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Almighty Colin
02-07-2005, 12:46 PM
See last sentence ...

PlayStation 3 chip to be unveiled
Close-up of PlayStation 2 console, Sony
The successor to the PlayStation 2 will be launched in 2006
Details of the chip designed to power Sony's PlayStation 3 console will be released in San Francisco on Monday.

Sony, IBM and Toshiba, who have been working on the Cell processor for three years, will unveil the chip at a technology conference.

The chip is reported to be up to 10 times faster than current processors.

It is being designed for use in graphics workstations, the new PlayStation console, and has been described as a supercomputer on a chip.

Sony has said the Cell processor could be used to bridge the gap between movies and video games.

Special effects and graphics designed for films could be ported for use directly in a video game, Sony told an audience at the E3 exhibition in Los Angeles last year.

'Ideal technology'

Cell could also be marketed as an ideal technology for televisions and supercomputers, and everything in between, said Kevin Krewell, the editor in chief of Microprocessor Report.

The chip will be made of several different processing cores that work on tasks together.

The PlayStation 3 is expected in 2006 but developers are expecting to get prototypes early next year to tune games that will appear on it at launch.

Details of the chip will be released at the International Solid State Circuits Conference in San Francisco.

Some details have already emerged, however.

When put inside powerful computer servers, the Cell consortium expects it to be capable of handling 16 trillion floating point operations, or calculations, every second, if multiple Cell chips were used together.

Detailed graphics

The chip has also been refined to be able to handle the detailed graphics common in games and the data demands of films and broadband media.

IBM said it would start producing the chip in early 2005 at manufacturing plants in the US. The first machines off the line using the Cell processor will be computer workstations and servers.

A working version of the PS3 is due to be shown off in May 2005 but a full launch of the next generation console is not expected to start until 2006.

"In the future, all forms of digital content will be converged and fused onto the broadband network," said Ken Kutaragi, chief operating officer of Sony, said last year.

"Current PC architecture is nearing its limits," he added.

Newton
02-07-2005, 01:00 PM
http://www.kurzweilai.net/ rocks! I miss omni ..

DrGuile
02-07-2005, 01:37 PM
that article says a big zero about what it is...


Here's a little more meat about the cell chip:

http://www.theregister.com/2005/02/01/cell...lysis_part_one/ (http://www.theregister.com/2005/02/01/cell_analysis_part_one/)

Almighty Colin
02-07-2005, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Newton@Feb 7 2005, 01:01 PM
http://www.kurzweilai.net/ rocks! I miss omni ..
Bookmarked. I'll check that out later. I read one of Kurzweil's books.

DrGuile
02-07-2005, 01:47 PM
From that article, Im not convinced of anything...


also, there are much more important news to consider....
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/07/caffeine_beer/

Opti
02-07-2005, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Almighty Colin@Feb 8 2005, 03:47 AM
"Current PC architecture is nearing its limits," he added.

Why is PC architecture nearing it's limits?
In general.. i would throw in suggestion that current PC architechure is close to the end of its useful life... as we wont be wanting what we currently know as "PC"s for that much longer.

And technically, it probably isn't flexible enough for basing a set of standards upon for a future where we will expect our car alarm key button (or any other electronic device) to have ability to transfer information between itself, your car, your phone, your computer or whatever.

Almighty Colin
02-07-2005, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Opti+Feb 7 2005, 04:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Opti @ Feb 7 2005, 04:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Almighty Colin@Feb 8 2005, 03:47 AM
"Current PC architecture is nearing its limits," he added.

Why is PC architecture nearing it's limits?
In general.. i would throw in suggestion that current PC architechure is close to the end of its useful life... as we wont be wanting what we currently know as "PC"s for that much longer.

And technically, it probably isn't flexible enough for basing a set of standards upon for a future where we will expect our car alarm key button (or any other electronic device) to have ability to transfer information between itself, your car, your phone, your computer or whatever. [/b][/quote]
So Opti, why is that, where is it going and how will that affect the end-user?

Opti
02-07-2005, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Feb 8 2005, 07:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Feb 8 2005, 07:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by Opti@Feb 7 2005, 04:50 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Almighty Colin@Feb 8 2005, 03:47 AM
"Current PC architecture is nearing its limits," he added.

Why is PC architecture nearing it's limits?
In general.. i would throw in suggestion that current PC architechure is close to the end of its useful life... as we wont be wanting what we currently know as "PC"s for that much longer.

And technically, it probably isn't flexible enough for basing a set of standards upon for a future where we will expect our car alarm key button (or any other electronic device) to have ability to transfer information between itself, your car, your phone, your computer or whatever.
So Opti, why is that, where is it going and how will that affect the end-user?[/b][/quote]
That wasn't the question! and those were just 2 possible arguments why it might be true... not a considered argument for the idea. B)


I'd guess the next major shift would be on the back of a jump to a much more distributed system architecture.. kind of like when the focus of computing went from Mainframe to Mini to Micro..


I really can't conceive what the next step in that architecture will "look like" ... but logic tells me everything in our lives that uses power would have some sort of smart functionality if it could. And all those devices would share information and help each other if they could too. So my diary should be able schedule what time my alarm clock should go off exactly.. after checking with my shaver how long my beard is and if I need a shave... and knows to monitor the travel route for traffic accidents that might affect the time I need to leave. etc etc so the basic building block being universal to any application would be a high prioity.


I don't think we are on verge of going full on "Nano Computing" or something like that... but I do think traditional PCs are getting excitingly close to being a land fill problem. :)

Almighty Colin
02-07-2005, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Opti@Feb 7 2005, 07:49 PM
I really can't conceive what the next step in that architecture will "look like" ... but logic tells me everything in our lives that uses power would have some sort of smart functionality if it could. And all those devices would share information and help each other if they could too. So my diary should be able schedule what time my alarm clock should go off exactly.. after checking with my shaver how long my beard is and if I need a shave... and knows to monitor the travel route for traffic accidents that might affect the time I need to leave. etc etc so the basic building block being universal to any application would be a high prioity.
They need to get working on that. My TiVo thinks I'm a girl for some reason. Either that or Jesse tuned in Oprah and Dr Phil last time he was here.