CIA

[Evil Chris]

Strange things are happening in Washington these days.
First you have the Downing Street Memo (http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/) which brings a lot of things to light. Like how Bush's government did not believe Iraq was a greater threat than other nations; how intelligence was "fixed" to sell the case for war to the American public; and how the Bush Administration’s public assurances of "war as a last resort" were at odds with their privately stated intentions.

This all ties in nicely with something else. How Bush has now side-lined the CIA (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1069065,00.html) and excluded CIA director Porter Goss from National Security Council meetings in favour of John Negroponte, the new director of National Intelligence.

How convenient that the Bush administration now has their own private intel agency working hand in hand with Homeland security. They can take the intel they think will further their agenda and ignore the rest of it (hmmm... 911?).

This is happening right in everyone's faces. You know the old adage "can't see the forest for the trees"?

[Trev]

Damn those sneaky Brits to hell :o

[Winetalk.com]

rawalex, ec..was Canada used by US for some nuclear experiments poisoning their soil and undeground water supply?


Free Canada!

[Timon]

Coming soon: http://www.moronlist.com - Will you be on it?

[Trev]

Originally posted by Timon@Jun 14 2005, 02:46 PM
Coming soon: http://www.moronlist.com - Will you be on it?
Subtle, really subtle :)

[PornoDoggy]

I'm not exactly known for my robust defense of the Bushites. Still, IMHO, people are making too much of the whole "exclud[ing] CIA director Porter Goss" stuff.

Favoring Negroponte over Goss is little different than favoring the National Security advisor's recommendations over those of the Secretary of State.

This administration operates more on ideology than reality. That would still be true if the ill-timed intelligence reorganization had not taken place. Arguing about which pencil-necked geeks attend specific meetings won't change that.

The thing about "The Downing Street 'Memo'" is there is no real smoking gun for Americans. Everybody with the brain of a slug knows that "... intelligence was "fixed" to sell the case for war to the American public; ... the Bush Administration’s public assurances of "war as a last resort" were at odds with their privately stated intentions".

[Evil Chris]

Originally posted by Timon@Jun 14 2005, 09:46 AM
Coming soon: http://www.moronlist.com - Will you be on it?
hehehe.... Thanks Timon.
But does being dissident make one a moron? :lol:

[Timon]

Originally posted by Evil Chris+Jun 14 2005, 09:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evil Chris @ Jun 14 2005, 09:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Timon@Jun 14 2005, 09:46 AM
Coming soon: http://www.moronlist.com - Will you be on it?
hehehe.... Thanks Timon.
But does being dissident make one a moron? :lol: [/b][/quote]
No it doesn't make one a moron.

Doesn't unmake one a moron either ;-)

[Evil Chris]

could be one of the many reasons I am an asshole... (http://www.isjustanasshole.com/) :lol:

[Trev]

I really need to clear up that my list isn't going to be tongue in cheek fun... the people on my list are "in my opinion" morons...

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Trev@Jun 14 2005, 06:39 AM
I really need to clear up that my list isn't going to be tongue in cheek fun... the people on my list are "in my opinion" morons...
Ultimate Morons in fact LOL

[Trev]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Jun 14 2005, 04:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Jun 14 2005, 04:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Trev@Jun 14 2005, 06:39 AM
I really need to clear up that my list isn't going to be tongue in cheek fun... the people on my list are "in my opinion" morons...
Ultimate Morons in fact LOL [/b][/quote]
Exactly :)

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jun 14 2005, 08:56 AM
I'm not exactly known for my robust defense of the Bushites. Still, IMHO, people are making too much of the whole "exclud[ing] CIA director Porter Goss" stuff.

Favoring Negroponte over Goss is little different than favoring the National Security advisor's recommendations over those of the Secretary of State.

This administration operates more on ideology than reality. That would still be true if the ill-timed intelligence reorganization had not taken place. Arguing about which pencil-necked geeks attend specific meetings won't change that.

The thing about "The Downing Street 'Memo'" is there is no real smoking gun for Americans. Everybody with the brain of a slug knows that "... intelligence was "fixed" to sell the case for war to the American public; ... the Bush Administration’s public assurances of "war as a last resort" were at odds with their privately stated intentions".
Same thing happens in favoring either the Director of the NEC or the Secretary of the Treasury. At various times, one or the other has been favored in the past two administrations.

[Evil Chris]

Originally posted by Trev@Jun 14 2005, 10:39 AM
I really need to clear up that my list isn't going to be tongue in cheek fun... the people on my list are "in my opinion" morons...
:) my fingers are crossed Trev...

[Trev]

Originally posted by Evil Chris+Jun 14 2005, 06:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evil Chris @ Jun 14 2005, 06:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Trev@Jun 14 2005, 10:39 AM
I really need to clear up that my list isn't going to be tongue in cheek fun... the people on my list are "in my opinion" morons...
:) my fingers are crossed Trev... [/b][/quote]
lol :lol:


Sorry Chris you've not made the grade, you just don't seem to try hard enough :)