Serge's POTD 9/27/05 Expose yourself to art!

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children too!

http://aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0509/24/NYHETER-24s25-PORRSTOR-855_368.jpg

[MorganGrayson]

:o

[Trev]

Sorry, but I find this disturbing.


Maybe that's what the picture taker wanted. It's still wrong imho!

[Winetalk.com]

Sorry, but I find this disturbing.


Maybe that's what the picture taker wanted. It's still wrong imho!

you right, she hasn't raised her children well.

[Trev]

you right, she hasn't raised her children well.
She doesn't look like she was raised very well either, that's a distressed look on her face as well.

[Winetalk.com]

Roman, Greek children wouldn't have this kind of reaction and neither would their parents

http://nocomments.com/2/sicily/images/naples1a.jpg

[Trev]

Roman, Greek children wouldn't have this kind of reaction and neither would their parents


They also raped and killed the young without penalty in most cases, not a good example.

[MorganGrayson]

I'm afraid if I'd gone in expecting to see "paintings" and ran into this, there would have been hell to pay.

Nice sculpture, Serge. I'm afraid not a lot of Americans even know what a Satyr is anymore. :(

[Winetalk.com]

They also raped and killed the young without penalty in most cases, not a good example.

..and didn't teach their youngs about the blow jobs in the local Oval Offices.

Bad, bad Romans!

[ReighlynnRaine]

I'm afraid if I'd gone in expecting to see "paintings" and ran into this, there would have been hell to pay.

Nice sculpture, Serge. I'm afraid not a lot of Americans even know what a Satyr is anymore. :(

I do!

I was just commenting to my husband and sister that we should get something like that sculpture for the front lawn. Appearently I am alone in thinking this. :hmm:

[Trev]

..and didn't teach their youngs about the blow jobs in the local Oval Offices.

Bad, bad Romans!
Ahh, you've gone all American on me there, that's when I stop giving a shit. ;)

[Winetalk.com]

I'm afraid if I'd gone in expecting to see "paintings" and ran into this, there would have been hell to pay.



Please elaborate....here you are, with 2 kids in the museum and run into this painting.

Now...please describe in the greta details your definition of "hell to pay"

[Winetalk.com]

I do!

I was just commenting to my husband and sister that we should get something like that sculpture for the front lawn. Appearently I am alone in thinking this. :hmm:


you are not...after Al Goldstein declared bancrupcy,
I was seeking him to buy his famous finger statue for my lawn
:)

[ReighlynnRaine]

you are not...after Al Goldstein declared bancrupcy,
I was seeking him to buy his famous finger statue for my lawn
:)

We should be neighbors!! The block parties would be awesome!!

[Winetalk.com]

We should be neighbors!! The block parties would be awesome!!

I doubt very much you wanna be my neighbor...the last time we went to Xmass midnight Mass we were wearing nothing, not even the fig leaves and realised that in the middle of the block.

We never attempted to go to Mass again
:)

[Nickatilynx]

My bastard kids would probably giggle and then one would explain to my wife

"Thats sorta what I saw Dad doing with the nanny....."

;-))))

[Nickatilynx]

In all seriousness...

the kids are obviously shocked.In order to be shocked they need to have some knowledge of the content.

Why is their knowledge limited?
And why is what knowledge they have leading them to feel shocked.

[selena]

In all seriousness...

the kids are obviously shocked.In order to be shocked they need to have some knowledge of the content.

Why is their knowledge limited?
And why is what knowledge they have leading them to feel shocked.

Hell, my knowledge is limited too. I'm not even sure what it is. The tonguing part I can figure out, but is that something protruding from an ass?

[Nickatilynx]

Hell, my knowledge is limited too. I'm not even sure what it is. The tonguing part I can figure out, but is that something protruding from an ass?


LOL

I must say I'd have checked out the art gallery prior to bringing the kids

[selena]

LOL

I must say I'd have checked out the art gallery prior to bringing the kids


Might have been a good idea. ;)

In all seriousness, I have never been to an art museum. I live in Nowhereville. But I would hope that exhibits like that aren't in the general section.

[JR]

forgive me for being rational, but what evidence is there in the pic, that they are reacting to the painting in the background?

[ReighlynnRaine]

I doubt very much you wanna be my neighbor...the last time we went to Xmass midnight Mass we were wearing nothing, not even the fig leaves and realised that in the middle of the block.

We never attempted to go to Mass again
:)

:o

[ReighlynnRaine]

My bastard kids would probably giggle and then one would explain to my wife

"Thats sorta what I saw Dad doing with the nanny....."

;-))))

:blink:

[JoesHO]

damn does that dude fucking the goat look like brandon or what ?

[Winetalk.com]

forgive me for being rational, but what evidence is there in the pic, that they are reacting to the painting in the background?

exactly!

I say they just heard the news on the radio about the hurricanes...

[Winetalk.com]

Might have been a good idea. ;)

In all seriousness, I have never been to an art museum. I live in Nowhereville. But I would hope that exhibits like that aren't in the general section.


oh yes they are...

Saturn devourishing his children
http://www.spanisharts.com/prado/goya/saturno.htm
this one would put the fear of God and parents in the little buggers more than some cock sticking out of the ass.

[Newton]

I like that one of Saturn

[Winetalk.com]

I like that one of Saturn

me too...I wish I did the same with my children
:)

[Almighty Colin]

Nice sculpture, Serge. I'm afraid not a lot of Americans even know what a Satyr is anymore. :(

Oh, come on. We have "Family Guy".

;-) ;-) ;-) <- Note winks

[selena]

oh yes they are...

Saturn devourishing his children
http://www.spanisharts.com/prado/goya/saturno.htm
this one would put the fear of God and parents in the little buggers more than some cock sticking out of the ass.


They are in the general section? Did I understand you right?

[Winetalk.com]

They are in the general section? Did I understand you right?


Yes, they are....but, it's a very small Museum in Madrid called Prado and the painter is only known to a few geeks,
his name is Goya.

Here is another paiting in that museum,
http://www.spanisharts.com/prado/rubens/gracias.htm
from barely known artist Rubens

Selena, stay away from museums and especialy shield children from them.

[selena]

Yes, they are....but, it's a very small Museum in Madrid called Prado and the painter is only known to a few geeks,
his name is Goya.

Here is another paiting in that museum,
http://www.spanisharts.com/prado/rubens/gracias.htm
from barely known artist Rubens

Selena, stay away from museums and especialy shield children from them.


Actually, I see a big difference in the work of the "little known" Rubens and a painting showing a sexual act being in a general area of a museum. That's me.

Oh, and even in Nowheresville we've heard of Goya. They reproduce his works on the side of their 4 x 4's that they go muddin' in.

[Winetalk.com]

Actually, I see a big difference in the work of the "little known" Rubens and a painting showing a sexual act being in a general area of a museum. That's me.

.


exactly,
I always told my children that no sexual act was involved in their birth. I also told them that their mother was a virgin and this is what I expected from them forever.

[Winetalk.com]

another one from general area in Naples Archeological Museum.

http://nocomments.com/2/sicily/imagepages/image51.html

Lots of Italian males claim to be the decendants of this guy.

[selena]

exactly,
I always told my children that no sexual act was involved in their birth. I also told them that their mother was a virgin and this is what I expected from them forever.


If that were thrue, then that would have been your choice, wouldn't it? I'm all about parents having choices. Which is why I didn't think the original pic posted here made the woman (who we assume to be the mother) look bad. If the scenario is that they unwittingly came across the painting of a tongued pussy in a general museum, then the choice was removed for her.

If she chose to take them to an exhibit of sexually explict art, then perhaps the children were expressing awe at the size of the dildo or whatever it is crammed up the ass.

[Winetalk.com]

If that were thrue, then that would have been your choice, wouldn't it? I'm all about parents having choices. .

I am pro-choice big time and I beleive it's parents choice to keep their children ignorant and the Smallville Board of Education pronounce Romeo and Juliet as pornography.

[Newton]

Some great pics .. :okthumb:

[DrGuile]

just FYI, there's no "general" and "adult" section in a Museum.... it's not a Blockbuster...

That first painting is crap, not because it's shocking, but simply because it's not very good (personal opinion). Compare it to the others Serge posted, and there's a world of difference...

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http://borgman.enquirer.com/img/toons/pulitzermapplethorpe.jpg

[MorganGrayson]

Please elaborate....here you are, with 2 kids in the museum and run into this painting.

Now...please describe in the greta details your definition of "hell to pay"

OK...first of all, several things need to be assumed:
One...I'm taking children of that age.
Two...I've checked out the museum ahead of time, received a catalogue, and in general satisfied myself that the paintings are such that we can stand in front of them and either appreciate the art or begin a dialogue.
Note: I did not censor my children's exposure to the world. My kids (and hence every one of their friends) all got honest answers to honest questions.) The middle school art department was given a budget that covered pencils. The teacher spent all summer cutting paintings out of magazines and buying postcards so she'd have something to teach with. On my kid's birthdays, I continued a tradition started in elementary school, which is on their birthday, they gave a book to the library. My youngest gave her art teacher a massive art book - the only damned one the teacher had. We went through it, nudes and all.
Three...what does "hell to pay" mean? With me, yelling. I'm not the censorship type. I take responsibility for what I do. *I* brought my kids there. I doubt any of us would have collapsed in shock in front of that painting. We would have discussed it, how art is subjective, and how acts that might be perfectly natural and quite fun look pretty stupid when they're frozen in time like that. I wouldn't sue; I wouldn't picket; I'd probably just use a lot of rough talk at the curator while my children muttered "oh, for heaven's sake, Mom!"

Now, if I was taking these same children when they were older...I'd be the one standing off to the side muttering "I do NOT know these people" as they critiqued the painting and made better suggestions in voices that rang off the museum walls.

[Winetalk.com]

OK...first of all, several things need to be assumed:
One...I'm taking children of that age.
Two...I've checked out the museum ahead of time, received a catalogue, and in general satisfied myself that the paintings are such that we can stand in front of them and either appreciate the art or begin a dialogue.

interesting...
Now, for the record:
how many times have you been to the art museums?
Where? How often each? Have you ever actualy DONE what you are preaching?

[MorganGrayson]

interesting...
Now, for the record:
how many times have you been to the art museums?
Where? How often each? Have you ever actualy DONE what you are preaching?

I don't "go places," Serge, for some very good reasons, so we'll pretend you didn't ask me that.

And as for the rest...yes, I have. I've had every possible discussion about sex that it's possible to have with every age of child. Art, television, movies...and most of all, real life.

I don't know exactly what the hell you're trying to get started here, Serge, but you might want to remeber I learned to piss from YOU before you start anything.

Have a nice day. :)

[Nickatilynx]

They are valid questions....

Which art galleries have you gone to?
When and where?

:)


:corn:

[MorganGrayson]

You two gentlemen seem to be laboring under the mistaken impression that my personal life is an open book for anyone to take potshots at. *I* choose what I will and will not discuss on this board.

In the meantine, I cheerfully suggest the two of you go fuck each other.

[Nickatilynx]

You two gentlemen seem to be laboring under the mistaken impression that my personal life is an open book for anyone to take potshots at. *I* choose what I will and will not discuss on this board.

In the meantine, I cheerfully suggest the two of you go fuck each other.

so in other words , having asked your credentials , you are unable to site any art galleries that you've ACTUALLY been to?

I fail to see that saying "in the late 80s I went to the Guggenheim " is in anyway prying over your personal life.

Certainly less prying than some of the above info in the posts you volenteered...LOL

;-)))

[DrGuile]

They are valid questions....

Which art galleries have you gone to?
When and where?

:)


:corn:

lol, all of the museums in the Province of Quebec almost...
Most of the museums in Ottawa
the MET in NYC twice, some private collection in NYC too
Louvre in Paris twice
Domaine de Sceau' gallery near paris
One gallery in Amsterdam
alot of churches too that had some nice pieces...

[Nickatilynx]

lol, all of the museums in the Province of Quebec almost...
Most of the museums in Ottawa
the MET in NYC twice, some private collection in NYC too
Louvre in Paris twice
Domaine de Sceau' gallery near paris
One gallery in Amsterdam
alot of churches too that had some nice pieces...

I fucking know YOU have!!! Smart ass fucking Frenchy!!!

Now phone that gallery will ya and get the "frenchy" price on that acrylic :)

[Winetalk.com]

You two gentlemen seem to be laboring under the mistaken impression that my personal life is an open book for anyone to take potshots at. *I* choose what I will and will not discuss on this board.

In the meantine, I cheerfully suggest the two of you go fuck each other.


Nick,
we got her.
For the record:
Morgan has made a statement she can't substantiate whatsoever.

...and it wasn't the use of "fuck" what gave it away
:)

Sorry, Morgan, "THINK" before you hit SUBMIT the next time
;)

I do, and if you proclaim to be my prodigy, so should you!
:)

[Winetalk.com]

lol, all of the museums in the Province of Quebec almost...
Most of the museums in Ottawa
the MET in NYC twice, some private collection in NYC too
Louvre in Paris twice
Domaine de Sceau' gallery near paris
One gallery in Amsterdam
alot of churches too that had some nice pieces...

When did you legally change your name to Morgan?
:)

[Nickatilynx]

Nick,
we got her.
For the record:
Morgan has made a statement she can't substantiate whatsoever.

...and it wasn't the use of "fuck" what gave it away
:)

Sorry, Morgan, "THINK" before you hit SUBMIT the next time
;)

I do, and if you proclaim to be my prodigy, so should you!
:)

Indeed....:)

However...

"""The quality of mercy is not strained; It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven Upon the place beneath. It is twice blessed- It blesseth him that gives, and him that takes.""

;-)

[Winetalk.com]

ok, ok, I'll play with Selene instead
;)

[Nickatilynx]

ok, ok, I'll play with Selene instead
;)

Oh!!!

Good idea!!!

Where is she at?

;-)))

[Winetalk.com]

Oh!!!

Good idea!!!

Where is she at?

;-)))


I don't know, but I suspect she has bigger boobs
;)

[DrGuile]

When did you legally change your name to Morgan?
:)


You think Im making this up?

[Winetalk.com]

no, I don't, I only suggested that you answered the question which YOU weren't asked
:)

[MorganGrayson]

OK...as has been pointed out to me, I got a bug up my ass, which caused some very personal reactions to certain things, causing me to come off like...well...we'll go with asshole here, as I'm not about to quote what I was accused of coming off as. :) (The Diction Nazi is at the Guggenheim, and unable to fix that sentence.)

The very first museum I took my children to was when they were very young. We lived in Louisville, and it was the Louisville Museum. Tiny thing, but they'd just gotten a Rembrandt, which for a small museum was a big deal indeed. Now, neither of the children were old enough to understand why Mommy and Daddy just stood in front of the Rembrandt. (They thought it was a dark, ugly painting of a guy just sitting there.) They found other things to appreciate there.

For many reasons, museums haven't been much of an option in my life. However, I have a passion for books. My library contains a great many of what are generally referred to as "coffee table" books. The kids got to see most of the world's art through books. I lean toward the impressionists, so there is a print of Van Gogh's sunflowers in the kitchen and a Renoir in the living room. They've discussed the paintings in the books with me and understand that although Van Gogh's "Corns Over the Cornfield" absolutely rivets me to the floor, I could never live with it. Too damned much emotion.

At the moment, other than a fantastic volume on the Egyptian Museum, I can't remember what else I own and I'm not getting up.

They went on to develop their own tastes in art and even to introduce me to new art.

Cable television was also fantstic for exposing the kids to art. I'd give a lot to have someone tell me the name of the scultor who puts his sculpture out in the pasture with his sheep. Those pieces particularly effected us when we saw him on television.

Why do I so easily volunteer much more personal information? Well, a very long time ago, on an adult webmaster message board, I mentioned I was agoraphobic. My inbox lit up with webmasters writing me and saying "me, too!" (It's logical if you think about it. This is the perfect job for people who stay indoors a lot.) That's why. I figure that if you've got to be totally fucked up, you might as well spread a little sunshine around if you can.

Sharing that I was afraid of heights led to a most companionable time at a convention with Mark Tiarra, when we rode the glass elevator up to the top of the hotel with our foreheads pressed against the outside glass just to prove we could do it. (Neither one of us threw up and the high we felt afterwards was incredible.)

And on and on.

[Nickatilynx]

no, I don't, I only suggested that you answered the question which YOU weren't asked
:)

ahahahahahahahhaha

Has someone been teaching you..

"How to read people , 5 moves ahead"


;-)))

[Winetalk.com]

The very first museum I took my children to was when they were very young.

Did you request catalogue a priori? Did you inspect museum a priori?
Did you actualy do what you suggested should be done?

Simple YES or NO would just suffice.

[MorganGrayson]

Did you request catalogue a priori? Did you inspect museum a priori?
Did you actualy do what you suggested should be done?

Simple YES or NO would just suffice.

You want me to write a *one word* answer????
What are you...new????? Geesh.

Yes.
Catalogue came in mail. Hence knowledge of Rembrandt's existance.

[Winetalk.com]

You want me to write a *one word* answer????
What are you...new????? Geesh.

Yes.
Catalogue came in mail. Hence knowledge of Rembrandt's existance.

ahhh, my dear Prodigy, I gave you the life line and you blew it,
ONE word answer would end it all, but , nooo, you had to go for it,
ok, so be it.

1) Did you request catalogue as you suggested or did it just come with a bulk mail?

2) was it FULL catalogue, listing ALL the paintings on the exhibit with thumbnails?

[MorganGrayson]

ahhh, my dear Prodigy, I gave you the life line and you blew it,
ONE word answer would end it all, but , nooo, you had to go for it,
ok, so be it.

1) Did you request catalogue as you suggested or did it just come with a bulk mail?

2) was it FULL catalogue, listing ALL the paintings on the exhibit with thumbnails?

Yes. I went for the humor, as is my habit.

1. No
2. Don't remember. (Honestly. This was maybe 20 years ago.)

[Winetalk.com]

ok, this si what I'll do for you...for all great times you had with me on the sex phone,
(I KNOW it was YOU!)
I'll take you to the museum of my choice and give you personal tour!

No catalogue required
:)

[MorganGrayson]

ok, this si what I'll do for you...for all great times you had with me on the sex phone,
(I KNOW it was YOU!)
I'll take you to the museum of my choice and give you personal tour!

No catalogue required
:)

Deal! :)

(Those *were* good times. I still have a phone and I daresay a skill or two has survived, as well.) :)

[selena]

I don't know, but I suspect she has bigger boobs
;)


~looks down top~

That's doubtful.

[selena]

just FYI, there's no "general" and "adult" section in a Museum.... it's not a Blockbuster...

That first painting is crap, not because it's shocking, but simply because it's not very good (personal opinion). Compare it to the others Serge posted, and there's a world of difference...

Thanks for the info re: Blockbuster. :) I seriously did not know if there were sections that were more...family friendly?...or if you had scat art next to Monet.

I've learned alot from this thread on what I should do in the future, if I'm ever going to take eensy children to a museum. I appreciate the education. :)

[Winetalk.com]

~looks down top~

That's doubtful.

No boobs??

In the best My Cousin Vinny's voice:
"I have no more use for this witness!"

:)

[selena]

No boobs??

In the best My Cousin Vinny's voice:
"I have no more use for this witness!"

:)


Boobs = yes

But you said something about bigger boobs.

And I think we'd need a comparison pics to make that determination.

The pics would have to go in the adult section of the museum, btw. ;)

[Winetalk.com]

Museums don't have adult section,
see Blockbuster reference above
;)