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Mike AI
01-09-2005, 09:59 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/

I think it could be viable. We certainly need to take the gloves off and be prepaired to fight on their level.

rhymer11
01-09-2005, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Jan 9 2005, 07:00 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/

I think it could be viable. We certainly need to take the gloves off and be prepaired to fight on their level.
Good idea Mike. Just like the US did with Osama and Al Quaeda. Train a bunch of locals to kill Americans. :salute:

Opti
01-09-2005, 11:54 AM
That's a strange article... it start's off with a graphic image, a negative image, of Reagan/Bush Snr's illegal war strategy just 20 years ago
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/050104_050110/050108_Salvador_wide.hmedium.jpg

And follows up with 1500 words describing that crime as ‘The Salvador Option’ which seems to be trying to justify repeating the strategy again!

Sheesh, lucky Iraq only has some oil... if they had a canal too, the American people might start justifying a 'Panama Option' of it being OK to carpet bomb the Sunni towns and villiages as well just a ‘Salvador Option’!

Nickatilynx
01-09-2005, 12:57 PM
This whole war was caused by politics , when diplomacy was the answer.

I truly believe Bush's ineptitude has imperilled the West far more than Saddam could ever dream to.

Politics is centered on some people surviving the next election , diplomacy is centered on ALL of us surviving to the next century.

Opti
01-09-2005, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Jan 10 2005, 03:58 AM
diplomacy is centered on ALL of us surviving to the next century.
love that game

http://www.steadysearch.com/search?p=Q&ts=ne&w=diplomacy

Sarettah! how about a diplomacy game instead of this boring poker crap??

grimm
01-09-2005, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Jan 9 2005, 07:00 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/

I think it could be viable. We certainly need to take the gloves off and be prepaired to fight on their level.
a policy of assasination will not fly with the american people, or any abroad, it goes against the geneva convention and every moral and political fiber left in this world.

If bush puts this into place, then i would not blink if turnabout became fair play.

Nickatilynx
01-09-2005, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by grimm+Jan 9 2005, 12:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Jan 9 2005, 12:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 9 2005, 07:00 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/

I think it could be viable. We certainly need to take the gloves off and be prepaired to fight on their level.
a policy of assasination will not fly with the american people, or any abroad, it goes against the geneva convention and every moral and political fiber left in this world.

If bush puts this into place, then i would not blink if turnabout became fair play. [/b][/quote]

"If people don't know what you're doing, they don't know what you're doing wrong."

PornoDoggy
01-09-2005, 04:09 PM
I'm opposed to the idea from a tactical standpoint only.

1. Some of the things described in the article are already being done.

2. The claims by conservatives that the policy was successful in El Salvador are certainly open to discussion.

3. Seems to me that encouraging Kurdish and Shiite targeting of Sunni insurgents and their sympathizers will only lead to greater instability, and compound the problems we have created in Iraq. I don't think the government that will result from the upcoming elections will exist without civil war for any more than 5 years (probably not 3) - you unleash THAT genie on top of everything else, and the situation today may soon look calm compared to the resulting chaos.

4. The practices described in the artilce failed to work in Vietnam, where everybody and their mother's water buffalo knew who was behind it, and this was before cell phone cameras and videotape. I wonder how well it would work today ... the visual I'm getting is a couple of CIA spooks and a few Special Ops soldiers being paraded about and confessing on al Jazeera. (Maybe a retiring pornographer could make like Pat Tillman and volunteer for a mission like that?)

5. When we get down and fight at their level - we lose. Simple as that.