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gonzo
03-11-2006, 06:31 PM
What would you think if you had a link that said "Check out these couples on Webcams"

...the link is to this site?
http://www.wildcamdate.com/?Ref=evilempire

The Adult FriendFinder ref code isnt for me and I like how they are promoting their TGP as well.

What whats up with that shit Legendary Lars and Streamray?

Toby
03-11-2006, 11:47 PM
Why doesn't that surprise me? :rolleyes:

Giv'em hell Gonzo, take no prisoners.

gonzo
03-12-2006, 12:05 AM
Why doesn't that surprise me? :rolleyes:

Giv'em hell Gonzo, take no prisoners.

Looks like all the streamray sites are redirected to pump up that TGP as well as someone elses AFF ref code.

I wonder if that belongs to Lars?

If you used to use Streamray links now is a the time to check them out.
Pretty shrewd move....advertise that massive pay out and then flip the links when no one is looking.

Anyone from Cams, Streamray or AFF want to comment.
Whos ref code is on those pages?

streamray sean
03-13-2006, 03:00 PM
Looks like all the streamray sites are redirected to pump up that TGP as well as someone elses AFF ref code.

I wonder if that belongs to Lars?

If you used to use Streamray links now is a the time to check them out.
Pretty shrewd move....advertise that massive pay out and then flip the links when no one is looking.

Anyone from Cams, Streamray or AFF want to comment.
Whos ref code is on those pages?


sure. i would love to comment. what are you talking about??

streamray sean
03-13-2006, 03:04 PM
if anyone needs to get in contact with me

icq# 147498861

Mike AI
03-13-2006, 03:28 PM
Looks like all the streamray sites are redirected to pump up that TGP as well as someone elses AFF ref code.

I wonder if that belongs to Lars?

If you used to use Streamray links now is a the time to check them out.
Pretty shrewd move....advertise that massive pay out and then flip the links when no one is looking.

Anyone from Cams, Streamray or AFF want to comment.
Whos ref code is on those pages?


Same business model that others have made fortunes with.

As CJ says. nothing new in this business.

gonzo
03-13-2006, 03:40 PM
Legendary asscovering at its finest!

streamray sean
03-13-2006, 03:59 PM
Legendary asscovering at its finest!


what are you talking about? really. look up a little, and there is an icq number you can reach me at.

i clicked the link that you posted. looks fine to me. what tgp are you talking about that we are promoting on there?

Mike AI
03-13-2006, 04:10 PM
I did notice links where changed.

Jace
03-13-2006, 05:58 PM
woah, wait a minute

that isn't the same page that was there when gonzo made this post originally, is it?

DrGuile
03-13-2006, 06:48 PM
woah, wait a minute

that isn't the same page that was there when gonzo made this post originally, is it?


ahah, hell yes, not at all the same thing.

JR
03-13-2006, 08:49 PM
are we taking bets yet? what will it be...

"programming glitch"
"rogue employee"
"honest mistake"
"what are you talking about everything is fine - i am easy to reach, no need to take these things to the boards"

Mike AI
03-14-2006, 01:25 AM
are we taking bets yet? what will it be...

"programming glitch"
"rogue employee"
"honest mistake"
"what are you talking about everything is fine - i am easy to reach, no need to take these things to the boards"


"database issues"
"DNS problems"
"need to raise profitablity"

Dravyk
03-14-2006, 01:37 AM
"Jerry's Kids" ;)

gonzo
07-13-2006, 11:14 PM
This from the Zoo to bump the thread but this time is AFF....

AFF!! Please explain this to me.... my links not working
Ok.,,
here is a link for one of your FHG with my linking code & affiliate id
http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/page...id=g763772-pct (http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/page/tgp_ffadult_44&pid=g763772-pct)

notice the pid=g763772

when you go to the gallery,
why is it that instead of pid g763772 it shows p181022 ???

on another note,, seems the id is getting erased all together if it is used with trade script? All the AFF galleries on my site at http://www.xxxdates.com (http://www.xxxdates.com/) , when visitor gets sent to gallery, my id is completely erased?? This does not happen unless it's with the trade script url before the gallery url
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I sure hope he gets better support than I did. The dude is still getting back from lunch since I first posted this thread to give me a post mortem on what happened.

The best I got was the system "burped".

I will be sending all my commmunity traffic anywhere but these 2 sites.

I recommend swappernet, livebucks, aweempire and adult date link.

Hell Puppy
07-14-2006, 03:18 AM
That's twice they've been busted out for same offense. And both times they covered it very quickly. Ok, so either they're scamming fucks or their software sucks.

Next time someone catches 'em, do screen grabs and save off the html source as well, it'd be interesting to do some real investigation.

And if you are giving them the benefit of the doubt and running them anyway, I might suggest putting a little monitoring on your links to them. Any site monitoring script will do, give it your affiliate link as the URL to be monitored and have it look for a few key items on the page and alarm if anything doesn't look right.

Hell Puppy
07-14-2006, 03:20 AM
Same business model that others have made fortunes with.

As CJ says. nothing new in this business.

At least most are smart enough to not change the affiliate landing page itself, but do their monkey business a layer or so back. Blatently changing the landing page to something totally different is a big ole "fuck you, we think you're stupid so we're going to steal your traffic right in front of your face" to the affiliates.

Hell Puppy
07-14-2006, 03:22 AM
what are you talking about? really. look up a little, and there is an icq number you can reach me at.

i clicked the link that you posted. looks fine to me. what tgp are you talking about that we are promoting on there?

Playing dumb just makes it look worse, at least blame it on a database error like last time you were busted.

I'll ask a straight up question though....

Regardless of reason, whether it's bad intentions or honest errors, why would an affiliate want to continue sending you traffic when there seem to be frequent problems getting the affiliate link to go to the page the affiliate intended....or at least one he might get paid for.

gonzo
07-14-2006, 03:28 AM
Playing dumb just makes it look worse, at least blame it on a database error like last time you were busted.

I'll ask a straight up question though....

Regardless of reason, whether it's bad intentions or honest errors, why would an affiliate want to continue sending you traffic when there seem to be frequent problems getting the affiliate link to go to the page the affiliate intended....or at least one he might get paid for.

He cant answer you hes still at lunch from the first day I posted this.
03-11-2006, 05:31 PM

Hell Puppy
07-14-2006, 03:30 AM
He cant answer you hes still at lunch from the first day I posted this.
03-11-2006, 05:31 PM

I didn't notice you bumped an old thread...

SirenaRose
07-14-2006, 05:23 AM
Now that's a paid lunch break I'd love to take...4 months and still going strong?

I wonder if he's at a buffet, and paid for the lunch buffet once, and is still making trips back for more taters and pie...? :rolleyes: :blink:

Hammer
07-14-2006, 10:20 AM
I don't know why anyone still promotes their cams. I make bank with ClickCash and Flirt4Free and never had any sex with Streamray's stuff.

gonzo
07-15-2006, 09:41 PM
Apparently our banned buddy aeon doesnt....
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well seems that
AFF are the absolute basest of scum in this business. They make guba look like saints...they'll take traffic stolen from you with spyware affiliates...they'll steal traffic from you with deals with ad/spyware trash - not one of you fuckers has the balls to stand up (aside from the thread starter) - sleazydream is fucking bought and paid for. Adware and spyware companies look to them first.

Fucking cowards and sigwhores...you'd rather deal with thieves that are cool on message boards than have any balls. I hope you starve to death - which won't happen...none of you will give up your 2k a month to say anything...

It's absolutely amazing...you'll beg for scraps from someone that is stealing from you - openly. I hate all of you...with a passion.

Think about it - other people pay more...they don't have URL fuckups-they don't require a certain amount of traffic...that are always off from your scripts.

Yet you people beg for the chance to kiss ass. Look at this thread - you deserve it. I hope they profit from every bit of content you pay to produce.
It's fucking amazing - you've announced "steal from me" as long as your checks clear.

I'm seriously thinking about giving away 10K just to leave this place with fucking ass kissing sigwhore starving and take the actual webmasters away.

Hammer
07-15-2006, 10:25 PM
hehe, I can't edit the post now, but obviously I meant I haven't had any 'luck' with Sreamray's stuff.

Now, I need to see my therapist to find out if that was a Freudian slip, and if so, what it means.

melloman
07-16-2006, 05:15 PM
Aff is a total scam we all know that. Also they very rarely pay. Streamrayfor some reason when A check gets issued to me it takes almost a month for me to recieve it when I am 1 state away. I believe these guys are always up to some sort of scam.

Jace
07-16-2006, 11:34 PM
it is funny how I keep bringing up all of this on GFY and lars never seems to respond

gonzo
07-16-2006, 11:37 PM
it is funny how I keep bringing up all of this on GFY and lars never seems to respond

I think hes worried about a lawsuit thas a year old.

gonzo
10-15-2006, 06:20 PM
With all the adware scandal going on... the attemps at Sean to tell me nothing was wrong and Lars being forced....I figured Id bump this thread to remind Sean thatyou guys never gave me a post morteum on what was going on with my traffic.

Recent events seem to confirm my intial suspecions....

JR
10-15-2006, 08:57 PM
keep pressuring them and you might "force" them to scam more to cover potential losses arising from uncovered scams and bad PR. it won't be their fault. damn you Gonzo! stop forcing people to steal.

HellHouse
10-16-2006, 02:32 AM
wow.. this is almost like..whoa.. AFF is becoming Niteflirt...


deja vu

Hell Puppy
10-16-2006, 05:08 AM
Where there's smoke....

Let's all stick our heads in the sand and pretend we really believe anyone can pay $105 per signup or whatever the specials are these days and NOT fudge, scam, shave or skim.

JR
10-16-2006, 10:08 AM
Where there's smoke....

Let's all stick our heads in the sand and pretend we really believe anyone can pay $105 per signup or whatever the specials are these days and NOT fudge, scam, shave or skim.

i dont think that paying out 105.00 per sign up for them requires shaving or stealing. their average member are most likely spending well over 500.00 - meaning total sales divided by total number people who spend money.

generally, people just really seem to have no idea what cam members are worth. thats how some of these companies got so huge, so fast to begin with. ;)

imagine paying out only 35.00 per join to your paysite (or even much less for years because of how commissions are structured)... where the average member is worth 500.00 - 1000.00

free money :)

being online since 98 and having the volume of rooms online that they do, means a whole lot of repeat users... spending a whole lot of money every month, for a very long time.

jerseygto
10-16-2006, 10:43 AM
Hummmm the more you know :huh: damn you guys are making me think now:hmm:

gonzo
11-13-2006, 03:52 PM
keep pressuring them and you might "force" them to scam more to cover potential losses arising from uncovered scams and bad PR. it won't be their fault. damn you Gonzo! stop forcing people to steal.
Hell its forced Lars to come out of the closet.

gonzo
04-27-2007, 11:35 PM
Hey Sean are you back from lunch yet?

Or is it that I was right all along.
I guess I know why you redirected my streamray traffic to AFF now.

Was this when you guys first started your "campaign" with Zango?

melloman
08-15-2007, 08:13 PM
I have had lots of problems with Streamray and AFF

gonzo
12-01-2008, 08:54 AM
Just a reminder that you heard it here first on Oprano.

AFF are fucking thieves.