Crescent / High Society / Gambino

[Nickatilynx]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6928696/

[Almighty Colin]

*cough* No comment

[Nickatilynx]

Luke Ford,

You are a cunt.

[gonzo]

I nominate Luke Ford as dickhead #2!

[TheEnforcer]

Maybe I'm not remembering something I should but how does Luke Ford fit into this?

[DrGuile]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 14 2005, 10:11 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6928696/
your name isnt even mentioned.... you must be disapointed ;)

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by DrGuile+Feb 14 2005, 08:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DrGuile @ Feb 14 2005, 08:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Feb 14 2005, 10:11 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6928696/
your name isnt even mentioned.... you must be disapointed ;) [/b][/quote]
ahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha


:)

[Anthony]

Originally posted by DrGuile+Feb 14 2005, 08:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DrGuile @ Feb 14 2005, 08:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Feb 14 2005, 10:11 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6928696/
your name isnt even mentioned.... you must be disapointed ;) [/b][/quote]
Let me answer that by saying.

What the fuck are you talking about?

:blink:

[Anthony]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Feb 14 2005, 08:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Feb 14 2005, 08:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by DrGuile@Feb 14 2005, 08:03 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Feb 14 2005, 10:11 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6928696/
your name isnt even mentioned.... you must be disapointed ;)
ahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha


:) [/b][/quote]
Errr...

National Car Buying days were nice.

To this day, I kick myself in the ass for not getting the Mercedes E55 AMG.

I can't complain, you gave me the Viper instead.

Remember when the new SL500's came out. Salesmen we got 5 Benz's from goes, this iis the SL, it is triple black, blah blah blah, it does blah blah blah. We say, "Fine, we'll take this one".

Sorry, you can't have this one, there's a 9 months wait.

We almost killed him for giving us the hardon for it and telling us we had to wait.


Damn, good times!

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Anthony+Feb 14 2005, 08:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anthony @ Feb 14 2005, 08:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 14 2005, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by DrGuile@Feb 14 2005, 08:03 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Feb 14 2005, 10:11 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6928696/
your name isnt even mentioned.... you must be disapointed ;)
ahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha


:)
Errr...

National Car Buying days were nice.

To this day, I kick myself in the ass for not getting the Mercedes E55 AMG.

I can't complain, you gave me the Viper instead.

Remember when the new SL500's came out. Salesmen we got 5 Benz's from goes, this iis the SL, it is triple black, blah blah blah, it does blah blah blah. We say, "Fine, we'll take this one".

Sorry, you can't have this one, there's a 9 months wait.

We almost killed him for giving us the hardon for it and telling us we had to wait.


Damn, good times! [/b][/quote]
I think the guy was worried that we were gonna beat him to death. :)

Good times....

LOL

[grimm]

Originally posted by Almighty Colin@Feb 14 2005, 07:13 PM
*cough* No comment
wong numba, wong numba, jimmy no live here!

[grimm]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Feb 14 2005, 08:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Feb 14 2005, 08:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by DrGuile@Feb 14 2005, 08:03 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Feb 14 2005, 10:11 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6928696/
your name isnt even mentioned.... you must be disapointed ;)
ahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha


:) [/b][/quote]
yeah, for shame:)

[sarettah]

Fuck, I missed this thread and posted a new thread on the same subject....

Dammit, I hate when I do that................. :headwall: :headwall:

[sarettah]

On a related note, I know where a state of the art data center might be had for a discounted price...........


http://www.itelonline.com/about/datacenter.html

[JoesHO]

anybody got a picture of Luke ford?

I mean I was alwasy of the school of thought, if you go hiking in woods, it is best to be able to identiyfy the poisonous snakes from the non poisonous species

( I am not ofering any opinion on the specifics of the merrits of this particular situation)

I am just realizing that as is always the case, the reporters look for the bad and the drama, over the normal practices of business ( as they know it will sell more) and I want to know who the Papparazzi are and who the true business reporters are. :D

[sarettah]

http://www.americansexsites.com/lukeford.jpg
http://www.americansexsites.com/luke.jpg

[RawAlex]

Had to drop in for this. Apparently Gonzo still hasn't removed my account here.

According to Luke Ford, a pioneer blogger and keen observer of the Internet porn scene, the scheme was able to roll up such huge numbers because of deals Crescent made with two Internet traffic brokers — Serge Birbrair and Yishai Habari — that resulted in millions of porn-seeking surfers a day being directed to the sites.

“Yishai and Serge made millions off the scam and escaped FTC prosecution because they only functioned as traffic brokers,” Ford wrote on his Web site.

Neither Birbrair nor Habari responded to e-mail requests for comment.

This may be the one time in serge's life he had nothing to say.

Have a nice one, I am out of here.

Alex

[Bishop]

All I remember is a banner of a guy sitting on a toilet.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by RawAlex@Feb 15 2005, 11:20 AM
Had to drop in for this. Apparently Gonzo still hasn't removed my account here.

According to Luke Ford, a pioneer blogger and keen observer of the Internet porn scene, the scheme was able to roll up such huge numbers because of deals Crescent made with two Internet traffic brokers — Serge Birbrair and Yishai Habari — that resulted in millions of porn-seeking surfers a day being directed to the sites.

“Yishai and Serge made millions off the scam and escaped FTC prosecution because they only functioned as traffic brokers,” Ford wrote on his Web site.

Neither Birbrair nor Habari responded to e-mail requests for comment.

This may be the one time in serge's life he had nothing to say.

Have a nice one, I am out of here.

Alex
We all restrained ourself. Alex couldn't. No surprise.

[JoesHO]

Originally posted by RawAlex@Feb 15 2005, 08:20 AM
Had to drop in for this. Apparently Gonzo still hasn't removed my account here.

According to Luke Ford, a pioneer blogger and keen observer of the Internet porn scene, the scheme was able to roll up such huge numbers because of deals Crescent made with two Internet traffic brokers — Serge Birbrair and Yishai Habari — that resulted in millions of porn-seeking surfers a day being directed to the sites.

“Yishai and Serge made millions off the scam and escaped FTC prosecution because they only functioned as traffic brokers,” Ford wrote on his Web site.

Neither Birbrair nor Habari responded to e-mail requests for comment.

This may be the one time in serge's life he had nothing to say.

Have a nice one, I am out of here.

Alex
Why should Serge have anything to say? The article CLEARLY STATED he was innocent in any dealings, as he was just a business man selling traffic

I mean if fantasyman can be duped by "the butcher" then why is it hard for you to fathom Serge was duped, and Luke just included his name as inuendo wich apperantly runs prevalent in this business ?

[Nickatilynx]

What a bunch of hypocritical cunts this business breeds LOL

Serge is brought into the article by Luke Ford.

Because that dickless cunt Ford needs attention and he is nothing and will always be nothing and lives in abject envy of those who are smart , talented , gifted and want a better life for themselves and there family.

He would much rather bitch and whine about his failure of a life than go out and actually make something of it.

Well I part owned Traffic Inc which became the biggest click broker after Serge retired

Cresent paid me a fortune.

I admit it.I'm not a snivelling hypocrite.

I thank my friend Serge for puttting me in touch with them. I sent them traffic , lots of it too.Whatever they did with it was their business.

As far as I'm concerned they paid on time and very very well.I think excess of a million per month some months.I found them to be very professional.

Here is the interesting point....

I thought my rivals at the time were 12 Clicks and Brad ?
I thought they also got paid by Cresent?

In fact , I remeber getting a call from them to stop sending traffic to Serge (whilst Serge was on holiday , even then they had to stab in the back ) ,and for me to send traffic to them as they would pay better.

I told them then , and I would tell them now...

"I'm happy where I am"

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by RawAlex@Feb 15 2005, 11:20 AM


This may be the one time in serge's life he had nothing to say.

Have a nice one, I am out of here.

Alex
hmmm...I said that the biggest traffic we recived was from Raw Alex and presented the scans of the cashed checks...

I also took the liberty of posting your mug with the check from us on
http://winetalk.com
use Search Engine,
it's RawAlex.JPG

Royal Mountain Police is now probably taping your phone....

You can run, RawAlex, but you can't hide....
all your URL's you were sending traffic to are now in the cyber vault:
http://cotac.com/serge/
what the heck have you done with the money???? RCMP wants to know...

[DrGuile]

Originally posted by JoesHO1@Feb 15 2005, 12:06 PM
I mean if fantasyman can be duped by "the butcher" then why is it hard for you to fathom Serge was duped, and Luke just included his name as inuendo wich apperantly runs prevalent in this business ?
ahahahah, now this is priceless.... too funny..... oh man....

[Phoenix]

i may still be wet behind the ears, but who the hell is luke ford? I imagine he is getting paid by the mainstream press to offer up names on people doing this or that.


I can smell a rat..i hope nobody is paying for the asshat to be around

[grimm]

Originally posted by DrGuile+Feb 15 2005, 09:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DrGuile @ Feb 15 2005, 09:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JoesHO1@Feb 15 2005, 12:06 PM
I mean if fantasyman can be duped by "the butcher" then why is it hard for you to fathom Serge was duped, and Luke just included his name as inuendo wich apperantly runs prevalent in this business ?
ahahahah, now this is priceless.... too funny..... oh man.... [/b][/quote]
hmm.. serge can be many things, but duped is not one of them. he's a smart man, well insulated:)

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Phoenix@Feb 15 2005, 09:19 AM
i may still be wet behind the ears, but who the hell is luke ford? I imagine he is getting paid by the mainstream press to offer up names on people doing this or that.


I can smell a rat..i hope nobody is paying for the asshat to be around
He is a wannabee writer.

Writes gossip about the adult industry.

He is a whore.

I hired him at Netpond for a while.But as everyone eventually learns..he brings nothing.

[grimm]

i just saw the movie sideways last night

so luke ford would be A

"thumbprint on the first-floor window of a skyscraper, a smudge of excrement on a tissue surging out to sea along with millions of tons of raw sewage."

;)

a dickless wonder who would get more mainstream publicity from shooting himself (at least them he gets in the mainsteam obituaries), than from anything he actually tries to do to get such publicity. Just another blogger, though this one with a serious Napoleon complex.

[grimm]

a discarded plastic bag thinking it controls the wind which blows it around;)

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by grimm+Feb 15 2005, 09:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Feb 15 2005, 09:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by DrGuile@Feb 15 2005, 09:17 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-JoesHO1@Feb 15 2005, 12:06 PM
I mean if fantasyman can be duped by "the butcher" then why is it hard for you to fathom Serge was duped, and Luke just included his name as inuendo wich apperantly runs prevalent in this business ?
ahahahah, now this is priceless.... too funny..... oh man....
hmm.. serge can be many things, but duped is not one of them. he's a smart man, well insulated:) [/b][/quote]
So.....


Who DIDN'T either directly or indirectly send traffic to High Society?

Any fucking "Playa" in that era did.

Why?

Cause it paid really really well.

Jet , he who is without sin cast the first stone.

;-))

[grimm]

an abscess allowed to fester overnight on the internet.

ok you probably get the point:)

[grimm]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Feb 15 2005, 09:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Feb 15 2005, 09:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@Feb 15 2005, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by DrGuile@Feb 15 2005, 09:17 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-JoesHO1@Feb 15 2005, 12:06 PM
I mean if fantasyman can be duped by "the butcher" then why is it hard for you to fathom Serge was duped, and Luke just included his name as inuendo wich apperantly runs prevalent in this business ?
ahahahah, now this is priceless.... too funny..... oh man....
hmm.. serge can be many things, but duped is not one of them. he's a smart man, well insulated:)
So.....


Who DIDN'T either directly or indirectly send traffic to High Society?

Any fucking "Playa" in that era did.

Why?

Cause it paid really really well.

Jet , he who is without sin cast the first stone.

;-)) [/b][/quote]
glass houses:)

[Phoenix]

Grimm..you paint the picture well...lol

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by grimm@Feb 15 2005, 09:27 AM


;)

a dickless wonder who would get more mainstream publicity from shooting himself (at least them he gets in the mainsteam obituaries), than from anything he actually tries to do to get such publicity. Just another blogger, though this one with a serious Napoleon complex.
Perfect! :)

I so hope one day he does go for the REAL publicity.





I see you lurking Luke Ford you peice of shit...

[grimm]

heh i try to keep my journalistic integrity;)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:ph34r:

[sarettah]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 15 2005, 12:32 PM
Who DIDN'T either directly or indirectly send traffic to High Society?

Me......

:yowsa:

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Winetalk.com+Feb 15 2005, 12:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Winetalk.com @ Feb 15 2005, 12:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RawAlex@Feb 15 2005, 11:20 AM


This may be the one time in serge's life he had nothing to say.

Have a nice one, I am out of here.

Alex
hmmm...I said that the biggest traffic we recived was from Raw Alex and presented the scans of the cashed checks...

I also took the liberty of posting your mug with the check from us on
http://winetalk.com
use Search Engine,
it's RawAlex.JPG

Royal Mountain Police is now probably taping your phone....

You can run, RawAlex, but you can't hide....
all your URL's you were sending traffic to are now in the cyber vault:
http://cotac.com/serge/
what the heck have you done with the money???? RCMP wants to know... [/b][/quote]
Alex is a hypocritical bitch. Once he was blasting people on Netpond for using some teen sounding words to sell their site; saying it made then sound like they were selling child porn.

Then someone dug up a whole network of teen sites Alex had that did the same thing. His reply? "I am in the process of changing them".

[Almighty Colin]

Welcome to 2000. We all knew this 4 years ago!

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/08/crescent.htm

For Release: August 23, 2000

Playgirl Web Site Faces FTC Charges

Thousands of Consumers Illegally Billed for "Free Tours" Promoted by Sites

The owners and operators of www.playgirl.com, www.highsociety.com and scores of other adult Web sites have been charged by the Federal Trade Commission with illegally billing thousands of consumers for services that were advertised as "free," and for billing other consumers who never visited the Web sites at all. The FTC and the New York Attorney General have filed suit in U.S. District Court seeking to halt the illegal billing practices and have asked the Court to freeze the defendants' assets, pending trial, to provide for consumer redress.

New York City-based Crescent Publishing Group, Inc., its owner, Bruce Chew, and principal David Bernstein, are named as defendants in the federal court complaint detailing the charges, along with 64 affiliated corporations that operate the adult entertainment Web sites. According to the complaint, the "Free Tour Web Sites" generated income of $188 million between 1997 and October 1999 -- $141 million of which was generated in the first 10 months of 1999 alone.

According to the complaint, the defendants operate scores of adult entertainment Web sites, promoting them as "free." The "Free Tour Web Sites" claim that consumers' credit card numbers are required solely to prove that the consumers are of legal age to view the adult material, and that the credit cards will not be billed. But thousands of consumers were charged recurring monthly membership fees ranging from $20 to $90, the complaint says. Consumers who tried to dispute the charges were met with a variety of barriers designed by the defendants to thwart their efforts. According to the complaint, the defendants use billing names different than the names of the Web sites, so consumers often had no idea who was billing them or why. Moreover, consumers often had difficulty the contacting defendants to get refunds from information provided to them on their billing statement.

According to the joint FTC/ New York A.G. complaint, the defendants routinely change corporate billing names and merchant banks in an attempt to avoid the fraud detection systems of credit card organizations such as Visa U.S.A. When it realized what the defendants were doing, Visa U.S.A. disqualified them from using its credit card system. The defendants moved their merchant banking relationship to Guatemala, adopted several new merchant names, and continued to process credit card transactions.

The FTC and the New York Attorney General allege that Crescent and its principals have violated the FTC Act and New York state law. They have asked the Court to halt the deceptive and unfair practices, to appoint a receiver to oversee the businesses and to freeze the defendants' assets pending trial to preserve them for consumer redress.

The Commission vote to file the complaint was 5-0.

The complaint was filed August 23, 2000 in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.

[nlphoto]

The funny thing is, on most of those sites, the most content that was on the
site was the content on the banners themselves... much of it my content.
I sold those to Yishai for a flat licensing fee. Should have asked for
a percentage of sales, or leased the images to him... :headwall:

[Biggy]

I remember Tukhman telling me way way back in the day with his old freehosts he used to send all his traffic to Yishai.

Its interesting how things play out over time.

[TheEnforcer]

Guess I should have dug a little deeper as I just glanced at the page. Whoops.... :unsure: