The Sextracker Trojan

[Nickatilynx]

So you have the trojan that can do the things described here:
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?showtopic=16333

Lets see how many Opranauts would HAVE to use it?

:)

[MaDalton]

i don't even know how to use something like that :unsure:

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by MaDalton@Feb 6 2005, 11:12 AM
i don't even know how to use something like that :unsure:
I'd fucking learn!!!!!! LOL

If you weren't greedy , you could earn 5k a day from a thing like that , no worries , no one the wiser......

:ph34r:

[JR]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Feb 6 2005, 11:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Feb 6 2005, 11:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MaDalton@Feb 6 2005, 11:12 AM
i don't even know how to use something like that :unsure:
I'd fucking learn!!!!!! LOL

If you weren't greedy , you could earn 5k a day from a thing like that , no worries , no one the wiser......

:ph34r: [/b][/quote]
exactly, like a using a little cocaine, having just one drink, or just playing a couple hands of black jack and then you'll quit.

:D

[MaDalton]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Feb 6 2005, 11:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Feb 6 2005, 11:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MaDalton@Feb 6 2005, 11:12 AM
i don't even know how to use something like that :unsure:
I'd fucking learn!!!!!! LOL

If you weren't greedy , you could earn 5k a day from a thing like that , no worries , no one the wiser......

:ph34r: [/b][/quote]
for 5K a day I might be tempted.... :ph34r:

on the other hand - i turned down money before because of my morals - and i would do it again

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by MaDalton+Feb 6 2005, 12:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MaDalton @ Feb 6 2005, 12:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 6 2005, 11:17 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-MaDalton@Feb 6 2005, 11:12 AM
i don't even know how to use something like that :unsure:
I'd fucking learn!!!!!! LOL

If you weren't greedy , you could earn 5k a day from a thing like that , no worries , no one the wiser......

:ph34r:
for 5K a day I might be tempted.... :ph34r:

on the other hand - i turned down money before because of my morals - and i would do it again [/b][/quote]
What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????

"I have the morals I can afford"

The only thing I will NOT consider in this business is any form of KP.

EVERYTHING else , I'm willing to talk.




""Nuns fucking horses and Nazi stormtroopers""

My only questions would be...

1.) How much
2.) When do they pay
3.) How's it converting?

;-))))

[$tanDaMan]

had access to it, didn't use it.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by $tanDaMan@Feb 6 2005, 12:31 PM
had access to it, didn't use it.
I would like to conduct some research on it , including but not limited to a full field study.

;-)))

[sarettah]

Hijacking someone's computer (which is what this puppy amounts to) is pretty much the same as stealing someone's car or breaking and entering into their home. Imho of course.

:blink:

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by sarettah@Feb 6 2005, 12:38 PM
Hijacking someone's computer (which is what this puppy amounts to) is pretty much the same as stealing someone's car or breaking and entering into their home. Imho of course.

:blink:
Shut up jimminy cricket!!!!

;-))))

Fair valid point.

Is it illegal though?

What i9f there is some form of consent to download?

[TheEnforcer]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Feb 6 2005, 03:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Feb 6 2005, 03:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sarettah@Feb 6 2005, 12:38 PM
Hijacking someone's computer (which is what this puppy amounts to) is pretty much the same as stealing someone's car or breaking and entering into their home. Imho of course.

:blink:
Shut up jimminy cricket!!!!

;-))))

Fair valid point.

Is it illegal though?

What i9f there is some form of consent to download? [/b][/quote]
Then it wouldn't be a trojan and that $5000/day with minimal effort would be more like $500.

[sarettah]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 6 2005, 03:52 PM
Is it illegal though?

Is it illegal ? Could be. At least if someone went after someone under conventional laws. Laws against theft and destruction of property and the like could be used as could possibly rico stuff, not to mention various telecommunications statutes that might be able to be called on if an affected system was connected via conventional phone lines.

Still, even if it is in some way legal it would not mesh with my way of thinking. But then again, I will probably die poor too. :blink:

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 6 2005, 03:52 PM
Is it illegal though?

not now, but it soon will be...

although I wouldn't mind having a peek at the software, just for...um...research purposes, ya know ;-)

[Pornwolf]

That's a terrible piece of software and the creators should be banished from the interweb...


...unless they use my codes for the Walmart redirect. :groucho:

[Dravyk]

If you had access to the trojan would you use it?
Nope. Never feels natural using a Trojan. :blink:

[Almighty Colin]

A trojan is unethical to some people. Porn is unethical to some people. I don't really have ethical standards on such things. However, I wouldn't get involved in such a thing because of the possible negative publicity and its negative effect on our other businesses.

[Rolo]

Everything in business comes with a price tag - and when you no longer can afford the payments, then they will repo your soul :awinky:

That $5K/day sounds almost pathetic, if its from screwing millions of people world wide... :unsure:

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Almighty Colin@Feb 7 2005, 04:35 AM
A trojan is unethical to some people. Porn is unethical to some people. I don't really have ethical standards on such things. However, I wouldn't get involved in such a thing because of the possible negative publicity and its negative effect on our other businesses.
:pearl:

[$tanDaMan]

Originally posted by Almighty Colin@Feb 7 2005, 07:35 AM
A trojan is unethical to some people. Porn is unethical to some people. I don't really have ethical standards on such things. However, I wouldn't get involved in such a thing because of the possible negative publicity and its negative effect on our other businesses.
same reason i didn't go for it., although i thought reaaaaally hard about it.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Rolo@Feb 7 2005, 09:18 AM
That $5K/day sounds almost pathetic, if its from screwing millions of people world wide... :unsure:
Hmmm. $1.8 million/ year ain't bad.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by $tanDaMan+Feb 7 2005, 04:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ($tanDaMan @ Feb 7 2005, 04:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Almighty Colin@Feb 7 2005, 07:35 AM
A trojan is unethical to some people. Porn is unethical to some people. I don't really have ethical standards on such things. However, I wouldn't get involved in such a thing because of the possible negative publicity and its negative effect on our other businesses.
same reason i didn't go for it., although i thought reaaaaally hard about it. [/b][/quote]
Yeah, it's worth some thought ;-)

[DrGuile]

Most of these features I wouldnt.

If there wasnt a law about sticking a fork in someone's hand and than selling them bandages, I still wouldnt do it... Unless it was nick... I do it for(to) him ;)

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by DrGuile@Feb 7 2005, 05:18 PM
If there wasnt a law about sticking a fork in someone's hand and than selling them bandages, I still wouldnt do it.
I'd do it for $1.8 million.

[slavdogg]

if this was 2003 or earlier, i'd do it in a heart beat and than stop
but i bet these profits are like crack, once you pop you cant stop

[Bama]

Just so you know, these are not the specs for SexTracker's software - though they copied my stuff - so what features of mine they decided to steal and incorporate I don't know.

These are the specs to my software - the original - and I'm the brains behind coming up with it. EVERYTHING you see out there now is ripped off versions of what I created.

My stuff comes wrapped aound additional software with a EULA and I tell folks exactly what the software does. Not only that, when you want to uninstall my software - I uninstall it and don't trap you in an endless cycle of additional software installs like so many others do.

That is why after 4+ years you don't hear anyone bitching about my installs.

You might think that the software (and any copy of it) is pure evil and I'd only ask you to bear 2 things in mind.

1. The guy that created the razor most likely envisioned it being used for good but you can bet many folks have been killed with one. Just because a tool is capable of being evil doesn't make it so - it's the user who implements the features you should point to.
2. I don't care what you think about the software. I didn't come up with it to impress anyone and don't need/want emotional handholding regarding it.

Now in an effort to level the playing field between the have and have nots, I'll sell you your own version of the software and hook it up on your server and show you how to use it for 15K You want it - hit me up on ICQ 269762

What features you choose to turn on is your business.

And (this is the edited/added part)
Nick is about right about the amount of revenue it can generate. It's already been tested. If you can install it and sell the traffic - it generates that much revenue.

Let the games begin

[Almighty Colin]

Bama says ...

Put up or shut up.

[TheEnforcer]

Hahaha.... well now things are gonna get real interesting real fast!! :P

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by TheEnforcer@Feb 7 2005, 06:24 PM
Hahaha.... well now things are gonna get real interesting real fast!! :P
... behind the scenes.

[cj]

I don't think its very smart to jump onto a bandwagon that has just started to be regulated ... the FTC is yet to spank someone properly, so if I were to do it, I'd have my eyes open very wide and be considering the issues that would mean the difference between just doing something unethical or being made an example of in the legal system and ending up someone's toy in jail.

It seems to be common for people who go after 'get rich quick' concepts like this to end up poor ... then rich again ... then poor again ... then rich again ... then poor again ...

Obviously there's a shitload of traffic to be had ... but a shitload of potential hassles too.

Its not something I'd get involved in, but only because I have other projects that are more important to me than making $5k a day for a few weeks.

Personal choice ... ethics are a moving line!!

[gonzo]

Great . . .

Reminds me of the Virus Construction Kit that was released back in the 80's.

[grimm]

Originally posted by sarettah+Feb 6 2005, 07:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sarettah @ Feb 6 2005, 07:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Feb 6 2005, 03:52 PM
Is it illegal though?

Is it illegal ? Could be. At least if someone went after someone under conventional laws. Laws against theft and destruction of property and the like could be used as could possibly rico stuff, not to mention various telecommunications statutes that might be able to be called on if an affected system was connected via conventional phone lines.

Still, even if it is in some way legal it would not mesh with my way of thinking. But then again, I will probably die poor too. :blink: [/b][/quote]
I want to die poor I want my last check to bounce;)

[Hell Puppy]

Originally posted by grimm+Feb 8 2005, 01:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Feb 8 2005, 01:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by sarettah@Feb 6 2005, 07:54 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Feb 6 2005, 03:52 PM
Is it illegal though?

Is it illegal ? Could be. At least if someone went after someone under conventional laws. Laws against theft and destruction of property and the like could be used as could possibly rico stuff, not to mention various telecommunications statutes that might be able to be called on if an affected system was connected via conventional phone lines.

Still, even if it is in some way legal it would not mesh with my way of thinking. But then again, I will probably die poor too. :blink:
I want to die poor I want my last check to bounce;) [/b][/quote]
Fuck dying broke....

I wanna be beyond broke. I wanna be at least 7 figures in the hole.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Bama@Feb 7 2005, 02:59 PM
Just so you know, these are not the specs for SexTracker's software - though they copied my stuff - so what features of mine they decided to steal and incorporate I don't know.

These are the specs to my software - the original - and I'm the brains behind coming up with it. EVERYTHING you see out there now is ripped off versions of what I created.

My stuff comes wrapped aound additional software with a EULA and I tell folks exactly what the software does. Not only that, when you want to uninstall my software - I uninstall it and don't trap you in an endless cycle of additional software installs like so many others do.

That is why after 4+ years you don't hear anyone bitching about my installs.

You might think that the software (and any copy of it) is pure evil and I'd only ask you to bear 2 things in mind.

1. The guy that created the razor most likely envisioned it being used for good but you can bet many folks have been killed with one. Just because a tool is capable of being evil doesn't make it so - it's the user who implements the features you should point to.
2. I don't care what you think about the software. I didn't come up with it to impress anyone and don't need/want emotional handholding regarding it.

Now in an effort to level the playing field between the have and have nots, I'll sell you your own version of the software and hook it up on your server and show you how to use it for 15K You want it - hit me up on ICQ 269762

What features you choose to turn on is your business.

And (this is the edited/added part)
Nick is about right about the amount of revenue it can generate. It's already been tested. If you can install it and sell the traffic - it generates that much revenue.

Let the games begin
I wonder how the private discussions are going?

I wonder has anyone ever got counsels opinion on it?

Ie if it asks permission in some way to download etc.

Bama how does the install work?

There are certain features that are prolly not the grief to switch on , but there are other features of it that I believe are awesome.

The problem is as an owner of Oprano , I'm prolly to high profile to use one.