3 months training down the drain

[Anthony]

I push myself heavy in the gym, it seems too much almost 2 weeks ago. I was doing leg presses on the leg incline machine with 9 45's on each side. On the 4th set, and strong, perfect rhythm, I'm expecting to finish 10 reps, so sure of it, I have my hands on the back of the seat instead of my kness to spot. 5 reps go, 6, 7, 8 comes down, and I'm about to push up, but my legs go to total failure, give out and everything comes crashing down on me.

Fortunately for me that there was a safety stop, enough for me to get out from underneath. But the weight dropping down on me put my knees by my ears. I thought I was lucky and got away from any damage. So thursday rolls around, I'm a little sore, I have dinner with Serge and Sue, thinking "Yeah it's all good". Around midnight, all of the sudden I am sore. Sore in my shoulders, my arms, forearms, calves, legs, everywhere. It's so bad, I can't even stand up. I take off Friday, take some anti inflamatory and rest. By end of weekend, I can move, but I look like a 70 year old man limping around.

I get my massage therapist to work on me by tuesday, and I feel a new man for the rest of the week. Almost normal. Come up to this weekend past, was feeling pretty good, in fact on Saturday I joined a boxing gym. Sunday rolls around, morning feel strange in the legs, but nothing major. My sisters were down so my baby sister gives mw a theurapatic massage for my lower back. By afternoon, my legs are feeling tingly, I feel it walking up stairs. By the end of the night, I'm having problems getting up from a sitting position, and everything hurts again, almost exactly like 11 or so days ago.

I am in serious pain getting ready for work, I make it to the office, but I'm limping bad again. I needed help getting out of my chair in the office, and I'm tired. I can't keep my eyes open, which makes no sense, I had over 7 hours sleep the night before. I call my Doctor and get an appt within that hour. I'm at the Docs for an hour and a half, get treated, get some scripts and I'm told I'm going in for an MRI that night.

The MRI is an experience. The tech is filipino, and there's a lot of talk about the P.I. etc. So he now tries to get me in the tube for the MRI. I got my arms on my side and my hands are crossed over my chest. All the sudden I'm trying to get shoved in this thing, and the first thing to come to mind is Serge's old saying of "Shoving 10 lbs of shit in a 5lbs bag". I can't fit in it. So instead of having my arms by myside, I now have to have them over my head, ala super man. So I have to lay in this thing for 35 minutes with my arms over my head. Loud as fuck in that thing, the ear plugs really don't help much. Good thing I can sleep in pretty much anywhere.

I get out, the tech is helping me turn, and then comments, "Your arm is the size of my leg". Which is something I've never heard before (heavy sarcasm). So tomorrow I get to find out if it's a herniated disc. It would make sense, the muscle failure and pain all over my body.

Doctor tells me to stay in bed for the next few days, my appt is tomorrow to find out how exactly I fucked myself up. All this to get in better shape. Wonderful.

[*KK*]

Wow, that doesn't sound like a herniated disk to me Ant. I had one 3 years ago -- l4/l5 rupture with disintegration and floating debris in my spinal canal. I couldn't walk for months without pain and massive discomfort, even after the two spinal epidural fills I got at the Mayo.

This sounds, not to scare you, more severe than a ruptured disk if you've got pain and numbness and tingling all over your body. Mine was limited to the right side sciatic nerve, but even that was enough to drive me crazy nearly.

Keep us posted, this sounds like something you definitely need to get worked on by the doctors, not the massage therapists.

[Trev]

That’s terrible news mate. :(

I agree with Kimmy in that it sounds more serious than a herniated disk, as my mother has suffered with one and I don’t recall her having some of the troubles you’ve had.

Toni and I have our fingers crossed for you and hope you can pull back from this as quickly as possible.



See, I kept telling you being lazy is better for you. :(

[gonzo]

I will have an extra donut with Nick this weekend as we hope for your quick recovery.

[grimm]

Originally posted by *KK*@May 9 2005, 11:00 PM
Wow, that doesn't sound like a herniated disk to me Ant. I had one 3 years ago -- l4/l5 rupture with disintegration and floating debris in my spinal canal. I couldn't walk for months without pain and massive discomfort, even after the two spinal epidural fills I got at the Mayo.

This sounds, not to scare you, more severe than a ruptured disk if you've got pain and numbness and tingling all over your body. Mine was limited to the right side sciatic nerve, but even that was enough to drive me crazy nearly.

Keep us posted, this sounds like something you definitely need to get worked on by the doctors, not the massage therapists.
a rumptured disc in your lower back can cause your ciatic nerve to go nuts down both legs, down your hamstrings to your calves. even worse if he tore a muscle in his lower back, every time that spasms hes going to get the pain down the legs. but it would not interfere with actual mobility, other than pain. i hope its not a compressed vertibrae. best of luck to you anthony, i hope it is something irritating, but minor!

[grimm]

Originally posted by *KK*@May 9 2005, 11:00 PM
Wow, that doesn't sound like a herniated disk to me Ant. I had one 3 years ago -- l4/l5 rupture with disintegration and floating debris in my spinal canal. I couldn't walk for months without pain and massive discomfort, even after the two spinal epidural fills I got at the Mayo.

This sounds, not to scare you, more severe than a ruptured disk if you've got pain and numbness and tingling all over your body. Mine was limited to the right side sciatic nerve, but even that was enough to drive me crazy nearly.

Keep us posted, this sounds like something you definitely need to get worked on by the doctors, not the massage therapists.
is that what that was, i remember you were in a bunch of pain when i met you.

[Newton]

Jesus man, I hope its just bruising that requires complete rest for the short term. Thats a lot of weight to come crashing down on you suddenly. I have my fingers crossed as well, that this is a short-term thing, and that you get a speedy recovery man.

[Inabon]

hey ant hope you feel better. the only thing i can say is that at least you have feeling and are walking. you may have very heavy inflamation in lower back that is fucking you up.

funny how everyone becomes a doctor when this shit happens jajajaja

get better soon m8..


dont worry your boxes are in good hands.

[BillPMB]

Hey Ant,

Hope ya get through this with minimal intrusive probing into embarrassing orifices. I have no experience with back injuries but I know they can be debilitating.

Think I'll stick to running and stuff like that. ;)

[Mike AI]

Ant take care of yourself!!!

[gigi]

ouch.....good luck Ant....sending healing vibes your way!

[Peaches]

That's why I don't work out - too dangerous! :P

Hope you feel better soon, Ant!

[*KK*]

Originally posted by grimm@May 9 2005, 11:42 PM
is that what that was, i remember you were in a bunch of pain when i met you.
Nah, I've got some minor arthritis in c2-c4 that gives me grief on occasion, the rupture was totally unrelated... one minute I was in BC fly fishing and kayaking, the next day I was in unstoppable tears trying to get through the Vancouver airport to baggage claim.

Sciatic nerves are fuckers though. The only real way I can describe how it felt when it ruptured is something akin to having a line of meathooks run down your leg from your ass to your ankle, and someone trying to pull the muscles off the bone with them. :(

[Steady]

From your post, I take it you were pressing 800 plus pound of iron on the Smith machine?

I take it with that amount of weight your knees were wrapped?

I take it you were wearing a belt?

If you came crashing down, I take it you had no spotters?

I've been there and done that! Hope you feel better man!

[Anthony]

Thanks everyone. Going to my appt in a few hours to find out what the problem is.

[Anthony]

Originally posted by Steady@May 10 2005, 07:16 AM
From your post, I take it you were pressing 800 plus pound of iron on the Smith machine?

I take it with that amount of weight your knees were wrapped?

I take it you were wearing a belt?

If you came crashing down, I take it you had no spotters?

I've been there and done that! Hope you feel better man!
I don't wear a belt for anything. It was an incline leg press.

I don't think the belt would have helped.

[JoesHO]

Good luck on a speedy recovery Ant, and like has been said, ( and I am sure you intend on) take good care of yourself in the healing process.

[TheEnforcer]

Sorry to hear that man. Hope everything turns out ok for ya. Keep us informed and get better fast!

[Phoenix]

sorry to hear that man..i pulled my back slightly, i could barely walk for a few weeks.

stretched it out, and been taking it easy since.

[PattyeCake*]

Good Luck with this Ant... been there done that... have several T-shirts
9 back surgeries down.... one to go....


let me know what the doc say??

[Nickatilynx]

Fuck dude.

Let us know the results

You gotta be less obsessive me old friend.

I do NOT want to be dining in my old age with a friend in a wheelchair!!!

You watch your ass!

[MikeFold]

Originally posted by grimm+May 10 2005, 04:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ May 10 2005, 04:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-*KK*@May 9 2005, 11:00 PM
Wow, that doesn't sound like a herniated disk to me Ant. I had one 3 years ago -- l4/l5 rupture with disintegration and floating debris in my spinal canal. I couldn't walk for months without pain and massive discomfort, even after the two spinal epidural fills I got at the Mayo.

This sounds, not to scare you, more severe than a ruptured disk if you've got pain and numbness and tingling all over your body. Mine was limited to the right side sciatic nerve, but even that was enough to drive me crazy nearly.

Keep us posted, this sounds like something you definitely need to get worked on by the doctors, not the massage therapists.
a rumptured disc in your lower back can cause your ciatic nerve to go nuts down both legs, down your hamstrings to your calves. even worse if he tore a muscle in his lower back, every time that spasms hes going to get the pain down the legs. but it would not interfere with actual mobility, other than pain. i hope its not a compressed vertibrae. best of luck to you anthony, i hope it is something irritating, but minor! [/b][/quote]
Anthony..
both of these descriptions are very accurate....

I am STILL rehabbing from sciatica over 9 months ago...
(compression, not herniated)

Its nasty, but not (in my case) the "end all" of injuries....

Hope it works out OK for ya!

[Bestat]

Ow! Best of luck Ant! Back pain is some of the worse!

[Dravyk]

Ant, hope all goes well, bro. I'd say "I'm pulling for you" but that might not sound appropriate. Seriously though, I sincerely feel for you, and hope everything comes out well Keep us informed.

Sciatic nerves are fuckers though
Hell yes! :( I have had intermittant problems for a few of years now. The worse was about 2.5 years ago and a lovely num/hurt for 4.5 months. Had a reminder of that a couple months ago, when I had about six weeks of it return. With me I get stress in the shoulder blades and back, and when the muscles get too knotted it seems to catch a nerve there. Not at all fun.

[grimm]

Originally posted by *KK*+May 10 2005, 07:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*KK* @ May 10 2005, 07:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-grimm@May 9 2005, 11:42 PM
is that what that was, i remember you were in a bunch of pain when i met you.
Nah, I've got some minor arthritis in c2-c4 that gives me grief on occasion, the rupture was totally unrelated... one minute I was in BC fly fishing and kayaking, the next day I was in unstoppable tears trying to get through the Vancouver airport to baggage claim.

Sciatic nerves are fuckers though. The only real way I can describe how it felt when it ruptured is something akin to having a line of meathooks run down your leg from your ass to your ankle, and someone trying to pull the muscles off the bone with them. :( [/b][/quote]
Ouch, that sounds about right. baggage claim? id have ended up killing someone:)



Im slowly learning the lesson that i am no longer 20 years old:)

[Nickatilynx]

News?

[*KK*]

Originally posted by grimm+May 10 2005, 11:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ May 10 2005, 11:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by *KK*@May 10 2005, 07:03 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-grimm@May 9 2005, 11:42 PM
is that what that was, i remember you were in a bunch of pain when i met you.
Nah, I've got some minor arthritis in c2-c4 that gives me grief on occasion, the rupture was totally unrelated... one minute I was in BC fly fishing and kayaking, the next day I was in unstoppable tears trying to get through the Vancouver airport to baggage claim.

Sciatic nerves are fuckers though. The only real way I can describe how it felt when it ruptured is something akin to having a line of meathooks run down your leg from your ass to your ankle, and someone trying to pull the muscles off the bone with them. :(
Ouch, that sounds about right. baggage claim? id have ended up killing someone:)



Im slowly learning the lesson that i am no longer 20 years old:) [/b][/quote]
I think you were 20 when I met you tho, right? ;)

[grimm]

Originally posted by *KK*+May 10 2005, 11:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*KK* @ May 10 2005, 11:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@May 10 2005, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by *KK*@May 10 2005, 07:03 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-grimm@May 9 2005, 11:42 PM
is that what that was, i remember you were in a bunch of pain when i met you.
Nah, I've got some minor arthritis in c2-c4 that gives me grief on occasion, the rupture was totally unrelated... one minute I was in BC fly fishing and kayaking, the next day I was in unstoppable tears trying to get through the Vancouver airport to baggage claim.

Sciatic nerves are fuckers though. The only real way I can describe how it felt when it ruptured is something akin to having a line of meathooks run down your leg from your ass to your ankle, and someone trying to pull the muscles off the bone with them. :(
Ouch, that sounds about right. baggage claim? id have ended up killing someone:)



Im slowly learning the lesson that i am no longer 20 years old:)
I think you were 20 when I met you tho, right? ;) [/b][/quote]
23, i think:)

[Anthony]

Update:

Doc sent the MRI scans to a radiologist for further scrutiny.

It's a waiting game.

[Trev]

Fuck!

Crossing even more fingers now.

[Anthony]

Good News!

It's not a Herniated Disc! My L5 Disc is protruded from my mishap and has been causing havoc, impinging nerves and what not. Which explains the pain and numbness I've been having in my hands, arms, legs, feet, etc.

I cannot tell you how happy I am that it is not herniated. Though it will take some therapy to get me back to normal, I'm very, very, very happy.

I was told to take the rest of the week and stay in bed, to recover some more.

I will be wearing thick ass belts from now on for all my heavy lifts.

Thank you everyone for the positive thoughts and well wishes!

[Trev]

Excellent news :okthumb:


Still a bugger of a thing to have to go through, but it could have been so much worse.


Take it easy man :)

[TheEnforcer]

Glad to hear you are gonna be able to recover nicely Ant!! :)

[Vick]

Great to hear your good news Ant

[DrGuile]

Good news indeed!

[PornoDoggy]

Hope you take care of yourself and get to feelin' better soon - glad it's no more serious than it is.

When you get back to working out, make sure you very carefully work your way back up to where you were.

Figure out when you think you can start back up, then WAIT A WEEK before you start.

Figure out what you think you can handle, THEN TAKE 25% OFF that #.

I know more people who have turned a one-time injury into a long-term problem by jumping back in too quickly. Never been much for the gym, but my doctor once got a little testy with me for considering a fast-pitch softball tournament (5 games in 36 hours, basically) a "light workout" after I lost an argument with my hamstring.

[Winetalk.com]

yeah...but can you DRINK???? I'll bring some easy stuff for dinner tonite, just in case if you can't
:)

[Nickatilynx]

Awesome Anthony thats great news :)


And when you see Serge , please don't forget to pass on my message :)

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@May 11 2005, 04:00 PM
Awesome Anthony thats great news :)


And when you see Serge , please don't forget to pass on my message :)
is that another offer I can't refuse???

I am NOT selling WT!!!!
:)

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Winetalk.com+May 11 2005, 01:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Winetalk.com @ May 11 2005, 01:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@May 11 2005, 04:00 PM
Awesome Anthony thats great news :)


And when you see Serge , please don't forget to pass on my message :)
is that another offer I can't refuse???

I am NOT selling WT!!!!
:) [/b][/quote]

I don't fucking want it!!! ;-)))


oh..shit!!!!!

fuck!!!!!

Everytime we have this convo I end up buying some shit!!!!

[VooMan]

That's great news Anthony. Glad to hear it's not a major injury...

9 plates on each side of the machine?!?!! Jesus... I used a leg press machine once in my life. Never liked them at all. Reminded me of a guillotine...

[Newton]

Excellent news Anthony :) Get some decent rest man.

[*KK*]

Make sure you do what your doctor says Ant. Otherwise you'll find your ass laid up face down on a table with a 6 inch needle filled with cortisone in your spine. Not fun.

[Bestat]

Great news! Now Rest damnit! B)

[Peaches]

Good to hear, Ant :)

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by *KK*@May 11 2005, 02:04 PM
Make sure you do what your doctor says Ant. Otherwise you'll find your ass laid up face down on a table with a 6 inch needle filled with cortisone in your spine. Not fun.
You lying slut!!!!

You said you were loving it!!!!!!!


;-))))

Oh...my bad..I " skip read"

;-))

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@May 11 2005, 04:30 PM


I don't fucking want it!!! ;-)))


oh..shit!!!!!

fuck!!!!!

Everytime we have this convo I end up buying some shit!!!!
if you wanna buy a case of Grauad Larose, 1996 at decent price, I can tell you where..
:)

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Winetalk.com+May 11 2005, 04:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Winetalk.com @ May 11 2005, 04:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@May 11 2005, 04:30 PM


I don't fucking want it!!! ;-)))


oh..shit!!!!!

fuck!!!!!

Everytime we have this convo I end up buying some shit!!!!
if you wanna buy a case of Grauad Larose, 1996 at decent price, I can tell you where..
:) [/b][/quote]
Get the behind me Satan!!!!

;-)

[aeon]

I've watched pro bodybuilders work out and no one ever touches that kinda weight without wraps and a belt and spotters even on a machine. 805 Lbs is more than impressive. You're a strong sumbitch...but being strong and crippled doesn't do anyone any good.

I'm not gonna kick you when yer down at all so don't take this like that, but for shit shakes...use wraps and belts in the future and have spotters on either side of the machine if you still wanna play with that weight on presses and hack squats - with that kinda weight, yer knee's can only take so much.

Go heavy...go heavy on squats - with a spotter and a rack. 805 on a leg press to failure makes no sense.

[Peaches]

I will spot you the next time you lift 850 lbs, Anthony! :) (this just involves looking over and saying "Oh hey! I've spotted Anthony", right?)

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+May 11 2005, 07:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ May 11 2005, 07:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Winetalk.com@May 11 2005, 04:49 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@May 11 2005, 04:30 PM


I don't fucking want it!!! ;-)))


oh..shit!!!!!

fuck!!!!!

Everytime we have this convo I end up buying some shit!!!!
if you wanna buy a case of Grauad Larose, 1996 at decent price, I can tell you where..
:)
Get the behind me Satan!!!!

;-) [/b][/quote]
sorry, there is no more Baron Pichon Longueville, 1996
:(

[grimm]

Originally posted by aeon@May 11 2005, 04:56 PM
I've watched pro bodybuilders work out and no one ever touches that kinda weight without wraps and a belt and spotters even on a machine. 805 Lbs is more than impressive. You're a strong sumbitch...but being strong and crippled doesn't do anyone any good.

I'm not gonna kick you when yer down at all so don't take this like that, but for shit shakes...use wraps and belts in the future and have spotters on either side of the machine if you still wanna play with that weight on presses and hack squats - with that kinda weight, yer knee's can only take so much.

Go heavy...go heavy on squats - with a spotter and a rack. 805 on a leg press to failure makes no sense.
fuck 805 is too much. I rep at around 600. i wouldn't think of going over that because of my knee, and the fact that i most assuredly would have muscle failure at over 700.

[Steady]

Anthony, glad to hear your going to be OK! Take care! :)

[Anthony]

Thanks everyone. I even appreciate Aeon chiming in. :)

I am obsessive, to a fault. As promised a long time ago, pic taken funny enough, the day before I hurt myself.

http://tinypic.com/51zdp1

[RyanLanane]

Originally posted by Anthony@May 11 2005, 06:38 PM
Thanks everyone. I even appreciate Aeon chiming in. :)

I am obsessive, to a fault. As promised a long time ago, pic taken funny enough, the day before I hurt myself.

http://tinypic.com/51zdp1

Damn Anthony, glad to hear you're going to be O.K.

That is some serious weight you are lifting, I'm about ready to start on my Bow Flex here soon... It's amazing when you star working ut how great you feel within a month of working out 4 times a week lifting.

Unfortunately last time i lifted I was 18, LOL .... Since then most my heavy lifting was bottles of beer and rolling kegs in and out of my bar :D

At least you'll have more free time to .... work now for a bit lol ... so at least your pocket book should get larger ;)

[VooMan]

My sophomore year in college I used to work out with a friend of mine from the dorm. We each weighed about 150 pounds. A couple of real pencil necks. I could bench press about 205 and thought that was pretty good for my size...

The first time I worked out with this guy he asked me to spot him bench pressing 340. I was like "what?!?!?! what the fuck am I gonna do to help?!?!?!" hahaha

[Dravyk]

Glad things turned out not to be major, Ant!!!

But like everyone has said, take it easy and err on the side of caution.

[grimm]

Originally posted by VooMan@May 11 2005, 08:13 PM
My sophomore year in college I used to work out with a friend of mine from the dorm. We each weighed about 150 pounds. A couple of real pencil necks. I could bench press about 205 and thought that was pretty good for my size...

The first time I worked out with this guy he asked me to spot him bench pressing 340. I was like "what?!?!?! what the fuck am I gonna do to help?!?!?!" hahaha
205 is pretty damn good for 150 lbs:)


Anthony... this means you have to stop the rough gay sex for at least ten days!:)

[Anthony]

Originally posted by grimm+May 12 2005, 04:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ May 12 2005, 04:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-VooMan@May 11 2005, 08:13 PM
My sophomore year in college I used to work out with a friend of mine from the dorm. We each weighed about 150 pounds. A couple of real pencil necks. I could bench press about 205 and thought that was pretty good for my size...

The first time I worked out with this guy he asked me to spot him bench pressing 340. I was like "what?!?!?! what the fuck am I gonna do to help?!?!?!" hahaha
205 is pretty damn good for 150 lbs:)


Anthony... this means you have to stop the rough gay sex for at least ten days!:) [/b][/quote]
Yah, no ass pounding for me!

[VooMan]

Originally posted by grimm@May 12 2005, 07:00 PM

205 is pretty damn good for 150 lbs:)


Thanks Grimm, my self esteem is restored. :)

[grimm]

Originally posted by VooMan+May 12 2005, 06:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VooMan @ May 12 2005, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-grimm@May 12 2005, 07:00 PM

205 is pretty damn good for 150 lbs:)


Thanks Grimm, my self esteem is restored. :) [/b][/quote]
Anything i can do to help bro:)

[Raven]

I figured I'd wait to hear the news before commenting, Anthony. I'm glad to hear you'll recover, well, as long as you're smart about it..and, you're a smart guy. Don't expect healing to be immediate..these things take a long time....

Since you already have pretty strong back muscles, there's a good probability that it was to your advantage...so, good for you.

That sciatic pain reminds me of a high pitched drill the dentists use, screaming all the way down.....beating to a rhythm of its own...those cortisone shots....ow.....

The only thing I can add to this is : AVOID SURGERY. Once you get on that surgical merry go round, you never get off.

Glad the news is positive.