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BigasMoe
01-18-2006, 09:29 PM
What do you thik is the easiest way to get into the business, not knowing anything, and make money with no money.

Who ever submits the best answer I'll set um up with a free months worth of feeds from Webmaster Central!

Winetalk.com
01-18-2006, 09:31 PM
Rob the bank.

Hell Puppy
01-18-2006, 09:34 PM
What do you thik is the easiest way to get into the business, not knowing anything, and make money with no money.

Who ever submits the best answer I'll set um up with a free months worth of feeds from Webmaster Central!

Blackmail Lens with pictures of him and a goat in your xpeeps gallery.

gonzo
01-18-2006, 09:37 PM
Blackmail Lens with pictures of him and a goat in your xpeeps gallery.

Lens fears Xpeeps.

BigasMoe
01-18-2006, 09:38 PM
Blackmail Lens with pictures of him and a goat in your xpeeps gallery.

Not a bad idea but I happen to get along with the guy but I'm open to other suggestions.

Mike AI
01-18-2006, 09:49 PM
Content. I am selling exclusive photos of Serge and Brad from drunken New Years Eve party!

Hell Puppy
01-18-2006, 09:50 PM
Content. I am selling exclusive photos of Serge and Brad from drunked New Years Eve party!

Content costs money to produce.

Unless you happen to already own the camera and can convince models to work on the Photogregg plan.

"You get paid when i get paid"

Mike AI
01-18-2006, 09:53 PM
Content costs money to produce.

Unless you happen to already own the camera and can convince models to work on the Photogregg plan.

"You get paid when i get paid"

I was refering to pose as content.

It cost me nothing to take my pants down.

Mo you can contact Sharky about the free feeds. ;)

Hell Puppy
01-18-2006, 09:55 PM
I was refering to pose as content.

It cost me nothing to take my pants down.

Mo you can contact Sharky about the free feeds. ;)

And you'll still get paid, when he gets paid...

Hell Puppy
01-18-2006, 10:03 PM
Ok, to give some halfway serious answers as this is actually a pretty interesting question....

Let's assume extortion, blackmail, robbery and anything totally illegal are off the table...

With absolutely no money or knowledge, if you're hot, female and 18, the content path works, but let's assume that's not the case either.

Obvious answer is scrape for pennies starting out with free hosting, sponsor provided content and trying to find the 3-4 places left on the net that will actually link to either. But even that requires some knowledge.

With no knowledge or money today, I think you have to indenture yourself to someone else for cheap in exchange for knowledge and perhaps a future stake. Lots of people out there with tons of content, domains, hosting, etc laying around who might look for someone enterprising who would work for nothing or next to it as kind of an intern to build it all out. And maybe give 'em a taste of the backend once it's all built and running.

Vick
01-18-2006, 10:14 PM
You can always stand on the corner and offer um ... services

JoesHO
01-18-2006, 10:49 PM
Rob the bank.


who is Rob, and what is his real last name ?

Peaches
01-18-2006, 10:50 PM
who is Rob, and what is his real last name ?
Added points for making me laugh :wnw:

BigasMoe
01-18-2006, 11:11 PM
Ok, to give some halfway serious answers as this is actually a pretty interesting question....

Let's assume extortion, blackmail, robbery and anything totally illegal are off the table...

With absolutely no money or knowledge, if you're hot, female and 18, the content path works, but let's assume that's not the case either.

Obvious answer is scrape for pennies starting out with free hosting, sponsor provided content and trying to find the 3-4 places left on the net that will actually link to either. But even that requires some knowledge.

With no knowledge or money today, I think you have to indenture yourself to someone else for cheap in exchange for knowledge and perhaps a future stake. Lots of people out there with tons of content, domains, hosting, etc laying around who might look for someone enterprising who would work for nothing or next to it as kind of an intern to build it all out. And maybe give 'em a taste of the backend once it's all built and running.


Ok, now it seems like Hell Puppy chose to step up first! I like how you generalized things.:okthumb:

nastyboy
01-18-2006, 11:19 PM
What do you thik is the easiest way to get into the business, not knowing anything, and make money with no money.

Who ever submits the best answer I'll set um up with a free months worth of feeds from Webmaster Central!

With zero knowledge and no money there are really two options.

#1 convince someone in the industy to mentor you in exchange you'll work for free or at minimum wage until your skill level reaches a point where you are a valuable asset. = making some $$ albiet minimal while gining knowledge and skills.

#2 spend your time mastering some of the webmaster resources available and then influence someone else to put up the capital.

BigasMoe
01-18-2006, 11:28 PM
You can always stand on the corner and offer um ... services

Yeah your right but those days are over for me. I'm throwing this question out here because I wanted to see how many intelligent answers I could get. Plus it's not a bad thread

BigasMoe
01-18-2006, 11:50 PM
With zero knowledge and no money there are really two options.

#1 convince someone in the industy to mentor you in exchange you'll work for free or at minimum wage until your skill level reaches a point where you are a valuable asset. = making some $$ albiet minimal while gining knowledge and skills.

#2 spend your time mastering some of the webmaster resources available and then influence someone else to put up the capital.

Hey NastyBoy those are some good options and your inpu tis appreciated. Great steps towards that free month as well.:okthumb:

nastyboy
01-18-2006, 11:57 PM
Hey NastyBoy those are some good options and your inpu tis appreciated. Great steps towards that free month as well.:okthumb:

NP BigasMoe! I would have gone a little more in depth but short on time tonight :comp:

BigasMoe
01-19-2006, 12:38 AM
Thanks for taking the time !

CuriousToyBoy
01-19-2006, 12:43 AM
Moe,

Hit me up ya big palooka !!!

You ain't answering your icq !!

Need to follow up on our late night pow-wow on feeds and other stuff !!!

If you want to have a chat either shoot me an email back to toyboy@curiouscash.com or ICQ #293070684, gmmtoyboy@hotmail.com on MSN, GMM Toy Boy on AOL or GMMtoyboy on Yahoo.

Don't be making hunt your big ass down now !!!

Lindsay

:whistling :yowsa: :rolleyes: :waving:

Winetalk.com
01-19-2006, 05:51 AM
You can always stand on the corner and offer um ... services


Let's combine yours and mine:


You can always stand on the BANK corner and offer um ... services

Winetalk.com
01-19-2006, 05:55 AM
Content. I am selling exclusive photos of Serge and Brad from drunken New Years Eve party!

who the hell wants the pic of nekkid Brad????

NickPapageorgio
01-19-2006, 11:12 AM
Sucking cock. No matter how dog ugly you are, if you are willing to take 12 inches of man root down your throat and then gurgle the cum afterwards, you'll make money. There is a niche for you somewhere on teh inTeRw3bz!!!!!!!!11

sarettah
01-19-2006, 11:16 AM
Sucking cock. No matter how dog ugly you are, if you are willing to take 12 inches of man root down your throat and then gurgle the cum afterwards, you'll make money. There is a niche for you somewhere on teh inTeRw3bz!!!!!!!!11


Damn, I can remember the days when you were such a nice respectable polite kid........


Whee did we go right ? :yowsa:

Peaches
01-19-2006, 12:01 PM
Sucking cock. No matter how dog ugly you are, if you are willing to take 12 inches of man root down your throat and then gurgle the cum afterwards, you'll make money. There is a niche for you somewhere on teh inTeRw3bz!!!!!!!!11
Seriously?! Sign me up - these months of making negative cash flow are starting to affect my bank account :(

TheEnforcer
01-19-2006, 12:19 PM
Pretty much the way it's always been done. Surf the webmaster boards and resource sites. Oprano and AllOfEm come to minfd there :) and try and glean as much knowledge as possible about where to submit and what not. In the meantime use sponsor content and build a bunch of TGP galleries and double them up and use those pages to also build free sites at the same time. Once you've got a little money coming in then sink some or all of it back in to getting non sponsor content and rinse and repeat.

BigasMoe
01-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Moe,

Hit me up ya big palooka !!!

You ain't answering your icq !!

Need to follow up on our late night pow-wow on feeds and other stuff !!!

If you want to have a chat either shoot me an email back to toyboy@curiouscash.com or ICQ #293070684, gmmtoyboy@hotmail.com on MSN, GMM Toy Boy on AOL or GMMtoyboy on Yahoo.

Don't be making hunt your big ass down now !!!

Lindsay

:whistling :yowsa: :rolleyes: :waving:

I think it's a 12hr difference between us but I'll get ahold of you for sure
:waving:

BigasMoe
01-19-2006, 04:36 PM
Sucking cock. No matter how dog ugly you are, if you are willing to take 12 inches of man root down your throat and then gurgle the cum afterwards, you'll make money. There is a niche for you somewhere on teh inTeRw3bz!!!!!!!!11

Thanks Nick I'll keep that in mind and I'll pass it on, but that wont get you any closer to the content deal.:clapping:

BigasMoe
01-19-2006, 04:42 PM
Pretty much the way it's always been done. Surf the webmaster boards and resource sites. Oprano and AllOfEm come to minfd there :) and try and glean as much knowledge as possible about where to submit and what not. In the meantime use sponsor content and build a bunch of TGP galleries and double them up and use those pages to also build free sites at the same time. Once you've got a little money coming in then sink some or all of it back in to getting non sponsor content and rinse and repeat.

Thanks for adding some input enforcer, your all so in the running for the content!:okthumb:

JR
01-19-2006, 04:51 PM
What do you thik is the easiest way to get into the business, not knowing anything, and make money with no money.

Who ever submits the best answer I'll set um up with a free months worth of feeds from Webmaster Central!

easiest way to get into the biz without knowing anything and no money?

become content.

JoesHO
01-19-2006, 04:57 PM
Seriously, the best thing to do is learn about self traffic generation first and foremost. ( content is cheap now days 0 ultimatly you will need some content of your own, but that is semi expensive to produce to start out with .

Just start with a blog network, A www.remotethumbs.com tgp network of your own, and some free sites you can get listed on linklist and such. submitt some of your own made gallerys ( not the FHG's )

and work on traffic development first.

WHATEVER YOU DO , DO NOT BUY SHIT TRAFFIC AS FEEDER TRAFFIC IT SUCKS! you are better off using that money to build and own more domains to do trades and link to and other SEO tricks. as was mentioned read YNOT, and green Guy and jim, and Netpond for their great newbie resourcses on how to start things cheap, they hacve some terrific advice offered out already, you will just need to read it and put it into practise .

once you get past that ( 6- 8 mos ) then there is more stuff but it starts to cost money then, so the KEY is build your own traffic first as cheap as possible .

BigasMoe
01-19-2006, 05:41 PM
Seriously, the best thing to do is learn about self traffic generation first and foremost. ( content is cheap now days 0 ultimatly you will need some content of your own, but that is semi expensive to produce to start out with .

Just start with a blog network, A www.remotethumbs.com (http://www.remotethumbs.com/) tgp network of your own, and some free sites you can get listed on linklist and such. submitt some of your own made gallerys ( not the FHG's )

and work on traffic development first.

WHATEVER YOU DO , DO NOT BUY SHIT TRAFFIC AS FEEDER TRAFFIC IT SUCKS! you are better off using that money to build and own more domains to do trades and link to and other SEO tricks. as was mentioned read YNOT, and green Guy and jim, and Netpond for their great newbie resourcses on how to start things cheap, they hacve some terrific advice offered out already, you will just need to read it and put it into practise .

once you get past that ( 6- 8 mos ) then there is more stuff but it starts to cost money then, so the KEY is build your own traffic first as cheap as possible .

Precisely put JoesHO1, and I'm glad you decided to grace us with your input.:wnw: Oh and you don't qualify for the content deal:finger011

Dianna Vesta
01-19-2006, 06:31 PM
Get free hosting somewhere.

Sign up to programs that pay well and give you free content.

Work your ass off posting in forums for that niche and uploading galleries.

Make money promoting programs.

I'm sure this is how many got started. Moonlighting after their Burger King jobs. It ain't mega bucks but lets face it, it's more then what you started with.

JoesHO
01-19-2006, 07:25 PM
Precisely put JoesHO1, and I'm glad you decided to grace us with your input.:wnw: Oh and you don't qualify for the content deal:finger011


rainman at your service.

BigasMoe
01-20-2006, 05:05 AM
Get free hosting somewhere.

Sign up to programs that pay well and give you free content.

Work your ass off posting in forums for that niche and uploading galleries.

Make money promoting programs.

I'm sure this is how many got started. Moonlighting after their Burger King jobs. It ain't mega bucks but lets face it, it's more then what you started with.

I was wondering when someone was gonna touch on that, I appreciate you touching on that aspect sicne it is proven along with the others mentioned.
:rolleyes:

Vick
01-20-2006, 07:24 AM
Promote yourself

Gone are the days when pissing on webhamster boards could make you a millionaire but

Porn is a secondary product, you are the primary product. Bone up (pun intended) on the business, open site with a product to sell (even if you're resellling a product) open a affiliate program and make a splash in as many places as possible,

piss, talk, pout, shout to become a intelligent, respectable Internet personality overnight and market your affiliate program the whole time

You're not selling your product to webhamsters, you're promoting yourself to affiliates

Dianna Vesta
01-20-2006, 07:48 AM
Promote yourself

Gone are the days when pissing on webhamster boards could make you a millionaire but

Porn is a secondary product, you are the primary product. Bone up (pun intended) on the business, open site with a product to sell (even if you're resellling a product) open a affiliate program and make a splash in as many places as possible,

piss, talk, pout, shout to become a intelligent, respectable Internet personality overnight and market your affiliate program the whole time

You're not selling your product to webhamsters, you're promoting yourself to affiliates


I don't enterly agree with this. I understand how the porn network works and the benefits of being "known". Maybe it works in cases where you're all selling the same shit in a different package.

The quality of product is the key to success. You might be able to herd them in, sign them up for a few bucks but they are not going to stay. Plain and simple.

So lets take a "wanna be" porn lord with no damn money. He comes to the boards, gets his ass ripped a few times and makes an ass of himself. All he has is himself because he has nothing and in order get anything he's going to have to work his ass off.

Now take a "wanna be" porn lord with an outstanding product. People are going to be all over his shit. He can be the biggest idiot on the planet but if he's able to get his HOT ASS PRODUCT out there and surfers are hungry for it, no one will fucking care. In fact he'll become idiot famous.

I'm turning my sites into free community sites and loaded with upsells. In the last few years I make more money doing that anyhow. BUT if I was still actively focused on the game I would be hunting down who had the best product out there that would appeal to my surfers. The problem is that my sites are niche fetish/bdsm. Try as they may few content companies and programs offer, what I would consider, quality fetish bdsm.

nastyboy
01-23-2006, 05:16 AM
The problem is that my sites are niche fetish/bdsm. Try as they may few content companies and programs offer, what I would consider, quality fetish bdsm.

Give us a month...I think I'll have something you'll like ;)

BigasMoe
01-24-2006, 12:54 PM
Promote yourself

Gone are the days when pissing on webhamster boards could make you a millionaire but

Porn is a secondary product, you are the primary product. Bone up (pun intended) on the business, open site with a product to sell (even if you're resellling a product) open a affiliate program and make a splash in as many places as possible,

piss, talk, pout, shout to become a intelligent, respectable Internet personality overnight and market your affiliate program the whole time

You're not selling your product to webhamsters, you're promoting yourself to affiliates

Vick I really think your in the top running for the content!

gonzo
01-24-2006, 01:00 PM
Give us a month...I think I'll have something you'll like ;)

I liked that outfit she was wearing in your suite!

SirenaRose
01-24-2006, 01:15 PM
Well, I'll jump in. I just started in November as far as being a camgirl/webmaster/amateursite girl...I'd been doing some shoots on places like voyeurweb, etc, so I already had content. I didn't have a working knowledge of having an "adult site" though I did have webmaster knowledge. I had no clue what a TGP or anything like that was...

So I started by networking on the sites that I was posting at for free and not making any money off of. When people would leave me a response, I'd email them and start a conversation with them. After an email or two, I'd ask them if they wanted to join my yahoo group that I had set up and invite them to that. I also would go on to free webcamming sites like jmeeting and put up a link to my yahoo group or blog to entice people to see the pictures that I had up. This was a great way for me to build up a mailing list. I had over 750 members when I was finally working up to making my own site.

The next step was to get a domain and a host. Due to some privacy problems, I knew I had to change my name (since I was actually going by my REAL name...and with some family members on a hunt for anything discriminating, I couldn't risk it). So I held a contest for members of my yahoo group. I finally got the votes all in and calculated and bought the domain from godaddy.com. That was the first amount of money I invested -- 12.95 I think for the domain & the privacy protection.

I also signed up for a free host - host.camz.com. I knew that I would be able to get free hosting, as well as camz shows so that I could a) make money off of the private shows and b) create exposure doing the hour shows. One week of doing camz shows paid for my camera and extra lighting etc...I was able to get a bunch more content shot and get the site up and running.

I then looked around for affiliates..whether it be other girls with sites or stores that sold adult toys or lingerie. I haven't yet put these pages of my site together the way that I want them to be yet - but I'm working on them.

I think the biggest thing was finding a way to source some extra funds while I was still getting my site together -- by doing private shows on a webcamming network. Unfortunatly, due to some meddling people in my life, I had to close down my yahoo group before I could announce the name of my new site & such...but I'm following the same plan of attack and doing the shows on camz, jmeeting and posting new photos on my site every week (except last due to illness! LOL)

Anyway, that's how I did it...I'm sure there are other ways out there, but I just stuck to my guns and put together what I think is a pretty good site... :)