Programmer for hire! :)

[Adult SEO]

Programmer for Hire!

Hi!

I am looking for work!

I am available to work 19 hours per day, 7 days per week for just 100 euro per day!

So if you're looking for someone to build an Traffic Trade script or anything else in PHP, contact me!

Best Regards,
Adult SEO
http://www.adultseo.net/ (http://www.adultseo.net/)
contact@adultseo.net (contact@adultseo.net)

[sarettah]

:huh:

100 euros = $122. US or a little over $6.00 an hour.

Man, you might get some programming gigs but you are hurting yourself more than you know when it comes to trying to get an actual living wage from your skills.. :(

[Adult SEO]

$10 per hour is standard for freelance programming services, we simply deliver a little extra to get the projects ;)

[sarettah]

$10 per hour is standard for freelance programming services, we simply deliver a little extra to get the projects ;)


Thats poverty level wages dude. And it is a lot harder to raise your prices later if you establish such a low base.

I get around $50 an hour for programming at my day job, they bill me out at $100 for programming, $150 for system design and higher than that for database design.

When I do quotes I show the price computed at $50 an hour or higher. A client can always work with me and we can arrive at a lower price, but that way they know what kind of discount they are getting and it allows me to not lower the price when I don't want to do the project.

Bottom line is it keeps my base at $50 an hour.

And like I say it is a lot easier to lower your price for an individual project if yur base is established then it is to raise your price overall from a base to is way too low.

[Adult SEO]

Hi!

Thanks for your reply.

My experience as a webmaster is that the prices for programming services are aprox. $10 per hour.

Programmers from russia deliver super fast and optimum results for just $10 per hour.

Since we value the knowledge obtained with (adult webmaster) projects aswell we provide programming services at the highest level of advance and speed for just $100 per 19 hour day or $10 per hour.

Best Regards,
Adult SEO

[sarettah]

My experience as a webmaster is that the prices for programming services are aprox. $10 per hour.

Programmers from russia deliver super fast and optimum results for just $10 per hour.


My experience in life is that you get what you pay for. :yowsa:

[Adult SEO]

The best ;)

[sarettah]

The best ;)

Bullshit. I don't work for you :okthumb:









:yowsa:

[Newton]

Damn that's cheap ..

[venturi]

My experience as a webmaster is that the prices for programming services are aprox. $10 per hour.
No offense, but in my long experience (almost two decades as a programmer) online and offline, anyone claiming that $10/hr is the "standard" or "accepted" rate for programming, frankly just doesn't have much experience. Best of luck to you none the less.

[sarettah]

No offense, but in my long experience (almost two decades as a programmer) online and offline, anyone claiming that $10/hr is the "standard" or "accepted" rate for programming, frankly just doesn't have much experience. Best of luck to you none the less.


When I first put myself out for freelance programming, I was doing it strictly part time and I put myself out there at $10.00 an hour...

I usually managed to get 50 hours in every two weeks so the $1000 a month EXTRA income helped a lot.











Of course, that was back in 1982 :okthumb:

[Beran]

$10 per hour is standard for freelance programming services, we simply deliver a little extra to get the projects ;)

I dont post very often here, but I got an email about this thread.

I've seen and heard of several coders disappearing because they discounted their prices as deep as this just to get some money coming in.

I hope you get all the 10.00 an hour work you can handle. The sooner you drop out or raise your pricing where it should be the better!

You'll work 19 hours a day until your sick of it. Then you'll take any 30,000.00 a year job just so you can go back to 40-50 hours a week.

I'm reminded of a poem:

We the willing,
led by the unknowing,
have done so much,
for so long,
with so little,
we are now qualified
to do anything
with nothing.

10.00 an hour? Are you nuts?

Good luck......

[PornoDoggy]

You can make $10 an hour on the web???

[sarettah]

I dont post very often here, but I got an email about this thread.

You'll work 19 hours a day until your sick of it. Then you'll take any 30,000.00 a year job just so you can go back to 40-50 hours a week.


Hey Beran :) Good to see you, long time man ....

The thing is though, that he actually won't work 19 hours a day. He started this same thread over at the zoo and someone asked him about sleeping and he answered that he sleeps approximately 5 hours.

Now, realistically, if you say you are working 19 hours a day - 7 days a week - and sleeping the other 5 hours a day, then when are you going to:

1. Use the bathroom
2. Shower
3. Eat
4. Do mailing of the bills and such
5. Post your 19 hour a day/ $10 an hour spam on the boards
6. See the girlfriend/wife/kids etc
7. Have a life

and the myriad other NORMAL things that occur in a day ?

So, what he is saying is that I will tell you I am working 19 hours a day for the $6.00 an hour, but I will actually work a max of 8 or 10 hours a day on your project and that is only if I don't take on other projects in which case I will tell everyone that I am exclusive to them for the 19 hours a day and I will double dip the hell out of everything. :unsure:

[MorganGrayson]

And like I say it is a lot easier to lower your price for an individual project if yur base is established then it is to raise your price overall from a base to is way too low.

You've received some great advice in this thread, Adult SEO, and I hope you seriously considered it. I wanted to highlight this comment of sarettah's, because it is very true. You can *always* lower your base price for a particular job. It's very, very difficult to raise it. If you give someone a quote and they balk...negotiate. But always negotiate from a position of strength. Don't think of yourself as competing with cheaper programmers. Think of the position you want to be in: competing with known, successful programmers who charge more per hour because the companies they work for know that they're worth it.

Good luck to you. :)

[el pres]

Sorry but speaking from experience of living in the Netherlands
40% tax rate, sales tax at 19% to Non EU countries, mandatory Health Insurance and the cost of living. You cannot work for those prices.

[sarettah]

Sorry but speaking from experience of living in the Netherlands
40% tax rate, sales tax at 19% to Non EU countries, mandatory Health Insurance and the cost of living. You cannot work for those prices.


What's the mandatory health insurance cost you guys ?

[gonzo]

What's the mandatory health insurance cost you guys ?

2 more week!!!

[sarettah]

2 more week!!!


No no no...

It's not two MORE weeks, it is always just "two weeks" :okthumb:

Client: Ok how long do you think it will take you to write the internet

Programmer: Probably about two weeks

(Two weeks later)

Client: Is it done ?

Programmer: Like I told you last time it will take two weeks

[Dravyk]

Beran, I would strongly suggest that as your fingers work enough to post, that replying to my many outstanding emails and phone messages would be a very prudent thing for you to do ... before I really get pissed off.

http://oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/smile.gif

In case he doesn't see this, please, anyone, feel free to pass it on to him. Thanks.

[el pres]

What's the mandatory health insurance cost you guys ?



In Holland it was around $150 a month if you earned over $25K, around $40 if you didn't..

But that pays for all medication, doctors, dentists the lot, A pretty good system.

In Spain, it's linked in with pension contributions and unemployment benefits,
so its around $160 a month, but you pay for medication and dentists.