Insomnia

[Almighty Colin]

Anyone else have it? I'm going to have to start taking the blue pills again.

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by Almighty Colin@Feb 3 2005, 04:02 AM
Anyone else have it? I'm going to have to start taking the blue pills again.
Half of a low dosage Xanax works when that happens.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Dravyk+Feb 3 2005, 04:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dravyk @ Feb 3 2005, 04:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Almighty Colin@Feb 3 2005, 04:02 AM
Anyone else have it? I'm going to have to start taking the blue pills again.
Half of a low dosage Xanax works when that happens. [/b][/quote]
How's that going? What're you doing up?

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Feb 3 2005, 04:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Feb 3 2005, 04:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by Dravyk@Feb 3 2005, 04:08 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Almighty Colin@Feb 3 2005, 04:02 AM
Anyone else have it? I'm going to have to start taking the blue pills again.
Half of a low dosage Xanax works when that happens.
How's that going? What're you doing up?[/b][/quote]
Good question! Long day off away from computer. I have a "mega-errand" day once every month-and-a-half to two months. Today was one of them. So after a nap then late dinner, just catching up on everything that's happened on the boards today while I was doing "real life" things. :)

I get into these moods where I lay my head down to sleep and my mind ends up revved up, thinking about things, working out problems, coming up with ideas ... productive, yes; sleep-inducing, unfortunately the opposite. An occasional half of a .5 Xanax does the trick of both making me groggy and turning off the brain cells (so to speak). Works wonders I've found on those once in a while nights when its needed. Just that nice, very mild and subtle thing.

Matter of fact, I'll be conked out in the next 25 minutes, I'm sure!

:zzz:

[grimm]

Originally posted by Almighty Colin@Feb 3 2005, 01:02 AM
Anyone else have it? I'm going to have to start taking the blue pills again.
yep. blue pills and all.

[grimm]

Originally posted by Almighty Colin@Feb 3 2005, 01:02 AM
Anyone else have it? I'm going to have to start taking the blue pills again.
you should read Foucalt's Pendulum. you'd like it.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/034...8018223-4047957 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345368754/104-8018223-4047957)

[MissEve]

have you tried the melatonin route? I recently stopped taking melatonin and drinking coffee, I think I was in a vicious circle of groggy sleep and then caffeine to wake up. I feel MUCH better now but..... I think Melatonin definitely works! I have a hard time getting to sleep which melatonin helped but when I do fall asleep I will sleep for 8+ hours. I know other people who would get to sleep but then wake up and melatonin helped them too.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by MissEve@Feb 3 2005, 05:30 AM
have you tried the melatonin route? I recently stopped taking melatonin and drinking coffee, I think I was in a vicious circle of groggy sleep and then caffeine to wake up. I feel MUCH better now but..... I think Melatonin definitely works! I have a hard time getting to sleep which melatonin helped but when I do fall asleep I will sleep for 8+ hours. I know other people who would get to sleep but then wake up and melatonin helped them too.
I drink a pot of coffee a day and about 6 diet sodas. Probably the problem. I'm addicted to that rush.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by grimm+Feb 3 2005, 05:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Feb 3 2005, 05:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Almighty Colin@Feb 3 2005, 01:02 AM
Anyone else have it? I'm going to have to start taking the blue pills again.
you should read Foucalt's Pendulum. you'd like it.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/034...8018223-4047957 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345368754/104-8018223-4047957) [/b][/quote]
Why? Where did that come from? Insomnia or blue pills?

[Winetalk.com]

wine cures this too...

[grimm]

Originally posted by Dravyk+Feb 3 2005, 01:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dravyk @ Feb 3 2005, 01:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Almighty Colin@Feb 3 2005, 04:02 AM
Anyone else have it? I'm going to have to start taking the blue pills again.
Half of a low dosage Xanax works when that happens. [/b][/quote]
not when you are built like an Ox;)

[grimm]

Originally posted by Winetalk.com@Feb 3 2005, 03:15 AM
wine cures this too...
not when wine is not an option:)

Valerian root tea is a mild sedative.

[grimm]

Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Feb 3 2005, 02:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Feb 3 2005, 02:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@Feb 3 2005, 05:13 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Almighty Colin@Feb 3 2005, 01:02 AM
Anyone else have it? I'm going to have to start taking the blue pills again.
you should read Foucalt's Pendulum. you'd like it.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/034...8018223-4047957 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345368754/104-8018223-4047957)
Why? Where did that come from? Insomnia or blue pills? [/b][/quote]
I read it one night, thought yhou might find it interesting, its Umberto Eco.. you know, the Name of the Rose.


But i still think with your interest in history and tehnology, you would dig Neal Stephensons books.

[Titan]

i was having issues with sleep but it was asthma related so im now on a steroid course as app my condition had gotten bad without me knowing it over the course of 20 years

now im on some Deltacortril steroids to clear out my lungs and a new breakthrough inhaler called Seretide which hopefully will let me get back to snoozing in bliss

i know its off the topic but i like to share with u colin ;) lol

[grimm]

Originally posted by MissEve@Feb 3 2005, 02:30 AM
have you tried the melatonin route? I recently stopped taking melatonin and drinking coffee, I think I was in a vicious circle of groggy sleep and then caffeine to wake up. I feel MUCH better now but..... I think Melatonin definitely works! I have a hard time getting to sleep which melatonin helped but when I do fall asleep I will sleep for 8+ hours. I know other people who would get to sleep but then wake up and melatonin helped them too.
Melatonin is the neurotransmitter that is responsible for your Circadian rythm.

If worse ocmes to worse, get some ambien, its a hypnotic, it will help you get a natural rythm.. if you can stay in one.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by grimm+Feb 3 2005, 07:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Feb 3 2005, 07:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Almighty Colin@Feb 3 2005, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by grimm@Feb 3 2005, 05:13 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Almighty Colin@Feb 3 2005, 01:02 AM
Anyone else have it? I'm going to have to start taking the blue pills again.
you should read Foucalt's Pendulum. you'd like it.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/034...8018223-4047957 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345368754/104-8018223-4047957)
Why? Where did that come from? Insomnia or blue pills?
I read it one night, thought yhou might find it interesting, its Umberto Eco.. you know, the Name of the Rose.


But i still think with your interest in history and tehnology, you would dig Neal Stephensons books. [/b][/quote]
I put a few Stephenson books in my Amazon cart for next check out. Just picked up the new Jared Diamond book, "Collapse" and have some others to finish first plus my cart is pretty loaded up already.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Titan@Feb 3 2005, 08:03 AM
i was having issues with sleep but it was asthma related so im now on a steroid course as app my condition had gotten bad without me knowing it over the course of 20 years

now im on some Deltacortril steroids to clear out my lungs and a new breakthrough inhaler called Seretide which hopefully will let me get back to snoozing in bliss

i know its off the topic but i like to share with u colin ;) lol
I was raised on unthreaded boards. Nothing is off-topic.

[Rolo]

Jerk off until you pass out ;-)))

[Rolo]

Actual I have dropped all drinks which have caffeine, guarana, sugar, artificial sweetener etc. for more than 1 month now, and I feel very good. If my energy gets low, then plain water and food will get my normal level back in no time. No problems with sleep either :)

[Peaches]

Melatonin and an Excedrin PM. Only thing that gets me to sleep 90% of the time.

[Anthony]

Next time we see each other, I'll give you something to put you to sleep.

7 out of 26.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Anthony@Feb 3 2005, 10:05 AM
Next time we see each other, I'll give you something to put you to sleep.

7 out of 26.
:okthumb:

[NickPapageorgio]

To be honest man the only thing that helps my insomnia is a couple puffs off the old peace pipe at bed time. It's the only time of day that I smoke but it does seem to help. I tried the melatonin but it would put me to sleep for about an hour and then I would wake up wired like I had just snorted a 3 foot rail.

[Raven]

Originally posted by Almighty Colin@Feb 3 2005, 01:02 AM
Anyone else have it? I'm going to have to start taking the blue pills again.
I've been on hyper alert most of my life...especially since my college days, when hyper alert was the norm.

I just can't seem to turn off my brain when I get ready for sleep.

Actually, that's when I really start churning out thoughts....and the problem solving kicks into play with plans a, b, c, etc....

I've been taking blue pills for a long time...it's the only way I can sleep at night and not wake up like a female bear on a rampage in the morning.

[Nickatilynx]

I only sleep 4 -5 hours a day been like that since High School.

I feel fine :)

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by NickPapageorgio@Feb 3 2005, 12:36 PM
To be honest man the only thing that helps my insomnia is a couple puffs off the old peace pipe at bed time.
I'm shocked!

[Nickatilynx]

then I would wake up wired like I had just snorted a 3 foot rail.

mmmmmmmmmmmmm raillllllllllllllllllllll


;-)))))


NO!!!

coke is bad mmmkay

[DrGuile]

Only Rolo actually seem to be looking for a solution....

drugs to put you to sleep, drugs to wake you up.... seems like the ideal solution... Its certainly the one that requires the less effort and self-control...

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 3 2005, 03:13 PM
then I would wake up wired like I had just snorted a 3 foot rail.

mmmmmmmmmmmmm raillllllllllllllllllllll


;-)))))


NO!!!

coke is bad mmmkay
Really? Are you sure about that? I've only had sinus surgery twice now ...

[*KK*]

Originally posted by grimm@Feb 3 2005, 05:11 AM
If worse ocmes to worse, get some ambien, its a hypnotic, it will help you get a natural rythm.. if you can stay in one.
Therein lies the problem for me. I swear I think my body believes there are 25 or 26 hours in the day. What starts out innocently enough, going to bed at 1 instead of midnight very rapidly becomes going to bed at 6 am and still having to drag my ass out of it around 9 or so at the latest most mornings. It doesn't take but a few days to get totally out of whack, and then to make it worse I do something like I did yesterday evening and allow myself to fall asleep on the couch for a couple hours around dinner time. (OK, dinner time for most people, my schedule right now is that there isn't one at all).

I don't do pills, so every once in a while when I'm like this, I just have to try and stay up straight through one night to try to get myself beat enough that I'll hit the pillow around 11 pm and actually get to sleep the next night.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Feb 3 2005, 03:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Feb 3 2005, 03:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Feb 3 2005, 03:13 PM
then I would wake up wired like I had just snorted a 3 foot rail.

mmmmmmmmmmmmm raillllllllllllllllllllll


;-)))))


NO!!!

coke is bad mmmkay
Really? Are you sure about that? I've only had sinus surgery twice now ... [/b][/quote]
:o

[NickPapageorgio]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 3 2005, 12:13 PM
then I would wake up wired like I had just snorted a 3 foot rail.

mmmmmmmmmmmmm raillllllllllllllllllllll


;-)))))


NO!!!

coke is bad mmmkay
I ofcourse wasn't speaking from experience. I had overheard friends talking at a party... :rolleyes:

Damn...I already told on myself in that other thread didn't I? *kicks rock*

[DrGuile]

Originally posted by *KK*+Feb 3 2005, 03:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*KK* @ Feb 3 2005, 03:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-grimm@Feb 3 2005, 05:11 AM
If worse ocmes to worse, get some ambien, its a hypnotic, it will help you get a natural rythm.. if you can stay in one.
Therein lies the problem for me. I swear I think my body believes there are 25 or 26 hours in the day. What starts out innocently enough, going to bed at 1 instead of midnight very rapidly becomes going to bed at 6 am and still having to drag my ass out of it around 9 or so at the latest most mornings. It doesn't take but a few days to get totally out of whack, and then to make it worse I do something like I did yesterday evening and allow myself to fall asleep on the couch for a couple hours around dinner time. (OK, dinner time for most people, my schedule right now is that there isn't one at all).

I don't do pills, so every once in a while when I'm like this, I just have to try and stay up straight through one night to try to get myself beat enough that I'll hit the pillow around 11 pm and actually get to sleep the next night. [/b][/quote]
Likewise, if there was 27-28 hours in a day, I think Id be balanced. work for 20, sleep for 7-8... That would be tip-top

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by NickPapageorgio@Feb 3 2005, 03:56 PM

I ofcourse wasn't speaking from experience. I had overheard friends talking at a party... :rolleyes:

Damn...I already told on myself in that other thread didn't I? *kicks rock*
We all have our moments

http://web.archive.org/web/20021207194053/...dult.com/vegas/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20021207194053/http://www.insiteadult.com/vegas/)

I had to change my appearance after this trip.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Raven+Feb 3 2005, 04:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Raven @ Feb 3 2005, 04:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Almighty Colin@Feb 3 2005, 01:02 AM
Anyone else have it? I'm going to have to start taking the blue pills again.
I've been on hyper alert most of my life...especially since my college days, when hyper alert was the norm.

I just can't seem to turn off my brain when I get ready for sleep.

Actually, that's when I really start churning out thoughts....and the problem solving kicks into play with plans a, b, c, etc....

I've been taking blue pills for a long time...it's the only way I can sleep at night and not wake up like a female bear on a rampage in the morning. [/b][/quote]
That's my problem and has been all my life.

I used to just take the Exedrin PM and there are nights where I swear I'm amazed I didn't OD on the crap.

I started taking the melatonin because I read that people with migraines taking it had fewer and less severe migraines. After about a month, I can tell the difference :) It also allowed me to just take 1 Ex. PM in addition to get to sleep.

I've tried staying up for a day or so in order to be so exhausted I had to sleep and that works well for that one night...then it's back to square one.

[NickPapageorgio]

Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Feb 3 2005, 12:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Feb 3 2005, 12:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-NickPapageorgio@Feb 3 2005, 03:56 PM

I ofcourse wasn't speaking from experience. I had overheard friends talking at a party... :rolleyes:

Damn...I already told on myself in that other thread didn't I? *kicks rock*
We all have our moments

http://web.archive.org/web/20021207194053/...dult.com/vegas/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20021207194053/http://www.insiteadult.com/vegas/)

I had to change my appearance after this trip. [/b][/quote]
Dad?

[DrGuile]

actually, there was a study done where they kept someone isolated without any time reference. And one of the first thing that would happen is elongated day cycles.

[NickPapageorgio]

Originally posted by DrGuile@Feb 3 2005, 01:00 PM
actually, there was a study done where they kept someone isolated without any time reference. And one of the first thing that would happen is elongated day cycles.
Now if they would just do a study to show why it is everytime I go in a bookstore or library I have to take a shit...

...why is that btw? That has always bothered me...

[*KK*]

Originally posted by DrGuile@Feb 3 2005, 12:58 PM
Likewise, if there was 27-28 hours in a day, I think Id be balanced. work for 20, sleep for 7-8... That would be tip-top
It's horrible, especially when the majority of people are not on this cycle! I don't need 7-8 hours of sleep, my body takes about 4-6 a night, provided they are at the right time. I can wake up at 10 am and feel good, whether I went to sleep at 10 pm or 6 am. And my best sleep hours are from about 5 am to 10 am as well.

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by Raven@Feb 3 2005, 03:05 PM
I just can't seem to turn off my brain when I get ready for sleep.

Actually, that's when I really start churning out thoughts....and the problem solving kicks into play with plans a, b, c, etc....

I've been taking blue pills for a long time...it's the only way I can sleep at night and not wake up like a female bear on a rampage in the morning.
That describes me perfectly, Raven!!

Now what are these "little blue pills" everyone's talking about called?

[SykkBoy]

Just watch the movie "Mona Lisa Smile" if that doesn't put you to sleep in 15 minutes, nothing will...

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by *KK*@Feb 3 2005, 03:36 PM
What starts out innocently enough, going to bed at 1 instead of midnight very rapidly becomes going to bed at 6 am and still having to drag my ass out of it around 9 or so at the latest most mornings. It doesn't take but a few days to get totally out of whack, and then to make it worse I do something like I did yesterday evening and allow myself to fall asleep on the couch for a couple hours around dinner time. (OK, dinner time for most people, my schedule right now is that there isn't one at all).

I don't do pills, so every once in a while when I'm like this, I just have to try and stay up straight through one night to try to get myself beat enough that I'll hit the pillow around 11 pm and actually get to sleep the next night.
Been there and done that. Frequently. Usually ends up one night goes longer, it's 4am, next day it's 7am, etc.

Likewise I was (and still am, actually) never fond of pills. If I can do it without meds, I will.

The things you described, I've tried. Let me just go straight out and stay up until I catch up. Usually though that just knocks me out around 3 in the afternoon and makes matter worse.

From my olden days of working the graveyard or lobster shift in Manhatten, I would often "turn myself around" on the weekends. NYC or not, it's a bitch staying up all night long on the weekends and not seeing daylight, so I used to so the "Saturday Night" switch, and make Sunday and Monday "normal days".

The way to do that is we all have a midday lows. Anyone who is used to or remembers the old 9-to-5 workdays recalls how you get that after lunch, 2:30-3:30 "low". That cycle works no matter when you get up and go to sleep there is a natural "low" that hits you. If you were to give in to that low, you can sleep. That's how I'd do the weekend switch overs.

Of course I also had to go start my work week off late Monday night, so that always sucked.

Anyhow, those old tricks don't work that well anymore when I get my schedule blowned out. Guess my body got used to the "sleep tricks" a bit too much.

[Peaches]

I usually sleep 6-7 hours a night. I can do 5 and be OK but anything less than 5 or more than 7 makes me cranky.

Having the dog alarm is also a royal pain. Even if I NEED to sleep late, I can't. And once I'm up, I'm up.

And I liked Mona Lisa Smile :awinky:

[Hell Puppy]

You guys keep talking about blue pills....

When I think of blue pills, I think Viagra....and if I take one of those, I dont go to sleep, in fact, I'm up all night...

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Feb 4 2005, 03:15 AM
You guys keep talking about blue pills....

When I think of blue pills, I think Viagra....and if I take one of those, I dont go to sleep, in fact, I'm up all night...
Must be interesting if you sleep on your stomach. :P

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Feb 4 2005, 04:15 AM
You guys keep talking about blue pills....

When I think of blue pills, I think Viagra....and if I take one of those, I dont go to sleep, in fact, I'm up all night...
They'd keep you from rolling out of bed :)

[NickPapageorgio]

Originally posted by Peaches+Feb 4 2005, 05:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Feb 4 2005, 05:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Hell Puppy@Feb 4 2005, 04:15 AM
You guys keep talking about blue pills....

When I think of blue pills, I think Viagra....and if I take one of those, I dont go to sleep, in fact, I'm up all night...
They'd keep you from rolling out of bed :) [/b][/quote]
Nice...it's like a built in kickstand.

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by NickPapageorgio+Feb 4 2005, 09:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (NickPapageorgio @ Feb 4 2005, 09:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Peaches@Feb 4 2005, 05:48 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Hell Puppy@Feb 4 2005, 04:15 AM
You guys keep talking about blue pills....

When I think of blue pills, I think Viagra....and if I take one of those, I dont go to sleep, in fact, I'm up all night...
They'd keep you from rolling out of bed :)
Nice...it's like a built in kickstand. [/b][/quote]
One can always start nicknaming themselves "tripod". :P