Epoch Loses Processing.

[Anal Gaper]

The Sky ain't falling , but that fucking brick really fucking hurt!

First we have IBILL loosing their account, now word on the street is that EPOCH has, no, it's not a rumour.

What's gonna happen now?

[Raven]

Well, what IS the word on the street, according to you?

And, who are you?

[gonzo]

I saw Rand trolling thru here last night. Wonder if he wants to make a direct comment on this here?

My ICQ just lit up with this thread link. A lot of people just got nervous about their processing.

Rand?

[Evil Chris]

misinformation.... will it ever end... <_<

'scuse me while I go empty my epassporte account now. :lol:

[Raven]

Rand has posted about this.

[Winetalk.com]

if this happens,
the wine sales will soar, as every webmaster be looking for the ways to drown their sorrows...

Join WT NOW,
we'll tell you waht to buy!
;)

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Raven@Feb 18 2005, 12:42 PM
Rand has posted about this.
I dont believe anything I read on the Zoo.

[JR]

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[TheEnforcer]

Any more details that might make this a little more believeable other than just coming here and tossing it out blindly on your first post here? If some of the people who replied in the thread had started it then it might have at least some credibility to it.

[grimm]

Originally posted by Winetalk.com@Feb 18 2005, 09:50 AM
if this happens,
the wine sales will soar, as every webmaster be looking for the ways to drown their sorrows...

Join WT NOW,
we'll tell you waht to buy!
;)
anybody use the 15 point system on mad dog 20/20 yet?:)

[Anthony]

What are your sources?

[JoesHO]

Shit I hope this is not true, we just bought an epoch account wioth a paysite we purchased !!!

( we have our current processors though)
but things are getting scary ...if this is true why did they lose it?

no need to give me your source, but tell me what the reasoning you were ofered was? that way we can deduce from there as to the validity of the merrits

[Biggy]

Originally posted by JoesHO1@Feb 18 2005, 10:13 AM
Shit I hope this is not true, we just bought an epoch account wioth a paysite we purchased !!!

( we have our current processors though)
but things are getting scary ...if this is true why did they lose it?

no need to give me your source, but tell me what the reasoning you were ofered was? that way we can deduce from there as to the validity of the merrits
dont believe rumors.

look at #1 - his name: anal gaper
look at #2 - his post count: 1.

[Penrod]

I tried going to WineTalk but looks like the site is down????

[rand]

Anal Gaper? Nice first post.

I can't beleive I'm really here to answer this quesiton.

Let me see if I can explain it to you.

NO. EPOCH HAS NOT LOST IT'S MERCHANT ACCOUNT.

Tell the guy that gave you the information that he's a lying asshole.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Penrod@Feb 18 2005, 01:21 PM
I tried going to WineTalk but looks like the site is down????
yes, it is, we are getting over 2000 visitors an hour and they download their free gifts...

[Raven]

Originally posted by gonzo+Feb 18 2005, 09:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Feb 18 2005, 09:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Raven@Feb 18 2005, 12:42 PM
Rand has posted about this.
I dont believe anything I read on the Zoo. [/b][/quote]
I was referring to my board, sweets.

And, now Rand has posted here, so life is good?

[Dante]

anal gaper = ibill

you guys need to quit the shit talking when

a) you spot an opportunity to disparage your (cough cough) competition

B) you are publically pushed against the wall due to your lack of paying out to most webmasters and you want to distract the negative attention


it is a desperate and very transparent move, i mean, do you think that people will keep quiet about who started the rumor???

[Winetalk.com]

hey, Rand, can you put link to http://winetalk.com on EPassport?

I'll link back to you on WT...
THIS way EVERYBODY know that Epoch is doing FINE!
;)

[Nickatilynx]

Oh look..I'm in a theatre...

FIRE!!!!!

[Winetalk.com]

Nick,
you are making fun of people having heart attacks!

this is not right!

[Anal Gaper]

Originally posted by rand@Feb 18 2005, 10:21 AM
Anal Gaper? Nice first post.

I can't beleive I'm really here to answer this quesiton.

Let me see if I can explain it to you.

NO. EPOCH HAS NOT LOST IT'S MERCHANT ACCOUNT.

Tell the guy that gave you the information that he's a lying asshole.

Your statement is true.

You have not lost it yet.

But you do in 30 days.

You received 90 day notice from Visa in December.

Is that correct ?

Or will you deny it ?

[Pornkings Dave]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 18 2005, 10:41 AM
Oh look..I'm in a theatre...

FIRE!!!!!
Excellent way to sum up the last 24hrs

[gigi]

I'd say 'sig spot'....but, I don't have a promotional sig....so, I'll just move towards the fire exits. ;)

[Oystein]

I just got the Oprano "newsletter" where this thread was featured on top.

**

"LATE BREAKING NEWS:

Trouble ahead? Is Epoch losing their merchant account?
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?showtopic=16724

Oprano Newsletter
Volume 4 February 17, 2005"

**

I am cancelling the newsletter until more serious editorials are sent out.

:angry:

PS. STUPID

[Winetalk.com]

Oynstein,
why Norwegian women are so beautiful and Norwegian men are not?

[Nickatilynx]

OK...

This is the simplest thing...


Rand,

Are you aware of any events that may have happened with regard to Epoch/Paycom that may in any way adversely effect webmasters?

[Winetalk.com]

Rand, and while you are at it,
why is WT server down?

[Oystein]

Originally posted by Winetalk.com@Feb 18 2005, 11:09 AM
Oynstein,
why Norwegian women are so beautiful and Norwegian men are not?
Not sure. But who cares, I am not going after the Norwegian men.

:groucho:

[JoesHO]

Again to be redundant!

What are the reasons for the 90 day notice from visa ( if true) if not true then will someone say outloud " NOT TRUE"

as far as this thread, can the thread starter please list the reasons for cancellation that were provided to him/her or was it just a simple "hey pssst come here and believe this?" without any form of proof offered up at all?

I mean this is not something for anyone to take lightly on all fronts ...

a.) if rumors then lets kill the messanger
b.) if true then why let everyone lose their money ( ala Ibill) just to save face? I mean at this point with the denials would that not constitute criminal actions? outright deception?

and if we as a group do not band together to quash inuendo, how many of us will have to suffer from it ?

I mean if this is pure rumor, and Epoch ( via rand here ) or any of their reps come and " as a matter of factly" outright deny this allegation then should we focuse on finding out who the " deepthroat" here is and burn them at the stake ?

and if Epoch is unwilling to come and not just say we did not lose it yet , but that we have never been given a notice from visa, and we are not slated to lose our merchant bank in 30 days, should we dig a little deeper to protect our brethren?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Oystein+Feb 18 2005, 02:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Oystein @ Feb 18 2005, 02:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Winetalk.com@Feb 18 2005, 11:09 AM
Oynstein,
why Norwegian women are so beautiful and Norwegian men are not?
Not sure. But who cares, I am not going after the Norwegian men.

:groucho: [/b][/quote]
aren't you curious?

I am...and while you are at it,
why WT server is down?

[drmsystems]

im going to go run with scissors now

[Winetalk.com]

People, you and your pity problems...

Epoch, Shmapoch...

My server is down and I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM!

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Oystein+Feb 18 2005, 11:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Oystein @ Feb 18 2005, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Winetalk.com@Feb 18 2005, 11:09 AM
Oynstein,
why Norwegian women are so beautiful and Norwegian men are not?
Not sure. But who cares, I am not going after the Norwegian men.

:groucho: [/b][/quote]
sticking to Frenchmen?

:yowsa:

:D

:groucho:

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by drmsystems@Feb 18 2005, 02:14 PM
im going to go run with scissors now
are you the one who cut our cable?
I could have sworn it was confucy!

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Oystein@Feb 18 2005, 11:08 AM
I just got the Oprano "newsletter" where this thread was featured on top.

**

"LATE BREAKING NEWS:

Trouble ahead? Is Epoch losing their merchant account?
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?showtopic=16724

Oprano Newsletter
Volume 4 February 17, 2005"

**

I am cancelling the newsletter until more serious editorials are sent out.

:angry:

PS. STUPID
Just a wild guess.........

Did you ever work at Epoch?

;-)))))

[JoesHO]

Originally posted by Winetalk.com@Feb 18 2005, 11:15 AM
People, you and your pity problems...

Epoch, Shmapoch...

My server is down and I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM!
I can provide you a good link to a hosting company if you would like :D

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by JoesHO1+Feb 18 2005, 02:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JoesHO1 @ Feb 18 2005, 02:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Winetalk.com@Feb 18 2005, 11:15 AM
People, you and your pity problems...

Epoch, Shmapoch...

My server is down and I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM!
I can provide you a good link to a hosting company if you would like :D [/b][/quote]
fuck all hosting companies!

My server is down and we are losing 2000 visitors an hour
;(

Winetalk was mentioned in French Press yesterday with full URL..
they blame us for their destruction of 266,000,000 bottles of wine.

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Oystein@Feb 18 2005, 02:08 PM
I just got the Oprano "newsletter" where this thread was featured on top.

**

"LATE BREAKING NEWS:

Trouble ahead? Is Epoch losing their merchant account?
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?showtopic=16724

Oprano Newsletter
Volume 4 February 17, 2005"

**

I am cancelling the newsletter until more serious editorials are sent out.

:angry:

PS. STUPID
Wahhhh

What a loss. Why dont you cancel you user id over here as well? You only come over here to spam anyways.

DOS TIP... The Zoo is for Drama Queens.

[*KK*]

Let's just say that I have it in writing, from 3 different sources, that IBill was the direct source of this rumor.

Once from a former employee, once from a former client, and once from a non-client.

All three of these people received telephone calls from people that either work at IBill right or have had a sufficient stake in things there at one point or another to qualify as coming straight out of Deerfield Beach.

It's no big secret that for the last couple of years there has been no love lost between IBill and Paycom. The extent of the "feud" goes far beyond what most people would imagine, much less believe.

These things are fact. If someone at IBill would like to send me a certified notice of a problem with what I have said, drop me an email and I'll give you an address for service. Just remember that I have no problem backing up my comments since they are in writing. I'm sure the adult community would enjoy the ensuing circus.

[JoesHO]

I LOVE Norwegian women BTW :rokk:

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by *KK*@Feb 18 2005, 11:26 AM
Let's just say that I have it in writing, from 3 different sources, that IBill was the direct source of this rumor.

Once from a former employee, once from a former client, and once from a non-client.

All three of these people received telephone calls from people that either work at IBill right or have had a sufficient stake in things there at one point or another to qualify as coming straight out of Deerfield Beach.

It's no big secret that for the last couple of years there has been no love lost between IBill and Paycom. The extent of the "feud" goes far beyond what most people would imagine, much less believe.

These things are fact. If someone at IBill would like to send me a certified notice of a problem with what I have said, drop me an email and I'll give you an address for service. Just remember that I have no problem backing up my comments since they are in writing. I'm sure the adult community would enjoy the ensuing circus.
Interesting post Kimmy...very interesting...so you are saying categorically..

HIDDEN AGENDA!


for me , then , if this question is answered , I'm totally satisfied ,
Rand,

Are you aware of any events that may have happened with regard to Epoch/Paycom that may in any way adversely effect webmasters?

[rand]

OK. Now we know where Deep Throat lives (thank you Kimmy Kim). Let's attach a name or names to that message and send out the firing squad.

FOR THE RECORD:

1) Epoch has not lost its merchant account.
2) Epoch has not received a notice from its banks or anyone else including Visa that anything is changing.
3) Everything in terms of Epoch's operations is status quo.
4) There are no fines, fees, notices, etc.... NONE!

Now somebody please go find the liar who is spreading these rumors and shove his head down his throat?

And Nick, please see your email.

[*KK*]

At this point I wouldn't call it hidden even. I'm sorry that IBill got themselves into the spot they are in. I have always been supportive of ANY billing company that was legitimately running transactions since I think that the more billers there are, the more safe we are as an industry.

Of course there is also karma, and when I mention that this feud got out of hand on occasion, I guess what comes around goes around.

I'll give CCBill kudos here, the marketing plan has never involved dissing the competition, but providing a product and service and minding their own business.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally posted by Oystein@Feb 18 2005, 11:08 AM
I just got the Oprano "newsletter" where this thread was featured on top.

**

"LATE BREAKING NEWS:

Trouble ahead? Is Epoch losing their merchant account?
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?showtopic=16724

Oprano Newsletter
Volume 4 February 17, 2005"

**

I am cancelling the newsletter until more serious editorials are sent out.

:angry:

PS. STUPID
Yes, I got that too...and being the snappy little journalist that I am, I scampered right over to see what the news was.

Imagine my surprise when it turned out to be insurgents!

seems people are a little edgy on this topic, eh?

[Winetalk.com]

OK, WT is up, so now I can talk about Epoch

Rand, if I were you, I'd subpoeana the Oprano records and persue the mofo who is spreading false rumors about your company.

[*KK*]

Originally posted by Winetalk.com@Feb 18 2005, 11:39 AM
OK, WT is up, so now I can talk about Epoch

Rand, if I were you, I'd subpoeana the Oprano records and persue the mofo who is spreading false rumors about your company.
That's not the only place I'd send a subpoena ;)

[EmporerEJ]

Oh, and where's the big guy with the donuts?
I'm hungry.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by *KK*+Feb 18 2005, 02:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*KK* @ Feb 18 2005, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Winetalk.com@Feb 18 2005, 11:39 AM
OK, WT is up, so now I can talk about Epoch

Rand, if I were you, I'd subpoeana the Oprano records and persue the mofo who is spreading false rumors about your company.
That's not the only place I'd send a subpoena ;) [/b][/quote]
KK, I know....Bush is going to Europe and he is taking subpoeana on WT's behalf to depose French winemakers who blame us for their troubles.

[*KK*]

Those damn Frenchmen ;)

[Dravyk]

Hidden (and not so hidden) agendas in this industry! .... Astounding. Not.

Does make for good theater, though. And good theater sales too apparently: "22 User(s) are reading this topic"

[Forest]

I wish i could get epass to fix the problem ticket(s) i have called cs about

rand if your reading this maybe u can help

4 calls to cs and still no solution

tkt # 23077

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by rand@Feb 18 2005, 11:38 AM
OK. Now we know where Deep Throat lives (thank you Kimmy Kim). Let's attach a name or names to that message and send out the firing squad.

FOR THE RECORD:

1) Epoch has not lost its merchant account.
2) Epoch has not received a notice from its banks or anyone else including Visa that anything is changing.
3) Everything in terms of Epoch's operations is status quo.
4) There are no fines, fees, notices, etc.... NONE!

Now somebody please go find the liar who is spreading these rumors and shove his head down his throat?

And Nick, please see your email.
Well your word is certainly good enough for me , Rand.

This matter as far as I'm concerned is now closed.

We are not responsible for content but in this day and age , with the problems concerning Ibill any suggestion of something like this needs to be brought to the attention of webmasters and brought out to the front so it can be quashed as ably as Epoch/Paycom/Rand have done so.

Hence why we notified our members of this matter.

We shall now send a mail to our members stating that this rumour is unfounded and was nipped in the bud by Rand.

for me it ends now...

Oprano is about business.

And in this case a scurilous rumour was brought out into the open and dealt with.

That is IMHO the only way to deal with such matters.

You heard it here :


There are no problems at Epoch

This matter and the thread , is now closed.