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saintjaq
02-12-2006, 03:31 AM
Masterpiece Magazine looking for joint venture

Masterpiece Magazine will allow men, women, and couples to place their erotic photos and possibly their personal information within our pages for a small price. We are currently in our start up phase. We are seeking venture capitalist or angel investors to help fund our start up phase in exchange for equity in Masterpiece Magazine. We are seeking $800,000 to $2.5million for financing masterpiece Magazine until we become profitable. If you think you would be interested in becoming partners in this venture please contact us at info@masterpiecemagazine.net for more information. Check out our website www.masterpiecemagazine.net

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 05:49 AM
Hard copy magazine start up in the internet age?

good luck, you need LOTS of it.

JoesHO
02-12-2006, 10:23 AM
for $2.8 million I can buy 12 titles with a combination of 200K in circulation already, and newstand rack space. I know the principle and can do this deal anytime I want it .

I am not one to burst a bubble, however I think you should map out a new plan.

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 10:42 AM
well, Joe, let's admit the truth, we are just jelous that this great idea haven't come into our heads first.

oh well...
anyway,
here is the e-mail you can send your business plan and idea
gkremen@aol.com
he has lots of expereince with start up companies and been on the board of directors of practically all new start ups

JoesHO
02-12-2006, 11:07 AM
well, Joe, let's admit the truth, we are just jelous that this great idea haven't come into our heads first.

oh well...
anyway,
here is the e-mail you can send your business plan and idea
gkremen@aol.com
he has lots of expereince with start up companies and been on the board of directors of practically all new start ups


Well I do not want to sully your good name, so I must politley disagree with you. In fact I am not even going to drink RED wine anymore

I do not want Mike AI to continue to attempt to make derogatory comments about your razor sharp mind by attempting to say we agree on things .

I mean according to MikeAI I am not a smart man, so you would not want to be seen publically taking the same stance as me anyway. :)

So I would say send all Start up ideas to Jimthefiend he is new start up expert ( this way we can not be guilty of colusion in business practice)

JR
02-12-2006, 01:04 PM
a few questions just for fun:

1) why would someone pay to have their pics in a magazine, when they can have them all over the web for free and even create their own website for free in a few minutes?

2) how do you intend to distribute such a magazine?

3) why do you think there is a demand for such a thing?

4) how do you intend to get the word out about this opportunity to people who would be submitting photos?

JR
02-12-2006, 01:15 PM
ok. i am bored.

a few more.


1) who are the principles in the company?

2) what are they bringing to the venture? how much capital? their roles? what are they risking?

3) why should someone invest money in YOU?

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 01:20 PM
Well, believe it or not, this is an ingenious idea. Think about the auto trader. Why would people put their cars in a magazine instead of the internet? How many people you know would put a nude photo on the internet? A lot of them. To me that's not physical evidence. Physical evidence is something you can pack up and take with you. Masterpiece Magazine is that physical evidence. You would love to tell your buddies I was in a magazine, because thats not common in the world. Sure you can put your photos on the internet, but hell you would get lost in the millions of other photos on the internet. Then it really wouldn't mean shit. You would break out of the box with masterpiece magazine. Then, your buddies would envy you because you were in a magazine and now they want to be in a magazine. So you tell them, CALL ME and get ya credit cards ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 01:27 PM
JR,
you got over this child head...

Joe,
Mike can post whatever he wants....I have an indenious idea:
why don't we start publishing the magazine and charge him money to print his posts?

I have 2 potential subscribers, we are ahead of saintjaq
in "identify demand" department!

JR
02-12-2006, 01:44 PM
Well, believe it or not, this is an ingenious idea. Think about the auto trader. Why would people put their cars in a magazine instead of the internet? How many people you know would put a nude photo on the internet? A lot of them. To me that's not physical evidence. Physical evidence is something you can pack up and take with you. Masterpiece Magazine is that physical evidence. You would love to tell your buddies I was in a magazine, because thats not common in the world. Sure you can put your photos on the internet, but hell you would get lost in the millions of other photos on the internet. Then it really wouldn't mean shit. You would break out of the box with masterpiece magazine. Then, your buddies would envy you because you were in a magazine and now they want to be in a magazine. So you tell them, CALL ME and get ya credit cards ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

to any serious business person, your answer says; "well, i dont know. I dont have any real experience in business and business management. I know nothing about the magazine business and want to jump in with both feet with YOUR money and basically all i have is what i believe to be a good idea and will hopefully figure things out as i go". good luck with that sales pitch. haha :)

why not go for the gold and colonize mars and establish the space tourism industry? you will certainly be a billionaire in no time. its a great idea right? thats all that matters. everything else is just details.

the name "masterpiece..." is terrible as well. it conjures up images of great works of art, refinement, sophistication etc and people will open it to see the nastiest images they have ever seen in their lives.

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 01:49 PM
Everyone lets not assume so much. I have a business Management degree. If you don't like the idea then don't worry about it. Don't post assumptions to make me look like an idiot. That's not adult!!!!!!

JR
02-12-2006, 01:53 PM
Everyone lets not assume so much. I have a business Management degree. If you don't like the idea then don't worry about it. Don't post assumptions to make me look like an idiot. That's not adult!!!!!!

you have a business management degree and yet your post suggests you are about 19 and taking breaks from playing Half Life on your Playstation to post solicitations for $250,000.00 in venture capital on porn messageboards.

investors don't typically invest in ideas. they invest in people. ideas are the easy part. turning them into a profitable business is the part that takes talent.

you could just answer the questions so we don't have to "assume"

Peaches
02-12-2006, 01:58 PM
Autotrader is free, no?

JR
02-12-2006, 02:07 PM
Autotrader is free, no?

no, you have to pay to list a car or other item. but i say there is a massive distinction to be made in paying .001% of the value of a 30,000.00 vehicle to get pictures in front of 1000's of qualified buyers, to sell it right away and paying for the right to show my white, hairy ass to relatively few strangers for absolutely no gain whatsoever. :)

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 02:08 PM
Jealousy is a deadly sin!!!!! Like I said before if you don't agree, don't worry about it. I'm a legit business person and I have the drive to succeed in whatever I do. I don't have to answer your questions to get your approval, I don't need your approval. Are you going to invest in Masterpiece Magazine? Judging by your assumptions, I guess not. Don't down someone else's dreams. That's not adult!!!! You make me think you were bullied in school so you feel comfortable downing other people from the security of a home computer. That's not adult!!! Let me finish off by saying thank you, but no thank you. You can keep all assumptions to yourself
May you all be successful,
Saintjaq

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 02:11 PM
Everyone lets not assume so much. I have a business Management degree. If you don't like the idea then don't worry about it. Don't post assumptions to make me look like an idiot. That's not adult!!!!!!


I have degree in High Voltage Engineering...wanna invest in my new transmission line? 2 mils should do it for start.

JR
02-12-2006, 02:12 PM
Jealousy is a deadly sin!!!!! Like I said before if you don't agree, don't worry about it. I'm a legit business person and I have the drive to succeed in whatever I do. I don't have to answer your questions to get your approval, I don't need your approval. Are you going to invest in Masterpiece Magazine? Judging by your assumptions, I guess not. Don't down someone else's dreams. That's not adult!!!! You make me think you were bullied in school so you feel comfortable downing other people from the security of a home computer. That's not adult!!! Let me finish off by saying thank you, but no thank you. You can keep all assumptions to yourself
May you all be successful,
Saintjaq

you had the perfect chance to promote yourself, your ideas and possibly sway people into believing you actually had the talent and ability to pull it off. instead, you used that opportunity to show you have absolutely no clue at all.

just a bit of forewarning.... if you are asking strangers for 2.5 million dollars, you might run into a question or 2.

JoesHO
02-12-2006, 02:12 PM
you know, we new welcome people to Oprano......

But damn dude, you idea sucks donkey balls and you get pissed off at us for it ???

JR ( even though he is a right winger) has asked you some very good questions and you have yet to provide an answear.

how do you expect anyone that serious about business to think you are? did they teach you these tactics in school when you got your degree? and speaking of wich where did you get your degree from ?

if it is just the idea you bring to the table ( wich for the record I think sucks) but lets just say it was actually a good idea, why would I not just steal it and run with it if I have all the money and the contacts, and all you have is your degree and a good idea?

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 02:13 PM
Jealousy is a deadly sin!!!!! Like I said before if you don't agree, don't worry about it. I'm a legit business person and I have the drive to succeed in whatever I do. I don't have to answer your questions to get your approval, I don't need your approval. Are you going to invest in Masterpiece Magazine? Judging by your assumptions, I guess not. Don't down someone else's dreams. That's not adult!!!! You make me think you were bullied in school so you feel comfortable downing other people from the security of a home computer. That's not adult!!! Let me finish off by saying thank you, but no thank you. You can keep all assumptions to yourself
May you all be successful,
Saintjaq


hmmm...I think 19 is stretching. Sounds more like high school to me.

JoesHO
02-12-2006, 02:16 PM
Saintjag, you can , still now after learning some valuable lessons from Oprano already. Teach us how good your degree is .

all you need to do is answear the business questions as they were proposed to you, are you able to do so ?

JR
02-12-2006, 02:16 PM
its a bit comical, you have to admit. "give me 2.5 million. if you ask questions, its just because you are an asshole trampling on my dreams"

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 02:19 PM
I'm not upset, I just don't understand if you think my idea sucks why worry about it? Why waste time to type bullshit? Why say im a young dummy? What for? Do you get pleasure? Do that make you feel smart? Just a few questions.

JR
02-12-2006, 02:21 PM
I'm not upset, I just don't understand if you think my idea sucks why worry about it? Why waste time to type bullshit? Why say im a young dummy? What for? Do you get pleasure? Do that make you feel smart? Just a few questions.

if you are a real business person and serious... why not show it by making us see that its actually a great idea and you are the best person to make it happen? more money will read this thread than you will ever see in the rest of your life.

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 02:22 PM
You can ask all the questions you want if you were really interested. Your asking questions so you tell a joke. Be funny or something

JoesHO
02-12-2006, 02:24 PM
did you actually listen in school?

why would anyone take you serious if you cant answear the questions?
just answear that one to start with, and we will walk you through from there OK .

JR
02-12-2006, 02:27 PM
You can ask all the questions you want if you were really interested. Your asking questions so you tell a joke. Be funny or something

ok... one last attempt to clue you in on the basics. if you answer the questions, it would determine peoples level of interest if any. it could lead to more questions, start a serious discussion and get quite a few people with money to perk up and listen to what you have to say. its your chance to pitch your idea and yourself. so far, you really suck at asking for 2.5 million dollars.

no one is interested in an abreviated "i have a dream" speech from a complete stranger who looks like he just woke up and forgot to take his meds. you have to do better than that to peak anyones interests.

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 02:42 PM
He peaked my interest, JR, I haven't seen "a moron with no clue" for a very long time.

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 02:46 PM
JR,
you sound like this guy in the clip... (http://secretmarks.com/matm/is/01.mpg)

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 02:54 PM
You are the type of people, that will find something wrong with everything I say and make a joke out of it. That's cool, I expected that. I can deal with your criticism as long as you don't get ugly. I don't want to post my business plan on here. We are in the start up phase of operation. I, Jarquis McCoy, am the owner of Masterpiece Magazine. I have my business management degree from York technical college, a 2 year school. Yea I've never ran a magazine plubication before. As far as running Masterpiece Magazine, I will hire the right personnel for the job. Masterpiece Magazine will be broken down into two parts customer version and a newsstand version. This way we could get as many people as we want. For ex. Lets say we receive 100,000 customers, we would make different versions of masterpiece mag., we would put 500 to 1000 photos in each version according to the area they live in. So if we have 100,000 customers that send us 100,000 photos then we would have 100 different versions with a 1000 photos each. This is would be our customer version. The newsstand version will be chosen out of our customer version. Contest will be ran for the best photos. Marketing- Adultfriendfinder and all of their affiliates, ect Advertise on all of the adult chat, dating, and personals. Too see a full business plan please email info@masterpiecemagazine.net
I have a sample page for you too

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 03:01 PM
so? you see, it wasn't hard and don't you wish you STARTED with this in your first post and skipped all the bullshit?

"You can only make your first impression once"

send to e-mail I posted earlier, this is your best chance.

fusionx
02-12-2006, 03:14 PM
I'm pretty sure I've seen swinger's magazines, and other mags where people publish their nudes, all over the place. You only find them in the adult bookstores and such. How is this different?

Peaches
02-12-2006, 03:30 PM
no, you have to pay to list a car or other item. but i say there is a massive distinction to be made in paying .001% of the value of a 30,000.00 vehicle to get pictures in front of 1000's of qualified buyers, to sell it right away and paying for the right to show my white, hairy ass to relatively few strangers for absolutely no gain whatsoever. :)
I meant it was free to the "buyer" ;)

I daresay Autotrader's website gets a LOT more business than its paper mag which is why I think they give the paper one free now. IOW, the paper mag really isn't worth much, IMO.

Biggy
02-12-2006, 03:40 PM
Everyone lets not assume so much. I have a business Management degree.


line of the century... wheres the pearl icon.

Mike AI
02-12-2006, 03:44 PM
Joe, I did not say you were not smart. I just said I found it amusing that you and Serge brains are on the same page on so many issues.

I am cannot speak about intelligence, I am the guy who made the bell curve famous. I am average.

I know Genuis, I have met Genuis and it is not me.

JoesHO
02-12-2006, 04:05 PM
Joe, I did not say you were not smart. I just said I found it amusing that you and Serge brains are on the same page on so many issues.

I am cannot speak about intelligence, I am the guy who made the bell curve famous. I am average.

I know Genuis, I have met Genuis and it is not me.

hahaah Nor me, but I do frequently stay at holiday inn express when travelling. :okthumb:

Yeah Mike I must say I have a high level of respect for you, .....

seems your ONLY faults were indocterinated to you at birth ( at least you know them) :)

JoesHO
02-12-2006, 04:08 PM
You are the type of people, that will find something wrong with everything I say and make a joke out of it. That's cool, I expected that. I can deal with your criticism as long as you don't get ugly. I don't want to post my business plan on here. We are in the start up phase of operation. I, Jarquis McCoy, am the owner of Masterpiece Magazine. I have my business management degree from York technical college, a 2 year school. Yea I've never ran a magazine plubication before. As far as running Masterpiece Magazine, I will hire the right personnel for the job. Masterpiece Magazine will be broken down into two parts customer version and a newsstand version. This way we could get as many people as we want. For ex. Lets say we receive 100,000 customers, we would make different versions of masterpiece mag., we would put 500 to 1000 photos in each version according to the area they live in. So if we have 100,000 customers that send us 100,000 photos then we would have 100 different versions with a 1000 photos each. This is would be our customer version. The newsstand version will be chosen out of our customer version. Contest will be ran for the best photos. Marketing- Adultfriendfinder and all of their affiliates, ect Advertise on all of the adult chat, dating, and personals. Too see a full business plan please email info@masterpiecemagazine.net
I have a sample page for you too

what Magazines that doo 100,000 customers did you study ?

how do they get their customers?
How will you get yours?

are you familiar with the policy of newsstands? or do you plan on just going to a store and adding them ?

How much will it cost you for a distributor to handle things?

Where do you plan on hiring these magazine experts from ? How much will they want in salary?
How many will you need?
How many sales people will it take to reach this number of 100,000 ?

Mike AI
02-12-2006, 04:10 PM
hahaah Nor me, but I do frequently stay at holiday inn express when travelling. :okthumb:

Yeah Mike I must say I have a high level of respect for you, .....

seems your ONLY faults were indocterinated to you at birth ( at least you know them) :)


Joe, its ok. I knew at birth that I had the burden of carrying the liberal kooks along to the promised land. To some people it would be a curse, but some of my favorite people in the world are liberals. I am happy to protect, and handle the real world so liberals can pretend that Bush is more of a danger to the world then Ahmadinejad.

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 04:11 PM
Joe, I did not say you were not smart. I just said I found it amusing that you and Serge brains are on the same page on so many issues.

I am cannot speak about intelligence, I am the guy who made the bell curve famous. I am average.

I know Genuis, I have met Genuis and it is not me.

I find it amusing that Mike not just copies my spelling but my grammar as well.

Sin
02-12-2006, 04:29 PM
Masterpiece Magazine looking for joint venture

Masterpiece Magazine will allow men, women, and couples to place their erotic photos and possibly their personal information within our pages for a small price. We are currently in our start up phase. We are seeking venture capitalist or angel investors to help fund our start up phase in exchange for equity in Masterpiece Magazine. We are seeking $800,000 to $2.5million for financing masterpiece Magazine until we become profitable. If you think you would be interested in becoming partners in this venture please contact us at info@masterpiecemagazine.net for more information. Check out our website www.masterpiecemagazine.net

As a woman, I wouldn't want to pay to post my pictures anywhere like in a magazine, where you would be reaping the profits off my imagery, without some kind of compensation. This is a bad business idea... you're hoping to make money off the people who both put their images in the magazine, as well as off the customers who you are hoping would buy the magazine. Given that there are several individuals out there with completely whacked ideas of what is "erotic" nevermind awful photographers, I think this is a bad route to go. You'd end up with some truly awful images, and I am not seeing any indication that this is a well thought out plan either in this post, or in any of the rest of the thread.

Answer me this, if you can. Why should I pay you, to make money off me? If money is to be made off one of my personal images, I'd quite like to be receiving some of that cash.

Well, believe it or not, this is an ingenious idea. Think about the auto trader. Why would people put their cars in a magazine instead of the internet? How many people you know would put a nude photo on the internet? A lot of them. To me that's not physical evidence. Physical evidence is something you can pack up and take with you. Masterpiece Magazine is that physical evidence. You would love to tell your buddies I was in a magazine, because thats not common in the world. Sure you can put your photos on the internet, but hell you would get lost in the millions of other photos on the internet. Then it really wouldn't mean shit. You would break out of the box with masterpiece magazine. Then, your buddies would envy you because you were in a magazine and now they want to be in a magazine. So you tell them, CALL ME and get ya credit cards ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comparing a magazine of images to the Auto Trader, is again very poor business thinking, nevermind business planning. The auto trader first of all is free to those who wish to look at it, (because they are hoping to BUY A CAR) Individuals PAY to put images of their car into the Auto trader, because they are hoping to SELL THEIR CAR. I am not offering up prostitution, so really when I am to reap zero financial benefit from paying for this personal advertising (which is advertising nothing beyond my own arrogance) then there is no reason for me to pay. I can be arrogant elsewhere, and share my pictures through other avenues, for free. (This could very well be why a magazine like this does not already exist, because it is a BAD idea, not an ingenious one)

Everyone lets not assume so much. I have a business Management degree. If you don't like the idea then don't worry about it. Don't post assumptions to make me look like an idiot. That's not adult!!!!!!

Getting defensive over the fact that people other than you, (and I'm going to add that you're very biased since this is YOUR idea) don't like the idea, is very immature. People are going to post their "assumptions" and their questions and their opinions and we don't have to do that to make you look like an idiot, you're doing a fine job of that part all on your own.

Jealousy is a deadly sin!!!!! Like I said before if you don't agree, don't worry about it. I'm a legit business person and I have the drive to succeed in whatever I do. I don't have to answer your questions to get your approval, I don't need your approval. Are you going to invest in Masterpiece Magazine? Judging by your assumptions, I guess not. Don't down someone else's dreams. That's not adult!!!! You make me think you were bullied in school so you feel comfortable downing other people from the security of a home computer. That's not adult!!! Let me finish off by saying thank you, but no thank you. You can keep all assumptions to yourself
May you all be successful,
Saintjaq

Your attitude is increasingly unprofessional, and leaves me to wonder whether you have in fact any kind of a degree beyond a high school diploma. If you have even that. Asking questions is hardly jealousy, and pointing out that you are being an idiot is not jealousy either. Its just that we are superior to you, plain & simple. Don't get upset about it, the sooner you realize & accept that no matter how far up the ladder you may climb that there will always be lessons to be learned & someone who knows more than you, then the sooner you'll be able to move up the ladder with the aid of the knowledge of those who DO know more than you. :) What's more, is that to gain investment as you call it, (or a handout is what it truly looks like you're asking for, and a rather large one at that) ...you DO have to gain approval.

I'm not upset, I just don't understand if you think my idea sucks why worry about it? Why waste time to type bullshit? Why say im a young dummy? What for? Do you get pleasure? Do that make you feel smart? Just a few questions.

You are not upset, yet you are getting defensive and slinging insinuations of jealousy & idiocy about. Very unprofessional, and not very well received in the *ahem* Adult, world... nevermind the business one.

You are the type of people, that will find something wrong with everything I say and make a joke out of it. That's cool, I expected that. I can deal with your criticism as long as you don't get ugly. I don't want to post my business plan on here. We are in the start up phase of operation. I, Jarquis McCoy, am the owner of Masterpiece Magazine. I have my business management degree from York technical college, a 2 year school. Yea I've never ran a magazine plubication before. As far as running Masterpiece Magazine, I will hire the right personnel for the job. Masterpiece Magazine will be broken down into two parts customer version and a newsstand version. This way we could get as many people as we want. For ex. Lets say we receive 100,000 customers, we would make different versions of masterpiece mag., we would put 500 to 1000 photos in each version according to the area they live in. So if we have 100,000 customers that send us 100,000 photos then we would have 100 different versions with a 1000 photos each. This is would be our customer version. The newsstand version will be chosen out of our customer version. Contest will be ran for the best photos. Marketing- Adultfriendfinder and all of their affiliates, ect Advertise on all of the adult chat, dating, and personals. Too see a full business plan please email info@masterpiecemagazine.net
I have a sample page for you too

Again you are jumping to conclusions. "You are the type of people.." --You have no idea who we are, you have no idea what our experiences are, yet you come here looking for a 2.5 million dollar handout, refuse to give a business plan, refuse to answer any reasonable questions, become argumentative, and stating elaborate brilliance such as "I will hire the right personnel for the job." That's real in depth. And here I was thinking you were planning on hiring the wrong personnel? </sarcasm>

Now, you said it will be broken down into two parts. Newsstand & customer version. I'm curious, who are the people who will buy this magazine off the newsstand, if not customers? I'd think of a different term for this "customer" version of yours.

And finally...

If you assume that all that there is to learn in life, has been learned from your classroom, then you have already failed before you have even begun, and your professors have also failed to teach you that EXPERIENCE tends to be the best method of learning. You're not talking to classmates here, you're talking to superiors & you'd be well advised to take a different approach than the immature & defensive & close-minded one which you have displayed so far. Your determination & ...passion, is a good thing yes, however if used unwisely it can also be a fault.

fusionx
02-12-2006, 04:51 PM
Sin is sooo sexy when she's debating :)

If you assume that all that there is to learn in life, has been learned from your classroom, then you have already failed before you have even begun, and your professors have also failed to teach you that EXPERIENCE tends to be the best method of learning. You're not talking to classmates here, you're talking to superiors & you'd be well advised to take a different approach than the immature & defensive & close-minded one which you have displayed so far. Your determination & ...passion, is a good thing yes, however if used unwisely it can also be a fault.

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 05:08 PM
Sin,
I appreciate your indept analysis of my post, but you only picked the negative points about my professionalism and my magazine. You get your picture in my magazine for a small fee. That's a choice the customer would have to make. There are millions of diff. people throughout the world., not just Sin. Your post shows me that you took your time to really pick out all of my comments towards others. And your wrong, unless you are interested in being partners with masterpiece magazine, and by that I mean email me personally to get my full business plan, then I don't have to amuse you with an explanation of my business. Again, I really do appreciate your comments , but lets focus on my business idea. I know there are people out their that try to make an ass out of people. Please, lets not be one of those people. Again If you do not like my idea, then don't worry about it.
Thanks
Saintjaq

Vick
02-12-2006, 05:09 PM
You are the type of people, ......That's cool, I expected

We are in the start up phase of operation. I, Jarquis McCoy, am the owner of Masterpiece Magazine. I have my business management degree from York technical college, a 2 year school......... info@masterpiecemagazine.net
I have a sample page for you too


Yep I am a type of people

If you can turn down the ego a little (some very successful people can't but kept it hidden until ....) it might benefit

in a few hours here you've gotten parts of an education that you didn't get with a 2 year whoop de doo degree, ponder that a moment if you will

I wish you some success but currently your presentation is lacking
But this is an intersting place to fine tune it

Vick
02-12-2006, 05:14 PM
Sin,
I appreciate your indept analysis of my post, but you only picked the negative points about my professionalism and my magazine. You get your picture in my magazine for a small fee. That's a choice the customer would have to make. There are millions of diff. people throughout the world., not just Sin. Your post shows me that you took your time to really pick out all of my comments towards others. And your wrong, unless you are interested in being partners with masterpiece magazine, and by that I mean email me personally to get my full business plan, then I don't have to amuse you with an explanation of my business. Again, I really do appreciate your comments , but lets focus on my business idea. I know there are people out their that try to make an ass out of people. Please, lets not be one of those people. Again If you do not like my idea, then don't worry about it.
Thanks
Saintjaq

Psss what about women get in the mag for free and men have to pay
(your male to female applicants may be unequal to start)

How are you going to get apps to start (let's say you'll need 25-50 total apps to start)?

Who is selling your advertising, what type of advertisers will take space in your publication (think you're going to generate enough revenue from just apps and newsstand sales)?

You've got an idea and a lot of moxie .....

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 05:15 PM
Vick
you're right I do need to calm down and focus on the real reason im here.
All of your questions will be answered in my business plan. Distribution, marketing, logistics, Principals, And alternative ways to do business. Its a very well put together business plan
Thanks Vick
Saintjaq

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 05:18 PM
That could be a possibility vick

Vick
02-12-2006, 05:22 PM
Your welcome
I find this interesting because your flirting with one of my favorite business concepts

Find a need and fill it with others efforts
(I learned that from a wise man and have watched a few people ride it well)

gonzo
02-12-2006, 05:33 PM
Well, believe it or not, this is an ingenious idea. Think about the auto trader. Why would people put their cars in a magazine instead of the internet? How many people you know would put a nude photo on the internet? A lot of them. To me that's not physical evidence. Physical evidence is something you can pack up and take with you. Masterpiece Magazine is that physical evidence. You would love to tell your buddies I was in a magazine, because thats not common in the world. Sure you can put your photos on the internet, but hell you would get lost in the millions of other photos on the internet. Then it really wouldn't mean shit. You would break out of the box with masterpiece magazine. Then, your buddies would envy you because you were in a magazine and now they want to be in a magazine. So you tell them, CALL ME and get ya credit cards ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Id rather tell my friends I hang out with Jenna Jamison and Janine and have the pictures to prove it.

Biggy
02-12-2006, 05:36 PM
come on people.. he has a business management degree from a 2 year school... didnt you know, that guarantees success and means your qualified to solicit 7 figure sums to run a business you have no experience in!!!!

and lets not forget once a very highly skilled adult webmaster ran a pretty large magazine and closed it down because it wasn't profitable. he only cited reasons that deal with the underlying business model as the reason, but thats no reason to be jealous of the idea and pursue it on your own!!!

gonzo
02-12-2006, 05:37 PM
I'm not upset, I just don't understand if you think my idea sucks why worry about it? Why waste time to type bullshit? Why say im a young dummy? What for? Do you get pleasure? Do that make you feel smart? Just a few questions.

Keep in mind your first post here was panhandling for 2.5 million dollars before you arch your back.

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 06:54 PM
Sin is sooo sexy when she's debating :)

I'd do her!

sorry, Peaches
;)

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 06:55 PM
Your welcome
I find this interesting because your flirting with one of my favorite business concepts

Find a need and fill it with others efforts
(I learned that from a wise man and have watched a few people ride it well)

Thank you, Vick
:)

Sin
02-12-2006, 07:06 PM
Sin,
I appreciate your indept analysis of my post, but you only picked the negative points about my professionalism and my magazine.

I quoted your entire posts, if negative points are all I picked, then negative is all you've shown. It says a lot about your degree of professionalism & if you don't like it, ...well, only you can change it. :) By the way, your levels of grammar & spelling leave a great deal to be desired as well, for someone who is claiming he is a professional.

You get your picture in my magazine for a small fee. That's a choice the customer would have to make. There are millions of diff. people throughout the world., not just Sin.

Yes, I pay you to get my picture in your magazine, what for? What benefit do *I* reap from it? The mere prestige of publicly posting private images? Of being able to tell my friends "Hey I'm in a magazine?" ...in the end, it amounts to little IMO especially since its a magazine entirely of individually submitted pictures, it would hardly make my presence in the magazine special, removing supposed prestige. Again, the comparison to Auto Trader is a poor one, the benefit that the Auto Trader submitted pictures reap, is they get their car sold.

Your post shows me that you took your time to really pick out all of my comments towards others. And your wrong, unless you are interested in being partners with masterpiece magazine, and by that I mean email me personally to get my full business plan, then I don't have to amuse you with an explanation of my business. Again, I really do appreciate your comments , but lets focus on my business idea. I know there are people out their that try to make an ass out of people. Please, lets not be one of those people. Again If you do not like my idea, then don't worry about it.
Thanks
Saintjaq

My problem with this part of your last post is that yes I did take the time to really pick out all of your posts. I always feel it is best to cover all the bases, especially when the further posts merely further helped me prove the points I was making.

As far as you "having to amuse me with an explanation of your business" ...well, I'd say given that you came on here & your first post was a request for investment in the amount of $800,000-2.5 Million, then yes, you better be prepared to give an explanation of your business to people. Nobody has tried to make an ass out of you on this board, you are the one who has jumped to that conclusion on your own when faced with questions & people who didn't like the concept. Someone not liking your idea is not them trying to make an ass of you, and neither is someone asking questions about your plan to further their own understanding of it. You returning said statements & queries with defensive tactics however, IS making an ass of you.

Sin
02-12-2006, 07:08 PM
Sin is sooo sexy when she's debating :)

Why thank you! :)

Sin
02-12-2006, 07:11 PM
I'd do her!

sorry, Peaches
;)

What type of wine would you bring along with you? ;)

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 07:22 PM
Sin,
How about your return tactics? If mine is making an ass out of me, then what is yours? How about we are making an ass out of ourselves. You are very contradicting in what you post. Im an ass for what I post, but you're not.

JR
02-12-2006, 07:27 PM
so... i have read everything in its entirety and can
summarize this "investment opportunity" and
saintjaq with a simple image.

but it has given me a great idea. I am off to GFY to
ask for $5,000,000,000.00 for my Colonize the Moon by
2008 project! It will put my 13 days of owning an ant
farm when i was 6 to good use. Wish me luck!

http://www.uvasportsfanatic.com/train%20wreck.jpg

gonzo
02-12-2006, 07:39 PM
Sin,
How about your return tactics? If mine is making an ass out of me, then what is yours? How about we are making an ass out of ourselves. You are very contradicting in what you post. Im an ass for what I post, but you're not.

I took away points because your making my head hurt, your on dial up and your sounding like Lawrence Conner now.

Sin
02-12-2006, 07:49 PM
Sin,
How about your return tactics? If mine is making an ass out of me, then what is yours? How about we are making an ass out of ourselves. You are very contradicting in what you post. Im an ass for what I post, but you're not.

You came on here, asking for 2.5 million dollars. That on its own is pretty outrageous for a start. You then got defensive towards comments & people who disagreed with your IDEA. God forbid anybody should have an opinion that doesn't coincide with yours, is the impression YOU gave.

So you don't agree with my opinion. That's fine, and even predictable, given how you've responded to others whose opinion has not matched your own.

Truthfully, however, no I am not an ass for what I post. You are new to this board, and those who are here are likely also aware that I have a MUCH greater capability to be an ass towards you. I'm being polite towards you, yes I am pointing out the error of your ways, its so you can fix them. Marketing is a key part of business at all levels, not just a part of promotion of the end result. So far you're not doing the best job of marketing yourself for what you're trying to accomplish. You still have not answered any of my questions, by the way, and do not come back with the retort that "The answers will all lay in the business plan & you can email me at ________ to get a copy" because frankly if you can't answer the last question I asked, then you've really got a LOT of work yet to do on this plan and are not yet to the stage where you need to be asking for 2.5 million dollars.

Let me repeat it real quick.

I pay you to get my picture in your magazine, what for? What benefit do *I* reap from it?

That is not the question of an investor, that is the question of a ..."customer" (someone who would be paying to submit their images). It can be answered by you without a business plan. ;)

By the way, don't take such offense to me probing you to think. Thinking is good.

sarettah
02-12-2006, 07:51 PM
Thinking is good.


It usually just makes my head hurt :blink:

Sin
02-12-2006, 07:57 PM
I took away ppoints becasue your making my head hurt, your on dial up and your sounding like Lawrence Conner now.

I hate to say it, I really do, but LC made sense compared to this guy.

Sin
02-12-2006, 07:57 PM
It usually just makes my head hurt :blink:

So does oral sex no doubt if its prolonged long enough, but oral sex is good too.

gonzo
02-12-2006, 07:59 PM
So does oral sex no doubt if its prolonged long enough, but oral sex is good too.

Their jaw usually get sore before I get a headache

Sin
02-12-2006, 08:02 PM
Their jaw usually get sore before I get a headache

Was referring to the other head, dear, but if their jaw is getting sore you're either HUGE or they're doing something terribly wrong & need to simply relax. :)

sarettah
02-12-2006, 08:02 PM
Their jaw usually get sore before I get a headache


You so beat me to it :yowsa:

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 09:35 PM
Ok thats fine I'm finished

JR
02-12-2006, 09:36 PM
quitter! no way i am giving you 2.5 million now.

:blink:

JoesHO
02-12-2006, 09:36 PM
Go to http://www.gfy.com and ask for the same investment and see how it goes for you .

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 09:40 PM
Im done with the small talk. If you want to to business, then lets talk business if not lets not talk!!:)

JR
02-12-2006, 09:42 PM
Im done with the small talk. If you want to to business, then lets talk business if not lets not talk!!:)

ok. you drive a hard bargain.
i will go to 3 million. last offer.

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 09:46 PM
What type of wine would you bring along with you? ;)

I think 1945 Mouton Rothschild will fit your personality to the T....

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 09:48 PM
Im an ass for what I post, but you're not.

wrong again...she is a NICE piece of ass and you are
just an ass.

saintjaq
02-12-2006, 09:49 PM
Yea, Ha Ha ha Im serious about what I do. You are going to see Masterpiece Magazine somewhere in some newsstand, thats my word. I know it!!!!!:okthumb:
Thank You
Saintjaq/ Owner
Masterpiece Magazine

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 09:52 PM
Im done with the small talk. If you want to to business, then lets talk business if not lets not talk!!:)

oh no, Sir, you are now our property to do with you what we wish.

Do you do anal? I think I can teach you how to make 2.5 mils.

JoesHO
02-12-2006, 09:53 PM
Good luck, be sure to come back and rub it in our face when you make it . :okthumb:

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 09:53 PM
Yea, Ha Ha ha Im serious about what I do. You are going to see Masterpiece Magazine somewhere in some newsstand, thats my word. I know it!!!!!:okthumb:
Thank You
Saintjaq/ Owner
Masterpiece Magazine

hmmmm...what kind of quality paper you intend to use for your magazine? If it soft, I might see it in my bathroom, I am Russian, I am not picky.

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 09:54 PM
Good luck, be sure to come back and rub it in our face when you make it . :okthumb:

face?

I'll take ass if face is not available
;)

JoesHO
02-12-2006, 09:55 PM
hmmmm...what kind of quality paper you intend to use for your magazine? If it soft, I might see it in my bathroom, I am Russian, I am not picky.


he has no idea , he will get to that part later, right now he is just on the news stands.

Paper and print quality will come when he ask them what the want to see.

Sin
02-12-2006, 09:57 PM
I think 1945 Mouton Rothschild will fit your personality to the T....

Going by what I read, sounds good to me. :)

Sin
02-12-2006, 09:59 PM
hmmmm...what kind of quality paper you intend to use for your magazine? If it soft, I might see it in my bathroom, I am Russian, I am not picky.

Oooh, I know the answer to that one!

"If you care to email me at __________ it is all answered within the business plan" (or a variation thereof)

Winetalk.com
02-12-2006, 10:11 PM
Oooh, I know the answer to that one!

"If you care to email me at __________ it is all answered within the business plan" (or a variation thereof)


Come think of it, he appears to be a noob webmaster collecting e-mails for join4Free proggy
;)

Biggy
02-12-2006, 10:19 PM
Yea, Ha Ha ha Im serious about what I do. You are going to see Masterpiece Magazine somewhere in some newsstand, thats my word. I know it!!!!!:okthumb:
Thank You
Saintjaq/ Owner
Masterpiece Magazine

learn some humility. Hubris will get you nowhere. And if you don't think in ANY business venture there is a chance of it failing, then it probably will.

Vick
02-13-2006, 12:06 AM
Thank you, Vick
:)

No thank you Serge ;-)

PornoDoggy
02-13-2006, 12:08 AM
I do not have a business management degree yet, but I will have one soon. I got an email the other day that promised me a degree, so I gave them my Social Security number, driver's license number, date of birth, and three credit cards (for identity verification only, of course).

That being said - in a nutshell, your idea sucks. The concept is older than the phrase "been there, done that, wore that t-shirt" by generations.

Your best opportunity to find financing is to locate a BBS for recent lottery winners. I expect to get my degree from those people before you get your financing, well put together business plan or not.

Sabby
02-13-2006, 03:50 AM
Well I would have to agree with Sin.

Although I'm sure there might be a few women out there who are so vain that they might actually pay money to show themselves naked to the world just to get a big thrill, I too think its hilarious.

Whats so special about showing all your friends how desperate you are that you had to pay to get published in a magazine?

But look at voyeurweb... they get lots of ugly girls with no heads in their shots who love to post there for free. However everyone knows that the good pics are in the MGW section (Money Grubbing Whores). LOL, okay they actually call it the GWS section (Girls with Sites).


Sabby:flash:

Sabby
02-13-2006, 07:24 AM
Perhaps you should try the Mail Order Husband market instead. It sounds about as promising.

(Unless you can add a 'millionares' section).


Sabby:flash: