulty. :) And you're right, I honestly dont give a shit what anyone thnks about the subject at hand, i KNOW in my heart that I can post the pics, the members will think it's cute and i wont lure a single pedophile with them.

Here's where I get cheesed off...

You rush to judgement against me with very little information, no actual pics, no knowledge of the model. You up and accuse me of going pedo, then in this thread lump me in with scammers and thieves in the industry. Where as if you were doing the same thing, I'd likely say "ok, i assume you know what you're doing" and think nothing more about it.

To me, I take it in much the same way as if I were in your house and some money turned up missing, and you asked if I took it.

[Peaches]

Im surprised and disgusted that you could even imagine either of us being capabile of such an act.
Okee dokee, where did I say you did "such an act"? I merely voiced an opinion over one of the props. I am a prude. I personally don't think it's kosher to put little boy's Underoos on an 18 year old model, and I said so (in private). I probably also wouldn't do a LOT of things you do and there are probably a lot of things I'd do that you wouldn't do - unless you're into men.

Don't turn a molehill into my steep driveway or no one will be going to Disneyworld on Gay Day. :mad:

[Peaches]

Here's where I get cheesed off...

You rush to judgement against me with very little information, no actual pics, no knowledge of the model. You up and accuse me of going pedo, then in this thread lump me in with scammers and thieves in the industry. Where as if you were doing the same thing, I'd likely say "ok, i assume you know what you're doing" and think nothing more about it.

To me, I take it in much the same way as if I were in your house and some money turned up missing, and you asked if I took it.
ASSumption seems to be faulty on BOTH sides then as I've done nothing of the sort. Edited to add: intentionally I've done nothing of the sort.

However, if you are at my house and my boxers with little pugs on them are missing, I'm going to ask you if you took them.

[gonzo]

Okee dokee, where did I say you did "such an act"? I merely voiced an opinion over one of the props. I am a prude. I personally don't think it's kosher to put little boy's Underoos on an 18 year old model, and I said so (in private). I probably also wouldn't do a LOT of things you do and there are probably a lot of things I'd do that you wouldn't do - unless you're into men.

Don't turn a molehill into my steep driveway or no one will be going to Disneyworld on Gay Day. :mad:

Youve got a recent history of making some bad judgement calls.
Ill chalk this one up as yet another one.

[Peaches]

Youve got a recent history of making some bad judgement calls.
Ill chalk this one up as yet another one.
I'll accept that ;)

[gonzo]

However, if you are at my house and my boxers with little pugs on them are missing, I'm going to ask you if you took them.

This one is high and tight. I will resist.

[Peaches]

This one is high and tight. I will resist.
They were bought in the MEN'S department at Banana Republic. Think about it - do you think any child's underwear is going to fit over MY big ass? ;)

[Hell Puppy]

Here, I'll help with a pic.... Here's some of our pedophile collection:

http://www.hellpuppy.com/playing.jpg


My apologies to GonZo if this lures sex-ed and the other pedophiles over to spank their monkey....

Obviously college age girls dont play on slides, so we were clearly trying to make her look 12....

(we need a smiley for dripping sarcasm)

[Peaches]

She's 18?

[Hell Puppy]

She's 18?

At what point have I said any of the models in question are 18?

All I've said is they're "over 18"...

You jumped to the conclusion that we had a 18 year old that probably could pass for 16 or something. Believe it or not, I do actually know what I'm doing.

[Peaches]

At what point have I said any of the models in question are 18?

All I've said is they're "over 18"...

You jumped to the conclusion that we had a 18 year old that probably could pass for 16 or something. Believe it or not, I do actually know what I'm doing.
*I* have stated several times in this thread (and in my lost messages - I wonder if there's some very confused person on my contact list?) that I was talking about 18 year olds. I'll throw 19 year olds in there too just to hit the teen reference :)

And yes, I know you know what you're doing. AGAIN, I stated MY OPINION about little boy's underwear in porn shoots. I'm TRYING to agree to disagree on this......

If it makes you feel any better, I'm also against putting clothes on dogs.

[Jace]

wholly moley, when did this turn into a fight?

there are so many sides and lines on this debate and SO many factors to weigh in ..... does the girl look young is the biggest factor, and if you are talking about putting the girl you posted in the pic in underoos, I have NOTHING wrong with that

but when they took my wife who already looked 18 at the time, and put those panties on her and made her look 14, that is where I drew the line....as did she, she never did anything like that ever again

[Hell Puppy]

wholly moley, when did this turn into a fight?

there are so many sides and lines on this debate and SO many factors to weigh in ..... does the girl look young is the biggest factor, and if you are talking about putting the girl you posted in the pic in underoos, I have NOTHING wrong with that

but when they took my wife who already looked 18 at the time, and put those panties on her and made her look 14, that is where I drew the line....as did she, she never did anything like that ever again

And I agree with you 100%.

[Hell Puppy]

If it makes you feel any better, I'm also against putting clothes on dogs.

Now you've really gone and done it.

I have an almost religious attachment to white english bulldogs with red sweaters with a big G on their chest.

[Peaches]

Now you've really gone and done it.

I have an almost religious attachment to white english bulldogs with red sweaters with a big G on their chest.
Now you're telling me you're into bestiality??! I'm warning Meg and Ariel. :mad:

Wait a minute....all UGAs have been male....that's GAY bestiality. And Ferd can't run fast anymore :(

[Hell Puppy]

Now you're telling me you're into bestiality??! I'm warning Meg and Ariel. :mad:

Wait a minute....all UGAs have been male....that's GAY bestiality. And Ferd can't run fast anymore :(

You and your damned assumptions....

For all you know, I could like a female bulldog named Gina who just happens to dress like UGA.

[Peaches]

You and your damned assumptions....

For all you know, I could like a female bulldog named Gina who just happens to dress like UGA.
So cross dressers appeal to you too. This is getting uglier and uglier.......:hmm:

[Peaches]

I'm glad Christmas and your birthday are at the same time so I can lump this into one gift:

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=47295

[Sabby]

Oh come on. I have some supergirl and bettyboop "boyshorts" I bought in the ladies lingerie section of walmart.

Boyshorts are much more popular and trendy than thongs are now.

And you can wear them around the house with just a tshirt.


Sabby:flash:

[Sabby]

These do look kinda girlie but they were bought in the ladies lingerie section of Walmart. And I'm 35 and obviously not teen content.


Sabby:flash:

[Jace]

Oh come on. I have some supergirl and bettyboop "boyshorts" I bought in the ladies lingerie section of walmart.

Boyshorts are much more popular and trendy than thongs are now.

And you can wear them around the house with just a tshirt.


Sabby:flash:

honey, they are talking about something different....boy shorts made for grown women is something COMPLETELY different than a producer handing a 22 year old woman a bag full of panties made for "kids 10-12" and wanting her to wear them

[Sabby]

honey, they are talking about something different....boy shorts made for grown women is something COMPLETELY different than a producer handing a 22 year old woman a bag full of panties made for "kids 10-12" and wanting her to wear them

Yes but they probably arent going to look much different except the childs garments arent going to say "hottie" on them.

Why dont you just buy some plain woman's boyshorts or panties and print out a superhero iron on transfer and make them yourself? I think that would be an easy and ethical solution.


Sabby:flash:

[Jace]

Yes but they probably arent going to look much different except the childs garments arent going to say "hottie" on them.

Why dont you just buy some plain woman's boyshorts or panties and print out a superhero iron on transfer and make them yourself? I think that would be an easy and ethical solution.


Sabby:flash:
I will have to dig out some pics for you, cause they look WAY different

snug fitting sexy boy shorts for women look nothing like an 11 year olds panties...if they do, then you are not a good parent

[Hell Puppy]

These do look kinda girlie but they were bought in the ladies lingerie section of Walmart. And I'm 35 and obviously not teen content.


Sabby:flash:

The tummy pic gives me a tongue-on, does that make me a pedo?

Where'd Peaches go? We need a judgement. I must've been wrong about her being able to take it as well as she dishes it...

[gonzo]

The tummy pic gives me a tongue-on, does that make me a pedo?

Where'd Peaches go? We need a judgement. I must've been wrong about her being able to take it as well as she dishes it...

I think shes having dinner with her good friend John Ip.

[Addie]

I'm quite fond of my little boy's Batman underwear though....

[JR]

i am confused. everyone got pissy pretty fast :)

dressing up "models" in boys underwear is disturbing... you should be fantasizing about whats under there... and hopefully not imagining a giant a big cock jumping out of her shorts.

but thats just me.

:whistling :whistling

[gonzo]

i am confused. everyone got pissy pretty fast :)

dressing up "models" in boys underwear is disturbing... you should be fantasizing about whats under there... and hopefully not imagining a giant a big cock jumping out of her shorts.

but thats just me.

:whistling :whistling

Its a costume. Plain and simple. No different than a boa or a leather G.

[Useless]

So we get boys undies.

The idea here is skimpy boys briefs that are way too small, come out nice and tight on the model, a similarly themed t-shirt is way too short and just covers the breasts. If I could stick my tongue in through the fly, I'm all for it.

We're talking boys' briefs here, right? So, it's not like you're trying to convince anyone that the rather large breasted chick in the picture is a young boy. I'm thinking it's going to take a shit load of duct tape to achieve that. And you certainly aren't trying to make her look like a |itt|e gir| - you are, after all, using boys' underwear. So, um...what am I missing here?

Would there be the same amount of objection if you were putting 20 year-old male models in girls' panties, with their big hairy balls hanging over the edges?

[Hell Puppy]

If I could stick my tongue in through the fly, I'm all for it.

We're talking boys' briefs here, right? So, it's not like you're trying to convince anyone that the rather large breasted chick in the picture is a young boy. I'm thinking it's going to take a shit load of duct tape to achieve that. And you certainly aren't trying to make her look like a |itt|e gir| - you are, after all, using boys' underwear. So, um...what am I missing here?

Would there be the same amount of objection if you were putting 20 year-old male models in girls' panties, with their big hairy balls hanging over the edges?

Yup, exactly right.

But there seems to be a knee jerk reaction, at least from some parents, that anything that remotely reminds them of a child shouldn't be anywhere near porn.

To me there's a huge difference between being playful like a child and trying to pass someone off as a child to give the pedo's something to spank their meat to.

There are plenty of sites out there that do exactly that though, really go after the 18 year olds that could pass for 15-16 and do the whole pig tails and lollipop theme. I should check the Oprano sponsor list before I name names though....heh.

[Sabby]

I will have to dig out some pics for you, cause they look WAY different

snug fitting sexy boy shorts for women look nothing like an 11 year olds panties...if they do, then you are not a good parent

I have all boys (15, 13, 11). They all wear boxers.

And they would be absolutely mortified if I made them wear "batman" panties.


Sabby:flash:

[gonzo]

Yup, exactly right.

But there seems to be a knee jerk reaction, at least from some parents, that anything that remotely reminds them of a child shouldn't be anywhere near porn.

To me there's a huge difference between being playful like a child and trying to pass someone off as a child to give the pedo's something to spank their meat to.

There are plenty of sites out there that do exactly that though, really go after the 18 year olds that could pass for 15-16 and do the whole pig tails and lollipop theme. I should check the Oprano sponsor list before I name names though....heh.

Dont forget hiring models for 2K a month with the expectation of banging em out oh and dont forget you need to take these pills to shrink those boobs.

One way of raising "revenue" I would never consider.

[Jace]

a girl wearing little boys underwear to look cute is way different than a girl wearing 12 year GIRLS underwear to look younger

I was under the impression here we were talking about little girls underwear....I was mistaken

[Peaches]

The tummy pic gives me a tongue-on, does that make me a pedo?

Where'd Peaches go? We need a judgement. I must've been wrong about her being able to take it as well as she dishes it...
Nope, just finally realized where this went. As I told you, I wanted notice - I got it.

BTW, you never once told me the model you were putting the little boy's underoos on was over 18. In fact, you constantly referred to her on SMS as 18. So, is she? Or were you putting them on the model that you showed the picture of, who is not 18?

I thought we had agreed to disagree. I don't think little children's clothing should be used on models who are months or a year over legal age. You turned that into me saying you were a pedo and stealing money when we all know you'd be tapping into my box of Todd Toys. Personally, I don't think a single person is going to join your site using "Batman Comics" as a search phrase.

I DO think putting someone barely legal in little children's clothing is not a line I would personally cross. Someone like the model you posted or Sabby are different. I already said that when I used Vanilla as an example on the playground. That's MY opinion. I gave it. I realized my mistake.

It's like I told someone I was dating who asked me if I loved him: "Don't ask the question if you're not ready for all the possible answers.". :whistling

[JR]

Its a costume. Plain and simple. No different than a boa or a leather G.

is dressing up like a 6yr old girl and taking sexually suggestive photographs "just a costume"? last i checked its absolutely, 100% illegal.

[gonzo]

is dressing up like a 6yr old girl and taking sexually suggestive photographs "just a costume"? last i checked its absolutely, 100% illegal.

I dont dress like a 6 year old. I dont have the figure for it...and I dont work with anyone under 18.

Youd have to ask one of the "teen" program owners.

[Peaches]

is dressing up like a 6yr old girl and taking sexually suggestive photographs "just a costume"? last i checked its absolutely, 100% illegal.
edit:

Oh wait, didn't read that right - I have no idea if it's legal or illegal. Not my side of the fence to worry about that. I said it was not something *I* consider right.

[JR]

Yep, it's legal. I already said that. ;)

i am not going to look it up.... but i am 99.9% sure that intentionally making a model look under age and depicting her in graphic sexual shots is illegal. i remember reading up on the laws about this and remember the comments of someone once on netpond, claiming to be a police officer many years ago that completely broke it down (i believe it was right after one of the big busts in vancouver - with the underage girl on cam).

[Hell Puppy]

i am not going to look it up.... but i am 99.9% sure that intentionally making a model look under age and depicting her in graphic sexual shots is illegal. i remember reading up on the laws about this and remember the comments of someone once on netpond, claiming to be a police officer many years ago that completely broke it down (i believe it was right after one of the big busts in vancouver - with the underage girl on cam).

Yeah, that's my recollection as well. And whether it's legal or not, you're going after pedo's if you're intentionally trying to make the audience THINK she's under 18.

I have no idea what all the ins and outs are, maybe as long as you state all models are over 18 you're free and clear. I dont know, that's not a park I play in regardless of what Peaches thinks.

But there are some sites that clearly push the edge of that envelope. I checked the sponsor list, so I'll name a couple of names that aren't on the protected list....hehe. Recent example is Little April....she looks 15 and they appear to do everything they can to keep it that way. Another one that comes to mind that is independent is Kirsten of Kirsten's Room....she looks like a pudgy 16 year old....and has looked that way for what? 8 years or so now? She's gotta be pushing 30...hehe.

[spazlabz]

Like Gonzo said, it is a costume plain and simple. Does the website the girl is going to be on have a 2257 statement? do they state she is over 18 or do they hint that she is underage?
most sites, and I can only imagine that Hell Puppy would be very responsible when it comes to this, are not going to try and insinuate that a girl is underage. The girl may be young, shit 25 is young to me, but that doesn't make it illegal or immoral.

If you have a model with big boobs, you excentuate that feature..
nice ass.. same thing
girl has a gorgeous face, then lots of close ups
and if the girl is a teen and your selling youth (not molestation BTW, different things entirely) then you bring attention to that.
There is a reason the teen niche is arguably the biggest one out there, it is because the market likes to see young women naked and knocking boots


spaz

[Peaches]

I think this really needs to be settled the correct FFN way. Gonzo and Hellpuppy must put on the briefs in question, take a picture, post it, and let us decide if they look under than 18.

[gonzo]

I think this really needs to be settled the correct FFN way. Gonzo and Hellpuppy must put on the briefs in question, take a picture, post it, and let us decide if they look under than 18.

Id have to get them back from the model. And shes already stated that she is fond of them.

[spazlabz]

I think this really needs to be settled the correct FFN way. Gonzo and Hellpuppy must put on the briefs in question, take a picture, post it, and let us decide if they look under than 18.

GOOD GAWD WOMAN NO!!
you have gone insane LOL


spaz

[Peaches]

Id have to get them back from the model. And shes already stated that she is fond of them.
I will be more than happy to hit the local Walmart and buy duplicates ;)

[Hell Puppy]

....like trying to get two bowling balls into a marble bag.