Kerrry Visits Iraq

[grimm]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...MNG2VALREG1.DTL (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2005/01/06/MNG2VALREG1.DTL)



Kerry cheered in Baghdad, decries Bush team's 'blunders'
Once criticized for war stance, he says force alone won't win
Borzou Daragahi, Chronicle Foreign Service

Thursday, January 6, 2005

Baghdad -- Sen. John Kerry, whose seemingly shifting positions on the U.S. war in Iraq plagued him throughout his presidential campaign, came to this war- torn capital Wednesday to see for himself whether the country was moving toward stability or deeper into chaos.

Kerry, who repeatedly charged during the presidential campaign that President Bush had botched the war effort, was greeted warmly by U.S. soldiers in Baghdad.

"I've been visiting a lot places like Des Moines and Green Bay, and it has been great," the Massachusetts Democrat said during an informal lunch meeting with a small group of reporters and representatives of nongovernmental organizations. "But we are at war, and I think you can't really make all the judgments that you need to make without digging in."

He declined to compare the growing insurgency with the one he faced in South Vietnam as a Navy gunship lieutenant more than three decades ago. But he insisted that superior firepower alone wouldn't quell the uprising disrupting Iraq.

"No insurgency is defeated by conventional military power alone," he said. "Look at the IRA," the Irish Republican Army, which fought a decadeslong guerrilla war against the British in Northern Ireland before a Catholic- Protestant power-sharing government was put in place. "It was defeated by a combination of time and political negotiation."

Kerry, who talked with U.S. intelligence officials and Iraqi officials on Wednesday, was also scheduled to meet with officials of the U.S. Embassy and with members of the interim Iraqi government, including interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi and a deputy to Abdel Aziz al-Hakim, the Shiite leader at the top of an electoral list favored in Iraq's Jan. 30 elections.

U.S. soldiers approached Kerry inside the restaurant of the Rashid Hotel, asking him to pose for photographs and sign T-shirts. The star-struck restaurant manager insisted on serving Kerry the restaurant's specialty, a plate of grilled chicken and lamb.

Later in the day, Kerry met with about 20 soldiers based in his home state, including reservists from the 356th Engineer Detachment and 126th Aviation Company of the Massachusetts Army National Guard at Camp Victory, where soldiers are bivouacked in luxury villas once inhabited by Saddam Hussein and his loyalists.

"They all joked about how living conditions had changed since Sen. Kerry was in Vietnam," said David Wade, the senator's communications director.

Kerry was scheduled to fly on a C-130 military transport plane today to visit troops in Fallujah and Mosul.

The senator said he was more interested in asking questions of soldiers, U.S. officials, Iraqis and even the journalists themselves instead of rehashing the political battles of the past campaign season.

But in several instances, Kerry attacked what he called the "horrendous judgments" and "unbelievable blunders" of the Bush administration. The mistakes, he said, included former U.S. occupation leader Paul Bremer's decisions to disband the Iraqi army and purge the government of former members of Hussein's Baath Party. Both moves are widely believed to have fueled the largely Sunni insurgency.

"What is sad about what's happening here now is that so much of it is a process of catching up from the enormous miscalculations and wrong judgments made in the beginning," he said. "And the job has been made enormously harder."

He added, however, that it was time to move forward.

"Mistakes have been made," he said. "Now, it's a different time and different set of judgments that have to be made. I'm here to make judgments about what moves are available to us."

Kerry is visiting Iraq as part of a Middle East tour that also includes meetings with leaders in Egypt, Israel and the Palestinian territories. He said success in Iraq was vital as part of the struggle for wider change in the Middle East.

"The stakes are very important, very high, and not just for Iraq," he said. "You have another election in the West Bank, a set of challenges to Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the region that are quite daunting."

[Mike AI]

Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 05:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
a voice of reason. At least he went there and you live behind your gated community in Fla flapping your gums. That is just sickening. You have never seen a shot fired in anger. You have never dodged a bullet. You have never layed it on the line in the face of a real enemy and yet you mouth off like a hero. Have you ever felt a 50 cal hit your vehicle? Have you ever been blown off your feet by an rpg? Have you even ever sacrificed a kid for your country? You have no say in this matter. I have tried to remain silent but when I see this kind of cowardice, I cringe. OK, Nick, cut and paste the past if it makes you feel better, but this guy is a woose of the first order. BTW, this post has nothing to do with business.

[rhymer11]

BTW, Vick, I was keen to answer your post on business and how to survive on the net and prosper, but Nick and Gonzo banned me again. If you would still like a proper response, just ask. If you don't hear from me, Nick has banned me again.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ... [/b][/quote]
but it is a short string. If you are going to post, post say something intelligent. You know, something that contributes. Even Mike deserves that courtesy. Just insulting him does nothing to further the discussion.

[grimm]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 05:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
notice who was cheering;)

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by grimm+Jan 7 2005, 07:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Jan 7 2005, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 05:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
notice who was cheering;) [/b][/quote]
actually, no.

[grimm]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ... [/b][/quote]
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)

[grimm]

Originally posted by rhymer11+Jan 7 2005, 05:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rhymer11 @ Jan 7 2005, 05:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 05:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
a voice of reason. At least he went there and you live behind your gated community in Fla flapping your gums. That is just sickening. You have never seen a shot fired in anger. You have never dodged a bullet. You have never layed it on the line in the face of a real enemy and yet you mouth off like a hero. Have you ever felt a 50 cal hit your vehicle? Have you ever been blown off your feet by an rpg? Have you even ever sacrificed a kid for your country? You have no say in this matter. I have tried to remain silent but when I see this kind of cowardice, I cringe. OK, Nick, cut and paste the past if it makes you feel better, but this guy is a woose of the first order. BTW, this post has nothing to do with business. [/b][/quote]
Have you?


HAve you ever said anything worth merit. Im not just talking here, but like, in your entire life??

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by grimm+Jan 7 2005, 07:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Jan 7 2005, 07:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:) [/b][/quote]
OK, I am cheering.....

Mike is like every other arm chair general with nothing to lose (again, this is nothing to do with business). He lives in fear in a gated community and sends young men and women off to be killed in foreign wars for some sort of personal vendetta while he sips his mint julips. that is sick. I really don't care how succsessful or unsuccessful you are in this business, but his kind are responsible for the deaths of a lot of good kids just by voting. You think about this mike, as the death toll mounts and the elections fail.

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by grimm+Jan 7 2005, 07:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Jan 7 2005, 07:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 05:59 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 05:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
a voice of reason. At least he went there and you live behind your gated community in Fla flapping your gums. That is just sickening. You have never seen a shot fired in anger. You have never dodged a bullet. You have never layed it on the line in the face of a real enemy and yet you mouth off like a hero. Have you ever felt a 50 cal hit your vehicle? Have you ever been blown off your feet by an rpg? Have you even ever sacrificed a kid for your country? You have no say in this matter. I have tried to remain silent but when I see this kind of cowardice, I cringe. OK, Nick, cut and paste the past if it makes you feel better, but this guy is a woose of the first order. BTW, this post has nothing to do with business.
Have you?


HAve you ever said anything worth merit. Im not just talking here, but like, in your entire life?? [/b][/quote]
Oh I am sure I have. I have survived the slings and arrows of the internet for longer than most and am more successful than most. I am sure that says something.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by rhymer11+Jan 7 2005, 10:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rhymer11 @ Jan 7 2005, 10:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
but it is a short string. If you are going to post, post say something intelligent. You know, something that contributes. Even Mike deserves that courtesy. Just insulting him does nothing to further the discussion. [/b][/quote]
Golly gee wilikers, j'fuckwad ... it's Nick & Gonzo you need to be sucking up to, not Mike. He sold the cocksucker.

I do find it amusing, to say the least, to be lectured about posting something intelligent by a guy who has "gated community" recorded in a macro on his keyboard.

Mike's entire repertoire got shot in one statement - "Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!" Trying to convince Mike that people who don't think like him may actually have a valid point is like trying to talk to Pat Robertson about gay rights or Jerry Falwell about evolution - you can knock on the door all day, but ain't nobody gonna be home.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by grimm+Jan 7 2005, 10:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Jan 7 2005, 10:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:) [/b][/quote]
I was kind of hoping that Mike would jump into the thread you started earlier today. I wanted to see how he spun the delay on filling the need for more boots on the ground until after the election.

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Jan 7 2005, 07:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Jan 7 2005, 07:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
but it is a short string. If you are going to post, post say something intelligent. You know, something that contributes. Even Mike deserves that courtesy. Just insulting him does nothing to further the discussion.
Golly gee wilikers, j'fuckwad ... it's Nick & Gonzo you need to be sucking up to, not Mike. He sold the cocksucker.

I do find it amusing, to say the least, to be lectured about posting something intelligent by a guy who has "gated community" recorded in a macro on his keyboard.

Mike's entire repertoire got shot in one statement - "Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!" Trying to convince Mike that people who don't think like him may actually have a valid point is like trying to talk to Pat Robertson about gay rights or Jerry Falwell about evolution - you can knock on the door all day, but ain't nobody gonna be home. [/b][/quote]
and your point is? I just post this because Mike never responds and I learned years ago that snow blind burn outs never ever recover so why bother.

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Jan 7 2005, 07:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Jan 7 2005, 07:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)
I was kind of hoping that Mike would jump into the thread you started earlier today. I wanted to see how he spun the delay on filling the need for more boots on the ground until after the election. [/b][/quote]
Doesn't it feel a bit drafty in the US at the moment? And I don't mean an Alberta clipper.

[grimm]

Originally posted by rhymer11+Jan 7 2005, 07:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rhymer11 @ Jan 7 2005, 07:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)
OK, I am cheering.....

Mike is like every other arm chair general with nothing to lose (again, this is nothing to do with business). He lives in fear in a gated community and sends young men and women off to be killed in foreign wars for some sort of personal vendetta while he sips his mint julips. that is sick. I really don't care how succsessful or unsuccessful you are in this business, but his kind are responsible for the deaths of a lot of good kids just by voting. You think about this mike, as the death toll mounts and the elections fail. [/b][/quote]
that may be the most retarded thing ive read in months.


you know nothing of the man, yet hurl your insults... but when turnabout is fair play, you cry foul. your language has the chemical balance of a bipolar chicken off its meds


and what are the "Slings and arrows" (a most horrible use of shakespeare)...you have survived. It seems to me you are nothing more than an internet has been who has inverted his own reality into the 1's and 0's that are the baseline of the businesses we have chosen. Name me one person who has been maimed, hurt, bruised, or even scratched in internet business, and ill call you a liar to your face. Do yourself a favor, get a real life. Judge others on their face to face merits. Limit your stupidity to when it is necessary, and try not to trip on your own synapses.

[PornoDoggy]

I keep reading all this draft stuff and it makes me smile.

If people wanted to fuck up the military far beyond belief, start drafting people who don't want to be there.

[grimm]

Originally posted by rhymer11+Jan 7 2005, 07:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rhymer11 @ Jan 7 2005, 07:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)
I was kind of hoping that Mike would jump into the thread you started earlier today. I wanted to see how he spun the delay on filling the need for more boots on the ground until after the election.
Doesn't it feel a bit drafty in the US at the moment? And I don't mean an Alberta clipper. [/b][/quote]
my intent was good banter with a well informed political pundit and a good friend, not to pull lice off the dog.

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by grimm+Jan 7 2005, 07:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Jan 7 2005, 07:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)
OK, I am cheering.....

Mike is like every other arm chair general with nothing to lose (again, this is nothing to do with business). He lives in fear in a gated community and sends young men and women off to be killed in foreign wars for some sort of personal vendetta while he sips his mint julips. that is sick. I really don't care how succsessful or unsuccessful you are in this business, but his kind are responsible for the deaths of a lot of good kids just by voting. You think about this mike, as the death toll mounts and the elections fail.
that may be the most retarded thing ive read in months.


you know nothing of the man, yet hurl your insults... but when turnabout is fair play, you cry foul. your language has the chemical balance of a bipolar chicken off its meds


and what are the "Slings and arrows" (a most horrible use of shakespeare)...you have survived. It seems to me you are nothing more than an internet has been who has inverted his own reality into the 1's and 0's that are the baseline of the businesses we have chosen. Name me one person who has been maimed, hurt, bruised, or even scratched in internet business, and ill call you a liar to your face. Do yourself a favor, get a real life. Judge others on their face to face merits. Limit your stupidity to when it is necessary, and try not to trip on your own synapses. [/b][/quote]
Excuse me, Grimm. Mike has already told us that he is an arm chair general....his words...who lives in a gated community...his words....So what the fuck is your point? I haven't said anything new here.

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:42 PM
I keep reading all this draft stuff and it makes me smile.

If people wanted to fuck up the military far beyond belief, start drafting people who don't want to be there.
You are either very young or you have a very, very short memory.

[grimm]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:42 PM
I keep reading all this draft stuff and it makes me smile.

If people wanted to fuck up the military far beyond belief, start drafting people who don't want to be there.
we are a long way off from a draft initiative. but it does loom in the future given current trend of events.. but trends change.

[grimm]

Originally posted by rhymer11+Jan 7 2005, 07:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rhymer11 @ Jan 7 2005, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)
OK, I am cheering.....

Mike is like every other arm chair general with nothing to lose (again, this is nothing to do with business). He lives in fear in a gated community and sends young men and women off to be killed in foreign wars for some sort of personal vendetta while he sips his mint julips. that is sick. I really don't care how succsessful or unsuccessful you are in this business, but his kind are responsible for the deaths of a lot of good kids just by voting. You think about this mike, as the death toll mounts and the elections fail.
that may be the most retarded thing ive read in months.


you know nothing of the man, yet hurl your insults... but when turnabout is fair play, you cry foul. your language has the chemical balance of a bipolar chicken off its meds


and what are the "Slings and arrows" (a most horrible use of shakespeare)...you have survived. It seems to me you are nothing more than an internet has been who has inverted his own reality into the 1's and 0's that are the baseline of the businesses we have chosen. Name me one person who has been maimed, hurt, bruised, or even scratched in internet business, and ill call you a liar to your face. Do yourself a favor, get a real life. Judge others on their face to face merits. Limit your stupidity to when it is necessary, and try not to trip on your own synapses.
Excuse me, Grimm. Mike has already told us that he is an arm chair general....his words...who lives in a gated community...his words....So what the fuck is your point? I haven't said anything new here. [/b][/quote]
I know him a bit better than you do. my point.

You being an armchair retard. my other point

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by rhymer11+Jan 7 2005, 07:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rhymer11 @ Jan 7 2005, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)
OK, I am cheering.....

Mike is like every other arm chair general with nothing to lose (again, this is nothing to do with business). He lives in fear in a gated community and sends young men and women off to be killed in foreign wars for some sort of personal vendetta while he sips his mint julips. that is sick. I really don't care how succsessful or unsuccessful you are in this business, but his kind are responsible for the deaths of a lot of good kids just by voting. You think about this mike, as the death toll mounts and the elections fail.
that may be the most retarded thing ive read in months.


you know nothing of the man, yet hurl your insults... but when turnabout is fair play, you cry foul. your language has the chemical balance of a bipolar chicken off its meds


and what are the "Slings and arrows" (a most horrible use of shakespeare)...you have survived. It seems to me you are nothing more than an internet has been who has inverted his own reality into the 1's and 0's that are the baseline of the businesses we have chosen. Name me one person who has been maimed, hurt, bruised, or even scratched in internet business, and ill call you a liar to your face. Do yourself a favor, get a real life. Judge others on their face to face merits. Limit your stupidity to when it is necessary, and try not to trip on your own synapses.
Excuse me, Grimm. Mike has already told us that he is an arm chair general....his words...who lives in a gated community...his words....So what the fuck is your point? I haven't said anything new here. [/b][/quote]
"Name me one person who has been maimed, hurt, bruised, or even scratched in internet business, and ill call you a liar to your face."

I can't name you one, but I certainly know that a whole lot of preteen kids got hard core porn spam sent to them in their email by "mailers". Do you not think that leaves bruises or scratches? Just a thought.

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by grimm+Jan 7 2005, 07:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Jan 7 2005, 07:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)
OK, I am cheering.....

Mike is like every other arm chair general with nothing to lose (again, this is nothing to do with business). He lives in fear in a gated community and sends young men and women off to be killed in foreign wars for some sort of personal vendetta while he sips his mint julips. that is sick. I really don't care how succsessful or unsuccessful you are in this business, but his kind are responsible for the deaths of a lot of good kids just by voting. You think about this mike, as the death toll mounts and the elections fail.
that may be the most retarded thing ive read in months.


you know nothing of the man, yet hurl your insults... but when turnabout is fair play, you cry foul. your language has the chemical balance of a bipolar chicken off its meds


and what are the "Slings and arrows" (a most horrible use of shakespeare)...you have survived. It seems to me you are nothing more than an internet has been who has inverted his own reality into the 1's and 0's that are the baseline of the businesses we have chosen. Name me one person who has been maimed, hurt, bruised, or even scratched in internet business, and ill call you a liar to your face. Do yourself a favor, get a real life. Judge others on their face to face merits. Limit your stupidity to when it is necessary, and try not to trip on your own synapses.
Excuse me, Grimm. Mike has already told us that he is an arm chair general....his words...who lives in a gated community...his words....So what the fuck is your point? I haven't said anything new here.
I know him a bit better than you do. my point.

You being an armchair retard. my other point [/b][/quote]
Dude, he said it not me. Make a point or something.

[grimm]

and you do cry foul and duck the question whenever whatever short accumen you have.

what do you do?

what are your accomplishments

What are your failures?

Where dod you get stsrted?

What do you have to offer/detract from conversations?

[grimm]

Originally posted by rhymer11+Jan 7 2005, 07:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rhymer11 @ Jan 7 2005, 07:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)
OK, I am cheering.....

Mike is like every other arm chair general with nothing to lose (again, this is nothing to do with business). He lives in fear in a gated community and sends young men and women off to be killed in foreign wars for some sort of personal vendetta while he sips his mint julips. that is sick. I really don't care how succsessful or unsuccessful you are in this business, but his kind are responsible for the deaths of a lot of good kids just by voting. You think about this mike, as the death toll mounts and the elections fail.
that may be the most retarded thing ive read in months.


you know nothing of the man, yet hurl your insults... but when turnabout is fair play, you cry foul. your language has the chemical balance of a bipolar chicken off its meds


and what are the "Slings and arrows" (a most horrible use of shakespeare)...you have survived. It seems to me you are nothing more than an internet has been who has inverted his own reality into the 1's and 0's that are the baseline of the businesses we have chosen. Name me one person who has been maimed, hurt, bruised, or even scratched in internet business, and ill call you a liar to your face. Do yourself a favor, get a real life. Judge others on their face to face merits. Limit your stupidity to when it is necessary, and try not to trip on your own synapses.
Excuse me, Grimm. Mike has already told us that he is an arm chair general....his words...who lives in a gated community...his words....So what the fuck is your point? I haven't said anything new here.
I know him a bit better than you do. my point.

You being an armchair retard. my other point
Dude, he said it not me. Make a point or something. [/b][/quote]
read the whole post, not the first line, and therin lies my point.

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:49 PM
and you do cry foul and duck the question whenever whatever short accumen you have.

what do you do?

what are your accomplishments

What are your failures?

Where dod you get stsrted?

What do you have to offer/detract from conversations?
Grimm, I have no idea of what you have done or accomplished either. You don't post it all over the boards. Nor do I nor do I need to. Suffice to say that I have been around long enough to make a very good living at this without having to get involved in the "what the fuck are we going to do next thread"

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by grimm+Jan 7 2005, 07:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Jan 7 2005, 07:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)
OK, I am cheering.....

Mike is like every other arm chair general with nothing to lose (again, this is nothing to do with business). He lives in fear in a gated community and sends young men and women off to be killed in foreign wars for some sort of personal vendetta while he sips his mint julips. that is sick. I really don't care how succsessful or unsuccessful you are in this business, but his kind are responsible for the deaths of a lot of good kids just by voting. You think about this mike, as the death toll mounts and the elections fail.
that may be the most retarded thing ive read in months.


you know nothing of the man, yet hurl your insults... but when turnabout is fair play, you cry foul. your language has the chemical balance of a bipolar chicken off its meds


and what are the "Slings and arrows" (a most horrible use of shakespeare)...you have survived. It seems to me you are nothing more than an internet has been who has inverted his own reality into the 1's and 0's that are the baseline of the businesses we have chosen. Name me one person who has been maimed, hurt, bruised, or even scratched in internet business, and ill call you a liar to your face. Do yourself a favor, get a real life. Judge others on their face to face merits. Limit your stupidity to when it is necessary, and try not to trip on your own synapses.
Excuse me, Grimm. Mike has already told us that he is an arm chair general....his words...who lives in a gated community...his words....So what the fuck is your point? I haven't said anything new here.
I know him a bit better than you do. my point.

You being an armchair retard. my other point
Dude, he said it not me. Make a point or something.
read the whole post, not the first line, and therin lies my point. [/b][/quote]
I did and that was my response.

[grimm]

Originally posted by rhymer11+Jan 7 2005, 07:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rhymer11 @ Jan 7 2005, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:49 PM
and you do cry foul and duck the question whenever whatever short accumen you have.

what do you do?

what are your accomplishments

What are your failures?

Where dod you get stsrted?

What do you have to offer/detract from conversations?
Grimm, I have no idea of what you have done or accomplished either. You don't post it all over the boards. Nor do I nor do I need to. Suffice to say that I have been around long enough to make a very good living at this without having to get involved in the "what the fuck are we going to do next thread" [/b][/quote]
you never asked.

you were asked repeatedly.

anyway, the people that want to know, know, i am an open book.

[grimm]

Originally posted by rhymer11+Jan 7 2005, 07:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rhymer11 @ Jan 7 2005, 07:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)
OK, I am cheering.....

Mike is like every other arm chair general with nothing to lose (again, this is nothing to do with business). He lives in fear in a gated community and sends young men and women off to be killed in foreign wars for some sort of personal vendetta while he sips his mint julips. that is sick. I really don't care how succsessful or unsuccessful you are in this business, but his kind are responsible for the deaths of a lot of good kids just by voting. You think about this mike, as the death toll mounts and the elections fail.
that may be the most retarded thing ive read in months.


you know nothing of the man, yet hurl your insults... but when turnabout is fair play, you cry foul. your language has the chemical balance of a bipolar chicken off its meds


and what are the "Slings and arrows" (a most horrible use of shakespeare)...you have survived. It seems to me you are nothing more than an internet has been who has inverted his own reality into the 1's and 0's that are the baseline of the businesses we have chosen. Name me one person who has been maimed, hurt, bruised, or even scratched in internet business, and ill call you a liar to your face. Do yourself a favor, get a real life. Judge others on their face to face merits. Limit your stupidity to when it is necessary, and try not to trip on your own synapses.
Excuse me, Grimm. Mike has already told us that he is an arm chair general....his words...who lives in a gated community...his words....So what the fuck is your point? I haven't said anything new here.
I know him a bit better than you do. my point.

You being an armchair retard. my other point
Dude, he said it not me. Make a point or something.
read the whole post, not the first line, and therin lies my point.
I did and that was my response. [/b][/quote]
and what was that?

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by grimm+Jan 7 2005, 08:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Jan 7 2005, 08:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)
OK, I am cheering.....

Mike is like every other arm chair general with nothing to lose (again, this is nothing to do with business). He lives in fear in a gated community and sends young men and women off to be killed in foreign wars for some sort of personal vendetta while he sips his mint julips. that is sick. I really don't care how succsessful or unsuccessful you are in this business, but his kind are responsible for the deaths of a lot of good kids just by voting. You think about this mike, as the death toll mounts and the elections fail.
that may be the most retarded thing ive read in months.


you know nothing of the man, yet hurl your insults... but when turnabout is fair play, you cry foul. your language has the chemical balance of a bipolar chicken off its meds


and what are the "Slings and arrows" (a most horrible use of shakespeare)...you have survived. It seems to me you are nothing more than an internet has been who has inverted his own reality into the 1's and 0's that are the baseline of the businesses we have chosen. Name me one person who has been maimed, hurt, bruised, or even scratched in internet business, and ill call you a liar to your face. Do yourself a favor, get a real life. Judge others on their face to face merits. Limit your stupidity to when it is necessary, and try not to trip on your own synapses.
Excuse me, Grimm. Mike has already told us that he is an arm chair general....his words...who lives in a gated community...his words....So what the fuck is your point? I haven't said anything new here.
I know him a bit better than you do. my point.

You being an armchair retard. my other point
Dude, he said it not me. Make a point or something.
read the whole post, not the first line, and therin lies my point.
I did and that was my response.
and what was that? [/b][/quote]
What is this, freekin pretzel logic? Enough already. Say something to move this discussion along.

Anyway, I am outta here for awhile. I make no money off these boards. I do it for amusement. Jon's bitch slap theory was a bit premature. Sorry Jon. Maybe Jim will ban me again after inviting me here in the first place. Oh well. Time to go back to living the good life and not fighting ridiculous battles with rednecks. And I might ad that I don't think all of you fit that category. In fact between the right wing propaganda and there are a lot of nuggets and pearls of wisdom on this board. But the catfighting is just too gay. Sorry lee...no offense intended. But the one thing that I have not seen anywhere on this board is any really good advice on making money. So I will watch with great interest to see if this board can outperform its current Alexa curve. Good luck, I would hate to see it crash.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 10:45 PM
You are either very young or you have a very, very short memory.
Excuse me, dipshit, but I am 51 years old and I spent ten years in what was (at the time) the world's 2nd largest Nuclear Navy (only our sailors didn't glow in the dark very often) - and I joined in the beginning of the all-volunteer force. For a couple of those years, I was in recruiting.

At the height of the cold war we had millions of men waiting for something to happen. A slacker here, a malcontent there was not a big deal. That's not the way it is today. With a force that can't wipe it's collective ass without a massive callup of reserves and guard units, you can't afford to have people who don't want to suit up in the costume of the day and play the part, and you don't have the personnel required to babysit people who don't play by the rules.

The only kind of draft I personally would support would be a flat, across the board, no exemptions, no deferments, take your ass when you are 19 and keep you untily you are 21, and you WILL do something. You can clean toilets in a military barracks, you can clean toilets in an urban school or a rural nursing home, or you can clean toilets in Leavenworth Prison for a couple of years longer than . Dont' fucking matter if your daddy is Bill Gates or your momma don't know who your daddy was, or if you sit to piss or stand to piss - you go.

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Jan 7 2005, 08:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Jan 7 2005, 08:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-rhymer11@Jan 7 2005, 10:45 PM
You are either very young or you have a very, very short memory.
Excuse me, dipshit, but I am 51 years old and I spent ten years in what was (at the time) the world's 2nd largest Nuclear Navy (only our sailors didn't glow in the dark very often) - and I joined in the beginning of the all-volunteer force. For a couple of those years, I was in recruiting.

At the height of the cold war we had millions of men waiting for something to happen. A slacker here, a malcontent there was not a big deal. That's not the way it is today. With a force that can't wipe it's collective ass without a massive callup of reserves and guard units, you can't afford to have people who don't want to suit up in the costume of the day and play the part, and you don't have the personnel required to babysit people who don't play by the rules.

The only kind of draft I personally would support would be a flat, across the board, no exemptions, no deferments, take your ass when you are 19 and keep you untily you are 21, and you WILL do something. You can clean toilets in a military barracks, you can clean toilets in an urban school or a rural nursing home, or you can clean toilets in Leavenworth Prison for a couple of years longer than . Dont' fucking matter if your daddy is Bill Gates or your momma don't know who your daddy was, or if you sit to piss or stand to piss - you go. [/b][/quote]
which navy was that? You are either a russian or an american I assume. So I go with my second premise. A short memory. I guess you served in Viet Nam. I assume then you were under fire, in combat so are very experienced and should be commended for your service. However...the draft...the lottery....GW Bush and his college buddies. That is the reality of the draft.

edited because I misread the previous post....my apologise

[grimm]

thought you were done. what was the question again?

[rhymer11]

Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 08:35 PM
thought you were done. what was the question again?
I suppose that is up to you Grimm. I was just intrigued by the draft issue. So go ahead and ask. What's on your mind dude?

[PornoDoggy]

During the time I was in the service Russians had the largest Nuclear Navy, so yes- I am an American (even though it gall's Mike's ass whenever I say it).

Now ... what the fuck does this mean? "However...the draft...the lottery....GW Bush and his college buddies"?

How, exactly, do you think he and his gated-community cronies are going to institute a draft, and why would they do it?

BTW, Bush had nothing to do with the lottery. The lottery was years away when Daddy pulled the necessary strings to get W into the Texas ANG. He was still three years from going AWOL when the first one took place.

How would they do it? I hear that fear, mostly from the left - but I don't share it. There are battalions of soccer moms who support Bush to the last drop of somebody else's kid's blood who will begin to channel their inner peacenik as soon as it looks like THEIR Johnny or Janey may have to go.

Why would they do it? The JCS don't want it, for the reasons I outlined in my previous post. Implement a draft in this session of Congress and you won't see benefits in manpower for three years at a minimum, because it would take the services time to gear up to handle the extra bodies.

I have a more logical proposal. Increase the size of the military by 50% across the board, active duty and reserves. Give them what they fucking need to do the job, regardless of the political consequences.

Pay them what they are worth. Honor the commitments you make to them when they finish their service.

Oh yeah ... and remember that there are places to fight that are sand challenged. Increase the studies of the toxic effects of rice farts on U.S. troops on a battlerfield - because THAT is the real threat of tomorrow for the United States.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by grimm+Jan 7 2005, 10:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Jan 7 2005, 10:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:) [/b][/quote]

You fucker!!! Am I your puppet to play with??

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Jan 8 2005, 12:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Jan 8 2005, 12:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)

You fucker!!! Am I your puppet to play with?? [/b][/quote]
Do you feel cheap? Used?

Call 1-888-SUETHERFUCKER ...

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Jan 8 2005, 01:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Jan 8 2005, 01:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Mike AI@Jan 8 2005, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)

You fucker!!! Am I your puppet to play with??
Do you feel cheap? Used?

Call 1-888-SUETHERFUCKER ... [/b][/quote]


Remember, I own the domain suemyass.com!!

[grimm]

Originally posted by rhymer11+Jan 7 2005, 08:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rhymer11 @ Jan 7 2005, 08:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-grimm@Jan 7 2005, 08:35 PM
thought you were done. what was the question again?
I suppose that is up to you Grimm. I was just intrigued by the draft issue. So go ahead and ask. What's on your mind dude? [/b][/quote]
not much really.. other than making my monkey on a string dance:)

[grimm]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Jan 7 2005, 09:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Jan 7 2005, 09:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@Jan 7 2005, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jan 7 2005, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Jan 7 2005, 08:52 PM
Great we have a losing candidate for President now bad mouthing the Commander in Chief directly to troops in the field!!

Why don't he just hand out white flags!!!

Fucking liberals wil do anything to undermine this country!!!
Pull the string, the dolly talks ...
it really was indeed a blatant troll, Mike hadnt made a post in a while, and my previous one didnt get a response, so i figured he couldnt hold off on this one, and why should hem, its ridiculous:)

You fucker!!! Am I your puppet to play with?? [/b][/quote]
hahah no, but you missed the one earlier, so i had to try again:)