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WickedTemptress
08-26-2005, 11:47 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050825/od_nm/singapore_porn_dc;_ylt=A9FJqZm9Mw5Dy2oAAQas0NUE;_y lu=X3oDMTA3NW1oMDRpBHNlYwM3NTc-

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Singapore police handcuffed and locked up a U.S. citizen for bringing 58 pornographic DVDs and video CDs into the wealthy city-state when he moved to Singapore last year, a newspaper reported Thursday.

The Straits Times said Singapore state prosecutors had dropped charges of possessing uncertified and obscene films against Tran Nghia Hong after he presented them with a declaration by his brother, stating that he was missing "certain DVDs."
The films, found by Singapore customs officers in a shipment of his belongings from California, included titles such as "Frivolous Lola," "Copulation Nation" and "Lord of the Strings."

"I was handcuffed and put in a lock-up for four hours after I was charged," the report quoted Tran, 35, as saying.

Tran, a financial controller at U.S. Internet equipment maker Cisco Systems, could have been fined up to S$500 for each disc, up to a maximum of S$20,000, or up to six months in prison, or both.

Despite efforts to loosen some of its social controls, many tough rules remain in Singapore. "Playboy" magazine is banned, while oral sex remains technically illegal under a law that says "whoever voluntarily has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman or animals" can be fined and jailed up to 10 years, or even for life.

In recent years, Singapore has partially relaxed its famous ban on chewing gum, allowed some bars to stay open for 24 hours and ended a ban on the popular U.S. sitcom "Sex and the City."

MorganGrayson
08-26-2005, 12:52 PM
...while oral sex remains technically illegal under a law that says "whoever voluntarily has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman or animals" can be fined and jailed up to 10 years, or even for life.


I want to reflect on "against the order of nature" for a moment here.
Now...a good case can be made that blowing a moose is against the order of nature. Not dating out of one's species and all that. (However, the "liger" puts a lie to the fact that dating out of one's species isn't the order of nature, as lions and tigers do it. I forget who the zebra mated with to produce its little cutie of a foal. I think I just defeated that argument, but I'm not certain.)
But...oral sex between consenting humans? Against nature?
It can't be said anymore that mating in nature is only for procreation. The higher primates blew that one (sorry) out of the water during a study somebody did somewhere. (A little vague here, my apologies.) Chimpanzees were discovered trading food for sex. (Prostitution apparently also occurs in nature, but that's another argument.)
Giving pleasure to each other seems to me to be the most natural thing in the world.

I swear, if it weren't for mountains, Beluga whales, waterfalls, and my short list of humans, I'd put in for a transfer back to my home planet.

EmporerEJ
08-26-2005, 02:58 PM
I swear, if it weren't for mountains, Beluga whales, waterfalls, and my short list of humans, I'd put in for a transfer back to my home planet.

If you got room on that ship of yours, I'll take a ticket.

sarettah
08-26-2005, 03:14 PM
All of our military live under similar laws:

Punitive Articles of the UCMJ
Article 125—Sodomy
Text.

“(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient
to complete the offense.

(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall by punished as a court-martial may direct.”

Elements.

(1) That the accused engaged in unnatural carnal copulation with a certain other person or with an animal. (Note: Add either or both of the following elements, if applicable)

(2) That the act was done with a child under the age of 16.

(3) That the act was done by force and without the consent of the other person.

Explanation.

It is unnatural carnal copulation for a person to take into that person’s mouth or anus the sexual organ of another person or of an animal; or to place that person’s sexual organ in the mouth or anus of another person or of an animal; or to have carnal copulation in any opening of the body, except the sexual parts, with another person; or to have carnal copulation with an animal.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm125.htm

MorganGrayson
08-26-2005, 04:04 PM
If you got room on that ship of yours, I'll take a ticket.

You got it.
Will you be having the standard, vegetarian, vegan or Kosher meals? :)

The in-flight movies are *great*!!! :okthumb:

MorganGrayson
08-26-2005, 04:08 PM
All of our military live under similar laws:

Punitive Articles of the UCMJ
Article 125—Sodomy
Text.

“(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient
to complete the offense.

(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall by punished as a court-martial may direct.”

Elements.

(1) That the accused engaged in unnatural carnal copulation with a certain other person or with an animal. (Note: Add either or both of the following elements, if applicable)

(2) That the act was done with a child under the age of 16.

(3) That the act was done by force and without the consent of the other person.

Explanation.

It is unnatural carnal copulation for a person to take into that person’s mouth or anus the sexual organ of another person or of an animal; or to place that person’s sexual organ in the mouth or anus of another person or of an animal; or to have carnal copulation in any opening of the body, except the sexual parts, with another person; or to have carnal copulation with an animal.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm125.htm

So. According to the US Military....happy consenting adults = ch*ld m*l*st*ng = r*p* = b**st*l*ty.

For the purposes of the above, the "y" is a consonant.

*sigh*
It probably set off some pervert's tracker anyway.

sarettah
08-26-2005, 04:13 PM
So. According to the US Military....happy consenting adults = ch*ld m*l*st*ng = r*p* = b**st*l*ty.

For the purposes of the above, the "y" is a consonant.

*sigh*
It probably set off some pervert's tracker anyway.

Interesting to note though (as I read the regs) that ass fucking would be sodomy where ass fisting would not :blink:

MorganGrayson
08-26-2005, 04:18 PM
Interesting to note though (as I read the regs) that ass fucking would be sodomy where ass fisting would not :blink:

This is true.
Neither would the use of dildoes, dongs or wine bottles.
I wonder how they missed that? :blink:

Newton
08-26-2005, 04:29 PM
no mention of bukkake either