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Mike AI
12-10-2004, 12:19 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=...itics&printer=1 (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=548&u=/ap/20041209/ap_on_el_ge/democrats_critics&printer=1)

WASHINGTON - Liberal powerhouse MoveOn has a message for the "professional election losers" who run the Democratic Party: "We bought it, we own it, we're going to take it back."



A scathing e-mail from the head of MoveOn's political action committee to the group's supporters on Thursday targets outgoing Democratic National Committee (news - web sites) chairman Terry McAuliffe as a tool of corporate donors who alienated both traditional and progressive Democrats.


"For years, the party has been led by elite Washington insiders who are closer to corporate lobbyists than they are to the Democratic base," said the e-mail from MoveOn PAC's Eli Pariser. "But we can't afford four more years of leadership by a consulting class of professional election losers."


Under McAuliffe's leadership, the message said, the party coddled the same corporate donors that fund Republicans to bring in money at the expense of vision and integrity.


"In the last year, grass-roots contributors like us gave more than $300 million to the Kerry campaign and the DNC, and proved that the party doesn't need corporate cash to be competitive," the message continued. "Now it's our party: we bought it, we own it, and we're going to take it back."


Pariser urged MoveOn supporters to help support a DNC chair with a bold vision to represent Democrats outside Washington. Democrats will vote at their February meeting in Washington on a successor to McAuliffe.


DNC spokesman Jano Cabrera declined to engage in a tit-for-tat with MoveOn, but praised McAuliffe's efforts.


"Call me crazy, but I think the fact that for the first time in party history we outraised the Republicans, and did so primarily through grass-roots fund raising is something to be proud of," Cabrera said.


Among those vying for the party chairmanship is former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean (news - web sites), an early darling of MoveOn's cybernetwork of activists when he ran for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Mike AI
12-10-2004, 12:20 AM
Democratic party better wise up, and seperate themselves from moveon.org people.... the leftists are trying to seize the party. While I am enjoying it, the fact is I would prefer a strong Democratic party - anytime one size has to much power/control it gets perverted and collapses.

PornoDoggy
12-10-2004, 12:38 AM
Well, they just don't make demo crates like they used to.

PornoDoggy
12-10-2004, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Dec 10 2004, 12:21 AM
Democratic party better wise up, and seperate themselves from moveon.org people.... the leftists are trying to seize the party. While I am enjoying it, the fact is I would prefer a strong Democratic party - anytime one size has to much power/control it gets perverted and collapses.
The democrats are likely to have some struggles the far lefties and the rest of the party.

The republicans are likely to have some struggles between the evangelicals and the rest of the party.

Should get interesting. I have seen the Democrats pronounced dead twice in my lifetime (after Nixon and Reagan), and the Republicans pronounced dead twice in my lifetime (after Goldwater and Nixon [popular sumbitch, Dickie was]).

Reports of the demise of either party is greatly exaggerated. I still think that 10-15% of the electorate can swing to either party under the right circumstances. If Congress, particularly the House, pushes Bush too far to the right - it could bite them in the ass.

JoesHO
12-10-2004, 09:17 AM
we prefer to look at it as a time of rebuilding LOL :salute:

Vick
12-10-2004, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Dec 10 2004, 12:46 AM
popular sumbitch, Dickie was


Damn right


Hmmm it's too challenging for a new "party" but ......

... who knows and opportunity grows