Log in

View Full Version : Americans can maybe learn something from Cuba.


sarettah
09-19-2005, 08:07 PM
Was watching the news last week sometime and either on the weather channel, discovery or cnn (don't remember which) they did a little feature about Cuba and hurricane preparedness. If I remember it right, they said that Cuba could effectively evacuate 2 million people in an orderly manner when needed.

I looked a bit in google for a reference, found a little editorial by someone who watched them evacuate 100,000 people rather painlessly http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20050919/1043066.asp but haven't found a good reference to this yet (but I will :)))

Anyway, I don't know if we could effectively emulate the same structure here without enacting some pretty totalatarian type policies but it would at least be worth looking at. (imho of course) :blink:

sarettah
09-19-2005, 08:12 PM
Ok, finally found a link that isn't from too "leftist" a source :yowsa:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/cuba/sfl-acuba09sep09,0,2808991.story?coll=sfla-news-cuba

Cuba's storm preparedness seen as essential to national security, economy
Posted September 9 2005

HAVANA · They have no Astrodome or cruise ships to house evacuees, and meals-ready-to-eat usually consist of rice and beans.

But Cubans have weathered some of the most violent storms the tropics can churn up, with surprisingly low death tolls and almost perfect compliance with evacuation orders.

Last year, United Nations emergency relief coordinator Jan Egeland singled out Cuba for praise among Caribbean nations for hurricane-evacuation planning. When Hurricane Ivan swiped the island last September, for example, Cuba didn't record a single death, while 115 people died in other parts of the region. The same month, Hurricane Jeanne killed more than 1,500 in Haiti, with many drowning in floodwaters.

Now, as analysts and politicians examine how the U.S. government responded to Hurricane Katrina -- and perhaps avoid a similar catastrophe in the future -- some say this communist island may have a few lessons to offer.

Cuban evacuations are mostly carried out by community groups that take their cues from the government. The military assists, but the Cuban troops are not armed.

"Cuba views hurricanes as a top national security priority… and they know the drill," said Dan Erikson, Caribbean specialist at the Inter-American Dialogue, a Washington think tank. Besides putting lives in peril, he said hurricanes represent a threat to Cuba's economic underpinnings: agriculture and tourism.

"The drill" Erikson refers to includes yearly military exercises, across the island, with two-day training sessions for emergency workers, simulated evacuations and reviews of emergency plans.

When hurricanes come barreling through, Cuba's four state-run television stations run nonstop evacuation orders and weather reports. The coverage is anchored by President Fidel Castro, who coordinates response during live broadcasts as if waging battle against an invading army.

...................................

Perhaps the most striking element of Cuba's disaster preparedness is that most residents obey evacuation orders without question. The government says it evacuated 1.5 million people ahead of Hurricane Dennis, in July. The majority joined family members in safe zones, and 245,000 flocked to state-run shelters.

This is a point of stark contrasts and debate in New Orleans, where thousands decided to ride out the storm at home and were later plucked from flooded attics, or perished. Others still refuse to leave still, even as toxic muck swamps the streets and armed forces move in this week to carry out mandatory evacuations.

"The population is very educated, and they know they are going to a secure place, and that their belongings won't be stolen [while they are gone]," said Dr. Jose Andres Cabrales, another member of the medical mission offering to travel to the United States. "They are evacuated with plenty of warning. Even cattle are evacuated."

.........................

"It's still a police state," he said. "You could say one advantage they may have is the ability to move large numbers of people in a short amount of time. But of course the political environment in Cuba makes it difficult to resist those kinds of orders."

..............................

Rubiera said Cuban shelters, however humble, are staffed with doctors, nurses and psychiatrists, and stocked with clean water, food and televisions. Buses and industrial trucks are dispatched to move families to safety.

Experts have long urged countries to focus their disaster plans on similar preparedness efforts.

"We need a change in mentality. You get a lot of headlines for foodstuffs for those who are already in disasters," said Egeland, of the United Nations, when he gave Cuba high marks for disaster planning last year. "You don't get any headlines for prevention."

Inabon
09-20-2005, 07:54 AM
ohh dude are you fucking nuts those guys don´t know how to do crap only USA knows how to evacuate. and don´t even go near miami with this article you will be hanged by your balls and whoever hangs you will get his name on a section of 8th street (calle ocho) yeah right next to celia cruz.

jajaja

justb
09-20-2005, 09:59 AM
what do they do go back and forth from one side of the island to the other as the storm passes over? ; )