Some Music Classification Help

[Dravyk]

Ok, I'm looking over this list in the paper for bands/music at the local bars & clubs. And I see how this particular rag has really stretched out what bars it classifies as playing what music. So would like some opinions here please from both all you listeners and if any of you go out to the clubs especially.

Ok, first, the standards ... Rock, Dance, Jazz, R&B, Country, Latin, Reggae, Hip-Hop.

Here comes in a bit of confusion. They list places playing House but they also list Techno seperately. Similiar, no?

They also list here Trance, Punk (it's the 70s again?), Goth, Breakbeat, Alternative, and Electroclash.

Ok, I guess I'm old. What is what above and what is similiar and how do some of these differ, and what the heck is Breakbeat and Electroclash and Trance? :)

[Timon]

House and techno... well techno is house but house is more than just techno ;-)

Trance and breakbeat are house, punk and alternative are more like really bad rock. Electroclash? Probably a new abomination I'm too old to be familiar with ;-)

[Trev]

Here's my take given the standards you've listed:

Trance, Breakbeat, Electroclash, House are all dance music (but all are very different, still pump pump pump though)

Punk and Goth are Rock

I've no idea what Alternative is though

[sarettah]

All I know is that if it came out after 1975 it sucks..... :yowsa:

[Timon]

Originally posted by sarettah@Jun 14 2005, 08:31 AM
All I know is that if it came out after 1975 it sucks..... :yowsa:
Hey I came out after 1975 ;-))

[TheEnforcer]

Who the fuck cares? :)

[Trev]

Originally posted by TheEnforcer@Jun 14 2005, 05:13 PM
Who the fuck cares? :)
Me, because I like dance music :purpdance:

[Lee]

I say one category should fit...

Shite.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Lee@Jun 14 2005, 08:26 AM
I say one category should fit...

Shite.
I agree.

"""Trance, Goth, Breakbeat, Alternative, and Electroclash"""

All shite

[TheEnforcer]

Originally posted by Trev+Jun 14 2005, 11:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Trev @ Jun 14 2005, 11:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TheEnforcer@Jun 14 2005, 05:13 PM
Who the fuck cares? :)
Me, because I like dance music :purpdance: [/b][/quote]
I nominate Trev for the Moron List!! :)

[Bhelliom]

Originally posted by TheEnforcer+Jun 14 2005, 08:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheEnforcer @ Jun 14 2005, 08:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Trev@Jun 14 2005, 11:19 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-TheEnforcer@Jun 14 2005, 05:13 PM
Who the fuck cares? :)
Me, because I like dance music :purpdance:
I nominate Trev for the Moron List!! :) [/b][/quote]
Alternative generally refers to Alternative rock... anything new but not quite mainstream yet...

in the day it would have been seattle rock bands like nirvana before they became popular.

these days it would be bands like green day to a certain extent... dave matthews, mudvayne , seether, slipknot.

but also adult alternative such as lifehouse, kelly clarkson, and 3 doors down.

in other words Alternative music is anything that is and ALTERNATE to mainstream music.

usually has more of a rock sound and beat

[Timon]

Originally posted by Bhelliom@Jun 14 2005, 12:13 PM
in other words Alternative music is anything that is and ALTERNATE to mainstream music.

So would you say Miles Davis is Alternative? :huh:

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Bhelliom+Jun 14 2005, 09:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bhelliom @ Jun 14 2005, 09:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by TheEnforcer@Jun 14 2005, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Trev@Jun 14 2005, 11:19 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-TheEnforcer@Jun 14 2005, 05:13 PM
Who the fuck cares? :)
Me, because I like dance music :purpdance:
I nominate Trev for the Moron List!! :)
Alternative generally refers to Alternative rock... anything new but not quite mainstream yet...

in the day it would have been seattle rock bands like nirvana before they became popular.

these days it would be bands like green day to a certain extent... dave matthews, mudvayne , seether, slipknot.

but also adult alternative such as lifehouse, kelly clarkson, and 3 doors down.

in other words Alternative music is anything that is and ALTERNATE to mainstream music.

usually has more of a rock sound and beat [/b][/quote]
ok , so its "shite" too.

[Trev]

Originally posted by TheEnforcer+Jun 14 2005, 05:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheEnforcer @ Jun 14 2005, 05:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Trev@Jun 14 2005, 11:19 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-TheEnforcer@Jun 14 2005, 05:13 PM
Who the fuck cares? :)
Me, because I like dance music :purpdance:
I nominate Trev for the Moron List!! :) [/b][/quote]
Everyone in this thread with the exception of me has already hit it :P

[Timon]

Alternative means bunch of fucking hippies trying to sound different so they are considered rebelious and make crappy music in the process.

I like my definition better than Bheliums

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Timon@Jun 14 2005, 09:26 AM
Alternative means bunch of fucking hippies trying to sound different so they are considered rebelious and make crappy music in the process.

I like my definition better than Bheliums
Exactly they are the "sykkboys" of music.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahaha

[Timon]

hahahahahahhahahahahahahaa

[Bhelliom]

Originally posted by Timon+Jun 14 2005, 09:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Jun 14 2005, 09:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Bhelliom@Jun 14 2005, 12:13 PM
in other words Alternative music is anything that is and ALTERNATE to mainstream music.

So would you say Miles Davis is Alternative? :huh: [/b][/quote]
who?

[Trev]

Originally posted by Bhelliom+Jun 14 2005, 06:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bhelliom @ Jun 14 2005, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Timon@Jun 14 2005, 09:16 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bhelliom@Jun 14 2005, 12:13 PM
in other words Alternative music is anything that is and ALTERNATE to mainstream music.

So would you say Miles Davis is Alternative? :huh:
who? [/b][/quote]
Some old geezer I think :yowsa:

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Bhelliom+Jun 14 2005, 09:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bhelliom @ Jun 14 2005, 09:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Timon@Jun 14 2005, 09:16 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bhelliom@Jun 14 2005, 12:13 PM
in other words Alternative music is anything that is and ALTERNATE to mainstream music.

So would you say Miles Davis is Alternative? :huh:
who? [/b][/quote]
You are kidding , right?

LOL

[Bhelliom]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Jun 14 2005, 09:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Jun 14 2005, 09:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Bhelliom@Jun 14 2005, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by Timon@Jun 14 2005, 09:16 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bhelliom@Jun 14 2005, 12:13 PM
in other words Alternative music is anything that is and ALTERNATE to mainstream music.

So would you say Miles Davis is Alternative? :huh:
who?
You are kidding , right?

LOL [/b][/quote]
lol honestly?

only half kidding.

I know who he is but can't come up with any songs off the top of my head

[Timon]

Originally posted by Bhelliom@Jun 14 2005, 12:42 PM
I know who he is but can't come up with any songs off the top of my head
So he's not mainstream!

Does that make him alternative?

[Bhelliom]

Originally posted by Timon+Jun 14 2005, 09:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Jun 14 2005, 09:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Bhelliom@Jun 14 2005, 12:42 PM
I know who he is but can't come up with any songs off the top of my head
So he's not mainstream!

Does that make him alternative? [/b][/quote]
no... just old

[Trev]

Originally posted by Bhelliom+Jun 14 2005, 07:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bhelliom @ Jun 14 2005, 07:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Timon@Jun 14 2005, 09:59 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bhelliom@Jun 14 2005, 12:42 PM
I know who he is but can't come up with any songs off the top of my head
So he's not mainstream!

Does that make him alternative?
no... just old [/b][/quote]
That's what I said :)

[Bhelliom]

Originally posted by Trev+Jun 14 2005, 10:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Trev @ Jun 14 2005, 10:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Bhelliom@Jun 14 2005, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Timon@Jun 14 2005, 09:59 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bhelliom@Jun 14 2005, 12:42 PM
I know who he is but can't come up with any songs off the top of my head
So he's not mainstream!

Does that make him alternative?
no... just old
That's what I said :) [/b][/quote]
that's how i knew what the right answer was

[Vick]

If it is has energy, is tasteful and tuneful, have feeling or feel to it, has a good groove, is intellectual or down right sexy it works for me

A little grind and some knowledge of how music should be structured, maybe some anger but not angst

Play it from the crotch, the heart or the mind and not be pretentious works for me

Hot funk, cool punk it's still rock and roll to me

made easy, Aerosmith = God

Pearl Jam = pretentious, whiney bullshit that influnced way too many want to be's

Where's Frank, Louis and Ella?


Jane Says

[Bhelliom]

Originally posted by Vick@Jun 14 2005, 10:43 AM
If it is has energy, is tasteful and tuneful, have feeling or feel to it, has a good groove, is intellectual or down right sexy it works for me

A little grind and some knowledge of how music should be structured, maybe some anger but not angst

Play it from the crotch, the heart or the mind and not be pretentious works for me

Hot funk, cool punk it's still rock and roll to me

made easy, Aerosmith = God

Pearl Jam = pretentious, whiney bullshit that influnced way too many want to be's

Where's Frank, Louis and Ella?


Jane Says
At the risk of sounding faggy... Ella is great. so are most of the jazz/blues stars of that era.

not so much a fan of acid jazz though. for those of you who are asking WTF is that... acid jazz is jazz made with synthesizers and is a mix of techno and jazz

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by Timon@Jun 14 2005, 02:28 AM
House and techno... well techno is house but house is more than just techno ;-)

Trance and breakbeat are house, punk and alternative are more like really bad rock. Electroclash? Probably a new abomination I'm too old to be familiar with ;-)
Trance, Breakbeat, Electroclash, House are all dance music (but all are very different, still pump pump pump though)

Punk and Goth are Rock

I've no idea what Alternative is though

Ok, so "House" is the all encompassing one that Techno, Trance, Breakbeat, and such would come under then, yes?

And that is all "dance music". But not disco, right?

And alternative, goth and punk are sucky rock.

And everything is shite.

I got that down? :agrin:

[Bhelliom]

:okthumb:

[Nickatilynx]

Look its easy...

There is "total shite" , " shite" , "Complete crap" , "crap" and then the ABSOLUTE worse music can be summed up by "Sykkboy likes it"

:)

[Dravyk]

You forgot "smeg". B)

[Bhelliom]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Jun 14 2005, 10:57 AM
Look its easy...

There is "total shite" , " shite" , "Complete crap" , "crap" and then the ABSOLUTE worse music can be summed up by "Sykkboy likes it"

:)
was that in order?

wouldn't shite be better than total shite?

or is crap at the top? and total shite at the bottom?

[Nickatilynx]

You seem to know your shite!

;-))

[DrGuile]

This thread is a laugh and a half!

And Its odd that people are surprised that Trev likes Techno/dance.... he's Eurotrash!

;)

here, just to mess around with you, I like emo-core, lowfi rock, shoegazing rock, indie rock, prog-metal, rap metal, punk, some neo-punkl, and good old rock'n'roll ;)

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by DrGuile@Jun 14 2005, 11:25 AM
This thread is a laugh and a half!

And Its odd that people are surprised that Trev likes Techno/dance.... he's Eurotrash!

;)

here, just to mess around with you, I like emo-core, lowfi rock, shoegazing rock, indie rock, prog-metal, rap metal, punk, some neo-punkl, and good old rock'n'roll ;)
You forgot that french crap hip hop...

[DrGuile]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Jun 14 2005, 02:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Jun 14 2005, 02:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DrGuile@Jun 14 2005, 11:25 AM
This thread is a laugh and a half!

And Its odd that people are surprised that Trev likes Techno/dance.... he's Eurotrash!

;)

here, just to mess around with you, I like emo-core, lowfi rock, shoegazing rock, indie rock, prog-metal, rap metal, punk, some neo-punkl, and good old rock'n'roll ;)
You forgot that french crap hip hop... [/b][/quote]
lol, you've never heard it... but that group is an exception, I dont like rap as a rule of thumb...

but I only put a selection on there... I even like pop sometimes (i.e. Bjork), or some quebec singers (Richard Desjardins)...

eh, if its good, its good, I dont care much about genres...

[Trev]

Originally posted by DrGuile@Jun 14 2005, 08:25 PM
This thread is a laugh and a half!

And Its odd that people are surprised that Trev likes Techno/dance.... he's Eurotrash!

;)

here, just to mess around with you, I like emo-core, lowfi rock, shoegazing rock, indie rock, prog-metal, rap metal, punk, some neo-punkl, and good old rock'n'roll ;)

Thank you :)

[EroticySteve]

Anyone know of any good Rockabilly bars in or around Tampa Fl? I've found a few big country bars and places to line dance but that's not my Schtick.

Any other Rockabilly or Psychobilly fans in here?

[Trev]

Originally posted by EroticySteve@Jun 14 2005, 08:59 PM
Anyone know of any good Rockabilly bars in or around Tampa Fl? I've found a few big country bars and places to line dance but that's not my Schtick.

Any other Rockabilly or Psychobilly fans in here?
A Rocka'what'now :blink:


Is this a US thing?

[Dravyk]

I once knew a guy named Psycho Billy. That help? :P

You forgot that french crap hip hop...
LMAO! I've managed to see a couple of those French rap videos while turning the TV dial. Worse than the white hoppers in America!

.... Even makes the chevs look respectable! hehehehe

[Timon]

Originally posted by Bhelliom+Jun 14 2005, 01:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bhelliom @ Jun 14 2005, 01:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Timon@Jun 14 2005, 09:59 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bhelliom@Jun 14 2005, 12:42 PM
I know who he is but can't come up with any songs off the top of my head
So he's not mainstream!

Does that make him alternative?
no... just old [/b][/quote]
Fucking hippy