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Nickatilynx
12-29-2004, 11:43 AM
Who is hot , who is not.

In another thread I have been told to stay clear of sex.com.

What about buying traffic from TGPs?

Is it worth it buying spots from worldsex , the hun , shemp?

In the past I actually did very well with the hun , but I'm talking 1999.

JoesHO
12-29-2004, 11:59 AM
www.jaysxxxlinks.com is a good one as well
and
www.madthumbs.com

Weg Cory
12-29-2004, 12:15 PM
I have purchased from Drinkinghard and results were good. He has some nice packages.

gallerytrafficservice.com

Jay's site has the best traffic around but I don't think he sells it. Of all the TGP sites, he is one of the true (I make a lot of money on this site so I don't sell it) guys.

buckethead
12-29-2004, 12:38 PM
I think TGP traffic is the worst of the worst.
I do not believe that this is a viable traffic option for anything other than inflating the numbers of hits a site recieves.
If I am wrong, then who here has any accurate information on conversions from TGP traffic?

I think that this is the absolute worst threat to our industry ( next to payment processing issues) This free porn phenomenoe is going to be the cause of new reagulations in 2005 I believe.

Other than creating inflated traffic numbers, and allowing people to keep their true good traffic while trading out their shitty traffic to others, in order to appease the masses and the politically correct. What is the GOOD use of the traffic from surfers who are looking for free stuff? Unless you need the raw numbers to misinform the other guy.

gonzo
12-29-2004, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by buckethead@Dec 29 2004, 12:39 PM
I think that this is the absolute worst threat to our industry ( next to payment processing issues) This free porn phenomenoe is going to be the cause of new reagulations in 2005 I believe.


Graham is back...

buckethead
12-29-2004, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by gonzo+Dec 29 2004, 09:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Dec 29 2004, 09:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-buckethead@Dec 29 2004, 12:39 PM
I think that this is the absolute worst threat to our industry ( next to payment processing issues) This free porn phenomenoe is going to be the cause of new reagulations in 2005 I believe.


Graham is back... [/b][/quote]
If I am wrong, please explain to me the extent of wealth one can expect to make from a TGP ?

How do you come about this information ?

Nickatilynx
12-29-2004, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by buckethead@Dec 29 2004, 09:39 AM
I think TGP traffic is the worst of the worst.
I do not believe that this is a viable traffic option for anything other than inflating the numbers of hits a site recieves.
If I am wrong, then who here has any accurate information on conversions from TGP traffic?

I think that this is the absolute worst threat to our industry ( next to payment processing issues) This free porn phenomenoe is going to be the cause of new reagulations in 2005 I believe.

Other than creating inflated traffic numbers, and allowing people to keep their true good traffic while trading out their shitty traffic to others, in order to appease the masses and the politically correct. What is the GOOD use of the traffic from surfers who are looking for free stuff? Unless you need the raw numbers to misinform the other guy.
Buckethead ain't Graham.

JoesHO
12-29-2004, 12:54 PM
Our Product Remote thumbs deals direclty with over 2,300 tgp users, and they all are making some kind of money off of them. some of them make quite a nice living.

so you tell us buckethead why do you say tgp's are a bad thing?

you should build your own and try them out before you cast stones.

Have you ever run a tgp?

how do you get traffic if you dont?

KevinG
12-29-2004, 01:02 PM
Nick - I like the results I get better from posting Free Sites on Link Lists rather than galleries on TGPs. The traffic lasts much longer too. Here's my top secret list of Link List sites. Please keep it to yourself:

http://www.richards-realm.com/
http://www.premium-sex-links.com/
http://www.link-o-rama.com/
http://www.thehornyguy.com/
http://www.link-fabulous.com/
http://www.penisbot.com/
http://www.100-free-porn-movies-sex-videos-and-pics.com/
http://www.4linx.com/
http://www.a2zporn.com/a2z/main.php
http://adultlinkpost.com/
http://www.adult-bookmarks.com/
http://www.adultlinksxxx.com/
http://www.adult-list.com/
http://www.aaasexpictures.com/links/index.shtml
http://www.adultpornguide.com/
http://www.adult-sex-sites.net/
http://www.adult-xxx.org/
http://www.amylinks.com/
http://all-porn.net/
http://www.sex-seek.com/
http://www.ahookers-pornlist.com/
http://www.analbitch-pornlist.com/
http://www.mommaspussy.com/
http://www.barefantasy.com/
http://www.jk-porn.com/
http://www.bigtimebookmarks.com/
http://www.linkforsex.com/
http://www.canadiansexlinks.com/
http://www.sinsensual.com/
http://www.adults4.com

Nickatilynx
12-29-2004, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by KevinG@Dec 29 2004, 10:03 AM
Nick - I like the results I get better from posting Free Sites on Link Lists rather than galleries on TGPs. The traffic lasts much longer too. Here's my top secret list of Link List sites. Please keep it to yourself:

http://www.richards-realm.com/
http://www.premium-sex-links.com/
http://www.link-o-rama.com/
http://www.thehornyguy.com/
http://www.link-fabulous.com/
http://www.penisbot.com/
http://www.100-free-porn-movies-sex-videos-and-pics.com/
http://www.4linx.com/
http://www.a2zporn.com/a2z/main.php
http://adultlinkpost.com/
http://www.adult-bookmarks.com/
http://www.adultlinksxxx.com/
http://www.adult-list.com/
http://www.aaasexpictures.com/links/index.shtml
http://www.adultpornguide.com/
http://www.adult-sex-sites.net/
http://www.adult-xxx.org/
http://www.amylinks.com/
http://all-porn.net/
http://www.sex-seek.com/
http://www.ahookers-pornlist.com/
http://www.analbitch-pornlist.com/
http://www.mommaspussy.com/
http://www.barefantasy.com/
http://www.jk-porn.com/
http://www.bigtimebookmarks.com/
http://www.linkforsex.com/
http://www.canadiansexlinks.com/
http://www.sinsensual.com/
http://www.adults4.com
fuck it!!!

You are now too good a contributor.

You are entitled to one " Look at my pics" thread.


;-))

KevinG
12-29-2004, 01:10 PM
LOL Nick! Get ready. I'm going to post a real sexy pic, and you're guaranteed to know at least one of the people in it.

Biggy
12-29-2004, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Dec 29 2004, 10:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Dec 29 2004, 10:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-KevinG@Dec 29 2004, 10:03 AM
Nick - I like the results I get better from posting Free Sites on Link Lists rather than galleries on TGPs. The traffic lasts much longer too. Here's my top secret list of Link List sites. Please keep it to yourself:

http://www.richards-realm.com/
http://www.premium-sex-links.com/
http://www.link-o-rama.com/
http://www.thehornyguy.com/
http://www.link-fabulous.com/
http://www.penisbot.com/
http://www.100-free-porn-movies-sex-videos-and-pics.com/
http://www.4linx.com/
http://www.a2zporn.com/a2z/main.php
http://adultlinkpost.com/
http://www.adult-bookmarks.com/
http://www.adultlinksxxx.com/
http://www.adult-list.com/
http://www.aaasexpictures.com/links/index.shtml
http://www.adultpornguide.com/
http://www.adult-sex-sites.net/
http://www.adult-xxx.org/
http://www.amylinks.com/
http://all-porn.net/
http://www.sex-seek.com/
http://www.ahookers-pornlist.com/
http://www.analbitch-pornlist.com/
http://www.mommaspussy.com/
http://www.barefantasy.com/
http://www.jk-porn.com/
http://www.bigtimebookmarks.com/
http://www.linkforsex.com/
http://www.canadiansexlinks.com/
http://www.sinsensual.com/
http://www.adults4.com
fuck it!!!

You are now too good a contributor.

You are entitled to one " Look at my pics" thread.


;-)) [/b][/quote]
TGP sucks - no money in it. Take my word for it.

Biggy
12-29-2004, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by KevinG@Dec 29 2004, 10:03 AM
Nick - I like the results I get better from posting Free Sites on Link Lists rather than galleries on TGPs. The traffic lasts much longer too. Here's my top secret list of Link List sites. Please keep it to yourself:

http://www.richards-realm.com/
http://www.premium-sex-links.com/
http://www.link-o-rama.com/
http://www.thehornyguy.com/
http://www.link-fabulous.com/
http://www.penisbot.com/
http://www.100-free-porn-movies-sex-videos-and-pics.com/
http://www.4linx.com/
http://www.a2zporn.com/a2z/main.php
http://adultlinkpost.com/
http://www.adult-bookmarks.com/
http://www.adultlinksxxx.com/
http://www.adult-list.com/
http://www.aaasexpictures.com/links/index.shtml
http://www.adultpornguide.com/
http://www.adult-sex-sites.net/
http://www.adult-xxx.org/
http://www.amylinks.com/
http://all-porn.net/
http://www.sex-seek.com/
http://www.ahookers-pornlist.com/
http://www.analbitch-pornlist.com/
http://www.mommaspussy.com/
http://www.barefantasy.com/
http://www.jk-porn.com/
http://www.bigtimebookmarks.com/
http://www.linkforsex.com/
http://www.canadiansexlinks.com/
http://www.sinsensual.com/
http://www.adults4.com
1997 all over again.

The internet is regressing. :rolleyes:

KevinG
12-29-2004, 01:20 PM
Yeah, but my hair is 1970's.

TheEnforcer
12-29-2004, 01:20 PM
Plenty of money to be made in the TGP game. It's been a while since I've done it but am gonna hop back on that bus soon.

Nickatilynx
12-29-2004, 01:22 PM
Biggy,

LOL


OK , explain your TGPsubmitters thing..

Is it a consultancy or whjat?

Biggy
12-29-2004, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 29 2004, 10:23 AM
Biggy,

LOL


OK , explain your TGPsubmitters thing..

Is it a consultancy or whjat?
<spam>

its meant for program owners who are looking to establish themselves on the tgps.

Want to see my past work?

go to alexa, check out melissamidwest.com - then compare some of your favorite sites, i've been pushing it for about 2 months :)

if you're a program owner, without a tgp presence, hit me up.

I do filter who I work with, some sites I just cannot help. Exclusive content is a must.

</spam>

Nickatilynx
12-29-2004, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by TheEnforcer@Dec 29 2004, 10:21 AM
Plenty of money to be made in the TGP game. It's been a while since I've done it but am gonna hop back on that bus soon.
I agree!!

I just want to know who is good and who is crap , and no one says publicly.

Nickatilynx
12-29-2004, 01:27 PM
biggy,

Exclusive content is a must.

so thats the key is it?

Biggy
12-29-2004, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 29 2004, 10:28 AM
biggy,

Exclusive content is a must.

so thats the key is it?
part of it :)

KevinG
12-29-2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 29 2004, 10:28 AM
biggy,

Exclusive content is a must.

so thats the key is it?
Yep. I should have mentioned that 90% of my sites / projects have 100% exclusive content.

Weg Cory
12-29-2004, 01:41 PM
Nick,

play with the tgp's yourself. If they have no trade turned on, the traffic is viable. Jay has no trade. Click the thumbs several times and you can roughly asses the trade settings. The higher the setting, the worse the traffic IMO.

Buckethead made a reasonable post.

Biggy, god I love Mellisa's site. :)

aeon
12-29-2004, 04:24 PM
There eventually comes a time when you "have" to deal with TGP traffic I think - the margins will obviously be lower than other purchased traffic but hopefully the volume will make up for the difference.

I've been cautiously looking at gallery spots for awhile...just hesitant to take the jump cause I know shit about that traffic. If the traffic is there (non hitbot/chinese, etc.,) it'll convert with something...finding what it converts with/how to market the product to that audience is the tricky and potentially expensive part.

Now, I'll just wait and watch to see where you lose your ass with gallery spots and make my job easier.

Biggy
12-29-2004, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by aeon@Dec 29 2004, 01:25 PM
There eventually comes a time when you "have" to deal with TGP traffic I think - the margins will obviously be lower than other purchased traffic but hopefully the volume will make up for the difference.

I've been cautiously looking at gallery spots for awhile...just hesitant to take the jump cause I know shit about that traffic. If the traffic is there (non hitbot/chinese, etc.,) it'll convert with something...finding what it converts with/how to market the product to that audience is the tricky and potentially expensive part.

Now, I'll just wait and watch to see where you lose your ass with gallery spots and make my job easier.
Except smart people will never divulge information.

And the idiots who do, I can already tell you what they will say.... "I lost money."

gonzo
12-29-2004, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Biggy+Dec 29 2004, 05:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Biggy @ Dec 29 2004, 05:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-aeon@Dec 29 2004, 01:25 PM
There eventually comes a time when you "have" to deal with TGP traffic I think - the margins will obviously be lower than other purchased traffic but hopefully the volume will make up for the difference.

I've been cautiously looking at gallery spots for awhile...just hesitant to take the jump cause I know shit about that traffic. If the traffic is there (non hitbot/chinese, etc.,) it'll convert with something...finding what it converts with/how to market the product to that audience is the tricky and potentially expensive part.

Now, I'll just wait and watch to see where you lose your ass with gallery spots and make my job easier.
Except smart people will never divulge information.

And the idiots who do, I can already tell you what they will say.... "I lost money." [/b][/quote]
Biggy --

I hope I am able to meet you next week. You are soing some new cool stuff and Id like to at least shake your hand and buy you a drink.

Biggy
12-29-2004, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by gonzo+Dec 29 2004, 05:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Dec 29 2004, 05:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Biggy@Dec 29 2004, 05:17 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-aeon@Dec 29 2004, 01:25 PM
There eventually comes a time when you "have" to deal with TGP traffic I think - the margins will obviously be lower than other purchased traffic but hopefully the volume will make up for the difference.

I've been cautiously looking at gallery spots for awhile...just hesitant to take the jump cause I know shit about that traffic. If the traffic is there (non hitbot/chinese, etc.,) it'll convert with something...finding what it converts with/how to market the product to that audience is the tricky and potentially expensive part.

Now, I'll just wait and watch to see where you lose your ass with gallery spots and make my job easier.
Except smart people will never divulge information.

And the idiots who do, I can already tell you what they will say.... "I lost money."
Biggy --

I hope I am able to meet you next week. You are soing some new cool stuff and Id like to at least shake your hand and buy you a drink. [/b][/quote]
How far away is the Excalibur from the Luxor/Mandalay?

I'll hit up the FFN, my type of people :matey:

Nickatilynx
12-29-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by Biggy+Dec 29 2004, 05:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Biggy @ Dec 29 2004, 05:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by gonzo@Dec 29 2004, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Biggy@Dec 29 2004, 05:17 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-aeon@Dec 29 2004, 01:25 PM
There eventually comes a time when you "have" to deal with TGP traffic I think - the margins will obviously be lower than other purchased traffic but hopefully the volume will make up for the difference.

I've been cautiously looking at gallery spots for awhile...just hesitant to take the jump cause I know shit about that traffic. If the traffic is there (non hitbot/chinese, etc.,) it'll convert with something...finding what it converts with/how to market the product to that audience is the tricky and potentially expensive part.

Now, I'll just wait and watch to see where you lose your ass with gallery spots and make my job easier.
Except smart people will never divulge information.

And the idiots who do, I can already tell you what they will say.... "I lost money."
Biggy --

I hope I am able to meet you next week. You are soing some new cool stuff and Id like to at least shake your hand and buy you a drink.
How far away is the Excalibur from the Luxor/Mandalay?

I'll hit up the FFN, my type of people :matey: [/b][/quote]
Gonzo,

He's that rare combo..

a smart , nice guy :)

buckethead
12-29-2004, 09:22 PM
Biggy you are definatly one of the new lions that are referred to here so often. :okthumb:

gonzo
12-29-2004, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Biggy+Dec 29 2004, 08:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Biggy @ Dec 29 2004, 08:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by gonzo@Dec 29 2004, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Biggy@Dec 29 2004, 05:17 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-aeon@Dec 29 2004, 01:25 PM
There eventually comes a time when you "have" to deal with TGP traffic I think - the margins will obviously be lower than other purchased traffic but hopefully the volume will make up for the difference.

I've been cautiously looking at gallery spots for awhile...just hesitant to take the jump cause I know shit about that traffic. If the traffic is there (non hitbot/chinese, etc.,) it'll convert with something...finding what it converts with/how to market the product to that audience is the tricky and potentially expensive part.

Now, I'll just wait and watch to see where you lose your ass with gallery spots and make my job easier.
Except smart people will never divulge information.

And the idiots who do, I can already tell you what they will say.... "I lost money."
Biggy --

I hope I am able to meet you next week. You are soing some new cool stuff and Id like to at least shake your hand and buy you a drink.
How far away is the Excalibur from the Luxor/Mandalay?

I'll hit up the FFN, my type of people :matey: [/b][/quote]
Its only a tram ride away!

See you there!!

Vick
12-30-2004, 01:38 AM
I had the pleasure to met and have a few drinks and lunch with Biggy in Miami
Definitely a good guy with a good head on his shoulders
Also Melissamidwest.com is doing well for a few people and companies

aeon
12-30-2004, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by Vick@Dec 29 2004, 10:39 PM
I had the pleasure to met and have a few drinks and lunch with Biggy in Miami
Definitely a good guy with a good head on his shoulders
Also Melissamidwest.com is doing well for a few people and companies
I'm too busy lately to spend a lot of time on boards but I'm still holding you to drinking together...

We just have to find a place and time - and get the bail money set aside :hic:

Vick
12-30-2004, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by aeon+Dec 30 2004, 02:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (aeon @ Dec 30 2004, 02:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Vick@Dec 29 2004, 10:39 PM
I had the pleasure to met and have a few drinks and lunch with Biggy in Miami
Definitely a good guy with a good head on his shoulders
Also Melissamidwest.com is doing well for a few people and companies
I'm too busy lately to spend a lot of time on boards but I'm still holding you to drinking together...

We just have to find a place and time - and get the bail money set aside :hic: [/b][/quote]
I'm up for it

Not sure what part of the world you're in. I'm between Baltimore and DC. Will be in Orlando in 2 weeks and New Orleans in 3

Yeah, always like to set the bail money up ahead of time

aeon
12-30-2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Vick+Dec 30 2004, 06:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vick @ Dec 30 2004, 06:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by aeon@Dec 30 2004, 02:28 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Vick@Dec 29 2004, 10:39 PM
I had the pleasure to met and have a few drinks and lunch with Biggy in Miami
Definitely a good guy with a good head on his shoulders
Also Melissamidwest.com is doing well for a few people and companies
I'm too busy lately to spend a lot of time on boards but I'm still holding you to drinking together...

We just have to find a place and time - and get the bail money set aside :hic:
I'm up for it

Not sure what part of the world you're in. I'm between Baltimore and DC. Will be in Orlando in 2 weeks and New Orleans in 3

Yeah, always like to set the bail money up ahead of time[/b][/quote]

I'm in the midwest Vick - but travel here and there for family things. I mentioned before I go to Orlando a couple times a year for family. Mebbe we could set up a shindig in Tampa with MikeAI if we can work out the schedules.

Drinking doesn't mean have a few drinks btw - I'll have you fuckers stoned drunk before the evening ends :salute: