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Almighty Colin
01-19-2005, 05:49 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The FBI has effectively abandoned its custom-built Internet surveillance technology, once known as Carnivore, designed to read e-mails and other online communications among suspected criminals, terrorists and spies, according to bureau oversight reports submitted to Congress.

Instead, the FBI said it has switched to unspecified commercial software to eavesdrop on computer traffic during such investigations and has increasingly asked Internet providers to conduct wiretaps on targeted customers on the government's behalf, reimbursing companies for their costs.

The FBI performed only eight Internet wiretaps in fiscal 2003 and five in fiscal 2002; none used the software initially called Carnivore and later renamed the DCS-1000, according to FBI documents submitted to Senate and House oversight committees. The FBI, which once said Carnivore was "far better" than commercial products, said previously it had used the technology about 25 times between 1998 and 2000.

The FBI said it could not disclose how much it spent to produce the surveillance software it no longer uses, saying part of its budget was classified. Outside experts said the government probably spent between $6 million and $15 million.

The congressional oversight reports were obtained last week under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act by the Washington-based Electronic Privacy Information Center, a civil liberties group that criticized the surveillance software after it was first disclosed in 2000.

XXXPhoto
01-19-2005, 09:29 AM
yeah, and Hoover was a size 8

JoesHO
01-19-2005, 09:53 AM
You never hear about these knd of things when a democrate is in office!!!

is it cause they hide it better? or because they actually believe we should live in a free country that follows our own laws such as no UNREASONABLE search and seisure?

fierce
01-19-2005, 11:51 AM
Joesho, the carnivore program was developed entirely duringthe Clinton administration, it was a bad idea then, obviously a bad idea now and everyone should be opposed to this type of no-notice no-warrant type of search. Even though it appears that this technology was only used in a limited capacity we should all be concerned that the government feels it has the right to read everyones mail. :grrr:

Almighty Colin
01-19-2005, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by JoesHO1@Jan 19 2005, 09:54 AM
You never hear about these knd of things when a democrate is in office!!!

is it cause they hide it better? or because they actually believe we should live in a free country that follows our own laws such as no UNREASONABLE search and seisure?
The FBI, which once said Carnivore was "far better" than commercial products, said previously it had used the technology about 25 times between 1998 and 2000

JoesHO
01-19-2005, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Jan 19 2005, 08:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Jan 19 2005, 08:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JoesHO1@Jan 19 2005, 09:54 AM
You never hear about these knd of things when a democrate is in office!!!

is it cause they hide it better? or because they actually believe we should live in a free country that follows our own laws such as no UNREASONABLE search and seisure?
The FBI, which once said Carnivore was "far better" than commercial products, said previously it had used the technology about 25 times between 1998 and 2000 [/b][/quote]
Wasn't that when the repubs had clinton in all the bullshit trials? and they actually controlled the house and senate both?