There is no hope for some people

[PornoDoggy]

Auburn University Theatre Banner Causing Controversy
June 15, 2005, 10:00 PM

One word is turning a lot of heads and drawing much controversy. "I think it is dramatic," says Joseph Ansell, Interim Dean for Auburn University's Department of Liberal Arts.

The theatre department is promoting "The best little whorehouse in Texas" by hanging a banner on the theatre. It reads "Whorehouse coming fall 2005." Ansell says, "Given where we are and the fact there is a lack of support for the arts in the region and certainly on this campus, getting people to pay attention is important."

People are paying attention, but it's not flying over well with some. "Ii am not real thrilled with the sign," says Paul Przyborski's.

Przyborski's grandson is one of hundreds of high school students attending camp at Auburn. Whorehouse is not a word he's ready two define for his grandson. He says, "At some time in his life he will need to be exposed to it, but it is not something you would expect to find on a sunny summer afternoon here at Auburn University."

The Theatre Department says the sign is staying put. It adds the sign doing exactly what the Theatre Department wanted it to, getting attention. "It's not a curse word, it's not insulting a specific individual," says Ansell.

Auburn University Theatre's production of the Tony Award winning play starts September 27.

There is definitely no hoe for grandpa ... and if the fucking kid doesn't know what a whorehouse is by now, there's no hope for him either.

[Newton]

Good luck to them and I hope they earn lots of cash ;)

[Lee]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jun 17 2005, 08:56 PM
There is definitely no hoe for grandpa
Hahaha please tell me that typo wasnt deliberate LOL

[OldJeff]

Whorehouse is not a word he's ready two define for his grandson.


So - this is being defined twice ? - looks like the reporter has little hope as well

[Inabon]

fucking religious holier than thou fuckers.

so he has his grandson unaware of shit that when he goes to college he won´t be able to handle.


its like a little dog on chain let him loose he goes nuts.

[Almighty Colin]

"i am not real thrilled with the sign". Some controversy!

Funny find, PD

[Mike AI]

People should be able to raise their children the way they want. That is the American way.

PD if some liberal like you wanted to teach your young children what a ho is, and what a butt plug is, and the subtleties of anal sex - I am sure you would be the first to fight for his "Constitutional" right to do that.

Why not allow some parent to do the opposite??

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jun 18 2005, 08:35 AM
People should be able to raise their children the way they want. That is the American way.

PD if some liberal like you wanted to teach your young children what a ho is, and what a butt plug is, and the subtleties of anal sex - I am sure you would be the first to fight for his "Constitutional" right to do that.

Why not allow some parent to do the opposite??
How do you leap from the use of the word "whorehouse" on a sign at a college theater to butt plugs and anal sex?

When did a high school student become a young child?

I fail to see where I suggested that the grandpa in question doesn't have the right to raise his kid/grandkid as he sees fit.

Grandpa should probably have arranged for his grandkid to tour Bob Jones U, Liberty University or Oral Roberts, however.

[Red]

I think Grandpa is really over reacting. I was in high school when Best Little Whorehouse was produced on Broadway, it was a huge hit and then it became a "G" rated movie starring Dolly Parton. It was always referred to as just Whorehouse. It's the title of the play, it's just a word. And I'm sure anyone in high school has heard the word before, if he hasn't, it's time to grow up.

[Inabon]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jun 18 2005, 08:35 AM
People should be able to raise their children the way they want. That is the American way.

PD if some liberal like you wanted to teach your young children what a ho is, and what a butt plug is, and the subtleties of anal sex - I am sure you would be the first to fight for his "Constitutional" right to do that.

Why not allow some parent to do the opposite??
the point is if the parent want to do the oposite then he should do it at his house not go around pulling down signs he does not agree to.

if he wants to blind fold his son by all means let him do it but why mess with other peoples way of thinking and try to take down something just because he doesn't agree?

[Defiant]

Originally posted by Inabon+Jun 18 2005, 08:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Inabon @ Jun 18 2005, 08:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jun 18 2005, 08:35 AM
People should be able to raise their children the way they want. That is the American way.

PD if some liberal like you wanted to teach your young children what a ho is, and what a butt plug is, and the subtleties of anal sex - I am sure you would be the first to fight for his "Constitutional" right to do that.

Why not allow some parent to do the opposite??
the point is if the parent want to do the oposite then he should do it at his house not go around pulling down signs he does not agree to.

if he wants to blind fold his son by all means let him do it but why mess with other peoples way of thinking and try to take down something just because he doesn't agree? [/b][/quote]
It's the Republican way. Instead of teaching your own children your own set of morals and values, you do all you can to make everyone else conform to your standards, and you demonize those who refuse to blindly go along with your plan.

[PornoDoggy]

I am not sure that Republican fits into this discussion any more than butt plug does.

[Trev]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jun 18 2005, 06:25 PM
I am not sure that Republican fits into this discussion any more than butt plug does.
For years I thought the two were one in the same :yowsa:

[PornoDoggy]

I think you are confused.

A butt plug goes IN an asshole.

A Republican IS an asshole.

[note - this is a feeble joke. Some of my best friends (and one of my daughters) are Republicans.]

[JR]

Originally posted by Defiant+Jun 18 2005, 08:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Defiant @ Jun 18 2005, 08:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Inabon@Jun 18 2005, 08:21 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jun 18 2005, 08:35 AM
People should be able to raise their children the way they want. That is the American way.

PD if some liberal like you wanted to teach your young children what a ho is, and what a butt plug is, and the subtleties of anal sex - I am sure you would be the first to fight for his "Constitutional" right to do that.

Why not allow some parent to do the opposite??
the point is if the parent want to do the oposite then he should do it at his house not go around pulling down signs he does not agree to.

if he wants to blind fold his son by all means let him do it but why mess with other peoples way of thinking and try to take down something just because he doesn't agree?
It's the Republican way. Instead of teaching your own children your own set of morals and values, you do all you can to make everyone else conform to your standards, and you demonize those who refuse to blindly go along with your plan. [/b][/quote]
how do you figure that republicans do not teach their children morals and values?

[Defiant]

Originally posted by JR+Jun 18 2005, 10:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Jun 18 2005, 10:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Defiant@Jun 18 2005, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Inabon@Jun 18 2005, 08:21 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jun 18 2005, 08:35 AM
People should be able to raise their children the way they want. That is the American way.

PD if some liberal like you wanted to teach your young children what a ho is, and what a butt plug is, and the subtleties of anal sex - I am sure you would be the first to fight for his "Constitutional" right to do that.

Why not allow some parent to do the opposite??
the point is if the parent want to do the oposite then he should do it at his house not go around pulling down signs he does not agree to.

if he wants to blind fold his son by all means let him do it but why mess with other peoples way of thinking and try to take down something just because he doesn't agree?
It's the Republican way. Instead of teaching your own children your own set of morals and values, you do all you can to make everyone else conform to your standards, and you demonize those who refuse to blindly go along with your plan.
how do you figure that republicans do not teach their children morals and values? [/b][/quote]
I'm sure they do. Hell, my dad has been a life-long Republican, as has that entire side of the family. He was always drilling me about character, personal responsibility, keeping your word, etcetera (he was a Marine Lt. Colonel and A-4 pilot). My point, though, was that the Republicans do not seem to be satisfied with just making sure that their own children and other family members follow their values. They want everyone else to do as they wish, as well. The new 2257 regulations are just the latest in proving that point. If you want to be in this industry, then they feel that everyone should have access to your personal information so they can come to your house for whatever reason, even if that reason is to stalk, kidnap, rape and/or kill you.
Of course, this is just my opinion and I COULD be wrong... but how many people have to be terrorized and/or killed before everyone else can see this, too?

[JR]

Originally posted by Defiant+Jun 18 2005, 10:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Defiant @ Jun 18 2005, 10:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by JR@Jun 18 2005, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by Defiant@Jun 18 2005, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Inabon@Jun 18 2005, 08:21 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jun 18 2005, 08:35 AM
People should be able to raise their children the way they want. That is the American way.

PD if some liberal like you wanted to teach your young children what a ho is, and what a butt plug is, and the subtleties of anal sex - I am sure you would be the first to fight for his "Constitutional" right to do that.

Why not allow some parent to do the opposite??
the point is if the parent want to do the oposite then he should do it at his house not go around pulling down signs he does not agree to.

if he wants to blind fold his son by all means let him do it but why mess with other peoples way of thinking and try to take down something just because he doesn't agree?
It's the Republican way. Instead of teaching your own children your own set of morals and values, you do all you can to make everyone else conform to your standards, and you demonize those who refuse to blindly go along with your plan.
how do you figure that republicans do not teach their children morals and values?
I'm sure they do. Hell, my dad has been a life-long Republican, as has that entire side of the family. He was always drilling me about character, personal responsibility, keeping your word, etcetera (he was a Marine Lt. Colonel and A-4 pilot). My point, though, was that the Republicans do not seem to be satisfied with just making sure that their own children and other family members follow their values. They want everyone else to do as they wish, as well. The new 2257 regulations are just the latest in proving that point. If you want to be in this industry, then they feel that everyone should have access to your personal information so they can come to your house for whatever reason, even if that reason is to stalk, kidnap, rape and/or kill you.
Of course, this is just my opinion and I COULD be wrong... but how many people have to be terrorized and/or killed before everyone else can see this, too? [/b][/quote]

each side tries to project their own sense of values on everyone. whether it is failed, utopianistic ideals such as socialized medicine and increased welfare or even less hard core porn online. the difference is that you don't agree with one side and you are biased towards your own, so you percieve it as being a one way street. its not. I could just as easily argue that your anti - Bush stance or anti-republican stance is an example of the exact same thing you are claiming to be against.

when you start saying "50% of the population is wrong because...", you already have a weak argument.

50% of the US population did not create 2257. most of the people in the USA, Democrat or Republican have no idea what it is. So how do you figure that 50% of the people in the USA created that law to enforce their values on you? "Republicans" in the USA are not arguing that a porn models ID should be available to the public. Republicans in the USA have no idea that this law exists except those in Washington DC that helped create it.

you frustration seems to be very misplaced as you are confusing almost 150,000,000 people with the actions of 100 or so.

[TheEnforcer]

Originally posted by JR+Jun 18 2005, 05:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Jun 18 2005, 05:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Defiant@Jun 18 2005, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by JR@Jun 18 2005, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by Defiant@Jun 18 2005, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Inabon@Jun 18 2005, 08:21 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jun 18 2005, 08:35 AM
People should be able to raise their children the way they want. That is the American way.

PD if some liberal like you wanted to teach your young children what a ho is, and what a butt plug is, and the subtleties of anal sex - I am sure you would be the first to fight for his "Constitutional" right to do that.

Why not allow some parent to do the opposite??
the point is if the parent want to do the oposite then he should do it at his house not go around pulling down signs he does not agree to.

if he wants to blind fold his son by all means let him do it but why mess with other peoples way of thinking and try to take down something just because he doesn't agree?
It's the Republican way. Instead of teaching your own children your own set of morals and values, you do all you can to make everyone else conform to your standards, and you demonize those who refuse to blindly go along with your plan.
how do you figure that republicans do not teach their children morals and values?
I'm sure they do. Hell, my dad has been a life-long Republican, as has that entire side of the family. He was always drilling me about character, personal responsibility, keeping your word, etcetera (he was a Marine Lt. Colonel and A-4 pilot). My point, though, was that the Republicans do not seem to be satisfied with just making sure that their own children and other family members follow their values. They want everyone else to do as they wish, as well. The new 2257 regulations are just the latest in proving that point. If you want to be in this industry, then they feel that everyone should have access to your personal information so they can come to your house for whatever reason, even if that reason is to stalk, kidnap, rape and/or kill you.
Of course, this is just my opinion and I COULD be wrong... but how many people have to be terrorized and/or killed before everyone else can see this, too?

each side tries to project their own sense of values on everyone. whether it is failed, utopianistic ideals such as socialized medicine and increased welfare or even less hard core porn online. the difference is that you don't agree with one side and you are biased towards your own, so you percieve it as being a one way street. its not. I could just as easily argue that your anti - Bush stance or anti-republican stance is an example of the exact same thing you are claiming to be against.

when you start saying "50% of the population is wrong because...", you already have a weak argument.

50% of the US population did not create 2257. most of the people in the USA, Democrat or Republican have no idea what it is. So how do you figure that 50% of the people in the USA created that law to enforce their values on you? "Republicans" in the USA are not arguing that a porn models ID should be available to the public. Republicans in the USA have no idea that this law exists except those in Washington DC that helped create it.

you frustration seems to be very misplaced as you are confusing almost 150,000,000 people with the actions of 100 or so. [/b][/quote]
You would be surprised how closely religious right groups follow porn issues like the current 2257 issue. Some of those groups do everything and everything in their power to get laws regarding porn changed and know a lot about issues like 2257. I have little doubt that there will be many people in those anti-porn groups that will have just as much or more to do with geting enforcement actions going against people by prodding the government along as there is from government agents enforcing the actions though only their own actions.

[JR]

Originally posted by TheEnforcer@Jun 18 2005, 03:16 PM

You would be surprised how closely religious right groups follow porn issues like the current 2257 issue. Some of those groups do everything and everything in their power to get laws regarding porn changed and know a lot about issues like 2257. I have little doubt that there will be many people in those anti-porn groups that will have just as much or more to do with geting enforcement actions going against people by prodding the government along as there is from government agents enforcing the actions though only their own actions.
why would i be suprised that a few whack jobs obsess on what they feel is the new silver bullet to further their cause. go to your mall and start asking random people to explain what 2257 means and they will not have an answer. the average person has no idea. the average person does not even know the capital of Iowa... much less what 2257 is and if it is important or not.

Bush said from day 1 that he was coming after porn. before Bush, there was already a massive uproar with COPA, FTC investigations and obscenity prosucutions under Clinton.

maybe i missed something? 2257 requirements existed before the internet. less than 10% of the adult web even went as far to make a half assed attempt at complying. the industry has never made an attempt to protect minors from porn while knowing it would be a huge problem politically. instead everyone was busy double billing credit cards, reseting homepages to scat.com and spamming 10 year olds with hardcore HTML e-mails. so after 10 years almost, the government attacks. why would anyone be suprised?

is anyone willing to go on record explaining how they were completely caught off guard they were and had no idea that tough laws were coming? doubtful.

i am no more suprised at christians for wanting to curb the availability of porn online than i am at democrats for proclaiming anyone who tries to deal with illegal immigration in california as being a racist while the economy continues to be bankrupted. in politics, each side is equally fucked up and ignorant.. it has to be for the system to be in balance. what keeps the wheels of our political system turning is the pathetic fact that it is everyones belief that there is only one right answer, they know it and the other side is wrong.

every political group has agendas... no matter which side of the fence they are on. that was my only point in responding.

i am not saying i agree with the 2257 laws... i don't. but at the same time, i dont care. I dont agree with a lot of things in the world. i dont agree that a hair dryer should have instructions on them telling users not to use them while taking a shower... i would prefer those people were electrocuted. but thats life. you adapt and overcome or die. that is what business is. the more pressure put on this business, the more successful i will be. end of story.

[PornoDoggy]

Geezuz Kee-rist in a sidecar, folks ...

I thought it kind of funny that a person alive in the year 2005 could actually say he wasn't sure he was ready to "explain" what a whorehouse was to a high-school aged grandson. That goes far beyond a discussion of values - unless the grandson has been home-schooled in a cave and denied access to other kids his own age, the idea that he wouldn't know what a whorehouse is strikes me as patently absurd.

There is nothing in the original news article that suggests the person in question is an evangelical.

I realize that I posted it, and it does somehow relate to a values issue - therefore Pavlov's little bell has rung and certain puppies were obligated to salivate.

How this got to 2257 escapes me, however. My intent was to post what I thought was an amusing article about an extremely niave man.

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jun 19 2005, 12:48 AM
My intent was to post what I thought was an amusing article about an extremely niave man.
Silly, PD!

Dontcha know by now that when it comes to Oprano every little gesture by anyone is targeted in some bizarre and far-fetched way to major political scruitiny and debate?

:blink: :blink: :blink:

[Trev]

Originally posted by Dravyk+Jun 19 2005, 07:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dravyk @ Jun 19 2005, 07:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-PornoDoggy@Jun 19 2005, 12:48 AM
My intent was to post what I thought was an amusing article about an extremely niave man.
Silly, PD!

Dontcha know by now that when it comes to Oprano every little gesture by anyone is targeted in some bizarre and far-fetched way to major political scruitiny and debate?

:blink: :blink: :blink: [/b][/quote]
Not by me, I try to not post about bollocks'itics :)

[sarettah]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jun 19 2005, 12:48 AM
How this got to 2257 escapes me, however. My intent was to post what I thought was an amusing article about an extremely niave man.
Bullshit. You fucking commie !

You knew exactly where this discussion would go. You guys stop at nothing to shove your pinko faggot agenda down the throats of freedom loving Americans everywhere :grrr:



















Good Job :okthumb:

:nyanya:

[EroticySteve]

1) It's a university. Not a daycare or even a high school.
2) It's a famous production.
3) If the kid doesn't know what a WhoreHouse is he's a geek.
4) Where are this kids parents that the Grandpa has to raise him?
5) Who cares?